Male virginity rates are not rising due to hypergamy, hypergamy is only a symptom of a deeper issue

[FailedNormieManlet]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

 

[Gh3lfaceA113]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

im 17 and dont get sexually aroused easily i have almost no sperm i cant get hard im already completely impotent

 

[YoungJohnnyDepp]

im 17 and dont get sexually aroused easily i have almost no sperm i cant get hard im already completely impotent

 

[Deleted member 18159]

The pandemic has also been the biggest cockblock to all men who aren’t good looking enough to abuse online dating

 

[Deleted member 18170]

im 17 and dont get sexually aroused easily i have almost no sperm i cant get hard im already completely impotent

its OVER buddy boyo, get your Test levels checked

 

[Deleted member 18170]

im 17 and dont get sexually aroused easily i have almost no sperm i cant get hard im already completely impotent

inject dht asap

 

[Gh3lfaceA113]

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nigga trying to portray me as the devil

 

[Gh3lfaceA113]

inject dht asap

ima go to the doctor frr today thanks for reminding me

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Not a word

 

[UglyGod360]

It's because u inkwells are not nt enough

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

It's because u inkwells are not nt enough

I can gurantee that most male virgins are NT and normal people, but due to demographics pill they are virgins - do not have enough contact with women

 

[UglyGod360]

Btw I resonate with this post highly, because at my old job, it was nearly everyone millennial or above, meanwhile I'm relatively young teenager, I know work isn't a dating place, but this just goes to show the demographic. Average age in where I like is like 35 which is not good. I'm in a dating crisis right now, since I'm out of school, and I don't have the looks to arrange dates on dating apps, my best bet was social circle maxxing, but I couldn't even do that. The corona virus was a major blow to my already low social life.

 

[Chinacurry]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

But that would imply female virginity rates are also increasing, you're saying access to mating market is the issue, I don't doubt you're right and it plays a part.

However women are not being virgins, so they are selecting within things like tinder, or bars and clubs, to only hookup with gigachads.

You need to look at a metric like marriage rates by age

 

[Deleted member 17201]

I agree

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

But that would imply female virginity rates are also increasing, you're saying access to mating market is the issue, I don't doubt you're right and it plays a part.

However women are not being virgins, so they are selecting within things like tinder, or bars and clubs, to only hookup with gigachads.

You need to look at a metric like marriage rates by age

Female virginity isn't rising due to tinder yes, access to the market is harder for men.

Women before would date men from work and thus the avg man had a chance.

However as our society becomes more shut-in, people are spending more time online, less people go outside, the market then begins to heavily go against men.

Female virginity rates therefore have remained consistent, never did I state there was an issue in access for women, they now have their new avenue - OLD. Men on the other hand, unless gigachad are fucked and therefore their virginity rates are increasing.

Women aren't becoming more hypergamous, our society instead is creating conditions which encourage hypergamy.

 

[UglyGod360]

But that would imply female virginity rates are also increasing,

No, that would imply that women are going on tinder to fuck Chad

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Btw I resonate with this post highly, because at my old job, it was nearly everyone millennial or above, meanwhile I'm relatively young teenager, I know work isn't a dating place, but this just goes to show the demographic. Average age in where I like is like 35 which is not good. I'm in a dating crisis right now, since I'm out of school, and I don't have the looks to arrange dates on dating apps, my best bet was social circle maxxing, but I couldn't even do that. The corona virus was a major blow to my already low social life.

Yes this post was inspired from some issues I realised I will face after univeristy. Atm I'm at uni and thus have a social circle and can readily meet new people and new girls, but once that's over I have to enter the real world.

Most of us guys are decent looking and tbh we are NT/can socialise, in fact most girls would gladly date us. But the issue is, is we aren't meeting these girls nor finding them.

Can you seriously count how many new girls you've met these week or spoken to? I gurantee the number is below 5, unless you are bar hopping and going clubbing there is very little chance to meet girls irl

 

[UglyGod360]

Yes this post was inspired from some issues I realised I will face after univeristy. Atm I'm at uni and thus have a social circle and can readily meet new people and new girls, but once that's over I have to enter the real world.

Most of us guys are decent looking and tbh we are NT/can socialise, in fact most girls would gladly date us. But the issue is, is we aren't meeting these girls nor finding them.

Can you seriously count how many new girls you've met these week or spoken to? I gurantee the number is below 5, unless you are bar hopping and going clubbing there is very little chance to meet girls irl

You made some typos there lol. But good point, this issue has been addressed many times on here. It's a conundrum we face.

 

[randomuser2407]

No, the main problem that the average man has is that his testosterone levels are ridiculously low due to a junk food diet, a lack of sleep (caused by gaming and social media addiction) and a lack of exercise (caused by laziness).

Without high testosterone levels, men lack the sex drive that they need to want to pursue women.

