My gym trainer told me something crazy...

[makeme183]

So we were talking about juicing and stuff , and he's like - you just need to run a short cycle bro , gain muscle , and then you can maintain that with just diet and exercise

I was in disbelief , since I thought you have to be on maintenance for ever to hold on to your gains

I had told him I wasn't looking for bigger muscles , just better definition (good biceps and deltoid insertions ,visible abs without flexing,adonis belt)

Also, he said juicing is expensive af , but test E is shit cheap online

is this true ? @decadouche57 @Blackgymmax

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Interesting.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

doesnt work

if youre doing all of this + got lucky you might keep 30-40% of what u gained on juice long term

 

[makeme183]

doesnt work

if youre doing all of this + got lucky you might keep 30-40% of what u gained on juice long term

that's what I think as well

but 30-40% after a 1 time only cycle is waaay better than natty gymcelling for 5 years

 

[Deleted member 1140]

that's what I think as well

but 30-40% after a 1 time only cycle is waaay better than natty gymcelling for 5 years

the main reasons why i dont do that shit is because it confuses ur hormones and some people get problems for years after a small cycle

that and addiction

 

[Deleted member 2268]

So we were talking about juicing and stuff , and he's like - you just need to run a short cycle bro , gain muscle , and then you can maintain that with just diet and exercise

I was in disbelief , since I thought you have to be on maintenance for ever to hold on to your gains

I had told him I wasn't looking for bigger muscles , just better definition (good biceps and deltoid insertions ,visible abs without flexing,adonis belt)

Also, he said juicing is expensive af , but test E is shit cheap online

is this true ? @decadouche57 @Blackgymmax

Just lose all your hair in 4 weeks bro

 

[makeme183]

the main reasons why i dont do that shit is because it confuses ur hormones and some people get problems for years after a small cycle

that and addiction

that and also if you're already sensitive to androgens(oily skin,acne,MPB) all these are gonna get 10x after roids

 

[Deleted member 2268]

the main reasons why i dont do that shit is because it confuses ur hormones and some people get problems for years after a small cycle

that and addiction

Hair loss, ED, death

 

[Deleted member 2268]

that's what I think as well

but 30-40% after a 1 time only cycle is waaay better than natty gymcelling for 5 years

30-40% erection quality also

@lebronjames23

 

[Deleted member 2268]

that and also if you're already sensitive to androgens(oily skin,acne,MPB) all these are gonna get 10x after roids

I lost 25% hair density in 2 months on test with fin

 

[makeme183]

Hair loss, ED, death

one cycle isn't gonna kill you , come on man
I'll only run test or anavar , if I decide to run at all

 

[Deleted member 2268]

one cycle isn't gonna kill you , come on man
I'll only run test or anavar , if I decide to run at all

Go do it

I had to stop my cycle after 2 months because my hair was thinning so bad. But don’t listen to me go lose your hair, get ED, and come back here

 

[5.5psl]

Hair loss, ED, death

Agreed

 

[Deleted member 2268]

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[Deleted member 2268]

Agreed

No one should have to go through this. All for 5 pounds of muscle

 

[letsdoit]

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Send it in the pms, I feel like your just not wanting others to looksmax

 

[Deleted member 16371]

I lost 25% hair density in 2 months on test with fin

Holy fucking fuuuuuuk shit really? Hair is life before everything else

 

[5.5psl]

Send it in the pms, I feel like your just not wanting others to looksmax

He actually has lost hair and got brutal ed from fin he had made a post also couldn't even fuck a girl bcoz of his ed brutally over him tbh

 

[Enlil]

imagine paying randoms to teach you lifting when you can find all for free online or with bit socialmaxxing and askin for tips from gym rats who'd help always.
also kys nothing crazy nor new and your coach is scamming your bitch ass for constant money milking.

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Send it in the pms, I feel like your just not wanting others to looksmax

Don’t want others to lose hair and get ED. Putting you on my ignore list fucking retard

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Holy fucking fuuuuuuk shit really? Hair is life before everything else

I got it back by stopping roids

 

[makeme183]

I got it back by stopping roids

what about your gains ? did you lose them completely ?
are you doing PCT now ?
what did your run ? dosage ?
who guided you ?

 

[Deleted member 2268]

what about your gains ? did you lose them completely ?
are you doing PCT now ?
what did your run ? dosage ?
who guided you ?

My cycle was only 300 test. I did pct and lost even more hair but it came back after months. I lost most of my gains

 

[letsdoit]

He actually has lost hair and got brutal ed from fin he had made a post also couldn't even fuck a girl bcoz of his ed brutally over him tbh

From fin or from roids? Big difference
Less than 1% of ppl get sides from fin/dut…

 

[User28823]

I had told him I wasn't looking for bigger muscles , just better definition (good biceps and deltoid insertions ,visible abs without flexing,adonis belt)

If you need roids for this just give up never step foot in the gym again. Also you don't develop better bicep and deltoid insertions you're born with them. Sounds to me like you just need to follow dieting 101 calories in calories out boom you dropped your bodyfat and attained your goals now you can fire your trainer

 

[5.5psl]

From fin or from roids? Big difference
Less than 1% of ppl get sides from fin/dut…

He got hair loss from roids
ED from fin/dut
Both are worthless don't take them at the first place just be natty tbh girls like a Athletic lean physique

 

[Deleted member 2268]

From fin or from roids? Big difference
Less than 1% of ppl get sides from fin/dut…

Both affect hormones dumbass

 

[makeme183]

My cycle was only 300 test

fucking brutal bruh
From your earlier posts and username , I thought you were blasting every compound under the sun
so you ran your cycle from sept - nov 2022 ? (2 months)
also,isn't the minimum effective test dose 500mg ?

