Measuring Attractive Faces

[randomvanish]

Since i don't have any recession or malloclusion, i'll get zygo + mandible implants soon.
To design a good implant i need to get exact sizes for my face to calculate good ratios i can get.

I have;

• 134mm bizygomatic distance
• 114mm bigonial distance
• 55mm mouth width
• 38mm chin width
• 126 degree gonial angle

I tried to calculate some attractive faces with the iris method*

Basically i'm trying to understand what size they have so i can compare myself with similar phenos i can copy. What else should i do ?


*https://lookism.net/threads/the-iris-can-be-used-to-measure-the-face-confirmed.335851/

 

[randomvanish]

@Acromegaly_Chad @StrangerDanger @thecel @RealSurgerymax @Win200 @scalpel @Sergio-OMS @AlexChase89 @RealLooksmaxxer @AscendingHero @Haven @Deusmaximus @Lorsss

 

[Deleted member 4106]

134mm bizygomatic distance

are you sure you measured it right?

 

[randomvanish]

are you sure you measured it right?

yeah i'm pretty sure

 

[randomvanish]

are you sure you measured it right?

is there database for bigonial distance too?

 

[randomvanish]

@ArvidGustavsson measure your face and share here

 

[Deleted member 4106]

is there database for bigonial distance too?

it's just that now I can't find

 

[randomvanish]

it's just that now I can't find

share it if you find

 

[randomvanish]

are you sure you measured it right?

this is so wrong i guess. or maybe they measure really big men. biggest zygos i measure was like 147mm on celebrities.
johnny depp has 146 for example.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

i measure was like 147mm on celebrities.

this is the 70th percentitle. And measuring by photos is not very accurate

 

[randomvanish]

. And measuring by photos is not very accurate

why not ? with proper distance and camera, it makes really correct

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

are you sure you measured it right?

Looks like I'm in the 90th percentile, just LOL. I have ogre tier zygos and brow ridge.
85° gonial angle. Once my jaw is expanded and forward grown I'm fully ogremaxxed at 6'5
Even my head circumference is ogre tier with 60cm and my head is not even longish, it's rather tallish, probably enough space for a large brain which means I'm more likely to get brain cancer

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

Since i don't have any recession or malloclusion, i'll get zygo + mandible implants soon.
To design a good implant i need to get exact sizes for my face to calculate good ratios i can get.

I have;

• 134mm bizygomatic distance
• 114mm bigonial distance
• 55mm mouth width
• 38mm chin width
• 126 degree gonial angle

I tried to calculate some attractive faces with the iris method*
View attachment 1353104


Basically i'm trying to understand what size they have so i can compare myself with similar phenos i can copy. What else should i do ?


*https://lookism.net/threads/the-iris-can-be-used-to-measure-the-face-confirmed.335851/

In my opinion way too complex, attractiveness can barely be reduced to a few distances and ratios. And harmony is a question of perspective anyways...

 

[randomvanish]

In my opinion way too complex, attractiveness can barely be reduced to a few distances and ratios. And harmony is a question of perspective anyways...

how come ?

you talk like being attractive is a mysterious thing.

 

[randomvanish]

In my opinion way too complex, attractiveness can barely be reduced to a few distances and ratios. And harmony is a question of perspective anyways...

i don't believe in harmony btw. harmony is bullshit. harmony is like just having bunch of good and bad ratios together.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

how come ?

you talk like being attractive is a mysterious thing.

Its subjective

 

[Deleted member 4106]

Looks like I'm in the 90th percentile, just LOL. I have ogre tier zygos and brow ridge.
85° gonial angle. Once my jaw is expanded and forward grown I'm fully ogremaxxed at 6'5
Even my head circumference is ogre tier with 60cm and my head is not even longish, it's rather tallish, probably enough space for a large brain which means I'm more likely to get brain cancer

I'm close to the 90th percentile, and I'm 56cm in circumference lol

 

[JosephGarrot123]

is your zygos and bigonial supposed to be wider than your forehead? Mine is wider than my forehead but it's too wide I look like a fucking gorilla

 

[randomvanish]

is your zygos and bigonial supposed to be wider than your forehead? Mine is wider than my forehead but it's too wide I look like a fucking gorilla

zygos need to be slightly bigger with angularity but not necessarily

 

[randomvanish]

Its subjective

prefferred types are different topic, attractiveness is quite objective.