Also, there is a second reason, which is actually the most important reason, many of them are in very bad physical shape, either they are too fat or they are too skinny.
For women, being in shape is easy, they just have to not eat like a pig, and they will look good. But for men, they have to build at least their first 20 lbs of muscle to look good, except for the small minority of guys who have a top 0.001% tier model face, but that is not the vast majority of men.

But if you were to take an average looking guy and make him gain 20 lbs of muscle by making him strength train, sleep 8 hours per night and eat enough, he would eventually become above average after 1 year or 2 and he would become man enough to get laid if he wanted to.

Hypergamy isn't the reason why so many men aren't getting laid, it's that women only want to have sex with sexy men who look like they get laid. Not necessarily the hottest guys, but guys who look like they are cool, and the vast majority of guys are just gamers, nerds or geeks who don't look cool at all. And many guys make the mistake of thinking that the clothes they wear define them when in reality, it is their looks, but specifically, their face AND their physique. Too many guys on here focus on the face while neglecting the physique, even though the physique is the thing that you can change the most, while you are pretty much stuck with the face you have and you can only make small changes to it.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

No, the main problem that the average man has is that his testosterone levels are ridiculously low due to a junk food diet, a lack of sleep (caused by gaming and social media addiction) and a lack of exercise (caused by laziness).

Without high testosterone levels, men lack the sex drive that they need to want to pursue women.

Also, there is a second reason, which is actually the most important reason, many of them are in very bad physical shape, either they are too fat or they are too skinny.
For women, being in shape is easy, they just have to not eat like a pig, and they will look good. But for men, they have to build at least their first 20 lbs of muscle to look good, except for the small minority of guys who have a top 0.001% tier model face, but that is not the vast majority of men.

But if you were to take an average looking guy and make him gain 20 lbs of muscle by making him strength train, sleep 8 hours per night and eat enough, he would eventually become above average after 1 year or 2 and he would become man enough to get laid if he wanted to.

Hypergamy isn't the reason why so many men aren't getting laid, it's that women only want to have sex with sexy men who look like they get laid. Not necessarily the hottest guys, but guys who look like they are cool, and the vast majority of guys are just gamers, nerds or geeks who don't look cool at all. And many guys make the mistake of thinking that the clothes they wear define them when in reality, it is their looks, but specifically, their face AND their physique. Too many guys on here focus on the face while neglecting the physique, even though the physique is the thing that you can change the most, while you are pretty much stuck with the face you have and you can only make small changes to it.

this is true, but back in the 80s, most people weren't ripped. societal inceldom is due to the shut-in culture we are creating.

Also, do u think getting ripped at 5'5 will save me

 

[randomuser2407]

this is true, but back in the 80s, most people weren't ripped. societal inceldom is due to the shut-in culture we are creating.

Also, do u think getting ripped at 5'5 will save me

Notice I said gaining lots of muscle mass, not getting ripped.

Nobody cares if you have six pack abs as this is just the cherry on top, women aren't attracted to Christian Bale in the Machinist, women are attracted to Christian Bale in American Psycho.

Other examples of what women like are:

Chris Hemsworth in Thor
Chris Evans in Captain America
Henry Cavill in Man of Steel
Channing Tatum in Magic Mike
Joe Manganiello in True Blood
Stephen Amell in Arrow
Ryan Reynolds in Blade
Ryan Gosling in Crazy Stupid Love
Christian Bale in American Psycho
Brad Pitt in Troy
Hugh Jackman in The Wolverine
Dolph Lundgren in Rocky IV
Jason Momoa in Aquaman
Alexander Ludwig in Vikings
Manu Benett in Spartacus
Dustin Clare in Spartacus
Daniel Craig in Casino Royale



Many of those guys had a good looking face but they also had a great physique, some of whom can be achieved without drugs.

And yes, even if you are short, it will help you, I mean just look at AlphaDestiny, he looks very average and he is very short at around 5 foot 5, and he has a great physique.

The advantage that you have as a short guy is that your muscles will look big faster than for a tall guy because your limbs are shorter, so 16 inch arms on you is going to look a lot more impressive than 16 inch arms on me. And to have arms that look as big, I would need 18 inch arms, which is extremely difficult to achieve, even for a tall guy.

In 6-12 months, you can get an above average physique, if you do things right.

I recommend you follow this guide:

Social skills are far more important than you think.

