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All this talk about female nature, but you don't see any high-IQ scientific blackpill threads about male nature. We cope and cope about other people's behavior yet don't spend much time looking at our own.

It's time to start analyzing male behavior through a blackpilled lens. How hypergamous are men? Are guys attracted to looks, money, and status? How does male attraction compare to female attraction? Are males capable of truly being attracted to females' personalities, or is a good personality just good looks like it is for females' attraction to males? Do guys have unreasonable expectations of girls? Do guys shit-test girls? Do we virtue signal? There're lots of questions that need answers.

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Im not gay
 
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All this talk about female nature, but you don't see any high-IQ scientific blackpill threads about male nature. We cope and cope about other people's behavior yet don't spend much time looking at our own.

It's time to start analyzing male behavior through a blackpilled lens. How hypergamous are men? Are guys attracted to looks, money, and status? How does male attraction compare to female attraction? Are males capable of truly being attracted to females' personalities, or is a good personality just good looks like it is for females' attraction to males? Do guys have unreasonable expectations of girls? Do guys shit-test girls? Do we virtue signal? There're lots of questions that need answers.

Post scientific blackpills about male nature.
are you a foid? we complain about female nature because they lack the qualities we possess. Male nature is pretty much inherent and is ruined by female influence
 
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Its obvious what male nature is

We love boobs butts and hot girls
 
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We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. These results indicate that higher economic status can offset lower physical attractiveness in men much more easily than in women. Neither raters' BMI nor age influenced this effect for females rating male attractiveness. This difference explains many features of human mating behavior and may pose a barrier for male engagement in low-consumption lifestyles.
 
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We also get horny with a dingalings
 
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also, why would you question male nature when you are a male yourself?
 
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Im not gay

Thanks for bringing up this important subject.

You see, according to the 2021 Looksmax.me Survey results, 8% of this forum is homosexuals and bisexuals. With a userbase of 8540 members, an estimated 683 forum users are sexually attracted to males. Almost 700 users attracted to males and pretty much zero prominent threads about male psychology, male sexual nature, and the like. It's a massive content gap.
 
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Thanks for bringing up this important subject.

You see, according to the 2021 Looksmax.me Survey results, 8% of this forum is homosexuals and bisexuals. With a userbase of 8540 members, an estimated 683 forum users are sexually attracted to males. Almost 700 users attracted to males and pretty much zero prominent threads about male psychology, male sexual nature, and the like. It's a massive content gap.
asian humor be like
 
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male nature is simple

impregnate as many females as possible, polygany (one good looking, dominant man, many women) was the natural form of relationship for thousands of years.

Why?

Batemans Principle
 
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Thanks for bringing up this important subject.

You see, according to the 2021 Looksmax.me Survey results, 8% of this forum is homosexuals and bisexuals. With a userbase of 8540 members, an estimated 683 forum users are sexually attracted to males. Almost 700 users attracted to males and pretty much zero prominent threads about male psychology, male sexual nature, and the like. It's a massive content gap.
fucking high iq analyzing things like that
 
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also, why would you question male nature when you are a male yourself?

Looking at your own behavior and psychology scientifically is always a good idea.

Do you think females fully understand themselves? Do you think women know why they are the way they are? Most women aren't even self-aware of their lookism, heightism, hypergamy, etc.

Similarly, there's a lot about us men that we're wrong about and/or don't understand as well as we could.
 
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Male nature is as "bad" as women's nature. Most horrible deeds are done by men.
 
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Its obvious what male nature is

We love boobs butts and hot girls

We can say,

It's obvious what female nature is
They love forward-grown maxillas, strong jawlines, hunter eyes, tall height, muscles, money, status, etc.

Or, we can harness the power of science and dive deeper into the subject. With science we'll find many nuances about female nature, facts that aren't so obvious, contradicting data, how stuff changes over time, the variability of female nature, etc. It's so much more insight into female nature.
 
also, why would you question male nature when you are a male yourself?
because the Chinese don't know what it's like to have feelings. All they do is produce in a factory like the NPCs they are
 
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because the Chinese don't know what it's like to have feelings. All they do is produce in a factory like the NPCs they are
whats your ethnicity?
 

