Mid-tier or potential chadlite? Seeking honesty.

[esrgan]

its the angle bro, mine arent acc that bad

its the angle that i'm talking about. Mine are nearly perpendicular.

But if they look much better irl, that's good

 

[AlFa36]

Ong that’s literally yeh!!!

 

[AlFa36]

Didn’t mean to attach those two

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Ong that’s literally yeh!!!

 

[BlobbyJelly]

And ngl I’d kill to look like this.

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that pic seems achievable bro, start seeking surgeons.

 

[zemult]

yeah but his eyes are only NCT.

He has crazy NCT and too much scleral shows. It gives him a scary appearance.

Yes, OP's orbitals are death tier. He's also downgrown and ethnic.

 

[flatcheck213]

Yes, OP's orbitals are death tier. He's also downgrown and ethnic.

 

[AlFa36]

Assuming you're not referencing the scleral show, what's wrong with the orbitals?

 

[AlFa36]

Yes, OP's orbitals are death tier. He's also downgrown and ethnic.

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[zemult]

Assuming you're not referencing the scleral show, what's wrong with the orbitals?

I'm assuming there's a lack of orbital bone support, causing the sclera show and upper eyelid exposure.

Obviously take what I said with a grain of salt, as we're only provided with pictures that include soft tissue, and not a skull scan.

 

[AlFa36]

I'm assuming there's a lack of orbital bone support, causing the sclera show and upper eyelid exposure.

Obviously take what I said with a grain of salt, as we're only provided with pictures that include soft tissue, and not a skull scan.

Right.

Yes, OP's orbitals are death tier. He's also downgrown and ethnic.

You really think people irl are revolted by anyone who's not white?

 

[new H150i]

Recharge themirrors

 

[zemult]

Right.

You really think people irl are revolted by anyone who's not white?

No, there's plenty of good-looking ethnics that pull. However we'd be ignorant to not recognize the pile of research showing the disadvantage ethnics have in dating.

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

chadlite
Dude you look like something I would expect to see if I stuck my head inside a fucking sewer

what chadlite features do you have?
hollow cheeks?
dude I’ve seen people who were 300lbs who effortlessly mogged you

 

[AlFa36]

chadlite
Dude you look like something I would expect to see if I stuck my head inside a fucking sewer

what chadlite features do you have?
hollow cheeks?
dude I’ve seen people who were 300lbs who effortlessly mogged you

Show.

 

[AlFa36]

chadlite
Dude you look like something I would expect to see if I stuck my head inside a fucking sewer

what chadlite features do you have?
hollow cheeks?
dude I’ve seen people who were 300lbs who effortlessly mogged you

Chadlites do get glanced/stared at by women all the time, no? This isn't a fabrication from my part, and if you can offer an alternative reason why they do it then go ahead.

If I was that repulsive, people of both genders would be staring at me, with disgusted expressions on their faces.

 

[Jelexy]

Are u serial killer? Or have u ever killed someone? I’m just curious

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

Chadlites do get glanced/stared at by women all the time, no? This isn't a fabrication from my part, and if you can offer an alternative reason why they do it then go ahead.

If I was that repulsive, people of both genders would be staring at me, with disgusted expressions on their faces.

you probably scare the shit out of every woman within a 10 mile radius, im not surprised they cant keep their eyes off you. they’re trying to find an escape route

 

[AlFa36]

Are u serial killer? Or have u ever killed someone? I’m just curious

No, just took some really shitty pictures.

Maybe having an intractable migraine for years does a similar thing to your face being a psychopath would.

And a little too dimorphic in some places maybe.

 

[AlFa36]

you probably scare the shit out of every woman within a 10 mile radius, im not surprised they cant keep their eyes off you. they’re trying to find an escape route

Aren't women scared of overweight, ugly, ogre-like guys as well?

They don't stare at them, in fact they'll go out of their way to avoid eye contact ASAP so they don't get raped.

 

[AlFa36]

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ngl my transformation over the last year has been uncannily similar to this dude's (i got uglier though).
how does that just happen.