If you need roids for this just give up never step foot in the gym again. Also you don't develop better bicep and deltoid insertions you're born with them. Sounds to me like you just need to follow dieting 101 calories in calories out boom you dropped your bodyfat and attained your goals now you can fire your trainer

I'm already starving myself to the point of passing out
11% Bf
but that's not enough to get a body like I described , you have to either
1.gymcell for 4-5 years ( I have done only 6 months)
2.juice

 

[User28823]

fucking brutal bruh
From your earlier posts and username , I thought you were blasting every compound under the sun
so you ran your cycle from sept - nov 2022 ? (2 months)
also,isn't the minimum effective test dose 500mg ?

I'm already starving myself to the point of passing out
11% Bf
but that's not enough to get a body like I described , you have to either
1.gymcell for 4-5 years ( I have done only 6 months)
2.juice

I've already had a physique like that since I was 13

 

[makeme183]

just be natty tbh girls like a Athletic lean physique

I know man , but that takes too long to achieve natty
can't compete with guys who have been gymcelling for 4-5 years already

 

[makeme183]

I've already had a physique like that since I was 13

pics or larp

 

[Deleted member 2268]

fucking brutal bruh
From your earlier posts and username , I thought you were blasting every compound under the sun
so you ran your cycle from sept - nov 2022 ? (2 months)
also,isn't the minimum effective test dose 500mg ?

I'm already starving myself to the point of passing out
11% Bf
but that's not enough to get a body like I described , you have to either
1.gymcell for 4-5 years ( I have done only 6 months)
2.juice

My username is complete satire making fun of roiders

I have a Chadlite face and am tall but I got greedy and ran 300 mg. Didn’t want to do 500 mg because I was worried about hair loss. Still ended up losing hair and having to cycle off

 

[Deleted member 2268]

I know man , but that takes too long to achieve natty
can't compete with guys who have been gymcelling for 4-5 years already

Your competing with guys that have a Chadlite face not some gymcels JFL

 

[5.5psl]

I know man , but that takes too long to achieve natty
can't compete with guys who have been gymcelling for 4-5 years already

Hardwork matters bro when you achieve your physique slowly you will be proud of yourself after 5 years roids are completely not worth it you gotta commit them for life

 

[makeme183]

I am tall

I thought you were 5'8 , why do you wear shoe lifts then ?

 

[makeme183]

Your competing with guys that have a Chadlite face not some gymcels JFL

I have HTN face , wanna run body halo on OLD

 

[Deleted member 2268]

I thought you were 5'8 , why do you wear shoe lifts then ?

I am 6’2 where tf did you think I’m 5’8. I still wore lifts to fraud 6’4

 

[Deleted member 2268]

I have HTN face , wanna run body halo on OLD

Hair loss and ED halo too

 

[letsdoit]

Both affect hormones dumbass

Your comparing steroids and blasting to fin? Lol

 

[Deleted member 2268]

What to do for hairloss then?
All top users here are on dut/fin 3x a week

Your like the dog shit on the bottom of my shoe

 

[5.5psl]

Your comparing steroids and blasting to fin? Lol

Fin shuts the dht conversion and dht is necessary for overall mental health and sex life
Blasting roids shuts test production which is again necessary for overall well being so yeah fin and blasting are equal tbh both are fucking your hormones

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Fin shuts the dht conversion and dht is necessary for overall mental health and sex life
Blasting roids shuts test production which is again necessary for overall well being so yeah fin and blasting are equal tbh both are fucking your hormones

These guys are so dumb lol

 

[ezio6]

Adios testis

 

[Blackpilled1027]

seems legit thanks to muscle memory

 

[Germania]

You can't keep your PED gains that you couldn't get naturally. But if you're far from your individual maxed out fancy physique, you're bound to make some gains, not all. I've seen this often with friends. It could be a shortcut to achieve the body that you can keep natural afterwards.

 

[chigoha]

sarms are better IMO , just run low dose mk677, low dose lgd and low dose enclomiphene

do a 2-3 months cycle with a good low carb low sodium high protein diet and you're good

 

[VenatorLuparius]

imagine paying randoms to teach you lifting when you can find all for free online or with bit socialmaxxing and askin for tips from gym rats who'd help always.
also kys nothing crazy nor new and your coach is scamming your bitch ass for constant money milking.

A lot of people are lazy and won’t put in the work to learn by themselves.

 

[kalefartbomb]

He's full of shit you maintain nothing after you come off. A lot of roiders delude themselves into thinking they are maintaining gains because they never come off long enough to lose substantial amounts of muscle. They will roid for say 12 weeks, do a PCT (essentially an extended cycle), then 2-3 months later they're back on the next cycle. If they came off for 6+ months they would shrink to nothing.

 

[lebronjames23]

30-40% erection quality also

@lebronjames23

Add in a bit of depression due to lack of DHT too

 

[lebronjames23]

Yep, NEVER risk acne , hairloss and collagen loss for a couple LBs of muscle + a shit tok of water weight. Face is KING and those sides will ruin your face

Just lose all your hair in 4 weeks bro