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Anyone who has done 0 research on it will say this:
Some retards:
That's just 3, but go on pretty much any DNP thread, and you will see a tone more.
If you are not an idiot when running this compound, that isn't going to happen. Be sensible and you will get insane fat loss and health benefits.
I have personally run Clenbuterol, DNP, Semaglutide (which I still use), T3. I genuinely believe the people that have used DNP and do not recommend it, are either gatekeeping DNP or got bunk DNP.
Why use DNP when you have GLP-1 antagonists?
They do 2 completely different things, one reduces food noise, and cravings and reduces apatite (GLP-1 antagonist), and the other, (DNP) burns body fat off you, even if you eat 5k calories a day (I'll expand on that soon). So yes, you can drop body fat using GLP-1 antagonist, but I do not see why you would not use thermogenic to reduce your cutting time by several months. Instead of being in a long ass cut for 1 year, get it over within 3 months.
Why DNP in general?
What sides will I experience on the cycle:
The proper side effects people experience and how to avoid them (sides like yellow piss aren't a concern, DNP will stain anything bright yellow):
Don't follow this thread, buy DNP, and consume 1500mg at once, I hope you come back as chad in the next life.
If you follow this thread, none whatsoever only benefits to your health and life in general since lean is life. Even if you don't follow this thread, and take a dose of 200mg, you will reap fat loss benefits.
How DNP works
DNP disrupts the electron transport chain and causes an uninhibited exchange of protons. This exchange of protons is what is responsible for making ADP into ATP. NOTHING can stop the disruption of this process once it starts. DNP works systematically, it affects every single cell in the body. DNP gets into the cell and the mitochondria and causes proton release. DNP works no matter what, whether you have high or low T3, whether your hormones are fucked etc etc. DNP also has a 36-hour half-life, we will get to why that is important soon.
DNP metabolism/calorie-burning
Apart from the fact that with every 100mg ingested of DNP crystal, you get an 11% increase in metabolism, and with 100mg DNP powder, you get roughly a 15% increase in metabolism. This is from every 100mg ingested, not accumulated. As I mentioned above, DNP has a 36-hour half-life. Since DNP is dosed every 24 hours, or even less depending on dosage (I will get into DNP dosing later), it accumulates. This table shows how much DNP you will have in your system after a given number of days at a certain dosage of DNP:
The said, 11% - 15% increase in metabolism has been calculated when the DNP has reached full concentration. So after 5-6 days of 200mg DNP every 24hr, your metabolism will be raised by roughly 30%. If you did fuck all every day, and your maintenance is only 2k, you will burn an extra 600 kcals on top of that 2k, so if you ate at maintenance for a week with DNP, you would burn 4200 kcals, which is over half a kilo doing nothing. May not seem impressive, and may think I pulled 1lbs a day out of my ass. 200mg is the lowest dose that should be run, it isn't that strong and you may not even feel any sides. What makes DNP so good though is that it increases your TDEE, not just your BMR. For every kcal you would have normally burnt, you burn roughly 1.8cals on DNP. So it's like a 2x multiplier to everything you do, which is why it's so powerful. You can imagine the calorie deficit you can achieve, on 200mg, if you just get your daily steps or cardio in.
Will I keep my muscle mass on DNP?
Don't have to worry about your muscle mass. DNP is anti-proteolytic. This means that it uses only carbs and fats to supply energy to the mitochondria and does not facilitate muscle breakdown. This does not mean you are going to continue building muscle while you are running DNP. DNP puts your cells in overdrive essentially, they are not going to be looking to get larger which requires even more energy. Make sure to hit your protein like you normally would and continue training, never sacrifice intensity, only volume if anything. Training to failure isn't needed, leave some reps in the tank, especially if you are running high doses of 600mg+.
How should I dose DNP?
Dosing is simple. Simply don't be an idiot. 200mg will give results, 1lbs a day if you stick to roughly 2000kcals and do roughly 15k steps on the daily. 200mg is best in my opinion, you are going to negate all the sides mentioned above for the most part. You may not experience water retention, you may only feel slight heat etc etc.
You lazy mf, 400mg can be run safely also, and obviously, since your metabolism when using DNP powder is up by around 60%, less physical activity is needed. Simply don't eat like a pig, and you are on your way to lose 1lbs a day.
When dosing DNP, spread the dosages as far as possible. So for 200mg, take 200mg every 24 hours. Simple. 400mg, take 200mg every 12 hours (morning and night).
I would not recommend exceeding a dose of 600mg. I have done 800mg before, and at the moment I thought, if the DNP doesn't kill me, I will do it myself. This was also when 600mg DNP had fully accumulated in my body, making it feel a lot worse than if I took 800mg as a first dose, which I will explain now.
