My consultation with mike mew and my adult orthotropic treatment (18)

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After discovering orthotropics, I needed to check if there was any expansion that I could get at my age (18, born 4th of may 2002). I contacted Mike Mew by email and he told me to go to the only orthotropic clinic in my country (I'm portuguese, living in Lisbon). It was in the suburbs of the city so it was a drive of about 45 minutes.

Getting there, I met a Polish dentist who had only treated patient in her life with Orthotropics: her own daughter. I had been trying to mew for a few months by then but was unable, so i told her that perhaps an appliance (palate expander) would be handy. She was very skeptical. She had treated her daughter quite successfully. This girl had quite a recessed chin, due to mouth breathing, and now she looks fantastic after 3 years of treatment (she started at 8, she's now 11).

She is unsure that mewing will bring any results to me as a late teen, and is afraid of being sued by fucking up my teeth via palatal expansion by giving gaps in teeth, without any maxillary advancement.

I have a slight Class 3 malloclusion hidden by orthodontic treatment which changed the angle of my teeth a bit. My lower maxilla is ok, tbh, but im quite recessed on the upper maxilla, giving me an horse face look. That's me btw.
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She recommended to have a consultation with mike mew to make sure that palate expansion to help me improve oral postures (precisely the treatment she did to her daughter) was worth it. The consultation costed 225 pounds (quite expensive tbh), and it lasted for like 30 minutes.

Mike mew said that if I worked hard I could expect a maxillary expansion. He also recommended miofunctional therapy (tongue and mouth posture) and functional patterns (body posture). However the big worry is the gaps that the biobloc expansion will cause in my teeth. Severe diastema may be a risk that may need to be solved with veeners and composites. This makes me quite nervous.

I'm now also aware that MSE is an option and that only that is able to give me a midface expansion, and that biobloc is only dental. However, perhaps mewing +biobloc will give me that same effect.

In this paper u can find the summary of the consultation:
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My dentist also sent me these documents:

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So yeah. That's it. Any thoughts?
Btw im also thinking of getting a headger made by mew, i just contacted him now. I didnt know this was a thing
 

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Did not read a single word mike jew stole your shekels mewing is cope at 18
 
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Did not read a single word mike jew stole you shekels mewing is cope at 18

it is cope depending on age imo. It might be cope at mine, idk. if i were a child, no it wouldnt be cope
 
you fell for the mewing meme , atleast you are here for the real improvement
 
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it is cope depending on age imo. It might be cope at mine, idk. if i were a child, no it wouldnt be cope
you should do it at any age but don’t expect significant results past 12

its good to prevent against relapse after facepuller, chewing etc
 
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you should do it at any age but don’t expect significant results past 12

its good to prevent against relapse after facepuller, chewing etc
JFL. chewing is part of the orthotropic treatment. and mew treats some patients with facepuller
 
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not related to the thread, but is there any cheap or decent facepuller to buy?
500 doll is actually insanely expensive for me since i live on a 3rd world country
 
nice still good mouth posture is important for making the hyoid dissapear and avoiding getting worse development when you age :)
but u do agree that not mewing, lack of chewing and bad lip/teeth posture, bad swallowing patterns and bad neck posture is the reason y people like me r recessed correct?
 
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but u do agree that not mewing, lack of chewing and bad lip/teeth posture, bad swallowing patterns and bad neck posture is the reason y people like me r recessed correct?
hmmm genetics also play a big role for sure i am not good at answering your question but keep in mind, you cant change the past but you have the future in your hands :)
 
hmmm genetics also play a big role for sure i am not good at answering your question but keep in mind, you cant change the past but you have the future in your hands :)
there is no evidence that points to malloclusion being genetic, period.

i just need advice as to whether this treatment is worth it at all? bc im afraid of fucking up my teeth. would hope u guys would read it and tell me ur thoughts
 
(she started mewing at 8, she's now 11)

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lmao, i know i wont get the same results. tbh i blame my parents that didnt tell me to put my neck straight and shut my mouth when i was little. but good posture is healthy regardless, right?
 
