Muh steppe mongol chads. Brutal for chinks.

[pentaChad_doomer]

Ricecels love to larp about the Mongol Empire "conquering" European women. West Eurasian DNA in the steppe is heavily sex-biased towards the MALE line. This means it was Indo-European men (R1a/R1b) who moved East and "integrated" with local East Asian females.
Fantasy:
View attachment 4748129View attachment 4748130
>While over 85% of Mongolian maternal lineages (mtDNA) belong to East Asian haplogroups (D, C, G, A), the paternal side tells a different story: a significant 10-15% of Mongolian men carry West Eurasian Y-DNA haplogroups such as R1a, R1b, J2, and G. According to the study published in Frontiers in Genetics.

Frontiers | Mitochondrial DNA Footprints from Western Eurasia in Modern Mongolia

Mongolia is located in a strategic position at the eastern edge of the Eurasian Steppe. Nomadic populations moved across this wide area for millennia before ...

www.frontiersin.org

The study found NO significant genetic signal of European women being brought back to Mongolia during the 13th century invasions. The "Mongol raider kidnapping the village Slavic Stacy" is a zero tier cope with no biological evidence.

Even Gengis Khan’s own clan, the Golden Family, were genetic cucks to the West. This study on the Tavan Tolgoi remains proved that the Borjigin elite carried the R1b-M343 paternal marker. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161622&hl=es-US
<Also
>Uyghurs
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Uzbeks
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Altaians
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Turkmen
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Kyrgyz
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Reality
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@PEENO08 @moggol @Mogwarts_Dropout

I have taken the dna test, if u want I can send the results

 

[inyerta]

Turko-Mongols literally wiped out Scythian cucks, there is a reason indo iranians no longer live in central asia.

They used to get scythian skulls and use it as cups to drink from while twking their women as sex slaves.

Medieval Arab and Persian descriptions of Turks state that they looked strange from their perspective and were extremely physically different from Arabs. Turks were described as "broad faced people with small eyes", having light-colored, often reddish hair, and with pink skin,[263] as being "short, with small eyes, nostrils, and mouths" (Sharaf al-Zaman al-Marwazi), as being "full-faced with small eyes" (Al-Tabari), as possessing "a large head (sar-i buzurg), a broad face (rūy-i pahn), narrow eyes (chashmhā-i tang), and a flat nose (bīnī-i pakhch), and unpleasing lips and teeth (lab va dandān na nīkū)" (Keikavus).[264] On Western Turkic coins "the faces of the governor and governess are clearly Mongoloid (a roundish face, narrow eyes), and the portrait have definite old Türk features (long hair, absence of headdress of the governor, a tricorn headdress of the governess)".

 

[unstable]

Your own table proves that West Eurasians successfully infiltrated every Eastern gene pool, while East Eurasians were almost entirely filtered out of the West.

hmm that is a interesting point as well

@EuphoricAsianNormie @hotcheetoboy @Sub5goblino

east eurasian dna was more male biased but west eurasian dna was more successful at infiltration
so it think this is a tie

 

[hotcheetoboy]

You just admitted they are 'mostly Caucasoid thanks for playing. You just debunked your own 'Mongol Steppe Bull' fantasy.

Nigga you're retarded, when I said that I was only referring to the Uzbeks (Who to this day haven't accomplished anything of note, they were most definitely not muh Mongol steppe bulls)

Actual Mongolians from Mongolia aren't mostly Caucasoid though, they're the most Mongoloid country in Central Asia

Massive genomic studies compared the Sintashta culture (the source of R1a-Z93) to modern populations. The Sintashta people were genetically indistinguishable from modern Northern Europeans.
View attachment 4748357

Haplogroup R originally came from pure Mongoloids, and Haplogroup R originally comes from Haplogroup K2B Mongoloid Tianyuan man which during the time of the Sintashta they had already bleached themselves with Caucasoid women similar to what Haplogroup N did in Finland

So Sintashta, and Yamnaya, are 99% Caucasoid AMWF similar to Finns

Finns are also the country with the highest amount of Yamnaya DNA, and they're also conveniently the Europeans who are the most gooked up

Also C still dominates R in Mongolia and Kazakhstan, and Haplogroup N mass replaced West Eurasian haplogroups all throughout Europe

More evidence on the recent arrival of haplogroup N and gradual replacement of R1a lineages in North-Eastern Europe | Indo-European.eu

A new article (in Russian), Kinship Analysis of Human Remains from the Sargat Mounds, Baraba forest-steppe, Western Siberia, by Pilipenko et al. Археология, этнография и антропология Евразии Том 45 № 4 2017, downloadable at ResearchGate. Abstract: We present the results of a paleogenetic...

indo-european.eu

Early replacement of West Eurasian male Y chromosomes from the east

The genomes of humans outside Africa originated almost entirely from a single migration out ∼50,000-60,000 years ago[1][1],[2][2], followed closely by mixture with Neanderthals contributing ∼2% to all non-Africans[3][3],[4][4]. However, the details of this initial migration remain...

www.biorxiv.org

>Nah nigga only Western FEMALE DNA is that prevalent in western Mongolia like I've shown you
Explain the 22% West Eurasian Y-DNA (R1a, R1b, J2) in Mongolia.

You have no source for it being 22% for the YDNA because it never reaches that high, but I've shown you the source of it being 22% for the mtDNA

This is the ultimate "Haplogroup Midwit" trap. You are confusing Uralic lineages from 10,000 years ago with "Turko-Mongols" from 800 years ago.

Cope it was recent, it includes Uralics yes but it also includes Turkic groups like the Huns and Avars who were mostly Haplogroup N, they raped and conquered Europe just a few centuries before the Mongol Empire came into play

"However, the large majority of the N samples in Europe or the western half of Asia date to the last 1,500-2,000 years only and are mostly associated /with clear events of migration from the east (Siberia, Altai, Mongolia, China), such as the Pannonian Avars, the Magyars, Mongols and the many Turkic groups."

Your screenshot shows a tiny sample of Altaian Kazakhs. When you look at the entire Kazakh nation (comprising hundreds of tribes), the West Eurasian Paternal DNA (R1a, R1b, G, J) is consistently between 35% and 40%.

