My experience with achieving CCW Rotation naturally (with results)

[turneywest]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

 

[shaneywaney69]

some people on here dont believe in face pulling

 

[adam00]

how many times a day were u thumbpulling?

also did u only thumbpull mid palate or back and front

 

[VirTeX]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

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2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

Thumbpulling

 

[turneywest]

how many times a day were u thumbpulling?

also did u only thumbpull mid palate or back and front

I always did it in the middle and back. I always did it before bed.

 

[turneywest]

Thumbpulling

 

[childishkillah]

 

[patbate2024]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

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2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

How much time did it take to see results?
And what's your routine?
I do AstroSky's routine as it makes more sense

 

[turneywest]

How much time did it take to see results?
And what's your routine?
I do AstroSky's routine as it makes more sense

I don't have a routine. I do it when I want and as much as I want. I don't know anything about AstroSky's routine.

 

[jeoyw9192]

How much time did it take to see results?
And what's your routine?
I do AstroSky's routine as it makes more sense

what is astrosky's routine?

 

[patbate2024]

what is astrosky's routine?

 

[patbate2024]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

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2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

Just noticed the x rays..
Omg , are they yours?

 

[cynicism32]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

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2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

Even ur nose tilt got better mirin

 

[turneywest]

Just noticed the x rays..
Omg , are they yours?

No. this is from the video i mentioned

 

[patbate2024]

No. this is from the video i mentioned

Take a look at this bro
Ignore his autism

 

[Matt1231]

2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

How did you tear the maxillary sutures?

 

[maorosqrt]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

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2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

how old are you on both pic ?

 

[turneywest]

how old are you on both pic ?

15 and 16

 

[turneywest]

How did you tear the maxillary sutures?

To break them, you don't need to press, but rather hit them. I don't know how to explain this movement.

 

[maorosqrt]

15 and 16

so it’s just puberty

 

[turneywest]

so it’s just puberty

I don't know how puberty helped me with the position of the tip of my nose.

 

[Matt1231]

To break them, you don't need to press, but rather hit them. I don't know how to explain this movement.

May I ask what you used to hit them?

 

[turneywest]

May I ask what you used to hit them?

I don't tear them from the outside. I just do it with a towel.

 

[Matt1231]

I don't tear them from the outside. I just do it with a towel.

I may be too retarded to understand but how do you tear them with a towel?

 

[turneywest]

I may be too retarded to understand but how do you tear them with a towel?

It's okay, many people don't understand this because I don't know how to explain it in words. I need a video for this, but I don't want to post myself.

 

[ilikefish]

I may be too retarded to understand but how do you tear them with a towel?

Prolly put the towel in the mouth then bite down on it and pull the towel out while resisting with the teeth watch jordan wood

 

[kiidz24]

Prolly put the towel in the mouth then bite down on it and pull the towel out while resisting with the teeth watch jordan wood

Fucking up ur bite speedrun

 

[Matt1231]

Prolly put the towel in the mouth then bite down on it and pull the towel out while resisting with the teeth watch jordan wood

The median palatine suture runs in a different direction so that would really just fuck up your teeth.

@turneywest , maybe you could show how using diagrams of the skull and upper jaw, drawing points where to put the towel.

 

[Gaki23]

In this thread I will tell you what I did and what could have influenced my results​

1. Thumb pulling to widen the palate

I widened my palate by approximately 4 mm. This actually had little effect on rotation. The only thing I gained from it was a wider airway and a wider middle third.
I recently watched a JawHacks interview with an FME orthodontist. The video included before and after X-rays. Of course, his upper jaw moved forward, but I want you to pay attention to his lower jaw. We know that the lower jaw follows the upper jaw, and when the upper jaw shifted, the jaw joints changed their position, causing the lower jaw to move forward as well.

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2.Facepulling; towel pulling: belt pulling

I don't think there's any point in explaining this. I had my own technique for doing it. I first tore the maxillary sutures so that they would be pliable to pressure later.

3. Hard mewing 24/7

I don't see the point in explaining either. Just press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.

See my results for yourself
in the added files​

Id suggest you just get a palate expander

 

[turneywest]

The median palatine suture runs in a different direction so that would really just fuck up your teeth.

@turneywest , maybe you could show how using diagrams of the skull and upper jaw, drawing points where to put the towel.

Apply to all teeth except the front 4 teeth.

 

[Chadlite.dream]

Thumbpulling

I guess

 

[sh4lomharlow]

Apply to all teeth except the front 4 teeth.

what do u think of plier pulling

 

[turneywest]

what do u think of plier pulling

I tried doing this myself, but the problem is there's no suitable plier to expand the palate. Instead, you end up pressing on the tooth or gum. It's a good idea, but the implementation is a bit difficult.

 

[genetherapy]

you the maxillary sutures get "teared" during the beltpull right? you dont need to add a extra movement.

 

[turneywest]

you the maxillary sutures get "teared" during the beltpull right? you dont need to add a extra movement.

Why?

 

[genetherapy]

you the maxillary sutures get "teared" during the beltpull right? you dont need to add a extra movement.