Most of you are better off at 15%BF than 10%BF

[Deleted member 16280]

Don’t get me wrong, leanmaxxing is crucial if you are overweight. But I’d venture to say that for most guys here, your issue is insufficient muscle mass, not excess bodyfat. The leaner you get the harder it becomes to gain and maintain a solid amount of muscle. “Water” you tell me…yet then why are so many autists on here trying to get down to sub 10% bodyfat when they have shit muscle? Take a look at this….

Bale looks around 14% here, Efron is probably 8%. Both are gonna be appealing, but at 14% bodyfat you will feel so much healthier, and you’ll be able to make great gains. These ripped guys you see online are usually on all sorts of PEDs, which are a looksmin in the long term, and/or they are psychologically miserable and have fucked up health. Ruining your whole life to get that body just so you can have a little more appeal to JBs is just stupid. Unless you have freak genetics that support it, in which case you’re a lucky bastard.

 

[Deleted member 51465]

Being 10% bf is stupid

 

[WhiteGoodman]

Realistically, you need 2/3 bulks and you'll have enough muslce mass to fit your frame and have a good physique. Then just maintain that at 12-14%.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Bale is like 16 there

 

[sub5outsider]

i had a co worker who was walking 10 percent body fat year round and i talked to the dude and he said that he was always like that he looks small in a shirt and even smaller in sweater he never bulk or cut just trains eat whatever he wants

 

[gribsufer1]

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hard to believe thats a photo, feels like a panel straight out of berserk

 

[currywhowillascends]

Realistically, you need 2/3 bulks and you'll have enough muslce mass to fit your frame and have a good physique. Then just maintain that at 12-14%.

Or just one good 18 month bulk

 

[bradpittshairline]

Most people including me will have shit under eye support at low bf

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Most people including me will have shit under eye support at low bf

Have you considered fat grafting?

 

[bradpittshairline]

Have you considered fat grafting?

Yup but I’m not sure if I’m a candidate. I literally have hollow under eyes. I’m nkt sure if I’ll need a physical implant or not

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Yup but I’m not sure if I’m a candidate. I literally have hollow under eyes. I’m nkt sure if I’ll need a physical implant or not

I have a similar issue and I’m trying fat grafting in a few weeks. I’ll let you know how it goes.

 

[bradpittshairline]

I have a similar issue and I’m trying fat grafting in a few weeks. I’ll let you know how it goes.

Let me know bro. Does your doctor think you only need fat grafting? I rarely see young people getting anything other than dermal fillers

 

[Deleted member 52566]

nah bale has tits there ill stay at 10%

 

[Napoleon1800]

Don’t get me wrong, leanmaxxing is crucial if you are overweight. But I’d venture to say that for most guys here, your issue is insufficient muscle mass, not excess bodyfat. The leaner you get the harder it becomes to gain and maintain a solid amount of muscle. “Water” you tell me…yet then why are so many autists on here trying to get down to sub 10% bodyfat when they have shit muscle? Take a look at this….

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Bale looks around 14% here, Efron is probably 8%. Both are gonna be appealing, but at 14% bodyfat you will feel so much healthier, and you’ll be able to make great gains. These ripped guys you see online are usually on all sorts of PEDs, which are a looksmin in the long term, and/or they are psychologically miserable and have fucked up health. Ruining your whole life to get that body just so you can have a little more appeal to JBs is just stupid. Unless you have freak genetics that support it, in which case you’re a lucky bastard.

12% bf Is ideal

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Being too skinny shows wrinkles

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Let me know bro. Does your doctor think you only need fat grafting? I rarely see young people getting anything other than dermal fillers

It seems to me that dermal fillers are preferred by many doctors simply because they’re a lot easier and faster which = more profit. Fat grafting is much more involved. My doc told me he preferred fat grafting because implants have a relatively high rate of removal and a tougher recovery.

 

[SoundnVision]

Effron is not close to 8% more like 12

 

[Deleted member 21345]

Should've posted bale in the machinist lol

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Should've posted bale in the machinist lol

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That’s how people some people here will end up trying to get to 6% bodyfat for “muh facial definition”

 

[PotassiumMaxxer]

I feel like if you have pretty good bone structure, wide gonions and stuff you'll look far better the leaner you are, but if you have worse bone structure you will look unhealthy like a meth head

 

[Kamui]

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[datboijj]

I'l pass I'm neveer being above 10% body fat ever in my life again

 

[Feliezzx]

Don’t get me wrong, leanmaxxing is crucial if you are overweight. But I’d venture to say that for most guys here, your issue is insufficient muscle mass, not excess bodyfat. The leaner you get the harder it becomes to gain and maintain a solid amount of muscle. “Water” you tell me…yet then why are so many autists on here trying to get down to sub 10% bodyfat when they have shit muscle? Take a look at this….