Not according to the vast majority of sources, which is why you won't provide me with a single one

More like 10-20% max

1. west eurasian = lets take modern day ukrainian & russians as proxy
<2% mongoloid ydna
2. northern central asia = lets take modern day kazakhs
<38% caucasoid ydna
3. southern central asia = lets take modern day uzbeks
<62% caucasoid ydna
4. east asia= lets take modern day mongols
22% caucasoid tna

Source: trust me bro

Mongolia isn't East Asia, and even then most of their Caucasoid is from the maternal side

The entirety of East Asia, aka China Japan Korea has less than 1% Caucasoid DNA except for some western provinces in China

Meanwhile 20% of Russians have East Eurasian YDNA, that's 30 million people

And it's even more in Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia

Meanwhile they have less than 1% East Eurasian mtDNA, meaning it was all male dominated genetic replacement

 

[pentaChad_doomer]

I am 10% Indo-Iranian.

little bit small

 

[inyerta]

Even Europe is filled with East Asian Y dna, where could it be from?

 

[unstable]

Nigga you're retarded, when I said that I was only referring to the Uzbeks (Who to this day haven't accomplished anything of note, they were most definitely not muh Mongol steppe bulls)

Actual Mongolians from Mongolia aren't mostly Caucasoid though, they're the most Mongoloid country in Central Asia


Haplogroup R originally came from pure Mongoloids, and Haplogroup R originally comes from Haplogroup K2B Mongoloid Tianyuan man which during the time of the Sintashta they had already bleached themselves with Caucasoid women similar to what Haplogroup N did in Finland

So Sintashta, and Yamnaya, are 99% Caucasoid AMWF similar to Finns

Finns are also the country with the highest amount of Yamnaya DNA, and they're also conveniently the Europeans who are the most gooked up

Also C still dominates R in Mongolia and Kazakhstan, and Haplogroup N mass replaced West Eurasian haplogroups all throughout Europe

More evidence on the recent arrival of haplogroup N and gradual replacement of R1a lineages in North-Eastern Europe | Indo-European.eu

A new article (in Russian), Kinship Analysis of Human Remains from the Sargat Mounds, Baraba forest-steppe, Western Siberia, by Pilipenko et al. Археология, этнография и антропология Евразии Том 45 № 4 2017, downloadable at ResearchGate. Abstract: We present the results of a paleogenetic...

indo-european.eu

Early replacement of West Eurasian male Y chromosomes from the east

The genomes of humans outside Africa originated almost entirely from a single migration out ∼50,000-60,000 years ago[1][1],[2][2], followed closely by mixture with Neanderthals contributing ∼2% to all non-Africans[3][3],[4][4]. However, the details of this initial migration remain...

www.biorxiv.org

You have no source for it being 22% for the YDNA because it never reaches that high, but I've shown you the source of it being 22% for the mtDNA


Cope it was recent, it includes Uralics yes but it also includes Turkic groups like the Huns and Avars who were mostly Haplogroup N, they raped and conquered Europe just a few centuries before the Mongol Empire came into play

"However, the large majority of the N samples in Europe or the western half of Asia date to the last 1,500-2,000 years only and are mostly associated /with clear events of migration from the east (Siberia, Altai, Mongolia, China), such as the Pannonian Avars, the Magyars, Mongols and the many Turkic groups."


Not according to the vast majority of sources, which is why you won't provide me with a single one

More like 10-20% max

View attachment 4748415


Source: trust me bro

Mongolia isn't East Asia, and even then most of their Caucasoid is from the maternal side

The entirety of East Asia, aka China Japan Korea has less than 1% Caucasoid DNA except for some western provinces in China

Meanwhile 20% of Russians have East Eurasian YDNA, that's 30 million people

View attachment 4748449

And it's even more in Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia

Meanwhile they have less than 1% East Eurasian mtDNA, meaning it was all male dominated genetic replacement

west eurasian male dna was more sucessful at infiltrating east eurasian population but more than that was west eurasian female dna
east eurasian male dna was not as sucessful compared to west eurasian dna but it was more sucessful than east eurasian female dna

 

[unstable]

View attachment 4748453

Even Europe is filled with East Asian Y dna, where could it be from?

read this graph bhai

 

[Sub5goblino]

Haplogroup N is still a East Eurasian Y-haplogroup.

Most of the "Mongols" who invaded Russia and Iran were just Central Asian Turkics, specifically from the Cuman-Kipchak Confederation.

Cumans were basically hapas.
https://familypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Cumans#Genetics

The Cuman Turkics are an major ancestral component of modern Kazakhs, Karapalkaks, Bashkirs, and Volga Tatars.

Haplogroup C became Haplogroup N reached the Baltic 8,000 years ago. the prodominent haplogroup in modern day Kazakhstan as a result of the Mongol invasions, before that It was r1b or N.

This is why their impact on the European gene pool it's almost 0%. Haplogroup N reached the Baltic 8,000 years ago. The Mongols reached it 800 years ago. They are thousands of years apart.

 

[unstable]

conclusion in terms of infitration success
west eurasian female>west eurasian male>east eurasian male>east eurasian female

the success of male west eurasians is offset and reduced by the success (whoryness) of their females
so both groups were equally cucked each other anyone who thinks other wise is a fool

@Sub5goblino @inyerta @hotcheetoboy @EuphoricAsianNormie

 

[hotcheetoboy]

Your own table proves that West Eurasians successfully infiltrated every Eastern gene pool, while East Eurasians were almost entirely filtered out of the West.

Cope, West Eurasians didn't infiltrate East Asia at all which is literally 99% of East Eurasians, only Central Asia because the East Eurasian men were fucking all the local West Eurasian women as well as taking European women back to their harems in Central Asia

This is a retarded thing to say since Central Asia was ORIGINALLY inhabited by Indo Europeans until they got raped and displaced by Turks Mongols and Tungusics from Northeast Asia JFL, it was FOREIGNER GOOKS invading and raping and displacing Europeans in Central Asia not the other way around

hmm that is a interesting point as well

@EuphoricAsianNormie @hotcheetoboy @Sub5goblino

east eurasian dna was more male biased but west eurasian dna was more successful at infiltration
so it think this is a tie

It wasn't though

Every single Nordic and Slavic country has some amounts of Asian YDNA ranging from 5% to over 50%

Not a single East Asian country has over 1% West Eurasian YDNA, and East Asians are 99% of gooks

So this is a stupid argument, he's bringing up Central Asia compared to Europe as if Central Asia wasn't originally inhabited by West Eurasians in the first place until East Eurasians decided to come and rape and conquer them

East Asia: No Caucasoid DNA
Central Asia: Mix of Mongoloid and Caucasoid DNA, very Mongoloid male-mediated
Europe: Slight Mongoloid DNA, EXTREMELY Mongoloid male-mediated

This is why their impact on the European gene pool it's almost 0%. Haplogroup N reached the Baltic 8,000 years ago. The Mongols reached it 800 years ago. They are thousands of years apart.