Was inspired to make this thread after I spent some time with my dad this weekend. Hes a good looking dude for his age, amazing aging genetics, no hairloss at all, chad eye area, limited wrinkles, hes 6'1 and isn't fat. 6/10 PSL even at 50 years old. When he was younger he wasnt too remarkable...

looksmax.org

 

[TeenAscender]

hypergamy exists but it is exxagerated by copers who believe they deserve pussy when their smv is below average

 

[TwistofFate]

This is very true, in the past the new generation was always larger, numerically then the previous older generation, creating a surplus of young people, now its the opposite, the west is in a death spiral, there arent enough young women for young men. You combined that with online dating and natural female hypergamy and its gg for at least 40% of the male population

 

[Deleted member 17736]

im 17 and dont get sexually aroused easily i have almost no sperm i cant get hard im already completely impotent

inject

 

[banjojones]

I can gurantee that most male virgins are NT and normal people, but due to demographics pill they are virgins - do not have enough contact with women

you bring up a good point. In the u.s.a I noticed blacks/hispanics never have autism but whites do. I wonder if autism is genetic (having kids later like whites) or merely environmental as well. White kids grow up isolated in suburbs surrounded by old people and few kids their age (in my case) basically they can't function in a social situation on a rare occassion they do meet one of their peers their age.

Hispanics on the other hand grow up with tons of cousins/younger siblings/neighbors around their age and have plenty of time to practice their social skills/be NT

 

[Deleted member 18045]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

Legit. Propensity theory is legit . Social activities are very less now . " Nerd culture" or staying at home watching anime/ playing games is considered Nt now. Maybe it's because of heavy workloads and stuff people are lazy to go outside. Also it's not appropriate to talk to women in public places. You'd get arrested

 

[ezio6]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

high iq pattern recognition new perspective cel

 

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yea no girls were in school or uni classes nor social circle. face not enough for dating apps. its over tbh

 

[Biochromos]

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[Biochromos]

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nvm I found it, didn't notice the file name

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

high iq pattern recognition new perspective cel

I am surprised not enough people are talking about this in all honesty. I am just autistic bro and fucking analyse shit on a deeper level

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

high iq take. never thought about the ever increasing power of dating apps over our happiness and life satisfaction

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

over if you're not balls deep in prime virgin jb. didn't read that big fat fucking cope post

 

[Ezekiel]

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni).

Yep, besides hs and college, this is pretty much your only other option of finding an abundance of young girls(16-25). Tbh if you didn't manage to get yourself a decent quality social circle in hs or at the very least in uni, you are beyond fucked and the only way you'll be able to meet girls is either through dating apps(JFL at the results you'll get if you're not some 6'+ heartthrob) or if you manage to luck out and befriend some cool people you vibe with and you manage to get in their social circle(even then, absolutely nothing is guaranteed if the stars don't allign for you).

If you don't have any friends in uni and you're still in your first year, drop out and looksmax HARD- do everything you can to improve yourself so that you can start over with an advantage compared to your former self.

 

[iwillbeflinch]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

I'm going to a concert of a band i like on Friday, i hope there's a cute girl there and I'm mark my words I'm a giga pussy if i dont shoot my shot there.

 

[carnage]

How to approach at the gym? I tried a few times but it feels really weird. I'm trying to lowinhibmaxx but the beginnings are harsh. Also I know girls who dated 25+ yrs old guys while they were underage. They want an older guy because they usually have money instead of young broke dudes.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

The pandemic has also been the biggest cockblock to all men who aren’t good looking enough to abuse online dating

Also approaching girls has become weird because with the mask they don't see half of your face

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Yes this post was inspired from some issues I realised I will face after univeristy. Atm I'm at uni and thus have a social circle and can readily meet new people and new girls, but once that's over I have to enter the real world.

Most of us guys are decent looking and tbh we are NT/can socialise, in fact most girls would gladly date us. But the issue is, is we aren't meeting these girls nor finding them.

Can you seriously count how many new girls you've met these week or spoken to? I gurantee the number is below 5, unless you are bar hopping and going clubbing there is very little chance to meet girls irl

This is so true man. Whenever I leave my basement for MULTIPLE hours i don't see ONE single girl around my age ( 14-18). Keep in mind i live in the town's centre near the shopping mall!

 

[anticel]

Also shrinking demographics with girls usually dating up in age (girls marry aprox. 2 years younger than men). I literally just looked this up and the numbers actually show how bad it is.
% of singles at each age

Men are literally fucked in all dateable ages. Numbers at 65+ are just inflated cuz men die earlier.

Birth rates are still pretty low so it will just get worse. Migration is literally the only solution.

 

[anticel]

note that USAs population is 51.5% females but mostly because of old ppl. if the numbers above arent adjusted to that it would mean that those 32% of single women cant directly be compared to the 51% of men and that in reality it is a bit closer.

also there s more gay men then women. so promoting lgbt etc might actually help u more than looksmaxxing

 

[BetaGayFace2]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

I would also like to add to this another factor, which is the fact that there are literally TOO MANY men compared to women. This excess of men, on top of hypergamy, on top of genetic decay of human genome, on top of death of social circles/communities, on top of lack of birthrates is a ticking time bomb. The future is going to be hell boys. We are witnessing a darwinistic pressure on men right now and it is likely not many will be able to reproduce/secure genetic lineage. The west is already unstable as it is, I expect as this crisis compounds on the Spengerlian collapse of the west (and world for that matter, China has a ratio of 120:100 men I believe so they are even MORE fucked than we are) the world will descend into a barbaric hellscape with rich genetically modified gigachad elites at the top.