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Bale looks around 14% here, Efron is probably 8%. Both are gonna be appealing, but at 14% bodyfat you will feel so much healthier, and you’ll be able to make great gains. These ripped guys you see online are usually on all sorts of PEDs, which are a looksmin in the long term, and/or they are psychologically miserable and have fucked up health. Ruining your whole life to get that body just so you can have a little more appeal to JBs is just stupid. Unless you have freak genetics that support it, in which case you’re a lucky bastard.

Pubertymaxxers need to GTFIH, 13-16% bodyfat is ideal during puberty, eating enough food, working out and maintaining is where its at
Both obesity and starvation will botch your hormonal profile

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Pubertymaxxers need to GTFIH, 13-16% bodyfat is ideal during puberty, eating enough food, working out and maintaining is where its at
Both obesity and starvation will botch your hormonal profile

Starvemaxxing during puberty is suifuel you are way better off roping tbh

 

[Feliezzx]

Starvemaxxing during puberty is suifuel you are way better off roping tbh

I didn't eat too well during puberty, ended up at 6'3- fraud 6'4
I def could have been at least 6'5 if I just ate well and played a sport

 

[Clark69]

Indeed. I reached under 10% BF in 2020, and my skin looked awful, eyes were sunken in, I felt terrible and lazy 24/7, and my hair was dull and very low quality

only positive things I got from it was hollow cheeks that were barely noticeable and a jawline that was slightly sharper than usual. i learned from that colassal fuck up and maintained a 14-16% BF ever since

 

[Whatashame]

Indeed. I reached under 10% BF in 2020, and my skin looked awful, eyes were sunken in, I felt terrible and lazy 24/7, and my hair was dull and very low quality

only positive things I got from it was hollow cheeks that were barely noticeable and a jawline that was slightly sharper than usual. i learned from that colassal fuck up and maintained a 14-16% BF ever since

Did u reversed it? Same story, im afraid its permanent the skin and fat damage

 

[Orc]

I look good at 10% but like a bloated pig at 15%

 

[BoredPrince]

I would say that everyone should get first to 10% bf so they can "measure" along the way, at what bf is a good balance of looks and health

But of course there are people who will look bloated unless they get to low bf, so for them it's necessary

 

[NattyMikeO]

Highly genetic and age dependent. dont leanmaxx when growing unless fat. Otherwise if 20+ just try it and see if you look better. Most look better, but some don't. Just take pictures along the way so you know where your sweet spot is.

 

[cyprian_tomaszewski]

Don’t get me wrong, leanmaxxing is crucial if you are overweight. But I’d venture to say that for most guys here, your issue is insufficient muscle mass, not excess bodyfat. The leaner you get the harder it becomes to gain and maintain a solid amount of muscle. “Water” you tell me…yet then why are so many autists on here trying to get down to sub 10% bodyfat when they have shit muscle? Take a look at this….

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Bale looks around 14% here, Efron is probably 8%. Both are gonna be appealing, but at 14% bodyfat you will feel so much healthier, and you’ll be able to make great gains. These ripped guys you see online are usually on all sorts of PEDs, which are a looksmin in the long term, and/or they are psychologically miserable and have fucked up health. Ruining your whole life to get that body just so you can have a little more appeal to JBs is just stupid. Unless you have freak genetics that support it, in which case you’re a lucky bastard.

Being lean is mostly about the face, even if you lose some muscle you'll still look better.

But it isn's sustainable for some guys because you will feel like shit while very lean

 

[rubberduck]

Nope
10-15% is a huge gap for facial aesthetics especially if you don't have very prominent bones to begin with, or genetically store more fat in your face

 

[fuxkdakikez]

low bf enhances my shitty narrow jaw and high bf gives me nasolabial folds

 

[Constantin Denis]

low bf enhances my shitty narrow jaw and high bf gives me nasolabial folds

then low bf + masseter max