Cope, the Haplogroup N Huns and Avars were just a few centuries before the Mongols, plus most of the soldiers in the Mongol Empire were Haplogroup N Turkic

Way more than 0% considering 50% of Finland and the Baltics have Haplogroup N, 20% of Russia has it, and around 10% of other Nordic/Slavic countries have it

 

[unstable]

Cope, West Eurasians didn't infiltrate East Asia at all which is literally 99% of East Eurasians, only Central Asia because the East Eurasian men were fucking all the local West Eurasian women as well as taking European women back to their harems in Central Asia

This is a retarded thing to say since Central Asia was ORIGINALLY inhabited by Indo Europeans until they got raped and displaced by Turks Mongols and Tungusics from Northeast Asia JFL, it was FOREIGNER GOOKS invading and raping and displacing Europeans in Central Asia not the other way around


It wasn't though

Every single Nordic and Slavic country has some amounts of Asian YDNA ranging from 5% to over 50%

Not a single East Asian country has over 1% West Eurasian YDNA, and East Asians are 99% of gooks

So this is a stupid argument, he's bringing up Central Asia compared to Europe as if Central Asia wasn't originally inhabited by West Eurasians in the first place until East Eurasians decided to come and rape and conquer them

East Asia: No Caucasoid DNA
Central Asia: Mix of Mongoloid and Caucasoid DNA, very male-mediated
Europe: Slight Mongoloid DNA, EXTREMELY male-mediated


Cope, the Huns and Avars were just a few centuries before the Mongols, plus most of the soldiers in the Mongol Empire were Haplogroup N Turkic

read my table again

 

[Sub5goblino]

View attachment 4748453

Even Europe is filled with East Asian Y dna, where could it be from?

outdated map

 

[hotcheetoboy]

conclusion in terms of infitration success
west eurasian female>west eurasian male>east eurasian male>east eurasian female

the success of male west eurasians is offset and reduced by the success (whoryness) of their females
so both groups were equally cucked each other anyone who thinks other wise is a fool

@Sub5goblino @inyerta @hotcheetoboy @EuphoricAsianNormie

Not how it works if you count East Asians

Not how it works at all actually, how did male west Eurasians have any success if they got demographically replaced by male East Eurasians in both Central Asia and Europe where they ORIGINALLY INHABITED, while they weren't able to make a dent in the gene pool of East Asia (Where most East Eurasians reside) AT ALL

Also females can't infiltrate JFL not how it works, the men of the conquering group always fuck the women of the conquered group it's never the other way around, it was all East Eurasian men infiltrating Central Asia and EE and fucking West Eurasian women

How did West Eurasian men have more success than East Eurasian men if East Eurasian men fucked way, way more WE women than WE men fucked East Eurasian women JFL

Not how it works nigga

East Eurasian male >>>>>> West Eurasian male in terms of reproductive success in Central Asia and Eastern Europe, and no West Eurasian males even reached East Asia besides maybe the tiny border provinces of China

read my table again
View attachment 4748470

Nigga that doesn't count East Asians like the Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans at all who make up 99% of gooks, only Central Asians who were originally European until they got invaded and replaced by Turks, Mongols, and Tunguiscs from Northeast Asia

 

[EuphoricAsianNormie]

This is why their impact on the European gene pool it's almost 0%. Haplogroup N reached the Baltic 8,000 years ago. The Mongols reached it 800 years ago. They are thousands of years apart.

There was a medieval wave of haplogroup N expansion occurred during the Hunnic, Avar, and Cuman-Kipchak eras.

Many Avar and Cuman-Kipchak men were haplogroup N.

Dagestanis are turkic and descend from a full blooded east asian ancestry (Khabib, Islam etc) the greatest fighters are AMWF hapas

For anybody not giving proper credit to East Asian men for creating some of the most dominant men in all of combat sports, and instead - crediting them as "white" and using them as examples for Caucasian / European dominance in combat sports and not east asian despite the historic and genetic...

looksmax.org

 

[unstable]

Not how it works if you count East Asians

Not how it works at all actually, how did male west Eurasians have any success if they got demographically replaced by male East Eurasians in both Central Asia and Europe where they ORIGINALLY INHABITED, while they weren't able to make a dent in the gene pool of East Asia (Where most East Eurasians reside) AT ALL

Also females can't infiltrate JFL not how it works, the men of the conquering group always fuck the women of the conquered group it's never the other way around, it was all East Eurasian men infiltrating Central Asia and EE and fucking West Eurasian women

How did West Eurasian men have more success than East Eurasian men if East Eurasian men fucked way, way more WE women than WE men fucked East Eurasian women JFL

Not how it works nigga

East Eurasian male >>>>>> West Eurasian male in terms of reproductive success in Central Asia and Eastern Europe, and no West Eurasian males even reached East Asia besides maybe the tiny border provinces of China


Nigga that doesn't count East Asians like the Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans at all who make up 99% of gooks, only Central Asians who were originally European until they got invaded and replaced by Turks, Mongols, and Tunguiscs from Northeast Asia

we are talking about steppe niggas this is why british and germans aren't counted only russian

 

[hotcheetoboy]

There was a medieval wave of haplogroup N expansion occurred during the Hunnic, Avar, and Cuman-Kipchak eras.

Many Avar and Cuman-Kipchak men were haplogroup N.

Dagestanis are turkic and descend from a full blooded east asian ancestry (Khabib, Islam etc) the greatest fighters are AMWF hapas

For anybody not giving proper credit to East Asian men for creating some of the most dominant men in all of combat sports, and instead - crediting them as "white" and using them as examples for Caucasian / European dominance in combat sports and not east asian despite the historic and genetic...

looksmax.org

That thread's premise is pretty retarded since Caucasus Avars and Pannonian Avars are completely different but yes, most of the Avar conquerors were Haplogroup N

 

[inyerta]

we are talking about steppe niggas this is why british and germans aren't counted only russian

Attila The Hun, conquered Germany

 

[salud]

Ricecels love to larp about the Mongol Empire "conquering" European women. West Eurasian DNA in the steppe is heavily sex-biased towards the MALE line. This means it was Indo-European men (R1a/R1b) who moved East and "integrated" with local East Asian females.
Fantasy:
View attachment 4748129View attachment 4748130
>While over 85% of Mongolian maternal lineages (mtDNA) belong to East Asian haplogroups (D, C, G, A), the paternal side tells a different story: a significant 10-15% of Mongolian men carry West Eurasian Y-DNA haplogroups such as R1a, R1b, J2, and G. According to the study published in Frontiers in Genetics.

Frontiers | Mitochondrial DNA Footprints from Western Eurasia in Modern Mongolia

Mongolia is located in a strategic position at the eastern edge of the Eurasian Steppe. Nomadic populations moved across this wide area for millennia before ...

www.frontiersin.org

The study found NO significant genetic signal of European women being brought back to Mongolia during the 13th century invasions. The "Mongol raider kidnapping the village Slavic Stacy" is a zero tier cope with no biological evidence.