How the 36 hour half-life affects us
Since it has a 36-hour half-life, we know it accumulates in our body. This means that with 200mg as a first dose, you probably won't feel anything. No heat. No nothing. This is because you haven't reached peak concentration. Look at the accumulation graph above, and you will see when your dose of DNP will have fully accumulated in your body. Now because of this, you can front-load DNP. For example, when dosing 200mg DNP every day, on the first day, 400mg can be taken, as that is still less than the peak concentration of 200mg which is 540mg. You will reach peak concentration faster this way, and burn more fat.
Diet before and while using DNP
Before (prep) - Many recommend doing 3 days or so of carb depletion before starting DNP. It really does not matter. DNP will burn through glycogen first, so if you are carb-depleted, yes, instead of DNP having to burn through all your glycogen stores, it will start burning fat from the start. That being said, DNP will burn through your glycogen very quickly, so any fat not lost from the beginning, can easily be made up for at the end of the cycle by running it for an extra day if it really makes a difference to you. I do carb deplete since I already do a low carb diet, mainly consisting of eggs, beef, etc.
During - again during your cycle your diet doesn't really matter, it is up to you. Yes, you may have more energy with more carbs in your diet, so adjust according to how you feel. Yes, you will feel hotter after eating carbs, don't worry, and no you are not going to overheat, especially from 200-400mg a day, or even 600mg, as I've tested. Hit your protein intake, and the rest is really up to you. Many consider a diet equally split in protein, fats, and carbs (33/33/33) to be ideal. You can eat goysolp yes, just stay in your kcal intake for the day. Goyslop is counterproductive as it will leave you hungry as shit, so you will probably exceed your calorie intake. Better eat good nutritious satiating foods.
How long should I run DNP?
Doesn't matter. You don't become tolerant to DNP, it remains as effective as it always was, unlike shit like Clenbuterol. There is no set time to run a cycle. Many do 200mg until they reach their desired leanness level. In my opinion, this is the best approach. I would not recommend running for less than 2 weeks, since the first week is mostly where the DNP is accumulating. This means that ideally a cycle is run for 3-4 weeks.
How DNP improves health
When the fat burning from DNP starts, it starts with visceral fat. It removes all the fat surrounding your stomach, liver, and intestines. Obviously good since it reduces inflammation and improves organ function. DNP also helps reduce insulin resistance.
Support supplements while using DNP
Not too many supplements are needed just the basic NAC, Vitamin C. These are really the main 2. Whether they make much difference is debatable, but get them just in case. In my first cycle, I didn't supplement anything. When I run DNP now, I use CoQ10, Vitamin C, NAC, and Magnesium. Other antioxidants are also good like Vitamin E etc.
My first DNP experience
I have run 400mg - 600mg my first time, and once a dose of 800mg, and am very much alive, and I am not a big guy at all. To the people who say you must not eat carbs cos you will get too hot and die, that is certified BS. On 600mg, I had the most insane carb cravings and completely emptied all the fridge and cupboards of all food, all goyslop (Nutella, biscoff, pizza, etc etc). Yes, I was sweating, I got hot, but I didn't die and didn't feel like I was going to either, with the windows open. On top of that, I didn't gain fat, I still lost a few lbs. I would have lost a fuck tone more if I didn't binge the fuck out, yes, but these days were minimum of 5k kcals and still losing fat. This was on a higher dosage, but just shows the power DNP has. This shouldn't be how u run DNP though, it's totally counterproductive since your carb cravings and hunger are so high you can't really get the benefits of fat loss at its best in my opinion, they can even over power the GLP-1 antagonist apatite suppression.
How I run DNP now
I do a low dose of 200mg (and don't think because it is a low dose it is not effective. Most bodybuilders which are so much larger than me, run from 200-400mg also), along with 15k steps a day and roughly 2000cals which is easy cos of Semaglutide.
Other experiences:
When I was originally researching, here are (only some) of the results I have head of.
12lbs in 14 days he said (not 12 days) - he ran 250mg (low dose)
9 lbs in 5 days - he also ran 250mg (low dose) - 1800kcals roughly
looksmax.org
15lbs 2 weeks - 400mg doing fuck all
1 week 5lbs - probably ate like shit and did fuck all also tbh
looksmax.org
TL;DR - keep telling people you are going to die from using DNP, so there is more DNP for me
Some retards:
That's just 3, but go on pretty much any DNP thread, and you will see a tone more.
If you are not an idiot when running this compound, that isn't going to happen. Be sensible and you will get insane fat loss and health benefits.
I have personally run Clenbuterol, DNP, Semaglutide (which I still use), T3. I genuinely believe the people that have used DNP and do not recommend it, are either gatekeeping DNP or got bunk DNP.
Why use DNP when you have GLP-1 antagonists?
