Message to all the Muslims regarding the incident of Charlie Kirk

[Ogionth]

Do not celebrate publicly the death of Charlie Kirk.

First of all, we all know that indeed since he supported the killing of children, it must be condemned and he will be in hellfire and won't be able to spread agenda against saving Palestinians.

Spoiler: Hadith

Abu Qatadah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, passed by a funeral and he said, “One is relieved and one is relieved from.” They said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is one relieved and one relieved from?” The Prophet said, “The believing servant is relieved from the hardships and harms of the world to the mercy of Allah. The wicked are those from whom are relieved the servants, lands, trees, and creatures.”

However, we Muslims are supposed to have good manners and keep a good reputation so that others could benefit from it.

And even in humanity, we should not be extremely happy that someone now has almost no chances (It's upto Allah) of going to heaven.

What will the non Muslims think when a true Muslim leader dies? Should we really be the same as them?

Putting mocking pictures etc, please refrain from it. Though it is permissible to be happy about his death (due to him being extremely evil towards palestinian children), but do not mock him and keep your manners so that people instead of being pushed away from Islam, come to us, being impressed by our behavior.

Spoiler: Hadith

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

 

[SoNotFunny]

JFL

 

[Bryce]

If you have to request that your people don't publicly mock the murder of another person, that says enough about Islam

 

[Swarthy Knight]

So will the Muzzies who are mocking him (and other kaffir deaths) also go to hell?

 

[Ogionth]

If you have to request that your people don't publicly mock the murder of another person, that says enough about Islam

How is it about Islam and not more about "some'" muslims?

And it's not just muslims anyway, I think, almost everyone right now is doing it.

 

[Ogionth]

So will the Muzzies who are mocking him (and other kaffir deaths) also go to hell?

No because mockery of an evil dead person is not enough of a sin to make someone deserving of hell.

Charlie Kirk won't go to hell because of that (Unless Allah wishes otherwise) but because of his disbelief

 

[Bryce]

alkost everyone right now is doing it.

"Everyone" being Twitter troons and Muslims lol

 

[Ogionth]

"Everyone" being Twitter troons and Muslims lol

On instagram etc, it's everyone, even some christians.

You didn't address my first point.

How is it about Islam?

 

[Swarthy Knight]

If you have to request that your people don't publicly mock the murder of another person, that says enough about Islam

Even this post is low ley backhanded. He's not telling his people to not mock others' death out of "goodness". He's doing it in attempts to save his religion's image and hopefully bring others to his cult jfl. These niggas are self serving asf even when they're trying to be "moral"

 

[Ogionth]

Even this post is low ley backhanded. He's not telling his people to not mock others' death out of "goodness". He's doing it in attempts to save his religion's image and hopefully bring others to his cult jfl. These niggas are self serving asf even when they're trying to be "moral"

Do you realise that it doesn't help the religion when you oppose what everyone's doing (making a mockery of him)

Your logic is so fallible, I almost chuckled to my myself seeing such an embarrassing argument

 

[SplashJuice]

Do not celebrate publicly the death of Charlie Kirk.

First of all, we all know that indeed since he supported the killing of children, it must be condemned and he will be in hellfire and won't be able to spread agenda against saving Palestinians.

Spoiler: Hadith

Abu Qatadah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, passed by a funeral and he said, “One is relieved and one is relieved from.” They said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is one relieved and one relieved from?” The Prophet said, “The believing servant is relieved from the hardships and harms of the world to the mercy of Allah. The wicked are those from whom are relieved the servants, lands, trees, and creatures.”

However, we Muslims are supposed to have good manners and keep a good reputation so that others could benefit from it.

And even in humanity, we should not be happy that someone now has almost no chances (It's upto Allah) of going to heaven.

What will the non Muslims think when a true Muslim leader dies? Should we really be the same as them?

Putting mocking pictures etc, please refrain from it. Though it is permissible to be happy about his death, but do not mock him and keep your manners so that people instead of being pushed away from Islam, come to us, being impressed by our behavior.

Who cares what the kaffirs think

 

[Bryce]

even some christians.

In no world LMAO have not seen a single REAL Christian mock this, in fact most Christians are posting videos of themselves crying over it which I think is pathetic but yeah Christians are not

How is it about Islam?

Islam itself is a religion of violence, and if Muslims are mocking the murder of another human that only solidifies it further. It's literally all of them btw not just a small portion

 

[Ogionth]

Who cares what the kaffirs think

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

 

[Ogionth]

In no world LMAO have not seen a single REAL Christian mock this, in fact most Christians are posting videos of themselves crying over it which I think is pathetic but yeah Christians are not

No true scotsman bro

There are many chrisitians that condemn the deaths of kids done by Israel in Gaza.

