me on cranial base

[Deleted member 3526]

What purpose does it serve ?
@Lorsss @Deliciadecu

 

[Deleted member 2227]

I curious now too, but it's probably change everything in your face

@Deliciadecu

 

[godsmistake]

your cranial base

 

[Deleted member 1100]

What purpose does it serve ?
@Lorsss @Deliciadecu

I curious now too, but it's probably change everything in your face

@Deliciadecu

No purpose besides supporting your brain, but your whole face develops based on it. If you have a long middle cranial fossa there will be no mewing for you, you'll have a shit gonial angle regardless, slightly changes on it can change several parts of your face.

Will you have NCT?

Cranial base

Will you have prognathism?

Cranial base

Will you prominent zygos?

Cranial base

and so on...

For example, I haven't researched much yet but I assume that because Asians usually have bigger brains than whites and blacks is the reason why they don't have deep-set eyes. The bigger brain that developed due to their cold climate probably shortened the anterior cranial fossa, which pushed the sphenoid bone along with it, therefore having less space on the orbital cavity, which pushes the eyes forward. This is just a theory that I have, I've already downloaded some articles and I'll read them after finishing the 1200 page book I'm reading about eye area surgery.

Notice how the S-N distance is shorter on Asians (Class 3):

Apparently, no one managed to archive the lookism thread correctly so there's a bunch of info there that some 10 posts lukers posted that are long gone it is what it is...


In short, when it comes to face development I'd say it goes like this:

Cranial base > Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

* Women naturally are more brachycephaly than men, also has smaller airways...

**Blacks, for example, have wider ramus (from the side) that's why it looks like they have more forward growth on the maxilla, because their wider ramus pushes their maxilla forward.


BTW, if there is any collegecel here who has free access to ElSevier on your college, make me the favor of getting SOM Movie 1, 2, and 3, thanks:

Cranial base topology and basic trends in the facial evolution of Homo

Facial prognathism and projection are important characteristics in human evolution but their three-dimensional (3D) architectonic relationships to bas…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Deleted member 2227]

No purpose besides supporting your brain, but your whole face develops based on it. If you have a long middle cranial fossa there will be no mewing for you, you'll have a shit gonial angle regardless, slightly changes on it can change several parts of your face.

Will you have NCT?

Cranial base

Will you have prognathism?

Cranial base

Will you prominent zygos?

Cranial base

and so on...

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View attachment 140620


For example, I haven't researched much yet but I assume that because Asians usually have bigger brains than whites and blacks is the reason why they don't have deep-set eyes. The bigger brain that developed due to their cold climate probably shortened the anterior cranial fossa, which pushed the sphenoid bone along with it, therefore having less space on the orbital cavity, which pushes the eyes forward. This is just a theory that I have, I've already downloaded some articles and I'll read them after finishing the 1200 page book I'm reading about eye area surgery.

Notice how the S-N distance is shorter on Asians (Class 3):

View attachment 140618

Apparently, no one managed to archive the lookism thread correctly so there's a bunch of info there that some 10 posts lukers posted that are long gone it is what it is...


In short, when it comes to face development I'd say it goes like this:

Cranial base > Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

* Women naturally are more brachycephaly than men, also has smaller airways...

**Blacks, for example, have wider ramus (from the side) that's why it looks like they have more forward growth on the maxilla, because their wider ramus pushes their maxilla forward.


BTW, if there is any collegecel here who has free access to ElSevier on your college, make me the favor of getting SOM Movie 1, 2, and 3, thanks:

Cranial base topology and basic trends in the facial evolution of Homo

Facial prognathism and projection are important characteristics in human evolution but their three-dimensional (3D) architectonic relationships to bas…

www.sciencedirect.com

I love you, no homo.

 

[Deleted member 3526]

No purpose besides supporting your brain, but your whole face develops based on it. If you have a long middle cranial fossa there will be no mewing for you, you'll have a shit gonial angle regardless, slightly changes on it can change several parts of your face.

Will you have NCT?

Cranial base

Will you have prognathism?

Cranial base

Will you prominent zygos?

Cranial base

and so on...

View attachment 140627




View attachment 140620


For example, I haven't researched much yet but I assume that because Asians usually have bigger brains than whites and blacks is the reason why they don't have deep-set eyes. The bigger brain that developed due to their cold climate probably shortened the anterior cranial fossa, which pushed the sphenoid bone along with it, therefore having less space on the orbital cavity, which pushes the eyes forward. This is just a theory that I have, I've already downloaded some articles and I'll read them after finishing the 1200 page book I'm reading about eye area surgery.