The rant begins at 3:29, rest of vid is irrelevant

 

[reputation]

Probably the biggest blackpill for aspiring chads is the demographics pill, it hits you badly when you are young and eases when you're older. Younger looking guys like me are brutally raped by it. The typical normie advice of "meet girls through work/hobbies" can only work in some cases. If you are working in a place full of older people or your hobby has older people then you will know what I'm on about. For example, I train BJJ and Judo. Now while my judo club has girls younger than me, they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old. My BJJ club on the other hand has girls much older than me (27+). Thus I get fucked over by the demographics pill, lets say I end up teaching science in a secondary school after uni too, the demographics pill will hit me again. I'll be the youngest teacher in the room, and thus all co-workers will be too old to date (and I'm not a pedo who is going to date literal children JFL).

The demographics pill is perhaps one of the worst pills there is, I know I'm not autistic and could talk to most people. But if your hobbies and work aren't full of people your age, you are fucked. It's only when you're a bit older does your net widen and thus demographic pill isn't as harsh.

Demographics pill, I'd argue is the #1 cause of inceldom for most folks, say we take the typical boomer advice of "just meet girls at salsa" or "just meet girls at a cooking class"

We need to really ask ourselves, what 18-23 year old girl will be going to these places? Hardly any, if you're lucky you will see women in their 30s or mothers - all of whom will not date you off the bat if you're a young man. So where does one find girls their age?

Lets try the library? Nope, wrong. Most libraries are fuckign empty, barely anyone goes to them and especially not girls in their early 20s.

So where do these girls hang out? They hang out in clubs and bars (both enviros which are highly dependent on looks) or they are in their own social circles (circles which you will have a hard time getting into past uni). Boomers and bluepillers will cope and say there are plenty of young girls at work, but seriously that's only for a select few industries. If you're working in somewhere like finance, construction or engineering there aren't going to be many girls, you will rarely interact with girls.
If we look at the % of people in the UK who are 18-24, we see that it is only a mere 9.4%. Only 9.4% of the population is within your age group to date, now half that (50% men, 50% women), you end up with an awful figure of only 4.7%
4.7% of the population is dateable. 4.7% of the fucking population, which is already a stupidly low figure. Then take into account the sort of people who will be joining salsa, yoga, etc. It paints a bleak picture.

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people, you need to realise that the cause of societal inceldom is not only due to hypergamy and other reductionist responses.

Thus I conclude with this:- Hypergamy has always remained there, it's not that wome have woken up one day and realised they are "getting a better deal" by going on tinder and thus hypergamy happens. It's that women are literally not going outside/having hobbies which put them into proximity with people, women are unironically staying indoors all day and only going out to socialise with friends or go clubs and bars (enviros where looks matters). The avg man before could meet girls at church or through their hobbies, but young women simply are not going joining hobbies and thus most hobbies/meetup groups are filled with old people. So as a result women are using dating apps due to lack of contact they have with men irl outside of shallow enviros such as clubs/bars.

What this means for the future:-

I predict that the west will end up like Japan soon, if we normalise working from home and not going to the office, this is seriously going to cause a crisis amongst men. Dating will be so tightly regulated that companies such as tinder, hinge and bumble will effectively be able to control your life - if they ban you, you become an incel forever.

The solution to meeting women, as corny as it is. It's to legit approach women at places like the gym or places where there are a signifcant amount of women. But as we all know these things are legit difficult. The average male in a few decades will be legit sexless past college.

Technically speaking hypergamy is marrying those of higher status but for some reasons people misuse the term

 

[Deleted member 17430]

they're a bit too young - literally 15-16 years old

Stopped reading here. If you are a faggot just say it

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Stopped reading here. If you are a faggot just say it

fight me in london faggot

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Women's standards aren't going up, it's that women are not literally going outside. Women and men are literally not having hobbies and are instead staying indoors all day - thus will use tinder more.
Unless you are willing to work in retail and some other low end job - where you'll find plenty of young people

I think going to gym classes may be a good way to meet women. Something like Yoga or Zumba is basically all women.

 

[Britmaxxer]

working in fast food or other shit jobs is the only way to meet young women outside of university.

but because you are working that shit job, your status = 0, so they wont fuck you anyway.

high paying and high status jobs have no women, but get you money and status. but because no women do these hard jobs, you dont meet any women. so you go on tinder, where only looks matter.

once again. looks are king.

 

[Deleted member 21620]

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