Islam itself is a religion of violence, and if Muslims are mocking the murder of another human that only solidifies it further. It's literally all of them btw not just a small portion

It's not, most of them who actually know are not making a mockery of it, they might rejoice due to the fact that Charlie supported the heinous deaths of kids and he won't be able to do such, anymore

Refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about.

Islam ≠ Muslims, get your terminology right

Thanks!

 

[SplashJuice]

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

Agreed it's unprincipled (Muslim or not), but you mentioned what they will think of Muslims too in your post but perception only matters as far power goes

 

[Ogionth]

Agreed it's unprincipled (Muslim or not), but you mentioned what they will think of Muslims too in your post but perception only matters as far power goes

No. I mentioned that as a secondary point, and it's still relevant, Allah has told us in the Quran to argue regarding religion in the best manner possible,

Will you also say to that verse that that "who cares what the kuffar think of my argument, im gonna argue in the worst manner"?


What about the many people during the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) life that became muslim being impressed by his manners?

 

[SplashJuice]

No. I mentioned that as a secondary point, and it's still relevant, Allah has told us in the Quran to argue regarding religion in the best manner possible,

Only because Islam was a fringe movement in the beginning so that was the strategy at the beginning, the playbook is different now in a larger world, even in Christian texts the early Christians had fringe strategies like forgive everyone and engage preaching to sinners, but we know this was a neutralising strategy since they were in a dangerous environment they had to adopt these tactics, context matters.

Will you also say to that verse that that "who cares what the kuffar think of my argument, im gonna argue in the worst manner"?

That's the worst way to get people to listen if that's your end goal, most Islamic conversions were done by cultural absorption or trade not missionary efforts. If you want people to convert then attain power, saying less and doing more is better, don't waste words on kaffirs that already hate you

 

[Ogionth]

Only because Islam was a fringe movement in the beginning so that was the strategy at the beginning, the playbook is different now in a larger world, even in Christian texts the early Christians had fringe strategies like forgive everyone and engage preaching to sinners, but we know this was a neutralising strategy since they were in a dangerous environment they had to adopt these tactics, context matters.

That's the worst way to get people to listen if that's your end goal, most Islamic conversions were done by cultural absorption or trade not missionary efforts. If you want people to convert then attain power, saying less and doing more is better, don't waste words on kaffirs that already hate you

Unfortunately, for you, the Quran disagrees with you.

These rulings are not just for when Islam was weak. All scholars agree. This ruling has not been abrogated.

If you're arguing using your own interpretations then you should know that this is not permissible.

 

[dududutchy123]

Do not celebrate publicly the death of Charlie Kirk.

First of all, we all know that indeed since he supported the killing of children, it must be condemned and he will be in hellfire and won't be able to spread agenda against saving Palestinians.

Spoiler: Hadith

Abu Qatadah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, passed by a funeral and he said, “One is relieved and one is relieved from.” They said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is one relieved and one relieved from?” The Prophet said, “The believing servant is relieved from the hardships and harms of the world to the mercy of Allah. The wicked are those from whom are relieved the servants, lands, trees, and creatures.”

However, we Muslims are supposed to have good manners and keep a good reputation so that others could benefit from it.

And even in humanity, we should not be extremely happy that someone now has almost no chances (It's upto Allah) of going to heaven.

What will the non Muslims think when a true Muslim leader dies? Should we really be the same as them?

Putting mocking pictures etc, please refrain from it. Though it is permissible to be happy about his death (due to him being extremely evil towards palestinian children), but do not mock him and keep your manners so that people instead of being pushed away from Islam, come to us, being impressed by our behavior.

Spoiler: Hadith

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

I’m only half sand nigger and I’m not Muslim but I celebrated his death today.

This is good news for all sand niggers. Why are you only including muzzies

 

[SplashJuice]

Unfortunately, for you, the Quran disagrees with you.

These rulings are not just for when Islam was weak. All scholars agree. This ruling has not been abrogated.

If you're arguing using your own interpretations then you should know that this is not permissible.

I don't view the Islamic texts like how scholars do so there isn't much of a debate here, but I respect your argument.

 

[Ogionth]

I don't view the Islamic texts like how scholars do so there isn't much of a debate here, but I respect your argument.

Well, then that's not really an appropriate way.

No Muslim thinks that this ruling was abrogated, denying the Quran = disbelief

 

[Ogionth]

I’m only half sand nigger and I’m not Muslim but I celebrated his death today.

This is good news for all sand niggers. Why are you only including muzzies

Neither celebrate, nor mourn.

That is the better way.

His children hopefully go through this well.