Even Gengis Khan’s own clan, the Golden Family, were genetic cucks to the West. This study on the Tavan Tolgoi remains proved that the Borjigin elite carried the R1b-M343 paternal marker. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161622&hl=es-US
<Also
>Uyghurs
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Uzbeks
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Altaians
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Turkmen
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Kyrgyz
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Reality
View attachment 4748133
@PEENO08 @moggol @Mogwarts_Dropout

Lol

 

[Sub5goblino]

Cope, West Eurasians didn't infiltrate East Asia at all which is literally 99% of East Eurasians, only Central Asia because the East Eurasian men were fucking all the local West Eurasian women as well as taking European women back to their harems in Central Asia

Cope, the Haplogroup N Huns and Avars were just a few centuries before the Mongols, plus most of the soldiers in the Mongol Empire were Ha
This is a retarded thing to say since Central Asia was ORIGINALLY inhabited by Indo Europeans until they got raped and displaced by Turks Mongols and Tungusics from Northeast Asia JFL, it was FOREIGNER GOOKS invading and raping and displacing Europeans in Central Asia not the other way around

West Eurasian DNA in modern Mongols: 22%.
East Eurasian DNA in modern Russians: 5%

It wasn't though



Every single Nordic and Slavic country has some amounts of Asian YDNA ranging from 5% to over 50%



Not a single East Asian country has over 1% West Eurasian YDNA, and East Asians are 99% of gooks

So this is a stupid argument, he's bringing up Central Asia compared to Europe as if Central Asia wasn't originally inhabited by West Eurasians in the first place until East Eurasians decided to come and rape and conquer them



East Asia: No Caucasoid DNA

Central Asia: Mix of Mongoloid and Caucasoid DNA, very male-mediated

Europe: Slight Mongoloid DNA, EXTREMELY male-mediated

plogroup N Turkic

Way more than 0% considering 50% of Finland and the Baltics have Haplogroup N, 20% of Russia has it, and around 10% of other Nordic/Slavic countries have it

Notice that you had to use Haplogroup N (Uralic) to make your point. Why? Because the actual Mongol markers (Haplogroup C2 and O) are virtually 0% in Slavic and Nordic countries.

 

[unstable]

View attachment 4748481

View attachment 4748488
Attila The Hun, conquered Germany

View attachment 4748490

you know that is was one for one generation not enought to transfer genes
after his death the empire receded to patagonian plains
also he was defeat by pedophile italian aetius so not that important.

 

[Sub5goblino]

View attachment 4748481

View attachment 4748488
Attila The Hun, conquered Germany

View attachment 4748490

If you want to call out the fact that the map is statistically irrelevant because it shows "Mongoloid" DNA even in the Basque Country

 

[Sub5goblino]

View attachment 4748481

View attachment 4748488
Attila The Hun, conquered Germany

View attachment 4748490

Now gooks are claiming basques

 

[salud]

Ricecels love to larp about the Mongol Empire "conquering" European women. West Eurasian DNA in the steppe is heavily sex-biased towards the MALE line. This means it was Indo-European men (R1a/R1b) who moved East and "integrated" with local East Asian females.
Fantasy:
View attachment 4748129View attachment 4748130
>While over 85% of Mongolian maternal lineages (mtDNA) belong to East Asian haplogroups (D, C, G, A), the paternal side tells a different story: a significant 10-15% of Mongolian men carry West Eurasian Y-DNA haplogroups such as R1a, R1b, J2, and G. According to the study published in Frontiers in Genetics.

Frontiers | Mitochondrial DNA Footprints from Western Eurasia in Modern Mongolia

Mongolia is located in a strategic position at the eastern edge of the Eurasian Steppe. Nomadic populations moved across this wide area for millennia before ...

www.frontiersin.org

The study found NO significant genetic signal of European women being brought back to Mongolia during the 13th century invasions. The "Mongol raider kidnapping the village Slavic Stacy" is a zero tier cope with no biological evidence.

Even Gengis Khan’s own clan, the Golden Family, were genetic cucks to the West. This study on the Tavan Tolgoi remains proved that the Borjigin elite carried the R1b-M343 paternal marker. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161622&hl=es-US
<Also
>Uyghurs
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Uzbeks
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Altaians
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Turkmen
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Kyrgyz
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Reality
View attachment 4748133
@PEENO08 @moggol @Mogwarts_Dropout

Ricecels love to larp about the Mongol Empire "conquering" European women. West Eurasian DNA in the steppe is heavily sex-biased towards the MALE line. This means it was Indo-European men (R1a/R1b) who moved East and "integrated" with local East Asian females.
Fantasy:
View attachment 4748129View attachment 4748130
>While over 85% of Mongolian maternal lineages (mtDNA) belong to East Asian haplogroups (D, C, G, A), the paternal side tells a different story: a significant 10-15% of Mongolian men carry West Eurasian Y-DNA haplogroups such as R1a, R1b, J2, and G. According to the study published in Frontiers in Genetics.

Frontiers | Mitochondrial DNA Footprints from Western Eurasia in Modern Mongolia

Mongolia is located in a strategic position at the eastern edge of the Eurasian Steppe. Nomadic populations moved across this wide area for millennia before ...

www.frontiersin.org

The study found NO significant genetic signal of European women being brought back to Mongolia during the 13th century invasions. The "Mongol raider kidnapping the village Slavic Stacy" is a zero tier cope with no biological evidence.

Even Gengis Khan’s own clan, the Golden Family, were genetic cucks to the West. This study on the Tavan Tolgoi remains proved that the Borjigin elite carried the R1b-M343 paternal marker. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161622&hl=es-US
<Also
>Uyghurs
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Uzbeks
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Altaians
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Turkmen
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Kyrgyz
white male majority ydna haplogroups
>Reality
View attachment 4748133
@PEENO08 @moggol @Mogwarts_Dropout

Dna as a Bulgarian btw

 

[Sub5goblino]

Dna as a Bulgarian btw

But now gooks are claim that even basques are mongols

 

[dhusc]

There was a medieval wave of haplogroup N expansion occurred during the Hunnic, Avar, and Cuman-Kipchak eras.

Many Avar and Cuman-Kipchak men were haplogroup N.