Notice how the S-N distance is shorter on Asians (Class 3):

View attachment 140618

Apparently, no one managed to archive the lookism thread correctly so there's a bunch of info there that some 10 posts lukers posted that are long gone it is what it is...


In short, when it comes to face development I'd say it goes like this:

Cranial base > Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

* Women naturally are more brachycephaly than men, also has smaller airways...

**Blacks, for example, have wider ramus (from the side) that's why it looks like they have more forward growth on the maxilla, because their wider ramus pushes their maxilla forward.


BTW, if there is any collegecel here who has free access to ElSevier on your college, make me the favor of getting SOM Movie 1, 2, and 3, thanks:

Cranial base topology and basic trends in the facial evolution of Homo

Facial prognathism and projection are important characteristics in human evolution but their three-dimensional (3D) architectonic relationships to bas…

www.sciencedirect.com

Good post
I am going to do deep research on it and will use what you have mentioned as reference points

 

[Deleted member 685]

No purpose besides supporting your brain, but your whole face develops based on it. If you have a long middle cranial fossa there will be no mewing for you, you'll have a shit gonial angle regardless, slightly changes on it can change several parts of your face.

Will you have NCT?

Cranial base

Will you have prognathism?

Cranial base

Will you prominent zygos?

Cranial base

and so on...

View attachment 140627




View attachment 140620


For example, I haven't researched much yet but I assume that because Asians usually have bigger brains than whites and blacks is the reason why they don't have deep-set eyes. The bigger brain that developed due to their cold climate probably shortened the anterior cranial fossa, which pushed the sphenoid bone along with it, therefore having less space on the orbital cavity, which pushes the eyes forward. This is just a theory that I have, I've already downloaded some articles and I'll read them after finishing the 1200 page book I'm reading about eye area surgery.

Notice how the S-N distance is shorter on Asians (Class 3):

View attachment 140618

Apparently, no one managed to archive the lookism thread correctly so there's a bunch of info there that some 10 posts lukers posted that are long gone it is what it is...


In short, when it comes to face development I'd say it goes like this:

Cranial base > Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

* Women naturally are more brachycephaly than men, also has smaller airways...

**Blacks, for example, have wider ramus (from the side) that's why it looks like they have more forward growth on the maxilla, because their wider ramus pushes their maxilla forward.


BTW, if there is any collegecel here who has free access to ElSevier on your college, make me the favor of getting SOM Movie 1, 2, and 3, thanks:

Cranial base topology and basic trends in the facial evolution of Homo

Facial prognathism and projection are important characteristics in human evolution but their three-dimensional (3D) architectonic relationships to bas…

www.sciencedirect.com

There was an entire thread about this on lookism. I'm just curious how hypothetically speaking we could optimize the cranial base etc as much as possible during early development

There was an entire thread about this on lookism. I'm just curious how hypothetically speaking we could optimize the cranial base etc as much as possible during early development

BTW, I have the archived thread

 

[Deleted member 3526]

yes there was a thread about it on lookism
it was by 61mmAGDordeath

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Good post
I am going to do deep research on it and will use what you have mentioned as reference points

Start with this:

Cranial base topology and basic trends in the facial evolution of Homo

Here are the articles I've download but didn't had the time to read most of it, you can download them on libgen.is or scihub (go to libgen they have the link to scihub too)

A comparative study of southern Chinese and British Caucasian cephalometric standards

Cranial base in craniofacial development: Developmental features, influence on facial growth, anomaly, and molecular basis

Thin-plate spline analysis of the cranial base in African, Asian and European populations and its relationship with different malocclusions


Evolutionary insights into global patterns of human cranial diversity- population history, climatic and dietary effects

Heritability of human cranial dimensions -- comparing the evolvability of different cranial regions

Temporalis Muscle Hypertrophy and Reduced Skull Eccentricity in Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy

Long-Face Craniofacial Morphology -- Cause or Effect of Weak Masticatory Musculature

(@Gudru)

Misshapen Heads in Babies- Position or Pathology?

Prevention and Management of Positional Skull Deformities in Infants

Skull Morphology Affected by Different Sleep Positions in Infancy

Photo-Realistic Statistical Skull Morphotypes -- New Exemplars for Ancestry and Sex Estimation in Forensic Anthropology

Morphometric Analysis of the Cranial Base in Asians

Sphenoid shortening and the evolution of modern human cranial shape

Cranial Variation of Contemporary East Asians in a Global Context

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Start with this:

What this mean

Cranial Base> Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

Cranial base is not entirely genes? how much environment do %? sorry i really mentally disabled.

(I remember of seeing your posts talking about this in lookism).

