[MEGATHREAD] 2026 FACEPULLING COLLECTION

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Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

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HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

View attachment 4579511View attachment 4579514View attachment 4579516

HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

View attachment 4579511View attachment 4579514View attachment 4579516

HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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read every word but probably wont try this
 
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Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

View attachment 4579511View attachment 4579514View attachment 4579516

HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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@SEA FIT @the_nextDavidLaid @Tr0ubLe
can i try this if im turning 18 in 8 months?
 
good stuff, i saw the other forums about f1 facepulling, and ive been diong it for around a month now. ive noticed palatal changes aswell as noticing how im sleeping better because i can keep the tongue at the roof of my mouth for the first time in my life during my entire sleep. i wake up noticing almost every 2-3 days that my tongue fits even better because of this.

i havent been perfect in this regimen, because of mentality and time issues. i didnt really know how to start as well so i did max force for like 3 days before changing it to lighter forces. i have also noticed some ccw rotation, slight but not much.

since ive been doing this for around 4-5 weeks or so, ill continue going at a steady pace. ive noticed that i can endure harder forces than in the beginning, and i do have constant neck soreness, but it goes away within the first rep of doing this. i am quite unsure though, because of the short time span ive indulged in this, im not sure if i should continue to up the force as i can handle or just simply listen to my body. this is all insanely new to me and i have nothing to lose so im willing to ascend with crazy looking methods like these.

after writing this ill go ahead and do some f1 pulling, and if the OG poster has to say anything about what i wrote then please do. I take any criticism and help as needed. ill definitely show progress in some months to show you how it all works out.
 
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true kim jong un
 
blessed algorithm. i will be autistic enough to do this, hopping on mk anyways so might as well cope a little harder :D
any measurements i should take to record any growth? (palate,etc.)
 
Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

View attachment 4579511View attachment 4579514View attachment 4579516

HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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Definetly an argument to be made, but realistically its over if you attempt to do this past the development stage, As the damage is already done. Bimax is always the wisest option, though I've seen people get jaw recession AGAIN even following a bimax, and as such maybe this can be implemented to maintain bone structure following a double jaw surgery.
 
do i do this once a day or twice a day
in the beginning, do this for around 3 times a day or two. id say you should hit around 10-15 reps of these, but make sure as the original poster said to go light force in the beginning at 50% and afte rlike 1 month and a half to two months you begin going full force. you could do like one time during the morning 5 reps, then when you come home from school or something you do another 5 reps and then an hour or so before bed you do another 5 reps and youve got your schedule right htere. thats how i do it anyways and its doing wonders for me.

ill be doing 50% for another week or two before going 100% and actually making the visual changes happen, but as of rn ive noticed my palate getting wider and my tongue fitting better, as well as help tremendously with my overbite. im really excited to see what happens in this whole year for my ascension
 
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in the beginning, do this for around 3 times a day or two. id say you should hit around 10-15 reps of these, but make sure as the original poster said to go light force in the beginning at 50% and afte rlike 1 month and a half to two months you begin going full force. you could do like one time during the morning 5 reps, then when you come home from school or something you do another 5 reps and then an hour or so before bed you do another 5 reps and youve got your schedule right htere. thats how i do it anyways and its doing wonders for me.

ill be doing 50% for another week or two before going 100% and actually making the visual changes happen, but as of rn ive noticed my palate getting wider and my tongue fitting better, as well as help tremendously with my overbite. im really excited to see what happens in this whole year for my ascension
so am i supposed to do 9 sets in tottal everyday?
 
Can I do with braces
Idk, but i think it wldnt be good since the braces are alrwady tryibg to aligb your teeth. Personally ill never use braces, because of how the teeth are connected to ur nervous system, and by f1 face oulling and expanding the palate + the right nutrition will allow you to fix your teeth placement a lot.

