Keep coping. Sooner or later you’ll meet Muhammad. In hell
It's in the Hadith
I’m the one going to hell. But it will just be me.
OP said the Quran says so… Hadiths are man-made folk tales basically. Quran itself is divine. Not comparable imho, I don’t believe Hadiths are really reliable, unlike most folks.
Most imams consider the different Hadiths to have varying degrees of reliability, I think the one talking about his relationship with Aisha was one of the more well-regarded ones
She wasn't 6 (probably 12) but she was young and there's nothing 'wrong' with it except our time-bound cultural sensitivities. It was just as abnormal as the fact his first wife was like 25 years older. No one would've batted an eyelid he married a young girl, and no one did so til like the 19th century.
It doesn't say you have to pray 5x a day in the Quran. Nor a lot of other things.
I remember reading a whole damn essay from some guy doing research and he concluded it’s not as reliable as everyone believes it is. Regardless though I do believe she was a teenager (14 - 19) but not a prepubescent child like people are claiming.
Yes, but there’s a difference between a young 14 year old and a young 6 year old or 9 year old. I agree there’s nothing wrong with a pubescent person consenting to a marriage and marrying. Although nowadays we as muzzies do not do this. We tend to wait till 18 because we have become age cucks as well.
The Quran does say you have to pray a certain amount of times per day. I read the Quran in English. But they are referred to as morning prayers, midday prayers, late evening prayers and night prayers. It just doesn’t say HOW we are supposed to pray (what we have to say). For that, we rely on the Hadiths.
You don't understand Arabic?
The 3 vs 5 prayers a day is backed up by hadiths, but yes a lot of rules pertaining to prayer are through hadiths. I know shias even combine maghrib/Isha or whatnot but Sunnis usually don't.
That makes 0 sense
No. I can read the Arabic script, read what it says in the Quran but I don’t know the meaning. Mindless droning stuff is incredibly low iq, so I decided to read it in a language I understood. I read it in Dutch first and then English later. I’m really glad it did because I learned a lot. From new things to misconceptions that have been cleared since then. For instance a major example I can think is that people say getting loans is haram, that you’re warring against god or something (yes, really) so many people don’t loan money even if they want to because of “muh interest is haram.” From reading the verses I understood what was being said that asking for interest is considered impermissible, as there is no justice in being owed more than what you originally gave. The central theme is justice. Paying for interest is however not something you can’t be blamed for, as you aren’t the one being unfair, you’re just doing it out of a necessity, it’s the other person who’s not doing it correctly.
Retarded argument. Maybe some salafist cuck will believe that, doesn’t mean it’s the universal truth. May as well lend support to Daesh (“ISIS”) who claim you’re a murtad for not following their way.“She wasn’t 9 she was 19” (Coping ethnic)
@Truecel is an ex Muslim because denouncing Hadith takes you out of Islam
@SecularIslamist is also an exmuslim for saying she was “probably 12” when hadith clearly states 6, she even said it herself
Again all of this is undisputed, for anyone reading this ignore these exmuslim copers
Hadith are all available online, you don’t need to travel to Cairo or Baghdad to learn abt islam today
Without hadith there is no islam, you can’t Learn how to pray, how much zakat to pay etc without that
The basic Islamic beliefs e.g major signs of judgment day are found in hadith
I’m not even religious (still knowledge mog 99% of Muslims) yet I acknowledge the seriousness of rejecting saheeh (trustworthy) hadith
Nigga my own parents ages aren't accurate. They're old AF and born without birth certificate. They have a fake birthday jfl. Their ages are estimations. My dad larped his older jfl.
Sunni cucks coping hard. “You’re kafir if you don’t believe in stuff people say brah!”
It's true. If you're not Sunni, what are you shia? You can't be 'just Muslim' - even those who say this say it defensively or out of ignorance, end up unknowingly following rules of a madhabb they inherited.Sunni cucks coping hard. “You’re kafir if you don’t believe in stuff people say brah!”
“It’s true cause I said so” lol solid argument. You’re no different from Daesh and Wahhabis for takfiring ‘cause of your own delusions.
if he waited till 12 , Safwan would have taken her virginity before momo.
maybe he just liked the child but not in a sexual way
Ur parents are subhumans no one cares abt
He did take her virginity aged 9…
This isn't a khariji mentality, and I could easily accuse you of being murjiah in your thinking; there's two sides to every coin.
Nobody knows.
I don’t follow any extremist group
I'm not saying she was 19 retard. She was young. Even the ages of Kings and royalties in Europe a couple hundred years ago are larps.
You claim to speak out against them but then you speak in their tongue. You are not so different if you think so.
Idc abt kings of Europe
Islam has been here for 1400+ yrs, there aren’t any “new” arguments other than this and a few others
You do which is why you said she was” probably 12”
Literally 100% of (non-ignorant) Muslims who know a thing or two about Islam would agree with me so 100% must be wahhabi / salafi.
If you’re not even religious why even bother talking to me on religious matters? It’s not like I can take you seriously afterward. Clearly when I was talking about Hadiths not being relevant I was talking about matters such as Aisha’s age. I expect a certain kind of intelligence level from people before I engage in a conversation with them. I suppose that’s my problem eh.
go grow a huge beard because it’s haram to cut ur beard in islam
Because all of you are equally retarded.
Why do you even care what someone else does considering you’re not religious?
I don’t pray for hours every day
Bro all 4 imam and every scholar among them agree she was 6 only modernist western “Muslims” who fear kafirs say she wasn’t
I’ll take a divine source over anything man-made. Anyone who argues this is dumber than a pile of rocks.
Still muslim
So those 4 imams are all omnipotent beings who are always correct, never wrong? Come on. What is this kind of thinking? They are people. People are faulty. The Quran says so.
I have more respect for u bro than modernist Muslim at least u acknowledge haqq
You can’t be a “Muslim” and not religious. Hell, even “Muslims” aren’t actual Muslims. If you understand, you know.