They do 2 completely different things, one reduces food noise, and cravings and reduces apatite (GLP-1 antagonist), and the other, (DNP) burns body fat off you, even if you eat 5k calories a day (I'll expand on that soon). So yes, you can drop body fat using GLP-1 antagonist, but I do not see why you would not use thermogenic to reduce your cutting time by several months. Instead of being in a long ass cut for 1 year, get it over within 3 months.
Why DNP in general?
- Drop rapid body fat
- Is a health max when done right
- Not going to tank your metabolism at all
What sides will I experience on the cycle:
The proper side effects people experience and how to avoid them (sides like yellow piss aren't a concern, DNP will stain anything bright yellow):
- heat/sweating - many people decide to run in winter, sleep with a fan, and keep hydrated
- water retention (this, from research, may only be at 400mg+ at a dose of 200mg or 250mg I don't think it happens, the water weight will drop within a week after the last dose anyway)
- lethargy - can use stims like caffeine or modafinil or changing diet (increasing carb intake)
- dehydration - stay hydrated with electrolytes, take V8
- carb cravings - not a problem at lower doses of DNP (200-400mg) can become a problem at higher doses, but can be combated again with modafinil and GLP-1 antagonist which both suppress apatite. Sema/Triz + DNP is pretty common for bodybuilders who use DNP.
- rash - anti-histamine can be taken, but they can be random meaning if you run a cycle, you may not get a rash, then run another cycle, and a rash may present.
- cramps - not a common side, if you are experiencing, increased electrolyte consumption will solve this
- Decreased strength - you are not losing muscle, don't worry, I will get into this below, but you are more tired, hot, and burning through your glycogen stores very very fast
- shitty looking physique - you would think you should be looking better from dropping bodyfat, but while on DNP, you are holding some water, and are completely depleted from glycogen, so your muscles aren't full at all.
Don't follow this thread, buy DNP, and consume 1500mg at once, I hope you come back as chad in the next life.
If you follow this thread, none whatsoever only benefits to your health and life in general since lean is life. Even if you don't follow this thread, and take a dose of 200mg, you will reap fat loss benefits.
How DNP works
DNP disrupts the electron transport chain and causes an uninhibited exchange of protons. This exchange of protons is what is responsible for making ADP into ATP. NOTHING can stop the disruption of this process once it starts. DNP works systematically, it affects every single cell in the body. DNP gets into the cell and the mitochondria and causes proton release. DNP works no matter what, whether you have high or low T3, whether your hormones are fucked etc etc. DNP also has a 36-hour half-life, we will get to why that is important soon.
DNP metabolism/calorie-burning
Apart from the fact that with every 100mg ingested of DNP crystal, you get an 11% increase in metabolism, and with 100mg DNP powder, you get roughly a 15% increase in metabolism. This is from every 100mg ingested, not accumulated. As I mentioned above, DNP has a 36-hour half-life. Since DNP is dosed every 24 hours, or even less depending on dosage (I will get into DNP dosing later), it accumulates. This table shows how much DNP you will have in your system after a given number of days at a certain dosage of DNP:
Will I keep my muscle mass on DNP?
Don't have to worry about your muscle mass. DNP is anti-proteolytic. This means that it uses only carbs and fats to supply energy to the mitochondria and does not facilitate muscle breakdown. This does not mean you are going to continue building muscle while you are running DNP. DNP puts your cells in overdrive essentially, they are not going to be looking to get larger which requires even more energy. Make sure to hit your protein like you normally would and continue training, never sacrifice intensity, only volume if anything. Training to failure isn't needed, leave some reps in the tank, especially if you are running high doses of 600mg+.
How should I dose DNP?
Dosing is simple. Simply don't be an idiot. 200mg will give results, 1lbs a day if you stick to roughly 2000kcals and do roughly 15k steps on the daily. 200mg is best in my opinion, you are going to negate all the sides mentioned above for the most part. You may not experience water retention, you may only feel slight heat etc etc.
You lazy mf, 400mg can be run safely also, and obviously, since your metabolism when using DNP powder is up by around 60%, less physical activity is needed. Simply don't eat like a pig, and you are on your way to lose 1lbs a day.
When dosing DNP, spread the dosages as far as possible. So for 200mg, take 200mg every 24 hours. Simple. 400mg, take 200mg every 12 hours (morning and night).
I would not recommend exceeding a dose of 600mg. I have done 800mg before, and at the moment I thought, if the DNP doesn't kill me, I will do it myself. This was also when 600mg DNP had fully accumulated in my body, making it feel a lot worse than if I took 800mg as a first dose, which I will explain now.