Almost fixed my overbite and has made a lot of my teeth straighter within just a month of light forces. Starting 90-100% forces next week, and thats wheb the real transformarion happens
 
Idk, but i think it wldnt be good since the braces are alrwady tryibg to aligb your teeth. Personally ill never use braces, because of how the teeth are connected to ur nervous system, and by f1 face oulling and expanding the palate + the right nutrition will allow you to fix your teeth placement a lot.

Almost fixed my overbite and has made a lot of my teeth straighter within just a month of light forces. Starting 90-100% forces next week, and thats wheb the real transformarion happens
So I got 2 months till braces, can I start doing it, idk how to do f1 face pulling since I dot. Got the equipment but can I just pull on a towel?
 
So I got 2 months till braces, can I start doing it, idk how to do f1 face pulling since I dot. Got the equipment but can I just pull on a towel?
Ye 2 months is a lot lf work before braces, but bro if youre going to do this i would recommend you not getting braces, either way dont. Focus on eating the right stuff, and making sure that your palate gets wider and whatnot, because the solution isnt always braces, its mostly because of poor development that still can be fixed through nourishment and facepulling.

If you have discord or somerhing i can teach you all about this. My discord is fighterhp. If you have any other apps lmk
 
Ye 2 months is a lot lf work before braces, but bro if youre going to do this i would recommend you not getting braces, either way dont. Focus on eating the right stuff, and making sure that your palate gets wider and whatnot, because the solution isnt always braces, its mostly because of poor development that still can be fixed through nourishment and facepulling.

If you have discord or somerhing i can teach you all about this. My discord is fighterhp. If you have any other apps lmk
Sent
 
So u should count this by reps instead of sets. Try to aim for 10-15 times a day, if you got any more questions lmk
am i supposed to use my back molars aswell? because i can only fit my premolars and not every single tooth when im doing it
 
all of your questions are already answered in the threads ive linked
 
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all of your questions are already answered in the threads ive linked
Thanks for the info bro, i was so excited when i saw this post that i skipped the threads bro. Ill read all of them later. Facepulling at 90-100% rn first time and holy dhit the force on my face. Its like i feel this constant warmth and pressure in my ears and face and shit idek bro its crazy
 
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Man wtf on my third ser just now when i let go it deadass felt as if i had dragged my face firwaed some distance. Ifk how do explain it, but it seriouslt felt as u was krtting go that i had bringed my maxilla and the bones around it forward, as it slowly adjusted itself when i went from 100-0% force. The let go had me kind of moan and i sat still for 10 seconds jus ttrying to fucking process what i went theough
 
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Man wtf on my third ser just now when i let go it deadass felt as if i had dragged my face firwaed some distance. Ifk how do explain it, but it seriouslt felt as u was krtting go that i had bringed my maxilla and the bones around it forward, as it slowly adjusted itself when i went from 100-0% force. The let go had me kind of moan and i sat still for 10 seconds jus ttrying to fucking process what i went theough
mfer larping :lul:
 
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Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

View attachment 4579511View attachment 4579514View attachment 4579516

HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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@SEA FIT @the_nextDavidLaid @Tr0ubLe
towel pulling the humongous 25

@yussimania humble him 😂✌️
 
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Man wtf on my third ser just now when i let go it deadass felt as if i had dragged my face firwaed some distance. Ifk how do explain it, but it seriouslt felt as u was krtting go that i had bringed my maxilla and the bones around it forward, as it slowly adjusted itself when i went from 100-0% force. The let go had me kind of moan and i sat still for 10 seconds jus ttrying to fucking process what i went theough
HAHAHAHAHAH IM CRYING BRO

WHAT IS THIS 😭😭😭😭😭

@rraymond
@Idontknow-
@MouthBreathingElite
 
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HAHAHAHAHAH IM CRYING BRO

WHAT IS THIS 😭😭😭😭😭

@rraymond
@Idontknow-
@MouthBreathingElite
Son I dont understand it. It doesnt seem like English
 
