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[soggra]

you recon if my ortho sees my palate he'll give me one? cuz a normal palate expander wont ascend me but mse will

Yea he’ll def give you one or at least he should. Your palate is very narrow

 

[Deleted member 91663]

And what did those average looking guys do to get that girlfriend? Betabuxx, or they asked out hundreds of girls before finding the one, etc

Chronically online ramblings.

 

[soggra]

No you're a 6ft KHHV because you rot in your room and don't do anything.
My 5ft 8 MTN friend lost his virginity at 16.

I do something bruh I’ve asked out so many girls got rejected by all of them. I get ghosted all the time. Dating apps are shit as a mtn as well

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Yea he’ll def give you one or at least he should. Your palate is very narrow

and does a twin block appliance move the mandible forward like a herbst appliance without the risk of the maxilla going back? because i have a overbite but its nothing crazy so idk if my ortho could give me anything for that

 

[soggra]

and does a twin block appliance move the mandible forward like a herbst appliance without the risk of the maxilla going back? because i have a overbite but its nothing crazy so idk if my ortho could give me anything for that

Yes

 

[Deleted member 91663]

fixing my mandible will do ALOT for me, itll give me equal facial thirds, a wide jaw, a more pronounced jaw, anything to do with jaw and ill ascend

Your mandible isn't clinically recessed. He's fucking with you.
Even if he were corrrect, none of the so called treatments he's mentioned will work.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Yea he’ll def give you one or at least he should. Your palate is very narrow

also is there anything else youd recommend for me to get except the mse and twin block, i can send front profile if u want

 

[Deleted member 91663]

I do something bruh I’ve asked out so many girls got rejected by all of them. I get ghosted all the time. Dating apps are shit as a mtn as well

You're mentally ill, that's why.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Your mandible isn't clinically recessed. He's fucking with you.
Even if he were corrrect, none of the so called treatments he's mentioned will work.

the point of a twin block appliance is to MOVE the mandible forward, its legitimately the whole reason it exists

 

[soggra]

You're mentally ill, that's why.

Looks are everything. Being mentally ill doesn’t matter. Look at Richard Ramirez for example he’s a serial killer and had women all over him

 

[soggra]

the point of a twin block appliance is to MOVE the mandible forward, its legitimately the whole reason it exists

I am not fucking with you bro, I’m being completely honest, idk why this delusional blue piller thinks I am fucking with you probably due to his blue pill delusions

 

[Deleted member 91663]

I am not fucking with you bro, I’m being completely honest, idk why this delusional blue piller thinks I am fucking with you probably due to his blue pill delusions

His mandible is not clinically recessed. You're just too ignorant to know it.

 

[soggra]

His mandible is not clinically recessed. You're just too ignorant to know it.

I never said it was clinically recessed

 

[Deleted member 91663]

the point of a twin block appliance is to MOVE the mandible forward, its legitimately the whole reason it exists

The sutures of the maxilla fuse at ages 15-16.
There is no medical literature that you can achieve major advancements of the maxilla after the ages of 11-12.
Your maxilla isn't recessed anyway.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

I am not fucking with you bro, I’m being completely honest, idk why this delusional blue piller thinks I am fucking with you probably due to his blue pill delusions

do you also by chance have before and afters, for bonesmashing

 

[soggra]

My 5ft 8 MTN friend lost his virginity at 16.

Yea sure I also know a 5’4 subhuman who is also slaying

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Yea sure I also know a 5’4 subhuman who is also slaying

Because 5ft 8 is the same as a 5ft 4 subhuman you rotting shithead.

 

[soggra]

Because 5ft 8 is the same as a 5ft 4 subhuman you rotting shithead.

My point is that there are 5’4 subhumans also slaying right now. So a 5’8 mtn slaying doesn’t necessarily mean that if somebody else is 5’8 and mtn he can also slay

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

My point is that there are 5’4 subhumans also slaying right now. So a 5’8 mtn slaying doesn’t necessarily mean that if somebody else is 5’8 and mtn he can also slay

is there a way to avoid braces after going on mse?