Dagestanis are turkic and descend from a full blooded east asian ancestry (Khabib, Islam etc) the greatest fighters are AMWF hapas

For anybody not giving proper credit to East Asian men for creating some of the most dominant men in all of combat sports, and instead - crediting them as "white" and using them as examples for Caucasian / European dominance in combat sports and not east asian despite the historic and genetic...

looksmax.org

Turkic Groups (Kumyks, Nogais) have Turkic blood

people like khabib who come from the avar tribes don’t, so the entire claim of that thread of people like khabib having Turkic/East Asian is bullshit

 

[PEENO08]

Fuck i wish white men in the 1500s raped my worthless gookwhore ancestors so I could have 30% white dna current day

 

[inyerta]

Now gooks are claiming basques

Algoz - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Turkic Bvlls lived there and slept with the women, made their way up

According to some theories, the name of the town has its origins in the Arabic word Al-Gûzz or Al-Gozz which derives from the name of the Turkic Oghuz people (also known as Turkomans), whose members settled in the area in the 12th century.[2] In Portuguese, the word algoz means executioner or torturer because formal executioners and torturers recruited by the de jure Islamic authorities of the region under Muslim rule, after the Muslim invasion of Iberia, were Oghuz.

 

[dhusc]

Fuck i wish white men in the 1500s raped my worthless gookwhore ancestors so I could have 30% white dna current day

 

[Sub5goblino]

Algoz - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Turkic Bvlls lived there and slept with the women, made their way up

<Basques the literally purest west eurasians are now mongols

 

[lastofus123]

<Basques the literally purest west eurasians are now mongols

How is it the basques are asians but not arab when basque had more direct contact with moors this shit is just so stupid

 

[salud]

But now gooks are claim that even basques are mongols

Complete retards. How can basques be affected asian by migrations in the fucking west. Some central asian tribes have migrated into my lands thousand years ago and they mixed with local dacians, thracians and slavs. Bulgaria even created cryrilic alphabet that russians use. We are deeply connected with slavs. These moNgOlS that were migrating werent even mongols since they came from central asia not east. And they migrated only yo eastern europe and settled. Today you wont see any bulgarian with asian features, only the ones of khazakh descent have them.

 

[Sub5goblino]

How is it the basques are asians but not arab when basque had more direct contact with moors this shit is just so stupid

Basque don't even have moor blood

 

[Sub5goblino]

Complete retards. How can basques be affected asian by migrations in the fucking west. Some central asian tribes have migrated into my lands thousand years ago and they mixed with local dacians, thracians and slavs. Bulgaria even created cryrilic alphabet that russians use. We are deeply connected with slavs. These moNgOlS that were migrating werent even mongols since they came from central asia not east. And they migrated only yo eastern europe and settled. Today you wont see any bulgarian with asian features, only the ones of khazakh descent have them.

Some retard europedia map

 

[dhusc]

Algoz - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Turkic Bvlls lived there and slept with the women, made their way up

0 credible evidence for this btw, literally 0% turkic, they’re one of the most west european shifted ethnicities

 

[dhusc]

<Basques the literally purest west eurasians are now mongols

exactly this shit is going way too far

 

[tomahawk]

Extreme cope from an extremely low T sub3 KHHV yellowfevercel permavirgin subhuman unironically named @Sub5goblino with a negative rep ratio on an incel forum full of ND outcasts

In reality Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and Northern Europe was all BUILT on AMWF and STILL IS today if you look at intermarriage statistics in Central Asia JFL


It's not though, you have zero evidence for this JFL

West Eurasian DNA in the steppe is far, far more heavily sex-biased towards the FEMALE line

And East Eurasian DNA in the steppe is overwhelmingly sex-biased towards the MALE line

It was Turko-Mongolic men from Northeast Asia who moved to Central Asia and integrated with the local Caucasoid Indo-European women there through elite dominance, this is literally common sense to historians JFL @Maxillular @inyerta @tomahawk @GynoGladiator

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Central Asians' predominant "R" haplogroup is R1A-Z93 (Which still got cucked by Haplogroup C in Mongolia and Kazakhstan)

R1A-Z93 is a pure gook East Eurasian haplogroup from Siberia that is completely different than other R1A subclades, it has nothing to do with West Eurasians or Caucasoids

Haplogroup R originally came from Mongoloid Tianyuan man's direct descendants fucking Caucasoid women to bleach themselves to produce the Yamnaya bvll race, and R1A-Z93 specifically is pure gook, you can't find it in Europe at all because the R1A found in Europe is completely different to R1A-Z93, meanwhile the mtDNA in Central Asia is completely identical to the ones found in Europe

"According to Pamjav et al. (2012), R1a1a diversified in the Eurasian Steppes or the Middle East and Caucasus region: Inner and Central Asia is an overlap zone for the R1a1-Z280 and R1a1-Z93 lineages [which] implies that an early differentiation zone of R1a1-M198 conceivably occurred somewhere within the Eurasian Steppes or the Middle East and Caucasus region as they lie between South Asia and Central- and Eastern Europe.[17]"

"According to over 100 samples from the Tatarstan DNA project, the most common Y-DNA haplogroup of the ethnic Volga Tatars is Haplogroup R1a (over 20%), predominantly from the Asiatic R1a-Z93 subclade. Haplogroup N is the other significant haplogroup."

"R1a1a1 (R-M417) is the most widely found subclade, in two variations which are found respectively in Europe (R1a1a1b1 (R-Z282) ([R1a1a1a*] (R-Z282) (Underhill 2014)[2]) and Central and South Asia (R1a1a1b2 (R-Z93) ([R1a1a2*] (R-Z93) Underhill 2014)[2])."

"Haplogroup R is indeed considered to have originated from the East-Eurasian lineage P*, expanding with East Asian-related hunter-gatherers. As it migrated westward, it underwent genetic drift and became dominant in a population in western Central Asia. Over time, Haplogroup R diversified, contributing to various West-Eurasian populations. Research continues to explore these ancient movements and connections, showing a complex interplay between East and West Eurasian populations over millennia."


It's reality, which is why you posted ts like a cuck JFL you probably jerk your Slav microclit to ts

High T Central Asian steppe bvlls make your sub3 Slavcuck ass extremely insecure about yourself to having taken all of your prime white women from all of history to today


Cope, it happened, there's not a single quote from that link saying what you said JFL

Just making fanfiction up and hoping we won't look deeper into it lil nigga

Mongolians have a tiny amount of West Eurasian paternal haplogroups (not counting R1A-Z93, but even if you did they'd still have more West Eurasian mtDNA) because some West Eurasians were assimilated into the empire yes but they have EVEN MORE West Eurasian mtDNA due to Mongol bvlls kidnapping all the Slavic Stacies after slaughtering and castrating all the men of the village

Even YOUR OWN STUDY said they had up to 21.7% West Eurasian mtDNA JFL

"In the west, the presence of western Eurasian (WEu) haplogroups is significant (21.7%)"

In fact, in the east of Mongolia, West Eurasian YDNA haplogroups are nonexistent while West Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups still exist, and in the cherrypicked parts of Mongolia where they might have some West Eurasian YDNA, they have even more West Eurasian mtDNA JFL

"Our recent study indicated that all Mongolians clustered together in Y-STR data, including the TongHai Mongolians (our unpublished data). The extant TongHai Mongolians take the north-prevalent haplogroups (51.5%), and no European-specific haplotypes were observed."