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HAHAHAHAHAH IM CRYING BRO

WHAT IS THIS 😭😭😭😭😭

@rraymond
@Idontknow-
@MouthBreathingElite
Facepulling made bro orgasm :what:
 
On ME SOUL i will ascend and deadass i felt how malleable my bones were in one moment whilst letting go of all the force. And i will fucking show yall bro this is insane idfc if i bust a nut mid set of the sheer force on my fucking skull. Yall think im larping n shit bro just wait. And holy shit im addicted to face pulling bro this feeling is insane
 
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Does this mimic the same movement? -

if we adjusted the angle
 
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and what about dog tug toys do they mimic a similar stimulus?
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Does this mimic the same movement? -

if we adjusted the angle

nowhere near the force that y ou can apply with f1 face pulling. also depends on if you want downgrowth or more upwards growth
 
Wouldnt a diy facemask thats meant for aesthetic forward growth like this https://looksmax.org/threads/how-to-pull-your-maxilla-forward-definitive-guide.45691/ be more efficient than facepulling since its pulling for hours everyday instead of a couple minutes, i havent read yet but ill read this and all the threads listed when school ends which is in an hour, im 14 too so i assume my sutures are still open and any method would be effective in this field of facial aesthetics, i rlly hope i fix my maxilla and have it grow forward and upwards with some ccw rotation too hopefully. Also would this also affect the upper maxilla too? I dont wanna look like a ape with my lips sticking out if its only for the lower part of the maxilla jfl
 
Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

View attachment 4579511View attachment 4579514View attachment 4579516

HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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@SEA FIT @the_nextDavidLaid @Tr0ubLe
i've been making some research on that since i want to start doing it, but im unsure about the tilted teeth part, specially when talking abt frontal teeth. gpt said this: ''

Can “dental tilting” be avoided by biting hard with all teeth?​


No.
the force still passes primarily through the teeth and the periodontal ligaments, not directly into the cranial sutures.


That means the risks remain:


  • tooth tipping (dental tilting),
  • tooth mobility,''
so like, idk if i got something wrong abt the positioning of the towel inside the mouth or stuff, can you elaborate further for me ?
(have in mind i also asked gpt abt chin tucking to the chest in that one prompt so he considered that)
 
i've been making some research on that since i want to start doing it, but im unsure about the tilted teeth part, specially when talking abt frontal teeth. gpt said this: ''

Can “dental tilting” be avoided by biting hard with all teeth?​


No.
the force still passes primarily through the teeth and the periodontal ligaments, not directly into the cranial sutures.


That means the risks remain:


  • tooth tipping (dental tilting),
  • tooth mobility,''
so like, idk if i got something wrong abt the positioning of the towel inside the mouth or stuff, can you elaborate further for me ?
(have in mind i also asked gpt abt chin tucking to the chest in that one prompt so he considered that)
bro if you’re high inhib just don’t do it, nobody cares
 
i've been making some research on that since i want to start doing it, but im unsure about the tilted teeth part, specially when talking abt frontal teeth. gpt said this: ''

Can “dental tilting” be avoided by biting hard with all teeth?​


No.
the force still passes primarily through the teeth and the periodontal ligaments, not directly into the cranial sutures.


That means the risks remain:


  • tooth tipping (dental tilting),
  • tooth mobility,''
so like, idk if i got something wrong abt the positioning of the towel inside the mouth or stuff, can you elaborate further for me ?
(have in mind i also asked gpt abt chin tucking to the chest in that one prompt so he considered that)
you have to be biting with all your palette and ensure that the towel is accurately thick for your teeth to bite onto. your front teeth should not be tipping excessively since youre going to be biting down as hard as you physically can, but it is fine if they do.

in the beginning i had my ftont teeth tipping outwards excessively because i had no experience, but i quickly realised that it wasnt a problem since our teeth are made for it. the main thing is that you bite down hard with all your teeth (roughly) so that you feel the force in your face. you will quickly learn how to bite down and adjust the towel (the equipemtn) to optimize pulling technique.