 

[soggra]

do you also by chance have before and afters, for bonesmashing

1 year bonesmash transformatiin

 

[Deleted member 91663]

do you also by chance have before and afters, for bonesmashing

I will make this my very final post.
You're going down a rabbit hole here and almost certainly won't be satisfied with where it takes you.
You do not have clinical recession of the maxilla or the mandible.
The treatments you have heard about do not work and will not effect meaningful change, if any at all.
Do not trust me or @soggra on this. Do your own careful research on this.


A lot of users here, are chronically online, they don't spend time in the real world, they have no friends and regurgitate a lot of things they hear on the internet without proof.

This is the guy, you're getting advice from right now.

Would you buy a used car from someone like this, let alone get medical advice or insights into human psychology?

 

[soggra]

I will make this my very final post.
You're going down a rabbit hole here and almost certainly won't be satisfied with where it takes you.
You do not have clinical recession of the maxilla or the mandible.
The treatments you have heard about do not work and will not effect meaningful change, if any at all.
Do not trust me or @soggra on this. Do your own careful research on this.


A lot of users here, are chronically online, they don't spend time in the real world, they have no friends and regurgitate a lot of things they hear on the internet without proof.

This is the guy, you're getting advice from right now.

Would you buy a used car from someone like this, let alone get medical advice or insights into human psychology?

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The proof is right there bro. You don’t even like my face because I am mtn. Now imagine the response I’d get from women

 

[Deleted member 91663]

The proof is right there bro. You don’t even like my face because I am mtn. Now imagine the response I’d get from women

Your face is fine. It's the fact that you look like a mentally ill guy who doesn't leave his house.

If we did a 3D scan of the skull before and after, we would see no change whatsoever.
The first image is blurred and different lighting can accentuate the bone structure.

 

[stufftodo]

Your mandible isn't clinically recessed. He's fucking with you.
Even if he were corrrect, none of the so called treatments he's mentioned will work.

significant fusion starts in the third decade of life, though it starts at 15-16. pretty sure the study you're refering to about fusion comes from this. and although fusion can completely happen at 15-16 it's less common. the same study also quotes "and before 15 in males, the unfavourable growth could be treated with three main types of early non-surgical orthodontic expansion appliances."

as long as there's sign of non-fusion your maxilla can be corrected with expanders.

 

[soggra]

Your face is fine. It's the fact that you look like a mentally ill guy who doesn't leave his house.

If we did a 3D scan of the skull before and after, we would see no change whatsoever.
The first image is blurred and different lighting can accentuate the bone structure.

Thanks bro. Honestly I got a dopamine spike when you told me my face is fine

 

[stufftodo]

Your mandible isn't clinically recessed. He's fucking with you.
Even if he were corrrect, none of the so called treatments he's mentioned will work.

at his age, aligners with mandibular advancement would still be a very viable treatment.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

significant fusion starts in the third decade of life, though it starts at 15-16. pretty sure the study you're refering to about fusion comes from this. and although fusion can completely happen at 15-16 it's less common. the same study also quotes "and before 15 in males, the unfavourable growth could be treated with three main types of early non-surgical orthodontic expansion appliances."

as long as there's sign of non-fusion your maxilla can be corrected with expanders.

The maxillary sutures start to seal at the age of 11-12.
The maxillary suture completely fuses around 15-16 in males. There is no study. This is a scientific fact.
If I am wrong on this, show me some proof and I will fully own up to it.
I don't mind being proven wrong.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Thanks bro. Honestly I got a dopamine spike when you told me my face is fine

You're a perma-rotter so of course you'd get satisfaction from me saying that.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

at his age, aligners with mandibular advancement would still be a very viable treatment.

He's not clinically recessed.