 

[Deleted member 3526]

What this mean
Cranial Base> Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

He is just saying cranial base is more important than any of these other things

 

[Deleted member 2227]

He is just saying cranial base is more important than any of these other things

Ah, yes, but how much environment can affect? i think maybe i asking too much so, also, what i said makes sense, means that genes are not more important so cranial base is not entirely genetics.

 

[Deleted member 3526]

Ah, yes, but how much environment can affect? i think maybe i asking too much som

i think it's entirely gentic based

 

[Deleted member 2227]

i think it's entirely gentic based

Fuck, i can't cope with nothing, i will become a Black Pill monster and BlackPill everyone in this forum to makes them cry of being inferior genetically in every single cell existent in their bodys.

 

[Deleted member 1100]

What this mean

Cranial Base> Head shape (Brachy,dolicho,meso...) > Gender* > Genetics** > Masticatory muscles > Airway/Mewing > Head posture

Cranial base is not entirely genes? how much environment do %? sorry i really mentally disabled.

(I remember of seeing your posts talking about this in lookism).

i think it's entirely gentic based

Genetics play a role in everything on that list, but by "Genetics**" I mean things that are more genetic than environmental depended. Your mandible, for example, is genetic depended, but if you work on your masticatory muscles when growing, there will be a morphological change in the bone because of it. The same won't happen to how wide your ramus will be for example, blacks don't have a wider ramus on the side profile because they workout more their masticatory muscles, they just have it.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Genetics play a role in everything on that list, but by "Genetics**" I mean things that are more genetic than environmental depended. Your mandible, for example, is genetic depended, but if you work on your masticatory muscles when growing, there will be a morphological change in the bone because of it. The same won't happen to how wide your ramus will be for example, blacks don't have a wider ramus on the side profile because they workout more their masticatory muscles, they just have it.

Thanks, i think, you need to make some threads, really high IQ and have explanation.

 

[needsolution]

Soon cranial will be another forum meme after lefort3, ipd and midface.

"Bad cranial bro, 3/10"

 

[reptiles]

What purpose does it serve ?
@Lorsss @Deliciadecu

You want the red pill i'll give you the black pill it's ovER

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Soon cranial will be another forum meme after lefort3, ipd and midface.

"Bad cranial bro, 3/10"

Seriously how you can cope so much? ins't retarded being coper was a incel?

 

[reptiles]

Seriously how you can cope so much? ins't retarded being coper was a incel?

Isn't everyone here minus a few chads an incel

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Isn't everyone here minus a few chads an incel

Yes, he is a .co user i sure.

 

[reptiles]

Yes, he is a .co user i sure.

Over for us tbh

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Over for us tbh

My piramid



Slayer=Human
Above avarage=Sub Human
Avarage=Death
Below Avarage=Never began
Dephormed=???


It's proved that woman don't find 70% of males attractive.

 

[needsolution]

Seriously how you can cope so much? ins't retarded being coper was a incel?

Yes, he is a .co user i sure.

How old are you? If less than 16 then may be there is some hope for you.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

How old are you? If less than 16 then may be there is some hope for you.

No bro, i pretty sure my genetic is cucked so, i see friends with 14 and already jawline... i get mogged every time in school, outside every by old people, it's over.

 

[SayNoToRotting]

The whole mewing vs cranial base is a massive logical falacy. Because cranial base doesn't disprove mewing, it just shows that some people tend to have better facial characteristics genetically.
Mechanical laws still apply to all people, but some will always be in a greater advantage genetically.


And most forget that these are the type of people to naturally have a PLS1+ face:

A PLS1+ is almost non existent in any other ethnicity, no one is genetically determined to have such wide nasal openings, interpupilar distance, and bimaxillary portrusion.

You see, PLS1+ also brings a few unattractive features such as wide noses and bimaxillary portrusion.

 

[Deleted member 3526]

cranial base doesn't disprove mewing,

No one said it did

 

[SayNoToRotting]

No one said it did

have you ever read the thread on lookism.net?

 

[Deleted member 3526]

have you ever read the thread on lookism.net?

no

 

[FatJattMofo]

how do know your own type?

 

[FatJattMofo]

nGER tell me how I figure this out
nGER tell me how I figure this out

 

[Deleted member 2227]

nGER tell me how I figure this out
nGER tell me how I figure this out

I think, you have hunter eyes so you are probably close to PSL +1 in this image

 

[wellthatsucks]

have you ever read the thread on lookism.net?