either way, if you do not want to risk this get out of here and dont come back. we are here to become the best versions of ourself and naturally risking some stuff to acheive greatness is a part of learning and being better
 
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you have to be biting with all your palette and ensure that the towel is accurately thick for your teeth to bite onto. your front teeth should not be tipping excessively since youre going to be biting down as hard as you physically can, but it is fine if they do.

in the beginning i had my ftont teeth tipping outwards excessively because i had no experience, but i quickly realised that it wasnt a problem since our teeth are made for it. the main thing is that you bite down hard with all your teeth (roughly) so that you feel the force in your face. you will quickly learn how to bite down and adjust the towel (the equipemtn) to optimize pulling technique.

either way, if you do not want to risk this get out of here and dont come back. we are here to become the best versions of ourself and naturally risking some stuff to acheive greatness is a part of learning and being better
ty bro. risks are all in life. if its not taking away my right to take other risks later, im there
 
you have to be biting with all your palette and ensure that the towel is accurately thick for your teeth to bite onto. your front teeth should not be tipping excessively since youre going to be biting down as hard as you physically can, but it is fine if they do.

in the beginning i had my ftont teeth tipping outwards excessively because i had no experience, but i quickly realised that it wasnt a problem since our teeth are made for it. the main thing is that you bite down hard with all your teeth (roughly) so that you feel the force in your face. you will quickly learn how to bite down and adjust the towel (the equipemtn) to optimize pulling technique.

either way, if you do not want to risk this get out of here and dont come back. we are here to become the best versions of ourself and naturally risking some stuff to acheive greatness is a part of learning and being better
also, did u notice improvements ?
 
Stop blaming your parents. Your face is recessed because you’ve treated your skull like a decorative ornament instead of a biological tool.

The Premise: Humans are carnivores. Carnivores tear. The act of yanking meat off a bone creates massive forward/upward tension on the maxilla. Modern "fork and knife" culture has deleted this stimuli leading to "melting" faces, narrow airways, and recessed profiles. We arent ugly: were under stimulated.
Modern food is mush. You put it in your mouth and swallow. No pulling = no tension = your face "melts" downward over generations. You weren't "born" recessed. Your environment just didnt give your skull a reason to grow forward.

Ive been lurking the archives and it’s pathetic. the last time anyone talked about actual facepulling was march 2025 and the knowledge has completely stagnated. Most of you are still hanging from doorframes like idiots and wondering why your midface is still flat and your maxilla is in another zip code
Ive spent the last year synthesizing the Donsjohns era diagrams with F1-style rowing mechanics. If you want to stop being a recessed goy and actually achieve the Hunter look, you need to understand that beauty isnt a gift from God it's a mechanical adaptation to environment.

before you type "it’s over just ldar," shut up and listen. The nature vs. nurture dichotomy is a false flag. Your "nature" is just the collection of "nurtures" from your ancestors. genetic mutations arent random they are driven by purposeful adaptation to the environment.

If your lineage spent the last 3 generations eating soft slop and mouth-breathing, your "genes" will reflect that recession. But the skull remains plastic. Metabolic rate and mechanical tension determine bone density and position. You aren't "destined" to be a midfacecel youve just been living in a low-tension environment.


THE "DONSJOHNS" REVOLUTION & ARCHIVE LINKS

Im linking the sources below because the guys who pioneered this have been nuked or deleted. This information is getting harder to find and if we dont preserve it, the forum will just devolve into "rate me" threads forever.