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

Its subjective

i don't believe in harmony btw. harmony is bullshit. harmony is like just having bunch of good and bad ratios together.

Not really subjective, but it takes way too many factors into account.
Let alone for interzygo distance I can imagine that bigonial distance, mouth width, nose width, IPD, eyebrows, temple width and maybe even chin width are relevant.

It's way easier to just show around the morph to a few dozen people who understand attractiveness and looks theory than calculating hundreds of ratios.

 

[randomvanish]

Not really subjective, but it takes way too many factors into account.
Let alone for interzygo distance I can imagine that bigonial distance, mouth width, nose width, IPD, eyebrows, temple width and maybe even chin width are relevant.

It's way easier to just show around the morph to a few dozen people who understand attractiveness and looks theory than calculating hundreds of ratios.

i agree on that, i don't have any problem with other ratios that's why i only focus on ipd,es ratio, bizygo/bigonial and chin width.

it can be measured very well. it's complex but not very hard to achieve it.

 

[alainchalamet]

wtf is your head just tiny? what's your head circumference? my bizygomatic is like 150mm lol

 

[randomvanish]

wtf is your head just tiny? what's your head circumference? my bizygomatic is like 150mm lol

strangely i don't have a tiny face or head. are you measuring wrong maybe?

 

[alainchalamet]

strangely i don't have a tiny face or head. are you measuring wrong maybe?

yeah maybe I don't have calipers (who does lol) so kind of hard to measure

 

[randomvanish]

yeah maybe I don't have calipers (who does lol) so kind of hard to measure

oh without caliphers measurements are pretty much wrong. i was getting 148 for zygos but it's actually 134

 

[eduardkoopman]

Since i don't have any recession or malloclusion, i'll get zygo + mandible implants soon.
To design a good implant i need to get exact sizes for my face to calculate good ratios i can get.

I have;

• 134mm bizygomatic distance
• 114mm bigonial distance
• 55mm mouth width
• 38mm chin width
• 126 degree gonial angle

I tried to calculate some attractive faces with the iris method*
View attachment 1353104


Basically i'm trying to understand what size they have so i can compare myself with similar phenos i can copy. What else should i do ?


*https://lookism.net/threads/the-iris-can-be-used-to-measure-the-face-confirmed.335851/

Angularity factor ("forward growth") gets overlooked, when just measuring full frontal.
While angularity is very important for looks appeal. Pancake, or recessed midface, or recessed lower third can easily be overlooked, if just looking at full frontal.

While in daily life, and so on. People see us 90+% of the time from angles.

 

[alainchalamet]

oh without caliphers measurements are pretty much wrong. i was getting 148 for zygos but it's actually 134

damn you actually bought calipers I admire the dedication and yeah mine are probably shorter

 

[randomvanish]

Angularity factor ("forward growth") gets overlooked, when just measuring full frontal.
While angularity is very important for looks appeal. Pancake, or recessed midface, or recessed lower third can easily be overlooked, if just looking at full frontal.

can you elaborate more on this?

 

[Deleted member 15406]

Since i don't have any recession or malloclusion, i'll get zygo + mandible implants soon.
To design a good implant i need to get exact sizes for my face to calculate good ratios i can get.

I have;

• 134mm bizygomatic distance
• 114mm bigonial distance
• 55mm mouth width
• 38mm chin width
• 126 degree gonial angle

I tried to calculate some attractive faces with the iris method*
View attachment 1353104


Basically i'm trying to understand what size they have so i can compare myself with similar phenos i can copy. What else should i do ?