Y-chromosome studies support the fact that Mongolians have kept East-Asian characteristics (Nasidze et al. 2005; Wells et al. 2001; Xue et al. 2006; Yang et al. 2005). The prevalence of the Mongolian Y chromosome in Central Asians support the inequity admixture due to Genghis Khan’s military success (Zerjal et al. 2002, 2003), that is, the Mongolia conqueror contributed the dominant Y chromosome to the descendant admixture populations. This happened in the Indo-Europeans admixture in the caste establishment in India (Bamshad et al. 2001; Thanseem et al. 2006), and similar situations were found among Spanish Conquistadors and British colonialists in North America and Australia (Carvajal-Carmonn et al. 2000). The Y-chromosome data support Mongolian impact in the genetics of Central and northern East Asians, however, Mongolian impact from maternal lineage was not significant (Bamshad et al. 2001; Thanseem et al. 2006).

The reality is that you and I both know is that Mongol steppe bvll Gigachangs went all across Europe collecting blonde white Stacies en masse to take back to their harems to impregnate and produce AMWF hapa mogger babies, as supported by all genetic evidence

"The European haplogroups were detected in Mongolians who inhabited Central Asia, such as Xingjing Autonomous region, and central Inner Mongolian. The Silk Road (second century BC to the thirteenth century AD) would have brought the European-specific genetics into those regions. However, few European-specific haplogroups have been found in Han and Tibetan populations who lived along the Silk Road (Yao et al. 2002; Qian et al. 2001), which supports the hypothesis that the Silk Road contributed little genetic admixture between the Europeans and East Asians. In history, the Parthian empire prevented any mass migration of strange people, usually only allowing caravans of traders to pass, so population migration freely between Europe and East Asia could not occur (Dubs 1957). Thus, the genetic admixture of Europeans with northern East Asians in Central Asian can only be explained by the later conquer of the Mongolian empire (1271–1368 AD). The Mongolian populations played an important role in promoting the historical development of Eurasia. Genghis Khan (1162–1227) and his descendants waged three wars in the west and established the united multiethnic Mongolian empire crossing Eurasia, which had 3.5 million km2 and a 100 million people. The Mongolians continued to dominate the region north of the Great Wall of China and west to the Aral Sea for two more centuries after the Mongolian empire ended in 1368. Then, some Mongolian descendants moved back to their hometowns from thousands of kilometers away. Those who migrated back carried some exotic genetic components with them. During their wars, the Mongolian conquerers incorporated some ethnic populations into their groups, and those admixtures expanded the Mongolian gene pool. The European-specific mtDNA haplogroups could be detected in different northern Mongolian populations."

"A 2020 study based on ancient DNA found that West Eurasian autosomal ancestry declined significantly in Mongolia during the Mongol empire period. The authors detected a male-mediated rise in East Asian ancestry in the late medieval Mongolian period, noting also the increase in haplogroup C2b, the presumed lineage of Genghis Khan.[18]"


Cope, that's a study on 4 random mutts COMPLETELY unrelated to Genghis Khan and has not been proven whatsoever to have any relation to Genghis Khan produced by some coping whybois tryna we wuzz the high T Chang who raped and genocided them to oblivion, you have zero proof they're related to Genghis Khan directly at all buddy

Meanwhile, this is the YDNA of the direct male line descendants of Genghis Khan, proving that he had an East Eurasian haplogroup

C2c1a1a1-M407: Carried by Mongol descendants of the Northern Yuan ruler from 1474 to 1517, Dayan Khan, a male line descendant of Genghis Khan.[9]

C2b1a1b1-F1756: In 2019, a Chinese research team study suggested that Haplogroup C2b1a1b1-F1756[10] might be a candidate of the true Y lineage of Genghis Khan. The Lu clan claimed to be the descendants of Khulgen, the sixth son of Genghis Khan. A genetic study of the molecular genealogy of Northwest China shows that some members of Lu belong to Y-DNA haplogroup C2b1a1b1 F1756.[10] This haplogroup is also observed in the Tore clan from Kazakhstan, who are paternal descendants of Jochi, the first alleged son of Genghis Khan.[11]
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161622&hl=es-US

Source: trust me bro

You posted zero evidence for any of ts cuz yk it's not true JFL

First of all most of the groups you mentioned don't even have white male majority YDNA haplogroups, that's a FLAT OUT LIE my nigga

Second of all, literally all the groups that DO have majority white male YDNA haplogroups have majority white female haplogroups as well, they're MAJORITY WHITE/CAUCASOID IN GENERAL buddy, in fact they have even more white female mtDNA than white male YDNA

So groups like that are mostly WMWF, followed by AMWF, followed by WMAF

Meanwhile even the supposed muh WMAF ones like Kyrgyz are actually AMAF cuz R1A-Z93 is an East Eurasian haplogroup (which still got brutally cucked by Haplogroup C in Mongolia and Kazakhstan)

"A genetic study on maternal mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroups of a Turkmen sample describes a mixture of mostly West Eurasian lineages maternal lineages and minority of East Eurasian lineages. Turkmens also have two unusual mtDNA markers with polymorphic characteristics, only found in Turkmens and southern Siberians.[58]"

Meanwhile let's look at Kazakhs, a country of over 20 million people, the tallest, richest, highest GDP, best looking, best at fighting, and most successful Central Asian country, and also genetically the closest to the Mongols who formed the Mongol Empire (Besides Mongolia itself)

Less than 10% West Eurasian paternally, but literally 41% West Eurasian maternally JFL

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For sure Kazakh bvlls slaughtered and castrated millions of Caucasoid cucks and then took millions of white Stacies all over Central Asia and Europe back to their harems and impregnated them en masse all throughout history

Every steppe gook group that accomplished something of note and formed large empires were AMWF

AMWF is LAW

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It's cope, he faked a lot of data assuming we wouldn't look deeper into ts JFL

In reality Central Asia was BUILT on AMWF and so is Europe

Demolished.