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

erm guys, is this a flat maxilla or a forwardly grown one. i keep hearing mixed opinions, some say it’s flat, while others say it’s properly grown. (btw im very bloated in these pictures)

it’s looks good you look super young so you’ll grow into a better jaw, leanmax and hop on 10mg super low dose accutane

 

[ju3iorr]

I bought it on the internet because the Jew orthos didn’t want to give it to me because they said my palate was “normal”

Over for u

 

[soggra]

Over for u

Cope

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

it’s looks good you look super young so you’ll grow into a better jaw, leanmax and hop on 10mg super low dose accutane

im on accutane not 10mg. but 40mg daily perscribed by a dermatoligist

 

[ju3iorr]

I’m 6’0 KHHV because I am mtn. I’ve also seen so many MTN incels. Face is the most important for attracting women. I’m trying to help him attract women

You gotta have a major flaw ima ltn getting approached constantly

 

[soggra]

You gotta have a major flaw ima ltn getting approached constantly

Show face. You’re probably not ltn, also how tall? Ur probably like 6’4 like of course your gonna get approached at 6’4

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

at his age, aligners with mandibular advancement would still be a very viable treatment.

my teeth are already straight, i just mse and twin block appliance honestly

 

[ju3iorr]

I will make this my very final post.
You're going down a rabbit hole here and almost certainly won't be satisfied with where it takes you.
You do not have clinical recession of the maxilla or the mandible.
The treatments you have heard about do not work and will not effect meaningful change, if any at all.
Do not trust me or @soggra on this. Do your own careful research on this.


A lot of users here, are chronically online, they don't spend time in the real world, they have no friends and regurgitate a lot of things they hear on the internet without proof.

This is the guy, you're getting advice from right now.

Would you buy a used car from someone like this, let alone get medical advice or insights into human psychology?

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This guy isn’t mtn respectfully

 

[stufftodo]

The maxillary suture completely fuses around 15-16 in males. There is no study. This is a scientific fact.

it isn't a fact if it's been disproved multiple times. in persson and thailander it states "marked degree of closure was rarely found until the third decade of life... palatal suture closure in man from 15 to 35 years of age."

He's not clinically recessed.

he isn't but the treatment would work

 

[ju3iorr]

Show face. You’re probably not ltn, also how tall? Ur probably like 6’4 like of course your gonna get approached at 6’4

Buddy I’m like 5’9-5’10, ltn IM ANTISOCIAL AND have people talk to me. I literally have a narrow jaw, bad maxillaaa, and a few more flaws

 

[soggra]

This guy isn’t mtn respectfully

What am I?

 

[soggra]

Buddy I’m like 5’9-5’10, ltn IM ANTISOCIAL AND have people talk to me. I literally have a narrow jaw, bad maxillaaa, and a few more flaws

Tales from the slums of Mumbai. Or your just getting land whales

 

[ju3iorr]

What am I?

Your eyes are carrying you heavily, you’re like ltn. Your lower just sucks imo

 

[ju3iorr]

Tales from the slums of Mumbai. Or your just getting land whales

ALSO I GOTTA BIG NOSE, and downward growth

 

[soggra]

Your eyes are carrying you heavily, you’re like ltn. Your lower just sucks imo

Dude I am chin tucking that’s why and there’s some lens distortion Anybody’s lower third would look like shit with that. I am Mtn.

 

[ju3iorr]

Tales from the slums of Mumbai. Or your just getting land whales

I’d never talk to a big female LMAO

 

[ju3iorr]

Dude I am chin tucking that’s why and there’s some lens distortion Anybody’s lower third would look like shit with that. I am Mtn.

Mtn is crazy bru, you’re not

 

[soggra]

I’d never talk to a big female LMAO

Nah I’m def higher than ltn. So I’m taller and more attractive than you and I get nothing while you get something? Life is truly not fair. Looks are everything might just be a cope and luck might be a. Important factor

 

[GymcellingForLife]

Tales from the slums of Mumbai. Or your just getting land whales

Dude I am chin tucking that’s why and there’s some lens distortion Anybody’s lower third would look like shit with that. I am Mtn.

bro MTN rated on this site especially 6'0 should get girls

 

[soggra]

Mtn is crazy bru, you’re not

Yea I am dude, why don’t you chin tuck and post a selfie, I bet you’ll go from LTN to subhuman

 

[ju3iorr]

Nah I’m def higher than ltn. So I’m taller and more attractive than you and I get nothing while you get something? Life is truly not fair. Looks are everything might just be a cope and luck might be a. Important factor

Yes maybe you are better than me? I don’t think you are but taller yea