The Holy Grail Archive and others:





Read these if you have the IQ for it. I’ve synthesized the key parts here, but the original diagrams (if the links still work) show exactly how the force should wrap around the skull and i linked some more relating to this content

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HOW TO EXECUTE
simple said you bite into a towel which youve folded a couple times to make it thicker and you bite down as hard as you can symetrical bite placement into the towel its very important for you to bite down as hard as possible to reduce dental tilting, hold the towel with your hands as close to your lips for max control of force and start subtly pulling your wrist away from your mouth pulling the towel and hold the towel with your hand very hard and the same time also try moving your chin to your chest simultaneously as you pull the towel away from you and as you bite down onto the towel as hard. so you would be clenching your jaw which holds the towel in your mouth, clenching your hands which hold the towel and also pull it away from your mouth and you would move your chin towards your chest - all of this AT THE SAME time. important note, when you go into doing this or you about to end doing this, you need to sublty let the clenching and the force contraction smoothly pass to zero, this is kinda like driving a car and needing to stop for the red light, you dont go full brake, you limo brake/stop, and ''limo'' start. now if youve already tried that mutliple times youll get tired from the clenching, try putting your wrist under your knee and using your leg as resistance instead of you having to pull your wrist away. its allot easier and the leverage gives you more ability to facepull harder, even harder is with the f1 but thats only if you know what youre doing, this method is risky but rewarding. do it at your own risk.

The reason standard mewing fails many is the lack of significant mechanical tension. To move the maxilla in an adult, you need to trigger Osteoblastic activity at the sutures specifically the Zygomaticomaxillary and Transverse Palatine sutures.
The Physics of the Yank: When you bite and pull forward (The Rowing Motion), you are creating a Class III traction effect without the headgear. By using your legs and back (the "F1" force), you are applying a load that the tongue simply cannot replicate.

The reason why everyone on this forum is failing with standard mewing/thumbpulling/palateexpander is because theyre trying to move a literal boulder with a toothpick. Your tongue is a muscle, sure, but its not designed to counteract the decades of soft food atrophy and mouth breathing that melted your face in the first place. This is where F1 facepulling or any facepulling beats thumbpulling/mewing. When you look at how a lion or a wolf tears through a carcass, they aren't just "chewing" they are using their entire posterior chain to yank and stabilize.

That "rowing" motion youre doing with the towel is literally mimicking the predatory feeding cycle that built the human skull. By biting down at 100% force, youre locking the maxilla and mandible into a single unit, and when you pull using your legs/back, youre creating massive mechanical tension on the sutures. youre basically forcing the skull to realize it’s in a "high-load" environment. Most of you guys are worried about "tipping teeth," but as long as youre biting down hard on a thick enough surface (like a rolled-up towel), the force is distributed across the entire dental arch and directly into the palatine bone.

The "Look Down" cue is the most important part of this whole breakthrough. If you just pull forward while looking up, youre going to end up with a long, horse face midface. You have to tuck that chin and pull "against" the base of the skull. This creates the counter-clockwise rotation (CCW) that actually compacts the face. It’s what gives you that deep-set eye look and the high, flared zygos. You arent just moving the jaw forward youre swinging the entire facial mask upward.

Ive been doing this for 6 months and the changes arent just "subtle bloat" or light frauding. my airway opened up so much I feel like I'm breathing 4K air my undereye support actually exists now. The "genetics" guys will see your progress and say you "ascended" via puberty or some other low-IQ excuse but the reality is just physics. You’re remodeling the bone because youre finally giving it a reason to be strong. but now if someone ask me how i did it ill just gatekeep it :forcedsmile: saying yeah bro just drink some water get some sleep, puberty will do the rest! because this method is actually the way. if everyone knew this, everyone would be true adam and looks inflation is gonna rise again.


Why Youngcels (U18) Should Stay Away​

I see 15yr olds on here asking about this DO NOT DO THIS. Your sutures havent even finished their primary growth phase. If you apply 100% manual force with your legs and back to a developing skull you are going to give yourself a midface deformity or catastrophic dental crowding. Stick to chewing tough meats and until your skull ossifies. For the rest of us (18-25+), the sutures are "asleep." We have to "wake them up" with the incremental force I outlined.
and because you youngcels are stupid for the most part.