You dead serious bro? You think most women accurately understand their lookist, heightist, hypergamous, etc. nature?

It's clear that most women are not aware of how their own attraction works. A woman may believe they like short men, yet their dating history likely consists of all guys 6 feet or taller. They think they don't discriminate against height, but in reality they do.
 
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LEGIT NOTHING I WOULDN'T DO TO FUCK A HOT GIRL TBH
 
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All this talk about female nature, but you don't see any high-IQ scientific blackpill threads about male nature. We cope and cope about other people's behavior yet don't spend much time looking at our own.

It's time to start analyzing male behavior through a blackpilled lens. How hypergamous are men? Are guys attracted to looks, money, and status? How does male attraction compare to female attraction? Are males capable of truly being attracted to females' personalities, or is a good personality just good looks like it is for females' attraction to males? Do guys have unreasonable expectations of girls? Do guys shit-test girls? Do we virtue signal? There're lots of questions that need answers.

Post scientific blackpills about male nature.
Men are very simple, attraction is two things, 1. Physical attractiveness, 2. How much of a bitch are they. Thats literally it
 
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2. How much of a bitch are they.

^ It's worthwhile to inspect this scientifically.

Additionally, I find bitchiness hot. Does that indicate that male nature has more variation than female nature? Different men have different ideal female body types, but it seems like all women like pretty much the exact same 6-pack-abs ripped physique.
 
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I'm attracted to bitchiness
Maybe as like a sexual turn on, but outside of sex in a LTR I don't think anyone wants to be with someone who is bitchy, or "confident" as its called nowadays.

There is an infinite degree of variability in attraction since its essentially genetics and social upbringing, but I'd say they overlap overwhelmingly consistently at the 2 traits I mentioned.
 
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Does that indicate that male nature has more variation than female nature? Different men have different ideal female body types, but it seems like all women like pretty much the exact same 6-pack-abs ripped physique.
I think so. In general, men tend to be more diverse than women.

Why men might have more varied tastes than women? Maybe the reason is that pregnancy is (was) a huge risk, so women go after the "objectively" best man, while men can afford to have varied taste because if they make "non-optimal" woman pregnant, it's not a risk for them because the woman carries the risk of pregnancy. But this doesn't explain why some men would prefer "non-optimal" women; this just explains why it's not a catastrophe for them.
 
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I think so. In general, men tend to be more diverse than women.

Why men might have more varied tastes than women? Maybe the reason is that pregnancy is (was) a huge risk, so women go after the "objectively" best man, while men can afford to have varied taste because if they make "non-optimal" woman pregnant, it's not a risk for them because the woman carries the risk of pregnancy. But this doesn't explain why some men would prefer "non-optimal" women; this just explains why it's not a catastrophe for them.
If we think about caveman society:

Chad gets the best women. Good for chad and good for the best women.

Subchads don't get the best women. They might try to get less attractive women hoping that chad doesn't care about those women. They might continue their genetic lineage, and if things don't go as planned, women carry the risk of pregnancy. However, these less attractive women still prefer chad, because they carry the burden of pregnancy.

What do you think @thecel
 
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Remember that no man on Earth is as high SMV as Stacy.
 
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female nature is by far complex and in depth.

Which is why female nature is more common.
 
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I think so. In general, men tend to be more diverse than women.

Why men might have more varied tastes than women? Maybe the reason is that pregnancy is (was) a huge risk, so women go after the "objectively" best man, while men can afford to have varied taste because if they make "non-optimal" woman pregnant, it's not a risk for them because the woman carries the risk of pregnancy. But this doesn't explain why some men would prefer "non-optimal" women; this just explains why it's not a catastrophe for them.
If we think about caveman society:

Chad gets the best women. Good for chad and good for the best women.

Subchads don't get the best women. They might try to get less attractive women hoping that chad doesn't care about those women. They might continue their genetic lineage, and if things don't go as planned, women carry the risk of pregnancy. However, these less attractive women still prefer chad, because they carry the burden of pregnancy.