 

[matteooo]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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youre rlly ugly

 

[AlFa36]

youre rlly ugly

Glad you could use my face as an outlet for your repressed bitterness

 

[matteooo]

Glad you could use my face as an outlet for your repressed bitterness

ure still rlly ugly

 

[AlFa36]

ure still rlly ugly

If it makes you feel better, fine, you can say it as many times as you like.

 

[castizo_ascender]

egocel

not even about eye area it is just you as a whole , don't listen to these mfs saying its just your eye area ruining you or vinnie hacker would be ugly jfl

there's obv more flaws than just his eye area but it's his biggest fs. his eye area is saint tier

 

[castizo_ascender]

don't wanna come off mean or anything but if im being honest, ur like low ltn or subhuman tier. I think u could maybe reach htn but it'd require being fully softmaxxed with quite a bit of hardmaxxing too. Cl+ is a stretch tbh u should be happy with ascending to mtn or htn

ig u can lean down a bit more but realistically, ur gonna need trimax (mandible and chin look recessed), both supraorbital and infraorbital implants to fix ur uee and scleral show, and probably some jaw filler/implants (depends on how much ur recessed mandible contributes to ur steep jaw). the silver lining in ur case is that u just have two really big flaws

 

[mitsuki6643]

max low MTN

 

[castizo_ascender]

that also depends on how tall you are and what girls you've dated (multiple cumshots, ltbs, ethnic, low class etc)... sorry but you're stuck in the ltn jail bro, it doesn't mean you can't be happy or fuck or get married, but you can't come with the arrogance to demand a chadlite rating. I’ll reiterate that the biggest fail is the pheno

honestly his pheno should be the least of his worries. plenty of htns with that pheno

it's his truecel orbitals and recessed + downgrown mandible. thankfully those flaws can be fixed with surgeries

 

[castizo_ascender]

also @maxlooksmax saying "just to chew" is genuinely harmful advice and will do nothing but waste this guy's time and possibly cause him to develop TMJ issues down the road.

he is going to need jaw surgery. it is clear that he suffers from downgrowth of the jaws considering his gonial angle.

zygo / jaw angle implants will be needed to properly widen the face and correct ramus length.

these are only a few examples, and don't gaslight this guy about his eye area. it is his biggest flaw by far, nearly truecel eye area

just curious could jaw surgery also lengthen his ramus? i've seen results from dr. raffaini where he managed to lengthen the ramus in several of his orthognathic surgery patients. he's gonna need bimax/trimax regardless but still

 

[zemult]

just curious could jaw surgery also lengthen his ramus? i've seen results from dr. raffaini where he managed to lengthen the ramus in several of his orthognathic surgery patients. he's gonna need bimax/trimax regardless but still

i'm not entirely sure, i do know that it's popular to get implants to resolve these problems after fixing the jaws

 

[AlFa36]

honestly his pheno should be the least of his worries. plenty of htns with that pheno

it's his truecel orbitals and recessed + downgrown mandible. thankfully those flaws can be fixed with surgeries

Can someone elaborate on what a downgrown jaw is, why is it so detrimental to appearance

 

[AlFa36]

Afaik people only pay attention to definition

 

[AlFa36]

max low MTN

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Ong that’s literally yeh!!!

Yeah definitely at the calibre of those LTNs, may even be uglier

 

[AlFa36]

don't wanna come off mean or anything but if im being honest, ur like low ltn or subhuman tier. I think u could maybe reach htn but it'd require being fully softmaxxed with quite a bit of hardmaxxing too

ig u can lean down a bit more but realistically, ur gonna need trimax (mandible and chin look recessed), both supraorbital and infraorbital implants to fix ur uee and scleral show, and probably some jaw filler/implants (depends on how much ur recessed mandible contributes to ur steep jaw). the silver lining in ur case is that u just have two really big flaws

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[Gs.]

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Brother you and 2025 chudjak look alike

 

[AlFa36]

So the consensus is I fit firmly into these categories (or lower)

Either you guys are deluded af, or I have a severe case of reverse body dysmorphia

 

[AlFa36]

Can someone elaborate on what a downgrown jaw is, why is it so detrimental to appearan

honestly his pheno should be the least of his worries. plenty of htns with that pheno

it's his truecel orbitals and recessed + downgrown mandible. thankfully those flaws can be fixed with surgeries

 

[AlFa36]

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[BlobbyJelly]

My sclera show does cause me physical discomfort. I often raise my eyebrows and squint to avoid irritation caused by air/wind entering my sockets, which worsens my chronic migraines.