The 2cm Goal​

People think 2cm of forward growth is impossible without a LeFort III. Its not. It’s just a matter of time and mechanical stress. Look at the tribes who do skull binding or the people who use dental appliances for years. The bone moves where the tension tells it to move. If you give your body a reason to build a hunters face by simulating the absolute brutality of a carnivore's feeding pattern—it will adapt. It has no choice.
Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you do this for a week and quit because your head hurts, stay recessed. the ''fascial gym'' requires the same discipline as the regular gym. You are literally bodybuilding your bone structure.

THE METABOLIC FIRE WHY YOUR BONE IS STAGNANT​

Most of you lowTcels think you can just pull on your face and ascend while living on a diet of seed oils and soy. bone remodeling isnt just about the pull, If your metabolic rate is trashed, your body isnt going to waste calcium and phosphorus building out your maxilla. Its going to prioritize keeping your organs from failing because you're malnourished. If your body has the raw materials massive amounts of K2, D3, and animal protein etc it will flood those micro gaps with new bone matrix. This is how you "permanently" move the maxilla. If you're doing this while being on a nutrient-deficient diet, youre just stretching skin and giving yourself a headache for nothing. Treat your face like a healing fracture. When you break a bone, it heals back thicker. When you "stretch" a suture, it fills in wider. its just like the gym dont expect getting bigger if you dont eat.

THE ORBITAL RIM VECTOR HOW TO GET HOODED EYES​

The biggest mistake on this forum is thinking facepulling is only for the jawline. If you want the "Hunter" look, you need infraorbital support. The force vector from the towel dosent just stop at your teeth it travels through the palatine bone and terminates right at the orbital rims.
By using the "Look Down" cue I mentioned earlier you are aiming that tension directly at the base of your eyes. Over months of consistent rowing, this upward pressure forces the orbital floor to thicken and move forward. This is the secret to that "deep-set," hooded eye look. Youre literally pushing the bone up to support the eye killing that "bug-eye" or "tired" look that comes with midface recession. If you feel the pressure under your eyes during the row, you’re hitting the goldmine. If you only feel it in your teeth, your form is dogshit. If you don't feel like your skull is a different shape after 3 months, you're low-effort or your form is trash. Don't come crying to me about your "GeNeTicS" if you can't even commit to a daily row.



THE F1 PROTOCOL (STOP ASKING FOR REPS)​

Stop asking "how long do I do it." Do you ask how long you need to breathe? This is a lifestyle shift. But if you need a map because you cantt think for yousrelf:

  • The Loading Phase (Weeks 1-4): 3 sets of 5 reps. 10 sec holds at 50% max force. You are "waking up" the sutures. Use the "Limo Start/Stop" method so you dont fry your CNS and end up as a vegetable.
  • The Remodeling Phase (Month 2-6): This is where you go full F1. 5 sets of 10 reps. 30 sec holds at 90-100% force. You should be using your legs for leverage.
  • The Consolidation Phase: 1-2 times a week just to maintain the tension while the new bone ossifies and hardens.



FINAL REALITY CHECK: THE ASCENSION IS ON YOU​

Most of you will bookmark this or not, "mirin" the effort or ''dnr'', and then go back to scrolling the "Rate Me" section while your maxilla continues its slow descent into subhumanity. That’s the difference between the guys who actually change their bone structure and the ones who just talk about it.

Don't come back in a week complaining that your teeth are sore. If your teeth are sore, you aren't biting hard enough or your towel is too thin. The towel is your shield the row is your sword. If you treat this like a joke, youl get joke results. But if you treat your skull like the plastic, adaptable biological machine it is, you will see a different person in the mirror by the end of the year.

Im done spoon feeding the "how-to." The archives are linked, the physics are explained, and the protocol is laid out. You have the "DohnsJohns" blueprints and the F1 mechanics. Whether you choose to stay recessed or evolve is entirely dependent on how much tension youre willing to put your sutures through.

Ill be gatekeeping the specific advanced "F1-Pro" variations from here on out. If you show me actual progress pics in 3 months, maybe I’ll share something. Until then, stop coping, start rowing and for the love of God, stop eating mush.


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