What do you think @thecel

Legit
 
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Its obvious female nature has more depth discussion than male nature.

Males want one thing and simplified.

Im a male because i know how things are we are simple.

Females on the other hand have many things and are easily predictable.

I can easily read a women by instincts female nature exist because women are exposed by modern day technology
 
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If female nature was equivalent to male nature.

Then women would not be doing things that are common with pattern behavior such as having red flags
 
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Makes sense because of the reason I mentioned before.
I actually have almost 20 years of experience in dating.

Instincts come into play.

I have literally read females by actions.
 
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Thanks for bringing up this important subject.

You see, according to the 2021 Looksmax.me Survey results, 8% of this forum is homosexuals and bisexuals. With a userbase of 8540 members, an estimated 683 forum users are sexually attracted to males. Almost 700 users attracted to males and pretty much zero prominent threads about male psychology, male sexual nature, and the like. It's a massive content gap.
Heavily overestimating how many people responded to the survey and that question specifically. How many answered the survey and what was the userbase then? Obviously some people might be trolling too, happens to government population papers all the time when they were self filled out. For that reason people go door to door for them now.
 
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Men are very simple, attraction is two things, 1. Physical attractiveness, 2. How much of a bitch are they. Thats literally it
Literally all I care about in women
 
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Conduct some research on it and share bro. Become a pioneer and others will follow in your steps
 
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How hypergamous are men?
Very. There are men in this forum who say sex with ugly women doesn't even count as sex and you're still Incel if you only had sex with ugly women:
Imagine women saying sex with ugly men doesn't count as sex.

Men want the Stacys and often pass on possibilities to get less attractive women. They overestimate their attractiveness and therefore shoot way above their range, so many rejections are only logically. A low-tier Normie approaching a Stacy doesn't end well normally. Many men are indeed too ugly to get non-ugly or non-fat women, but most Normies can attract a Becky irl.

There is an evolutionary reason for high standards in men, because women with a slim waist, big boobs and who are around the age of 18-30 are ideal for breeding. So "plain" women and older women are less desired. Most men who get divorced and marry a second time do it with a younger woman, many even import a mail-order bride. The age gap in second marriages is much higher than in first marriages:
This is one reason why older women (45+) are statistically more likely to be single than older men.

One thing though is that while both sexes are hypergamous, women on average have an advantage in their hypergamy when they are young (18-30) and men on average have an advantage in their hypergamy when they get older (30+).
Are guys attracted to looks, money, and status?
Looks: Obviously, no further explanation needed.

Money and status: I would say that men are attracted to women with less money and status than them, but who are still in their social class.

Most men don't like a woman that earns more.
Men cheat more when their wife earns more:
Men are more stressed when their wife earns more:
Men are more likely to have ED when their wife earns more:
If a wife earns more than her husband, the marriage is more likely to end in divorce:

On the other hand, men want to marry women who are still in their social class. This means that a millionare won't marry a poor woman, he marries another rich woman (famous model, journalist, etc.). A poor woman could have an ONS or an affair with a rich guy, but the rich guy won't marry her.

So, it's a lie when people say that "Men don't care about money and status in women, they only care about looks and her not being a bitch." Men care about money and status in women, but in a different way. Women want men with MORE money and status than them, men want women with LESS money and status than them, but who are still in their social class.
How does male attraction compare to female attraction?
Male and female attraction are the same. People lie when they say "Women are aroused differently." Both genders are aroused the same way: They see an attractive body (or body part) and get a sexual response in their body. That's it.

Female brain respons to porn the same as male brain:

Women just lie when they say "I need to get emotionally stimulated to feel sexual attraction." No, it's all about seeing a body (or body part). The reason why dick pics still don't work is because dicks, like vaginas, are not attractive. But other body parts like face, shoulders and chest, abs, arms and glutes are, and seeing them can arouse women. (It's true that women read a lot of romance novels. But that doesn't disprove the theory, it just shows that women like also the emotional aspect of relationships a lot.)
Are males capable of truly being attracted to females' personalities, or is a good personality just good looks like it is for females' attraction to males?
The same as with women. Men can feel extreme lust for a woman and like them emotionally at the same time, but they can also feel extreme lust for a woman that they can't stand emotionally. It is possible to fall for a woman because of her personality though, however in that case her personality didn't "create" the sexual attraction, but made it stronger.