May be able to fix this for free if NHS deems it enough of a functional issue. Otherwise, I’ll just rock sunglasses until I can afford private surgery.

So did you check with NHS bro? Anyways for your mental health, get off this site and actually look into making serious progress via surgery, once when that scleral show is fixed man you'll be in a much better spot. Eye area and jaw ARE MOST important.

There's nothing more the degenerates here can tell you or offer you here man... Besides teasing your ass to make themselves feel better about their miserable lives. Good luck dude, Cheers!

 

[AlFa36]

So did you check with NHS bro? Anyways for your mental health, get off this site and actually look into making serious progress via surgery, once when that scleral show is fixed man you'll be in a much better spot. Eye area and jaw ARE MOST important.

There's nothing more the degenerates here can tell you or offer you here man... Besides teasing your ass to make themselves feel better about their miserable lives. Good luck dude, Cheers!

I did, got referred to the ophthalmologist for ectropion. Will be a while before I get seen though.

In the meantime, never taking these off again

 

[AlFa36]

So did you check with NHS bro? Anyways for your mental health, get off this site and actually look into making serious progress via surgery, once when that scleral show is fixed man you'll be in a much better spot. Eye area and jaw ARE MOST important.

There's nothing more the degenerates here can tell you or offer you here man... Besides teasing your ass to make themselves feel better about their miserable lives. Good luck dude, Cheers!

Honestly they don’t seem to be teasing, most of these guys are deadpan serious about me being a LTN. I obviously am not taking that as an objective rating of my face (irl has assured I’m not time and time again).

Still makes me insecure that there are guys in the world who are so over-analytical they WILL see me as a genuine ogre.

 

[BlobbyJelly]

I did, got referred to the ophthalmologist for ectropion. Will be a while before I get seen though.

In the meantime, never taking these off again

roger that bro

 

[jeremyy]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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Are you okay Annie?

 

[Heightpilldealer]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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You kinda look like James start horrormaxxing

 

[hd82]

So the consensus is I fit firmly into these categories (or lower)
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Either you guys are deluded af, or I have a severe case of reverse body dysmorphia

This u bro

 

[jeremyy]

Damn, you also look pretty similar to Salvador Ramos. Same hair, skin, and eyes.

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin - which was fine until I started using oily hair products, and then Epiduo dried it out badly.

Been watching rating videos and reading threads, so I got curious - where do I stand now according to you guys, and after having fixed obvious flaws like my skin and getting very lean?

About 14% bf I think. Skin’s slowly improving. Hair’s a mess since I’m avoiding products until my acne clears. May get canthoplasty in future. Aside from that dunno what to fix.

Photos taken using the guide came out blurry af, so added selfies and candids too.

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Older photos:

Higher bf, but clear skin

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Slathering cream and oil onto my hair, wreaking havoc on skin:

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[soggra]

I did, got referred to the ophthalmologist for ectropion. Will be a while before I get seen though.

In the meantime, never taking these off again

You look good with sunglasses on bro

 

[soggra]

don't listen to these mfs saying its just your eye area ruining you or vinnie hacker would be ugly jfl

Definitely not true. He looks good here with sunglasses on

 

[eduardkoopman]

Honestly, my only real insecurities are my eyes (kind of crappy, but fraudable for now) and my skin

yeah, the eyes is a flaw. pointy-ish chin imo also (bettwe cover with facial hair).
You look like you could be 6'6" giant height.

 

[AlFa36]

Definitely not true. He looks good here with sunglasses on

Might explain the polarisation between irl and the ratings here tbf. I do wear sunglasses almost all of the time due to light sensitivity, hence the attention, which I won't (and likely don't) receive with them off.

When I was in my social heyday and still healthy, most of the sclera show was covered by my hair, nor did I have eyebags drawing attention to them, but it was there.

So yeah, maybe people don't like my actual face, just when I'm using my sunglasses as a masquerade.

Insane how much gravitas eye area has, but it is what it is.