Mid-tier or potential chadlite? Seeking honesty.

[AlFa36]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

 

[CD34]

More like mtn potential lmao. There is like 1 in a billion chadlite with that pheno lmao

 

[gangiewangie]

actual fucking jumpscare

 

[tit]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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Suck your cheeks in more, we can't tell.

 

[sandro]

Chadlite in north sentinel island

 

[zemult]

I'm sorry man, but you're LTN-capped due to that eye area.

Where does my eye area stand? Seeking improvement advice

My main concerns are: Asymmetry between eyes, especially in canthal tilt Neutral to negative canthal tilt, more/less noticeable in certain angles Outer lower eyelids not hugging the eyes—they feel droopy or unsupported Droopiness, particularly on one side (thanks to congenital ptosis!) Do note...

looksmax.org

 

[maxlooksmax]

egocel

not even about eye area it is just you as a whole , don't listen to these mfs saying its just your eye area ruining you or vinnie hacker would be ugly jfl

 

[AlFa36]

Suck your cheeks in more, we can't tell.

Not sucking them in. Fat deposits on my face are weird. (Chiselled jaw at 30% bf, etc) Hoping rest of face catches up by 10%.

 

[AlFa36]

egocel

not even about eye area it is just you as a whole , don't listen to these mfs saying its just your eye area ruining you or vinnie hacker would be ugly jfl

Elaborate?

 

[maxlooksmax]

Elaborate?

your jaw is practically the same size as your chin

your jaw frontal angle is awful

your fwhr aswell

seems like 99% of your ratios are skewed - brad pittmaxx and chew

 

[gio927]

ramirez if he was born in mumbai

 

[playxiing]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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richard ramanesh

 

[gangiewangie]

actual fucking jumpscare

nvm, its fine you look decent. follow max's advice you'll look better

 

[AlFa36]

I'm sorry man, but you're LTN-capped due to that eye area.

Where does my eye area stand? Seeking improvement advice

My main concerns are: Asymmetry between eyes, especially in canthal tilt Neutral to negative canthal tilt, more/less noticeable in certain angles Outer lower eyelids not hugging the eyes—they feel droopy or unsupported Droopiness, particularly on one side (thanks to congenital ptosis!) Do note...

looksmax.org

Objectively speaking, I can see my eye area being bad enough to drag down my rating by that much.

It's not an ego thing, but my irl experiences don't really seem to align with those of a LTN. So, honestly and respectfully, I'm logically unable to see it as a fair rating.

I have been told that I look a lot better irl than photos, so perhaps the shitty eyes are not so obvious in person.

 

[CD34]

Objectively speaking, I can see my eye area being bad enough to drag down my rating by that much.

It's not an ego thing, but my irl experiences don't really seem to align with those of a LTN. So, honestly and respectfully, I'm logically unable to see it as a fair rating.

I have been told that I look a lot better irl than photos, so perhaps the shitty eyes are not so obvious in person.

that also depends on how tall you are and what girls you've dated (multiple cumshots, ltbs, ethnic, low class etc)... sorry but you're stuck in the ltn jail bro, it doesn't mean you can't be happy or fuck or get married, but you can't come with the arrogance to demand a chadlite rating. I’ll reiterate that the biggest fail is the pheno

 

[Bergo]

ur chadlite already bro

 

[AlFa36]

that also depends on how tall you are and what girls you've dated (multiple cumshots, ltbs, ethnic, low class etc)... sorry but you're stuck in the ltn jail bro, it doesn't mean you can't be happy or fuck or get married, but you can't come with the arrogance to demand a chadlite rating. I’ll reiterate that the biggest fail is the pheno

Average height. But appreciate the honesty.

 

[AlFa36]

Also must emphasise I wasn't demanding a chadlite rating, just whether it it attainable.

 

[zemult]

egocel

not even about eye area it is just you as a whole , don't listen to these mfs saying its just your eye area ruining you or vinnie hacker would be ugly jfl

"not even about eye area"

 

[zemult]

meanwhile vinnie hacker:

 

[zemult]

but yes, he has more problems than his eyes, it's just his eye area is truecel level

 

[CD34]

Also must emphasise I wasn't demanding a chadlite rating, just whether it it attainable.