Sexual attraction + Emotional attraction = Girlfriend/wife material
Only sexual attraction = ONS, FWB, side-chick, prostitutes

This means that men have a double-mating strategy, just like women. And it means that both men and women are capable of loving a partner and still cheating on them.

Proof: Ask men lol.
Do guys have unreasonable expectations of girls?
Both men and women are frustrated because the opposite gender is not perfect. So, in that case, both have too high expectations. The old women with cats and the MGTOW are two sides of the same coin. I do not think any gender is "worse" than the other.
Do guys shit-test girls?
I don't even think that women do this. It's just harmless banter when they do such "tests" and Chad would never have to pass them anyway.

However, men do play games, just like women. This is because all human relationships have to deal with the existence of power, meaning the question "Who gets what he wants?" when there are different interests. When woman feel like they don't get what they want, they often refuse to have sex with their partners. Men on the other hand often refuse to show romantic gestures. This is why men ask "What did I wrong?" in the case of a dead bedroom and women ask "What did I wrong?" when there are no kisses, hugs and good-byes anymore.
Do we virtue signal?
Yes, we do.

A lot of men downplay the importance of looks and say they don't like "fake breasts" (they don't even notice them most of the time) and like the "natural look" more than make-up (>99% of all women look better with make-up). Many conservative men call sexually liberated women "degenerate", while at the same time secretly visiting brothels. Promiscuous men won't tell in public that they're promiscuous, only to their close guy friends (this is very different from women though, as most women won't tell their friends either, because women slut-shame themselves). Nearly all men watch porn and say they don't. Many men go to the gym to have a better body and attract women (or better-looking women), but then deny it and say it's just to "feel better".

The reason for this is that men know that it is generally seen as shallow in the society to only like someone because of her looks and not because of her personality. Especially today, with all the "body-positivity" movement for women. Also, most women don't like promiscuous men for LTR, so promiscuous men won't tell this in public to not hurt their RMV (if they want a LTR at some point).

TL;DR: Please don't trannymax.
 
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Very. There are men in this forum who say sex with ugly women doesn't even count as sex and you're still Incel if you only had sex with ugly women:
Imagine women saying sex with ugly men doesn't count as sex.

Men want the Stacys and often pass on possibilities to get less attractive women. They overestimate their attractiveness and therefore shoot way above their range, so many rejections are only logically. A low-tier Normie approaching a Stacy doesn't end well normally. Many men are indeed too ugly to get non-ugly or non-fat women, but most Normies can attract a Becky irl.

There is an evolutionary reason for high standards in men, because women with a slim waist, big boobs and who are around the age of 18-30 are ideal for breeding. So "plain" women and older women are less desired. Most men who get divorced and marry a second time do it with a younger woman, many even import a mail-order bride. The age gap in second marriages is much higher than in first marriages:
This is one reason why older women (45+) are statistically more likely to be single than older men.

One thing though is that while both sexes are hypergamous, women on average have an advantage in their hypergamy when they are young (18-30) and men on average have an advantage in their hypergamy when they get older (30+).

Looks: Obviously, no further explanation needed.

Money and status: I would say that men are attracted to women with less money and status than them, but who are still in their social class.

Most men don't like a woman that earns more.
Men cheat more when their wife earns more:
Men are more stressed when their wife earns more:
Men are more likely to have ED when their wife earns more:
If a wife earns more than her husband, the marriage is more likely to end in divorce:

On the other hand, men want to marry women who are still in their social class. This means that a millionare won't marry a poor woman, he marries another rich woman (famous model, journalist, etc.). A poor woman could have an ONS or an affair with a rich guy, but the rich guy won't marry her.

