Mid-tier or potential chadlite? Seeking honesty.

don't wanna come off mean or anything but if im being honest, ur like low ltn or subhuman tier. I think u could maybe reach htn but it'd require being fully softmaxxed with quite a bit of hardmaxxing too. Cl+ is a stretch tbh u should be happy with ascending to mtn or htn

ig u can lean down a bit more but realistically, ur gonna need trimax (mandible and chin look recessed), both supraorbital and infraorbital implants to fix ur uee and scleral show, and probably some jaw filler/implants (depends on how much ur recessed mandible contributes to ur steep jaw). the silver lining in ur case is that u just have two really big flaws
Yes, OP's orbitals are death tier. He's also downgrown and ethnic.
also @maxlooksmax saying "just to chew" is genuinely harmful advice and will do nothing but waste this guy's time and possibly cause him to develop TMJ issues down the road.

he is going to need jaw surgery. it is clear that he suffers from downgrowth of the jaws considering his gonial angle.

zygo / jaw angle implants will be needed to properly widen the face and correct ramus length.

these are only a few examples, and don't gaslight this guy about his eye area. it is his biggest flaw by far, nearly truecel eye area

Hi, and genuine query. Eyes will 100% get fixed, but conflicted about the "recessed mandible", and if it really is as detrimental as people here insist.

My chin is not sinking into my skull, and it's clear my jaw is very strong, people aren't as scrutinous irl about angles, etc, unless genuine malformations.

For reference, Jim Morrison is considered a very attractive man. Comparing side-by-side, his chin projection is nearly identical to mine, but it doesn't destroy his aesthetic.

I understand harmony, etc, matter. But refer to the sunglasses photo, I genuinely do not look as wonky and malformed with my eyes hidden (current shitty skin is also contributing to that).

Is my mandible really bad enough to warrant surgery?
 
don't wanna come off mean or anything but if im being honest, ur like low ltn or subhuman tier. I think u could maybe reach htn but it'd require being fully softmaxxed with quite a bit of hardmaxxing too. Cl+ is a stretch tbh u should be happy with ascending to mtn or htn

ig u can lean down a bit more but realistically, ur gonna need trimax (mandible and chin look recessed), both supraorbital and infraorbital implants to fix ur uee and scleral show, and probably some jaw filler/implants (depends on how much ur recessed mandible contributes to ur steep jaw). the silver lining in ur case is that u just have two really big flaws

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And are supraorbital implants really the right move here aesthetically and functionally speaking; I consciously raise my saggy brows all of the time to see better (exacerbates my migraines), and to not look even more like a demon.

Might push me even further into ogre territory.
 

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Everybody in this thread go rate me i need help
 
Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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Ur eyes nerf u lowkey or else jaw nose and overall facial features are decent
 
Ur eyes nerf u lowkey or else jaw nose and overall facial features are decent
Yeah, hence the unwarranted brutality of responses ig.

A genuine subhuman/LTN wouldn't instantly level up with sunglasses.

And they're honestly not that big of a nerf irl. Asymmetery is invisible, and people notice facial structure. I can also squint, or wear glasses.

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Last photo to scare some more mfs.
 
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Everybody in this thread go rate me i need help
This thread is literally a testament to why you shouldn't ask these incels for ratings lmfao, and you're asking it here
 
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This thread is literally a testament to why you shouldn't ask these incels for ratings lmfao, and you're asking it here
Yeahvi know there a lot of just weird autitic people here but some are actually really knowledgeble
 
Ur eyes nerf u lowkey or else jaw nose and overall facial features are decent
if you could somehow fix your eye area man... youd be in an amazing spot, all the best on your journey
I found another band-aid for my crappy eyes. Recently I had Botox for my migraine, so I genuinely struggle to raise my brows (eyes look more hooded, UEE reduced naturally). 1st image is my neutral expression.

Pair that with lower eyelid squinting, and suddenly it doesn't look like a deformity (will still need to work on not looking like a rapist). Thoughts?

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I found another band-aid for my crappy eyes. Recently I had Botox for my migraine, so I genuinely struggle to raise my brows (eyes look more hooded, UEE reduced naturally). 1st image is my neutral expression.

Pair that with lower eyelid squinting, and suddenly it doesn't look like a deformity (will still need to work on not looking like a rapist). Thoughts?

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Looks better, close but no cigar, but it's a gamechanger regardless
 
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I found another band-aid for my crappy eyes. Recently I had Botox for my migraine, so I genuinely struggle to raise my brows (eyes look more hooded, UEE reduced naturally). 1st image is my neutral expression.

Pair that with lower eyelid squinting, and suddenly it doesn't look like a deformity (will still need to work on not looking like a rapist). Thoughts?

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I do not need to raise my brows as I am in the second image to get the UEE to close btw lol, I just happened to have this one that shows it.
 
Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

View attachment 3691405View attachment 3691408View attachment 3691417View attachment 3691413View attachment 3691416View attachment 3691406

Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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you have a chance don't blow it
 

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