With hardmaxx i think everything is attainable, nust need a lot of money. I think if you hadn't mentioned the chadlite thing the rates would have been kinder. you're average, chadlite is 1% of the population

 

[CD34]

meanwhile vinnie hacker:

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Vinnie hacker has averageness to the roof , typical pretty boy textbook look + 1 in a million maxilla and ogee line + other striking ratios as philtrum-lip-nose zone, forward growth gonial angle ecc… the only flaws are uee and nct but he still carried by pfl

 

[zemult]

also @maxlooksmax saying "just to chew" is genuinely harmful advice and will do nothing but waste this guy's time and possibly cause him to develop TMJ issues down the road.

he is going to need jaw surgery. it is clear that he suffers from downgrowth of the jaws considering his gonial angle.

zygo / jaw angle implants will be needed to properly widen the face and correct ramus length.

these are only a few examples, and don't gaslight this guy about his eye area. it is his biggest flaw by far, nearly truecel eye area

 

[AlFa36]

that also depends on how tall you are and what girls you've dated (multiple cumshots, ltbs, ethnic, low class etc)... sorry but you're stuck in the ltn jail bro, it doesn't mean you can't be happy or fuck or get married, but you can't come with the arrogance to demand a chadlite rating. I’ll reiterate that the biggest fail is the pheno

Also, elaborate on the pheno please? Is there something wrong with the appearance my phenotype entails for my face, or is it something inherent with the phenotype itself (social perception, etc).

 

[killer/tpu]

Serial rapist look

 

[zslqam]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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Chad

 

[thebestasianmoggere]

With hardmaxx i think everything is attainable, nust need a lot of money. I think if you hadn't mentioned the chadlite thing the rates would have been kinder. you're average, chadlite is 1% of the population

isn't HTN 1% of the population?

 

[AlFa36]

Serial rapist look

Sounds more like a projection of your own biases. Never had anyone in real life suggest anything close to that.

 

[sandro]

You probably appeal to girls that do horse tranquilizer!
Modeling potential, if you were like 188 (6'2) but I can tell that you're shorter than 5'10
But still, you got a look , I can say that...

 

[AlFa36]

You probably appeal to girls that do horse tranquilizer!
Modeling potential, if you were like 188 (6'2) but I can tell that you're shorter than 5'10
But still, you got a look , I can say that...

Bold claims, and what's with the genuine scorn?. I’m 5'10", but I’ll take the backhanded compliment.

 

[sandro]

Bold claims, and what's with the genuine scorn?. I’m 5'10", but I’ll take the backhanded compliment.

That is probably the nicest reply in this thread
That you appeal to alternative girls that like to rave and do ket
Be thankful

 

[White_Bwoi]

isn't HTN 1% of the population?

Bois you're too dramatic... HTN is way more common, I rate most tall 6'1-6'3 with not big falios, good hair, decent eye area HTN.. It's more like 5-10%, real mogging chads are maybe 0,1% or less - chadlite - idk it's higher, I'm not that strict tho, but MTN is for me average guy - not to much sex appeal, just for settling to women

 

[LastTemp2]

idek what to say

you look unique

 

[AlFa36]

That is probably the nicest reply in this thread
That you appeal to alternative girls that like to rave and do ket
Be thankful

I mean, hard to tell what's grounded in reality here and what's just incel disdain. So I’m not really holding most replies heavily enough to feel like thanking someone for a backhanded compliment.

 

[CookieGuy]

meanwhile vinnie hacker:

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My eye area looks like his

 

[zemult]

My eye area looks like his

vinnie's eye area isn't even that bad, it's like average range

 

[CookieGuy]

vinnie's eye area isn't even that bad, it's like average range

Thank god

 

[thebestasianmoggere]

this guy's more chopped than me

 

[AlFa36]

Looks did change a lot apparently.

 

[AlFa36]

I am not the leanest in that photo, but I'm not a caricature nor do I look batshit. This thread has been a wakeup call.

Looks did change a lot apparently.

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[valcovax]

Looks did change a lot apparently.

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I don’t know, I agree with everyone, eye area is a big failo, but you have some decent or very good other parts to your face. they kind of like clash with eachother so it makes you look unique but I can’t really tell if it’s in a good or bad way jfl, I agree with person talking about jaw implants, and DEFINITELY do serious research into surgeries that could help ur eye area, if that looks even 30-40% better ur life should be much improved

 

[Adam Kosyakov]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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I hate to break it to you, but you look kind of creepy. Like a monster. Bro, appeal is the law

 

[Bryce]

Just gonna echo the other responses and say you're definitely capped at LTN with that skull. Sorry bhai

 

[Adam Kosyakov]

Looks did change a lot apparently.

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You know, maybe I'm stupid, though. Judging by this photo

 

[Bryce]

I hate to break it to you, but you look kind of creepy. Like a monster. Bro, appeal is the law

Harmony is law but yeah

 

[Adam Kosyakov]

Harmony is law but yeah

Appeak = harmony i mean

 

[Bryce]

Appeak = harmony i mean

Harmony = appeal bhai

 

[AlFa36]

Correct me if I'm wrong but some of my jaw/skull shenanigans seem concealable through certain haircuts. Subtly using hair and layers to change the contours of my face.

 

[redfacccee]

your scleral show makes you look like a drug addict