How the 36 hour half-life affects us
Since it has a 36-hour half-life, we know it accumulates in our body. This means that with 200mg as a first dose, you probably won't feel anything. No heat. No nothing. This is because you haven't reached peak concentration. Look at the accumulation graph above, and you will see when your dose of DNP will have fully accumulated in your body. Now because of this, you can front-load DNP. For example, when dosing 200mg DNP every day, on the first day, 400mg can be taken, as that is still less than the peak concentration of 200mg which is 540mg. You will reach peak concentration faster this way, and burn more fat.
Diet before and while using DNP
Before (prep) - Many recommend doing 3 days or so of carb depletion before starting DNP. It really does not matter. DNP will burn through glycogen first, so if you are carb-depleted, yes, instead of DNP having to burn through all your glycogen stores, it will start burning fat from the start. That being said, DNP will burn through your glycogen very quickly, so any fat not lost from the beginning, can easily be made up for at the end of the cycle by running it for an extra day if it really makes a difference to you. I do carb deplete since I already do a low carb diet, mainly consisting of eggs, beef, etc.
During - again during your cycle your diet doesn't really matter, it is up to you. Yes, you may have more energy with more carbs in your diet, so adjust according to how you feel. Yes, you will feel hotter after eating carbs, don't worry, and no you are not going to overheat, especially from 200-400mg a day, or even 600mg, as I've tested. Hit your protein intake, and the rest is really up to you. Many consider a diet equally split in protein, fats, and carbs (33/33/33) to be ideal. You can eat goysolp yes, just stay in your kcal intake for the day. Goyslop is counterproductive as it will leave you hungry as shit, so you will probably exceed your calorie intake. Better eat good nutritious satiating foods.
How long should I run DNP?
Doesn't matter. You don't become tolerant to DNP, it remains as effective as it always was, unlike shit like Clenbuterol. There is no set time to run a cycle. Many do 200mg until they reach their desired leanness level. In my opinion, this is the best approach. I would not recommend running for less than 2 weeks, since the first week is mostly where the DNP is accumulating. This means that ideally a cycle is run for 3-4 weeks.
How DNP improves health
When the fat burning from DNP starts, it starts with visceral fat. It removes all the fat surrounding your stomach, liver, and intestines. Obviously good since it reduces inflammation and improves organ function. DNP also helps reduce insulin resistance.
Support supplements while using DNP
Not too many supplements are needed just the basic NAC, Vitamin C. These are really the main 2. Whether they make much difference is debatable, but get them just in case. In my first cycle, I didn't supplement anything. When I run DNP now, I use CoQ10, Vitamin C, NAC, and Magnesium. Other antioxidants are also good like Vitamin E etc.
My first DNP experience
I have run 400mg - 600mg my first time, and once a dose of 800mg, and am very much alive, and I am not a big guy at all. To the people who say you must not eat carbs cos you will get too hot and die, that is certified BS. On 600mg, I had the most insane carb cravings and completely emptied all the fridge and cupboards of all food, all goyslop (Nutella, biscoff, pizza, etc etc). Yes, I was sweating, I got hot, but I didn't die and didn't feel like I was going to either, with the windows open. On top of that, I didn't gain fat, I still lost a few lbs. I would have lost a fuck tone more if I didn't binge the fuck out, yes, but these days were minimum of 5k kcals and still losing fat. This was on a higher dosage, but just shows the power DNP has. This shouldn't be how u run DNP though, it's totally counterproductive since your carb cravings and hunger are so high you can't really get the benefits of fat loss at its best in my opinion, they can even over power the GLP-1 antagonist apatite suppression.
when i reach my ideal leanness i will pop some DNP and enjoy goyslop all day, food tasted amazing with carb cravings so high
How I run DNP now
I do a low dose of 200mg (and don't think because it is a low dose it is not effective. Most bodybuilders which are so much larger than me, run from 200-400mg also), along with 15k steps a day and roughly 2000cals which is easy cos of Semaglutide.
Other experiences:
When I was originally researching, here are (only some) of the results I have head of.
12lbs in 14 days he said (not 12 days) - he ran 250mg (low dose)
9 lbs in 5 days - he also ran 250mg (low dose) - 1800kcals roughly
1 Week on DNP!
Today or yesterday marked my one week mark of starting to take DNP. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything or tell you this is some miracle pill but if you can deal with the side effects you will lose crazy body fat and LEAN down FAST. Dont judge for my weight lol, im working on it. Starting...
looksmax.org
15lbs 2 weeks - 400mg doing fuck all
1 week 5lbs - probably ate like shit and did fuck all also tbh
Weight loss methods that mog DNP?
DNP is legit and no sides but it’s too slow I do it and I only lose like 5 pound a week anything that can do more? Please don’t mention diet exercise or other cope on my thread!
looksmax.org
TL;DR - keep telling people you are going to die from using DNP, so there is more DNP for me
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