MSE soon, do I combine it with hgh? (20yo)

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Finally i'm doing a 5mm MARPE in september (i know its not that much but its the limit), I would like someone high iq to tell me if:

Does it make sense to be on HGH during treatment?
and if so, dose? and for how long? only the expansion phase (1-2 months), or even during the stabilizazion phase (8-10)?

does it improve the effect on the cheekbones?

or is actually counterproductive because it stiffens the suture, risking the MARPE not working?

 

[KYS RETARD COPERS]

5 mm is nothing, do 1 cm

 

[LEFORT17]

Finally i'm doing a 5mm MARPE in september (i know its not that much but its the limit), I would like someone high iq to tell me if:

Does it make sense to be on HGH during treatment?
and if so, dose? and for how long? only the expansion phase (1-2 months), or even during the stabilizazion phase (8-10)?

does it improve the effect on the cheekbones?

or is actually counterproductive because it stiffens the suture, risking the MARPE not working?

ur doing it in prep for djs?

 

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ur doing it in prep for djs?

yeah broo

 

[genes_reroll]

5 mm is nothing, do 1 cm

1 cm is a guaranteed botch

 

[wordengage]

This is what I got told by a doctor when I emailed him asking whether I should use HGH for jaw surgery.

Nonetheless, I'd suggest BCP-157 instead of HGH for repair. It's proven to improve the speed of bone and muscle healing.

 

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This is what I got told by a doctor when I emailed him asking whether I should use HGH for jaw surgery.

Nonetheless, I'd suggest BCP-157 instead of HGH for repair. It's proven to improve the speed of bone and muscle healing.

thank you bro, very bluepilled answer but i got the point...

btw my goal is extra zygomatic bones gains, bone healing is secondary,

is BCP-157 gonna stimulate osteoblast in the midface area under mechanical tension, like hgh?

 

[KYS RETARD COPERS]

1 cm is a guaranteed botch

But the main esthetic benefit of MSE is wider zygos, and 5 mm will do almost nothing for your zygos

One guy did 2 cm (crazy ik) and it was definitely a botch but his zygos stuck out afterward.

 

[KYS RETARD COPERS]

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This is what I got told by a doctor when I emailed him asking whether I should use HGH for jaw surgery.

Nonetheless, I'd suggest BCP-157 instead of HGH for repair. It's proven to improve the speed of bone and muscle healing.

Doctors can't advise anything that they can't advise. Doesn't mean it doesn't work.

 

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Doctors can't advise anything that they can't advise. Doesn't mean it doesn't work.

I'll ask dr Cantarella what's the max limit

 

[smallgromp123]

Hey, I did 1cm of expansion. I did not get botched. I would say the sweet spot (for me personally) was 6-8mm. I did 10mm (1cm) and naturally relapsed back to 8-9, so I'm fine.

But this is my own experience, I don't know what you personally need, functionally or aesthetically. I had a really rough crossbite.

 

[genes_reroll]

Hey, I did 1cm of expansion. I did not get botched. I would say the sweet spot (for me personally) was 6-8mm. I did 10mm (1cm) and naturally relapsed back to 8-9, so I'm fine.

But this is my own experience, I don't know what you personally need, functionally or aesthetically. I had a really rough crossbite.

Can you send before and after ? Pm is fine if you want

 

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Hey, I did 1cm of expansion. I did not get botched. I would say the sweet spot (for me personally) was 6-8mm. I did 10mm (1cm) and naturally relapsed back to 8-9, so I'm fine.

But this is my own experience, I don't know what you personally need, functionally or aesthetically. I had a really rough crossbite.

thats interesting, wich was your starting IMW? do u have a before & after? (Pm if u prefer)

 

[smallgromp123]

It was 38mm, but the top jaw was 10mm narrower than my bottom. It's still not wide enough even after all that expansion, I'm planning to get a HLF1, possibly segmental, that will set me at 50-52mm. I can't share before and afters. But I can say it gave me about +1 PSL. Definitely an improvement.

 

[zaebalsya]

that will set me at 50-52mm

wow
yea ur upper palate need to be 3-5mm wider than ur lower one
do u have 48mm lower palate imw right ? thats kinda rare

 

[smallgromp123]

wow
yea ur upper palate need to be 3-5mm wider than ur lower one
do u have 48mm lower palate imw right ? thats kinda rare

Yeah, it's 48mm. Didn't know it was rare (feelsgood). I guess the only thing that carried my growth was fermented dairy, I believe. Never was too big on meat + I've been mouth breathing all my life until 21.