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MY CONSULTATION WITH MIKE JEW
 
lmao, i know i wont get the same results. tbh i blame my parents that didnt tell me to put my neck straight and shut my mouth when i was little. but good posture is healthy regardless, right?
just try it anyways you barely look 18 more like 14
 
MY CONSULTATION WITH MIKE JEW
he mostly treats children, and only works with adults without skeletal malloclusion in the molars. He has saved many kids from inceldom
 
just try it anyways you barely look 18 more like 14
my puberty was medically delayed by almost 2 years so that i could grow more
 
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You have been jewed, son
 
You have been jewed, son
tbh maybe. at my age it might be cope. but the work he does with children is nevertheless amazing. saving children from inceldom. i still dont get what's wrong with improving posture
 
not even recessed just you pheno tbh @Mohamad
 
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MY CONSULTATION WITH MIKE JEW
wtf is this all this hatred with mike mew? he admits this shit is not for adults. this is to guide growth, this ain't surgery.
 
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over for low iq cels
lowiqcel you can't even answer my question. no wonder you got scammed by mike jew
Tenor 6

bet if some snake oil salesman offered you magic formula to grow new jaw you would buy it :lul:
 
do you have down sydrome retard?

JFL where are clinical studies moron
tfw when genes fucks up not only ur looks, but ur intelligence too. it's over ngl
 
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lowiqcel you can't even answer my question. no wonder you got scammed by mike jew
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bet if some snake oil salesman offered you magic formula to grow new jaw you would buy it :lul:
research for urself his work on children. i know a child who was treated by mew himself. difference is night and day.
u want evidence of mewing just look at ancient skulls. none had skeletal malloclusion or crooked teeth. This shows it's environmental.
 
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research for urself his work on children. i know a child who was treated by mew himself. difference is night and day.
u want evidence of mewing just look at ancient skulls. none had skeletal malloclusion or crooked teeth. This shows it's environmental.
who said ancient people mewed retarded cuck :lul: lmao you are retard
 
who said ancient people mewed retarded cuck :lul: lmao you are retard
Mewing is just natural tongue posture. Plus they did way more chewing. It's our modern environment such as allergies and soft foods that make us not mew. Another example is looking at the faces of the children who mouth breathe vs those who dont and compare their forward growth.
 
Mewing is just natural tongue posture. Plus they did way more chewing. It's our modern environment such as allergies and soft foods that make us not mew. Another example is looking at the faces of the children who mouth breathe vs those who dont and compare their forward growth.
not all incels had these issues you mentioned. plus most of this is not yet proven by science.
 
Dnrd.. as soon as i saw 'Mike Jew' i knew it was cope...
Steam Community :: :: jew

wrong forum, go back to The Great WorkCope.org
 
not all incels had these issues you mentioned. plus most of this is not yet proven by science.
Not proven by science bc it's not mainstream. But the evidence is already overwhelming. As for mewing at my age, sure maybe i've been scammed. Had i received this treatment at 10, no i wouldnt be here.
And u can be an incel for a variety of reasons. Mewing is for preventing craniofacial dystrophy, not cure inceldom
 
Yeah i agree with u. At what age does it become cope? Mew insists its 25, but that sounds bs to me

inb4 facial sutures dont ever fuse cope.

Bone growth/remodeling slows down after that last bit of puberty in late teens. After which the turnover and remodeling by osteoclasts don't produce any significant net growth of bone. Mike jew has sold himself a bit too high and his problem nowadays is retards asking him to help change their face in their 20's. My little brother had a recessed chin up till he was 10-12. Once his growth spurt hit.. he grew his chin beyond his lower lip naturally.. despite his palate being narrow as shit.. not denying or confirming that mewing changes faces significantly for kids and early teens but.. lets be honest.. genes are underrated as a muhfker in the orthotropic cult
 
inb4 facial sutures dont ever fuse cope.

Bone growth/remodeling slows down after that last bit of puberty in late teens. After which the turnover and remodeling by osteoclasts don't produce any significant net growth of bone. Mike jew has sold himself a bit too high and his problem nowadays is retards asking him to help change their face in their 20's. My little brother had a recessed chin up till he was 10-12. Once his growth spurt hit.. he grew his chin beyond his lower lip naturally.. despite his palate being narrow as shit.
Interesting.
 
You can mew all you want, it's free. Your best option is to get some implants if you want to advance undereye support. If you want to advance maxilla either lefort or maybe MSE+Facemask+all the mewing and postures you like, can give you some fwd growth.
You need braces for anything that will change your face significantly.
 

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