 

[hotcheetoboy]

we are talking about steppe niggas this is why british and germans aren't counted only russian

Regardless you mentioned infiltrating an East Eurasian population which West Eurasians didn't do whatsover, since Central Asia and Russia were both originally inhabited by Indo-Europeans and became more and more Mongoloid with time not less due to invading Mongoloids

And regardless, OP's main point of the thread got completely disproven by the both of us and everyone else in this thread really, in reality it was all East Eurasian men breeding West Eurasian women in both Central Asia and Northeast Europe, not the other way around

West Eurasian DNA in modern Mongols: 22%.
East Eurasian DNA in modern Russians: 5%

All male mediated, meaning it was all East Eurasian men fucking West Eurasian women

West Eurasians didn't infiltrate native East Eurasians at all since Central Asia was originally more West Eurasian, meaning it was East Eurasian men invading, infiltrating, and fucking West Eurasian women

Notice that you had to use Haplogroup N (Uralic) to make your point. Why? Because the actual Mongol markers (Haplogroup C2 and O) are virtually 0% in Slavic and Nordic countries.

I never said Mongols, Haplogroup N is also Turkic and Mongolic not just Uralic

Xiongnu Confederacy, Avar Khaganate, Hunnic Empire, Liao Dynasty, Seljuk Empire, etc. all Haplogroup N

Most of the Turkic groups who invaded Europe for millenia were Haplogroup N, and most Mongol Empire soldiers who invaded Europe were Turkic since the actual Mongolian population was always pretty small

Also, all the elites were gooks even in hapa communities

The Ashina ruling family of the Gokturks were tested to be 98% Northeast Asian genetically despite many commoner Gokturks having West Eurasian DNA

DNA studies on early members of the Ashina family revealed that they were exclusively East Asian.[97]

In 2023 the first genetic analysis on an early royal Ashina member (Empress Ashina, the daughter of Muqan Qaghan) found nearly exclusively Northeast Asian ancestry (97.7%) next to a minor West-Eurasian component (2.3%). The West-Eurasian component corresponded to a single mixture event dating to around 1566 ± 396 years before Ashina's lifetime (dating to c. 1000 BC). Our genomic analyses of Empress Ashina revealed Göktürk's Northeast Asian origin (97.7% Northeast Asian ancestry and 2.3% West Eurasian ancestry), refuting the western Eurasian origin and multiple origin hypotheses.

Same for the Avars and Huns. The higher you go up in into these hierarchies, the more East Eurasian they are, the lower, the more West Eurasian they are, it's East Eurasian male elite dominance

"A genetic study published in Scientific Reports in January 2020 examined the remains of 26 individuals buried at various elite Avar cemeteries in the Pannonian Basin dated to the 7th century.[58] The mtDNA of these Avars belonged mostly to East Asian haplogroups, while the Y-DNA was exclusively of East Asian origin and "strikingly homogenous", belonging to haplogroups N-M231 and Q-M242.[59] The evidence suggests that the Avar elite were largely patrilineal."

Elite Avar samples "preserved very ancient Mongolian pre-Bronze Age genomes, with ca 90% [Ancient North-East Asian] ancestry", shared deep ancestry with European Huns, but although since Early Avar period started mixing with local and immigrant Hunnic-Iranian related populations, "people with different genetic ancestries were seemingly distinguished, as samples with Hun-related genomes were buried in separate cemeteries". The majority of the Avar Khaganate population consisted of local European peoples (EU_core) but did not display Northeast Asian admixture, supporting a model of elite dominance of arriving horse nomads over a large sedentary population.

The Huns are almost always noted as fighting alongside non-Hunnic, Germanic or Iranian subject peoples or, in earlier times, allies.[168] As Heather notes, "the Huns' military machine increased, and increased very quickly, by incorporating ever larger numbers of the Germani of central and eastern Europe".[169] At the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains, Attila is noted by Jordanes to have placed his subject peoples in the wings of the army, while the Huns held the center.[170]

Avars mass fucked European women and cucked the men, the only reason European cucks were even able to fight them off is through the help of the genetically superior AMWF hapa sons of the Avars who refused obedience to their fathers

A genetic study published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology in 2018 examined 62 individuals buried in the 8th and 9th centuries at an Avar-Slavic burial in Cífer‐Pác, Slovakia.[51] The mtDNA of the examined individuals was found to be quite similar to medieval and modern Slavs, and it was suggested that the mixed population examined had emerged through intermarriage between Avar males and Slavic females.[54]

Each year, the Huns [Avars] came to the Slavs, to spend the winter with them; then they took the wives and daughters of the Slavs and slept with them, and among the other mistreatments [already mentioned] the Slavs were also forced to pay levies to the Huns. But the sons of the Huns, who were [then] raised with the wives and daughters of these Wends could not finally endure this oppression anymore and refused obedience to the Huns and began, as already mentioned, a rebellion. When now the Wendish army went against the Huns, the [aforementioned] merchant Samo accompanied the same. And so Samo's bravery proved itself in wonderful ways and a huge mass of Huns fell to the sword of the Wends.

 

[EuphoricAsianNormie]

West Eurasian DNA in modern Mongols: 22%.
East Eurasian DNA in modern Russians: 5%


Notice that you had to use Haplogroup N (Uralic) to make your point. Why? Because the actual Mongol markers (Haplogroup C2 and O) are virtually 0% in Slavic and Nordic countries.

Because most East Eurasian ancestry in Russians comes from Uralics and Turkics.

 

[hotcheetoboy]

@dhusc @Sub5goblino @salud I'm not the one claiming Basques were gook or anything else retarded btw I have never done so not even once JFL

All I'm claiming is OP's OG premise is completely wrong and it was completely the other way around in both Central Asia and Europe, aka East Eurasian men fucking West Eurasian women

And I'd be 100% right

 

[lastofus123]

Basque don't even have moor blood

I know they dont, in just saying that like how it woud even be possible for basque to have mongol dna if they didnt enthusiastic have moor dna which was more in direct contact with the basque

 

[inyerta]

0 credible evidence for this btw, literally 0% turkic, they’re one of the most west european shifted ethnicities

Then why do they have African DNA

 

[hotcheetoboy]

@dhusc @Sub5goblino @salud I'm not the one claiming Basques were gook or anything else retarded btw I have never done so not even once JFL

All I'm claiming is OP's OG premise is completely wrong and it was completely the other way around in both Central Asia and Europe, aka East Eurasian men fucking West Eurasian women

And I'd be 100% right

@unstable ^^^

Fuck i wish white men in the 1500s raped my worthless gookwhore ancestors so I could have 30% white dna current day

Nigga how much of a fucking cuck are you

Why didn't you say you wish your gookoid ancestors raped some white foids so you could have white DNA or sum JFL

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4chan rotting sub3 permavirgin truecel detected, opinion rejected

 

[lurker14]

4chan rotting sub3 permavirgin truecel detected, opinion rejected

ching chong ping pong

 