 

[looksmaxxed]

practice good taqiyya, otherwise some 250lb good ole boy might make you regret stepping foot on his homeland

 

[Ogionth]

practice good taqiyya, otherwise some 250lb good ole boy might make you regret stepping foot on his homeland

you sure the dildo isn't up your arse?

 

[forsearches]

Do not celebrate publicly the death of Charlie Kirk.

First of all, we all know that indeed since he supported the killing of children, it must be condemned and he will be in hellfire and won't be able to spread agenda against saving Palestinians.

Spoiler: Hadith

Abu Qatadah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, passed by a funeral and he said, “One is relieved and one is relieved from.” They said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is one relieved and one relieved from?” The Prophet said, “The believing servant is relieved from the hardships and harms of the world to the mercy of Allah. The wicked are those from whom are relieved the servants, lands, trees, and creatures.”

However, we Muslims are supposed to have good manners and keep a good reputation so that others could benefit from it.

And even in humanity, we should not be extremely happy that someone now has almost no chances (It's upto Allah) of going to heaven.

What will the non Muslims think when a true Muslim leader dies? Should we really be the same as them?

Putting mocking pictures etc, please refrain from it. Though it is permissible to be happy about his death (due to him being extremely evil towards palestinian children), but do not mock him and keep your manners so that people instead of being pushed away from Islam, come to us, being impressed by our behavior.

Spoiler: Hadith

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

 

[yex]

Islam is literally all about Killing and teror, do you really think your white ass is going to change their minds they are the ones that killed him

 

[Ogionth]

Islam is literally all about Killing and teror,

Wrong

do you really think your white ass is going to change their minds they are the ones that killed him

I'm Muslim, and I gave them advice from Islamic sources itself.

Not my fault that you're intellectually disabled.

 

[TheAncientMacedonia]

muslims will go to hell
nobody likes u
faggots

 

[YourTrueCaptain]

If you have to request that your people don't publicly mock the murder of another person, that says enough about Islam

This can be said for 99.98% of communities btw

 

[yex]

Wrong

ISIS execution video

@high_ltn @EthiopianMaxxer @FaceandBBC @h4pacel @Ghoulish

looksmax.org

 

[Ogionth]

ISIS execution video

@high_ltn @EthiopianMaxxer @FaceandBBC @h4pacel @Ghoulish

looksmax.org

ISIS have been takfired (considered disbelievers) by the overwhelming majority of scholars.

You just proved my point that you're intellectually disabled.

 

[Ogionth]

muslims will go to hell

nobody likes u

faggots

Same guy that was begging a woman to be her slave

 

[Noesis]

Highest IQ I've seen today may Allah bless you

 

[yex]

ISIS have been takfired (considered disbelievers) by the overwhelming majority of scholars.

The Nova Party Massacre | Hamas Massacre

www.hamas-massacre.net

Religion of peace and love

Telegram Web

Telegram is a cloud-based mobile and desktop messaging app with a focus on security and speed.

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Most peaceful people on earth!!

You're just intellectually disabled bruvv!!! my meaningless texts are going to prove my point!!!!

 

[kasrkin]

god isn't real and that's that

 

[Ghoulish]

If you have to request that your people don't publicly mock the murder of another person, that says enough about Islam

If some nigga advocated for Christians/whites to be slaughtered, would you not mock his death? People here already mock Jews and blacks deaths, so whats so wrong about a guy who hoped more children would be killed?
And it goes against Islamic teachings, like what the entire post is about. Youre either retarded or a Jewish scumbag.

niggas like you are actual living ragebaits @Jagged0 @Gengar

 

[davidlaidisme67]

Do not celebrate publicly the death of Charlie Kirk.

First of all, we all know that indeed since he supported the killing of children, it must be condemned and he will be in hellfire and won't be able to spread agenda against saving Palestinians.

Spoiler: Hadith

Abu Qatadah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, passed by a funeral and he said, “One is relieved and one is relieved from.” They said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is one relieved and one relieved from?” The Prophet said, “The believing servant is relieved from the hardships and harms of the world to the mercy of Allah. The wicked are those from whom are relieved the servants, lands, trees, and creatures.”

However, we Muslims are supposed to have good manners and keep a good reputation so that others could benefit from it.

And even in humanity, we should not be extremely happy that someone now has almost no chances (It's upto Allah) of going to heaven.

What will the non Muslims think when a true Muslim leader dies? Should we really be the same as them?

Putting mocking pictures etc, please refrain from it. Though it is permissible to be happy about his death (due to him being extremely evil towards palestinian children), but do not mock him and keep your manners so that people instead of being pushed away from Islam, come to us, being impressed by our behavior.

Spoiler: Hadith

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

Ameen

 

[Ghoulish]

Islam is literally all about Killing and teror, do you really think your white ass is going to change their minds they are the ones that killed him

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

Guess whether this is a quranic verse or a biblical verse.