*https://lookism.net/threads/the-iris-can-be-used-to-measure-the-face-confirmed.335851/

could someone or link me something wtf does this mean

 

[randomvanish]

could someone or link me something wtf does this mean

iris is nearly the same for people, it's 11.77mm approximately, so we can measure by using iris width.

 

[Deleted member 15406]

iris is nearly the same for people, it's 11.77mm approximately, so we can measure by using iris width.

tf ur talking about muh mm idk bro could you know where do i start

 

[randomvanish]

tf ur talking about muh mm idk bro could you know where do i start

jesus type better and make a proper sentence, i don't understand what you are struggling rn

 

[Deleted member 15406]

jesus type better and make a proper sentence, i don't understand what you are struggling rn

fine i just need help understanding this

 

[dakchuh]

are you sure you measured it right?

my bizygoma is 16cm with 60cm head circumference on a 5'8 body
im baby proportions maxxed

 

[Phillybeard1996]

My zygos wide af but idk if I'm measuring correcr

 

[randomvanish]

My zygos wide af but idk if I'm measuring correcr

my bizygoma is 16cm with 60cm head circumference on a 5'8 body
im baby proportions maxxed

how did you measure ?

 

[dakchuh]

how did you measure ?

put my face between closet doors, measured 16cm. also standing about 2m away from a mirror with ruler across my face, also about 16cm.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Just look up the normal ratio theads. Jaw chin ratio ideals are the same for all phenotypes, even niggers

 

[randomvanish]

Just look up the normal ratio theads. Jaw chin ratio ideals are the same for all phenotypes, even niggers

to design implant i need to understand sizes too.

put my face between closet doors, measured 16cm. also standing about 2m away from a mirror with ruler across my face, also about 16cm.

you probably measure it wrong. go to store, use calipher without buying if you are broke. measurement should be done with caliphers.

 

[dakchuh]

to design implant i need to understand sizes too.


you probably measure it wrong. go to store, use calipher without buying if you are broke. measurement should be done with caliphers.

no im pretty sure im correct. ive also mathed out my 66mm IPD against my ~0.415 ES (measured from pictures), which gives me just about 16cm bizygoma. i have a very big head.

 

[randomvanish]

no im pretty sure im correct. ive also mathed out my 66mm IPD against my ~0.415 ES (measured from pictures), which gives me just about 16cm bizygoma. i have a very big head.

i see but use caliphers for presicion.

 

[dakchuh]

i see but use caliphers for presicion.

okay i will

 

[Blackgymmax]

Looks like youre already good to go

to design implant i need to understand sizes too.

 

[randomvanish]

Looks like youre already good to go

wdym?

 

[Blackgymmax]

wdym?

You know your absolute measurements so you can just adjust them to fit the ideal ratios and you should be fine, right? Unless im misunderstanding and youre having trouble measuring your face w extreme accuracy, i swear these surgeons have tech that can do it better than you manually can

 

[Phillybeard1996]

how did you measure ?

The top part my zygos are super wide but low set

 

[randomvanish]

You know your absolute measurements so you can just adjust them to fit the ideal ratios and you should be fine, right? Unless im misunderstanding and youre having trouble measuring your face w extreme accuracy, i swear these surgeons have tech that can do it better than you manually can

they are extremely accurate sizing the skull but soft tissues are something different. also, i don't trust including myself to create a "more attractive" face since i've seen so many bad implant results.
however, mostly yes i'm pretty ok and i don't think i'll get an uncanny look since i don'T aim to get absurdly large or angular implants.

i'm just trying to make it perfect as possible i can.


also, since i have kinda narrow lower third, i though there must be way too much size diffeence between me and attractive people. but it's not.
henry cavill have approximately 125mm bigonial distance for example. it's only 10 mm difference between me and him. i would say something like 15~20 if i didn't research enough.

i saw some people getting 13~15 mm jaw implants each side ! imagine how big is that.

this guy for example got 14mm per side, it's ridiculous

 

[randomvanish]

The top part my zygos are super wide but low set

no i meant the tool, with rulers or caliphers? how did you measure?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

no i meant the tool, with rulers or caliphers? how did you measure?

Calipers