[PEENO08]

@unstable ^^^


Nigga how much of a fucking cuck are you

Why didn't you say you wish your gookoid ancestors raped some white foids so you could have white DNA or sum JFL

That works too, I wish my gookoid ancestors imported tens of thousands of white women back in the day and gave me 50% white dna

4chan rotting sub3 permavirgin truecel detected, opinion rejected

 

[dhusc]

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Then why do they have African DNA

stop using this stupid outdated map, no only is it outdated, it also doesn’t differentiate between different ethnic groups and I like how you shifted from Turkic to African

Patterns of genetic differentiation and the footprints of historical migrations in the Iberian Peninsula - Nature Communications

The Iberian Peninsula has a complex history. Here, the authors analyse the genetic structure of the modern Iberian population at fine scale, revealing historical population movements associated with the time of Muslim rule.

www.nature.com

 

[unstable]

Regardless you mentioned infiltrating an East Eurasian population which West Eurasians didn't do whatsover, since Central Asia and Russia were both originally inhabited by Indo-Europeans and became more and more Mongoloid with time not less due to invading Mongoloids

And regardless, OP's main point of the thread got completely disproven by the both of us and everyone else in this thread really, in reality it was all East Eurasian men breeding West Eurasian women in both Central Asia and Northeast Europe, not the other way around


All male mediated, meaning it was all East Eurasian men fucking West Eurasian women

West Eurasians didn't infiltrate native East Eurasians at all since Central Asia was originally more West Eurasian, meaning it was East Eurasian men invading, infiltrating, and fucking West Eurasian women


I never said Mongols, Haplogroup N is also Turkic and Mongolic not just Uralic

Xiongnu Confederacy, Avar Khaganate, Hunnic Empire, Liao Dynasty, Seljuk Empire, etc. all Haplogroup N

Most of the Turkic groups who invaded Europe for millenia were Haplogroup N, and most Mongol Empire soldiers who invaded Europe were Turkic since the actual Mongolian population was always pretty small

Also, all the elites were gooks even in hapa communities

The Ashina ruling family of the Gokturks were tested to be 98% Northeast Asian genetically despite many commoner Gokturks having West Eurasian DNA

DNA studies on early members of the Ashina family revealed that they were exclusively East Asian.[97]

In 2023 the first genetic analysis on an early royal Ashina member (Empress Ashina, the daughter of Muqan Qaghan) found nearly exclusively Northeast Asian ancestry (97.7%) next to a minor West-Eurasian component (2.3%). The West-Eurasian component corresponded to a single mixture event dating to around 1566 ± 396 years before Ashina's lifetime (dating to c. 1000 BC). Our genomic analyses of Empress Ashina revealed Göktürk's Northeast Asian origin (97.7% Northeast Asian ancestry and 2.3% West Eurasian ancestry), refuting the western Eurasian origin and multiple origin hypotheses.

Same for the Avars and Huns. The higher you go up in into these hierarchies, the more East Eurasian they are, the lower, the more West Eurasian they are, it's East Eurasian male elite dominance

"A genetic study published in Scientific Reports in January 2020 examined the remains of 26 individuals buried at various elite Avar cemeteries in the Pannonian Basin dated to the 7th century.[58] The mtDNA of these Avars belonged mostly to East Asian haplogroups, while the Y-DNA was exclusively of East Asian origin and "strikingly homogenous", belonging to haplogroups N-M231 and Q-M242.[59] The evidence suggests that the Avar elite were largely patrilineal."

Elite Avar samples "preserved very ancient Mongolian pre-Bronze Age genomes, with ca 90% [Ancient North-East Asian] ancestry", shared deep ancestry with European Huns, but although since Early Avar period started mixing with local and immigrant Hunnic-Iranian related populations, "people with different genetic ancestries were seemingly distinguished, as samples with Hun-related genomes were buried in separate cemeteries". The majority of the Avar Khaganate population consisted of local European peoples (EU_core) but did not display Northeast Asian admixture, supporting a model of elite dominance of arriving horse nomads over a large sedentary population.

The Huns are almost always noted as fighting alongside non-Hunnic, Germanic or Iranian subject peoples or, in earlier times, allies.[168] As Heather notes, "the Huns' military machine increased, and increased very quickly, by incorporating ever larger numbers of the Germani of central and eastern Europe".[169] At the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains, Attila is noted by Jordanes to have placed his subject peoples in the wings of the army, while the Huns held the center.[170]

Avars mass fucked European women and cucked the men, the only reason European cucks were even able to fight them off is through the help of the genetically superior AMWF hapa sons of the Avars who refused obedience to their fathers

A genetic study published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology in 2018 examined 62 individuals buried in the 8th and 9th centuries at an Avar-Slavic burial in Cífer‐Pác, Slovakia.[51] The mtDNA of the examined individuals was found to be quite similar to medieval and modern Slavs, and it was suggested that the mixed population examined had emerged through intermarriage between Avar males and Slavic females.[54]

Each year, the Huns [Avars] came to the Slavs, to spend the winter with them; then they took the wives and daughters of the Slavs and slept with them, and among the other mistreatments [already mentioned] the Slavs were also forced to pay levies to the Huns. But the sons of the Huns, who were [then] raised with the wives and daughters of these Wends could not finally endure this oppression anymore and refused obedience to the Huns and began, as already mentioned, a rebellion. When now the Wendish army went against the Huns, the [aforementioned] merchant Samo accompanied the same. And so Samo's bravery proved itself in wonderful ways and a huge mass of Huns fell to the sword of the Wends.

my argument was about west eurasian dna infiltrating east eurasian dna.
you are talking about lands
yamnayas were in east eurasian steppe no doubt and were replaced by proto-mongolian

 

[hotcheetoboy]

>That's him
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And this is you nigga, literal subhuman 20 year old KHHV

Why is it always the truecels bru

 

[hotcheetoboy]

my argument was about west eurasian dna infiltrating east eurasian dna.
you are talking about lands
yamnayas were in east eurasian steppe no doubt and were replaced by proto-mongolian

How did West Eurasian DNA infiiltrate East Eurasian DNA if Central Asia, and Europe, were both originally West Eurasian?

And if there are way more Europeans in the world with East Eurasian DNA than East Asians with West Eurasian DNA?

it was the other way around completely, and all male-mediated

 

[unstable]

How did West Eurasian DNA infiiltrate East Eurasian DNA if Central Asia, and Europe, were both originally West Eurasian?

And if there are way more Europeans in the world with East Eurasian DNA than East Asians with West Eurasian DNA?

it was the other way around completely, and all male-mediated

east eurasian dna not east eurasian lands bhai
bit of anachronism on science's part