Yes

People mouthbreath because of their shit airway because of their shit cranial base

Cranial base stops changing at around 7

Yadayadayada, mewing is cope unless they teach the blackpill in preschool

 

[SayNoToRotting]

Yes

People mouthbreath because of their shit airway because of their shit cranial base


Cranial base stops changing at around 7

Yadayadayada, mewing is cope unless they teach the blackpill in preschool

Lol first you say that people are born with it, then you talk about "change" and also throw out the number 7.
If change is possible at age 7, do you even know how much more change is possible right after birth, and the first months of your life?
Those months are considered to be the most crucial for cranial development, as it's already accepted amongst most orthodontists.

The difference between an infant and a 7 year old kid is far greater than between a 7 year old and a grown person.

It's not fair to talk about cranial base here though, I am not an expert, but craniofacial development during childhood is almost independent from the sutures in your neurocranium (which determine the cranial base)






Also, are you aware that a cranial base difference as severe as this one, or even just remotely close to this one:

is the difference between bottom percentile white, borderline deformed terra birdcels, and the blackest of the blackest bush niggers?
(Yes, that skull belongs to an dolphin-eyed, dog-snouted black guy, and not your prototypical Chad)

Most people are in between, and don't have to overcome centimeters of retruded bone to improve airway space.

 

[wellthatsucks]

Lol first you say that people are born with it then you talk about "change" and also throw out the number 7.
If change is possible at age 7, do you even know how much more change is possible right after birth, and the first months of your life?
Those months are considered to be the most crucial for cranial development, as it's already accepted amongst most orthodontists.

The difference between an infant and a 7 year old kid is far greater than between a 7 year old and a grown person.

Also, are you aware that a cranial base difference as severe as this one, or even just remotely close to this one:

is the difference between bottom percentile white, borderline deformed terra birdcels, and the blackest of the blackest bush niggers
(Yes, that skull belongs to an dolphin-eyed black guy, ad not your prototypical Chad) ?

Most people are in between, and don't have to overcome centimeters of retruded bone to improve airway space.

Zesto is retarded for deleting that thread with the research on the subject matter and the first page isnt cached so I honestly have nothing to reference and I cba to go through each study rn

@delicadecu is a lot more well versed than I am

All I can take is that cranial base is primarily genetic and we know this because we can look at our parents

But yeah it might seem possible if you were to take a child (<7 yo) and stuff him with all these appliances to accelerate growth with much more force

 

[Hekt0r]

>cranial base determines nct

 

[Deleted member 1100]

>cranial base determines nct

It's one of the factors

 

[reptiles]

Zesto is retarded for deleting that thread with the research on the subject matter and the first page isnt cached so I honestly have nothing to reference and I cba to go through each study rn

@delicadecu is a lot more well versed than I am

All I can take is that cranial base is primarily genetic and we know this because we can look at our parents

But yeah it might seem possible if you were to take a child (<7 yo) and stuff him with all these appliances to accelerate growth with much more force

We have a a archived page on the cranial base

Fuck, i can't cope with nothing, i will become a Black Pill monster and BlackPill everyone in this forum to makes them cry of being inferior genetically in every single cell existent in their bodys.

And then cope and rope will come save us with his innovations

 

[Hekt0r]

apparently a lot of the sutures dont close until adulthood. makes me wonder if you can somehow improve it, angle of the cranial base seems to correlate with position of maxilla, not the other way around if you understand me

 

[Deleted member 2227]

It's one of the factors

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I pretty sure that I am between, my eyes are totally hunter wide and looks a bit asian

 

[Deleted member 3962]

Why give a shit about something you cant change? Focus on what you can.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Why give a shit about something you cant change? Focus on what you can.

Bro this is important asf and destroy many copes here.

 

[Deleted member 3962]

Bro this is important asf and destroy many copes here.

If u have pct and visable zygos you should be fine right?

 

[FatJattMofo]

If u have pct and visable zygos you should be fine right?

wdym?

 

[Deleted member 3962]

wdym?

Poor cranial base fucks with your orbitals doesnt it? If you have decent orbitals your cranial base should be fine right?

 

[FatJattMofo]

Poor cranial base fucks with your orbitals doesnt it? If you have decent orbitals your cranial base should be fine right?

thats not all. ideal growth has many factors

 

[Deleted member 3962]

thats not all. ideal growth has many factors

Yes, but it seems like a truly irredimable cranial face would be accompanied with truly irredeemable orbitals.

 

[Chadelite]

why do i have top tier hunter eyes but recessed mandible?

 

[Deleted member 3526]

why do i have top tier hunter eyes but recessed mandible?

your recessed chin from the negroid admixture in you

 

[Deleted member 2748]

why do i have top tier hunter eyes but recessed mandible?

god tier necro tbh