 

[yex]

ISIS have been takfired (considered disbelievers) by the overwhelming majority of scholars.

Almost all muslims believe in some sort of jihadi principles. It's just the turth

 

[Ogionth]

The Nova Party Massacre | Hamas Massacre

www.hamas-massacre.net

Religion of peace and love

Telegram Web

Telegram is a cloud-based mobile and desktop messaging app with a focus on security and speed.

web.telegram.org

Most peaceful people on earth!!

You're just intellectually disabled bruvv!!! my meaningless texts are going to prove my point!!!!

Killing non combatants civilians is not allowed in Islam during war and if done, we condemn it.

You are yet to provide an actual argument btw.

 

[Ogionth]

Almost all muslims believe in some sort of jihadi principles. It's just the turth

Except that you're completely unaware of the principles of Jihad.

Why are you acting like you know anything when you are such an ignorant?

 

[yex]

Killing non combatants civilians is not allowed in Islam during war and if done, we condemn it.

Yet none of the islamic world have condemned and it's already been 2 years Which literally just proves my point

 

[Noesis]

Almost all muslims believe in some sort of jihadi principles. It's just the turth

You do know this is only permissible in countries without peace treaties right? 90% of countries have peace treaties with eachother. Stop ridiculing yourself with your ignorance.

Muh Muslims this muh Muslims that if you have a problem with the religion only then can someone respect it as a legitimate opinion for discussion otherwise you're just trying to ragebait like 5 year old you won't change anyone's mind this way

 

[Ogionth]

god isn't real and that's that

Who?

 

[Ogionth]

Yet none of the islamic world have condemned and it's already been 2 years Which literally just proves my point

Lol, it's literally in the text

Are you fucking dumb?

First, you sent a video of ISIS, upon refutation, you say buzzwords like *jihadi principles* yet are unaware of any of them, you switched to something else, upon refutation, you say that Muslims didn't do so and so like nigga? are you fucking stupid?

 

[Gengar]

Do not celebrate publicly the death of Charlie Kirk.

First of all, we all know that indeed since he supported the killing of children, it must be condemned and he will be in hellfire and won't be able to spread agenda against saving Palestinians.

Spoiler: Hadith

Abu Qatadah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, passed by a funeral and he said, “One is relieved and one is relieved from.” They said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is one relieved and one relieved from?” The Prophet said, “The believing servant is relieved from the hardships and harms of the world to the mercy of Allah. The wicked are those from whom are relieved the servants, lands, trees, and creatures.”

However, we Muslims are supposed to have good manners and keep a good reputation so that others could benefit from it.

And even in humanity, we should not be extremely happy that someone now has almost no chances (It's upto Allah) of going to heaven.

What will the non Muslims think when a true Muslim leader dies? Should we really be the same as them?

Putting mocking pictures etc, please refrain from it. Though it is permissible to be happy about his death (due to him being extremely evil towards palestinian children), but do not mock him and keep your manners so that people instead of being pushed away from Islam, come to us, being impressed by our behavior.

Spoiler: Hadith

Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "Do not abuse the dead and thus harm the living."

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1982

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Imam al-San'ani commented, "The prohibition of insulting the dead is general, including unbelievers or others."

Source: Subul al-Salām Sharh Bulūgh al-Marām 4/677

I already know celebrating somebody’s death goes against Islam which is why I don’t celebrate it.

But that doesn’t mean we as Islamic people are supposed to sympathize with whoever dies. It’s perfectly natural not to sympathize with those who hate us and our way of life.

 

[Gengar]

How is it about Islam and not more about "some'" muslims?

And it's not just muslims anyway, I think, almost everyone right now is doing it.

Precisely. Islamophobic cucks always hate on Islam rather than muzzies. For me it’s the other way around TBH.

 

[Gengar]

If some nigga advocated for Christians/whites to be slaughtered, would you not mock his death? People here already mock Jews and blacks deaths, so whats so wrong about a guy who hoped more children would be killed?
And it goes against Islamic teachings, like what the entire post is about. Youre either retarded or a Jewish scumbag.

niggas like you are actual living ragebaits @Jagged0 @Gengar

Low iq Islamophobic cucks blaming Islam and not muzzies.

 

[Ogionth]

I already know celebrating somebody’s death goes against Islam which is why I don’t celebrate it.

But that doesn’t mean we as Islamic people are supposed to sympathize with whoever dies. It’s perfectly natural not to sympathize with those who hate us and our way of life.

Exactly which is why I stated in the replies

"Neither celebrate, nor mourn" This is the best way.

 

[Gengar]

Exactly which is why I stated in the replies

"Neither celebrate, nor mourn" This is the best way.

Well said.