So, it's a lie when people say that "Men don't care about money and status in women, they only care about looks and her not being a bitch." Men care about money and status in women, but in a different way. Women want men with MORE money and status than them, men want women with LESS money and status than them, but who are still in their social class.

Male and female attraction are the same. People lie when they say "Women are aroused differently." Both genders are aroused the same way: They see an attractive body (or body part) and get a sexual response in their body. That's it.

Female brain respons to porn the same way as male brain:

Women just lie when they say "I need to get emotionally stimulated to feel sexual attraction." No, it's all about seeing a body (or body part). The reason why dick pics still don't work is because dicks, like vaginas, are not attractive. But other body parts like face, shoulders and chest, abs, arms and glutes are, and seeing them can arouse women. (It's true that women read a lot of romance novels. But that doesn't disprove the theory, it just shows that women like also the emotional aspect of relationships a lot.)

The same as with women. Men can feel extreme lust for a woman and like them emotionally at the same time, but they can also feel extreme lust for a woman that they can't stand emotionally. It is possible to fall for a woman because of her personality though, however in that case her personality didn't "create" the sexual attraction, but made it stronger.

Sexual attraction + Emotional attraction = Girlfriend/wife material
Only sexual attraction = ONS, FWB, side-chick, prostitutes

This means that men have a double-mating strategy, just like women. And it means that both men and women are capable of loving a partner and still cheating on them.

Proof: Ask men lol.

Both men and women are frustrated because the opposite gender is not perfect. So, in that case, both have too high expectations. The old women with cats and the MGTOW are two sides of the same coin. I do not think any gender is "worse" than the other.

I don't even think that women do this. It's just harmless banter when they do such "tests" and Chad would never have to pass them anyway.

However, men do play games, just like women. This is because all human relationships have to deal with the existence of power, meaning the question "Who gets what he wants?" when there are different interests. When woman feel like they don't get what they want, they often refuse to have sex with their partners. Men on the other hand often refuse to show romantic gestures. This is why men ask "What did I wrong?" in the case of a dead bedroom and women ask "What did I wrong?" when there are no kisses, hugs and good-byes anymore.

Yes, we do.

A lot of men downplay the importance of looks and say they don't like "fake breasts" (they don't even notice them most of the time) and like the "natural look" more than make-up (>99% of all women look better with make-up). Many conservative men call sexually liberated women "degenerate", while at the same time secretly visiting brothels. Promiscuous men won't tell in public that they're promiscuous, only to their close guy friends (this is very different from women though, as most women won't tell their friends either, because women slut-shame themselves). Nearly all men watch porn and say they don't. Many men go to the gym to have a better body and attract women (or better-looking women), but then deny it and say it's just to "feel better".

The reason for this is that men know that it is generally seen as shallow in the society to only like someone because of her looks and not because of her personality. Especially today, with all the "body-positivity" movement for women. Also, most women don't like promiscuous men for LTR, so promiscuous men won't tell this in public to not hurt their RMV (if they want a LTR at some point).

TL;DR: Please don't trannymax.

High effort and high IQ
 
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I want to learn what attracts gay and bisexual men.

No homo. It’s for my lesbian cousin.
 
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All this talk about female nature, but you don't see any high-IQ scientific blackpill threads about male nature. We cope and cope about other people's behavior yet don't spend much time looking at our own.

It's time to start analyzing male behavior through a blackpilled lens. How hypergamous are men? Are guys attracted to looks, money, and status? How does male attraction compare to female attraction? Are males capable of truly being attracted to females' personalities, or is a good personality just good looks like it is for females' attraction to males? Do guys have unreasonable expectations of girls? Do guys shit-test girls? Do we virtue signal? There're lots of questions that need answers.

Post scientific blackpills about male nature.
I think it is a very good post btw i think male nature is much complex than female one since we have a clear dominance hierarchy among us when we compare to women. I think homosexuality and many other sexual fetishes can be rooted from the dominance hieararchy thing when you look at incels (bottom of hierarchy) they are generally very romantic, cuckold fetihists (jfl) or femdom fetishits that can tell you something about male nature tbh.
 
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