My gym trainer told me something crazy...

[lebronjames23]

Fin shuts the dht conversion and dht is necessary for overall mental health and sex life
Blasting roids shuts test production which is again necessary for overall well being so yeah fin and blasting are equal tbh both are fucking your hormones

Finally someone else that understands the importance of DHT. DHT is the king sexual hormone

 

[Max Frauder]

Your "trainer" is talking shite.

 

[Gandy]

Testosterone levels will not stay the same after you quit and do a PCT so you will lose muscle mass.

But other non-steroid stimulants will give you permanent results with short cycles.

For example clenbuterol fat loss results are permanent if you don't pig out on food again.

DNP fat loss results are permanent if you don't pig out on food again.

Neither one will kill you if you stick to a safe dose.
Both have side effects - but neither one will kill you or damage you if you stick to reasonable dosages.

I admit - I have used clenbuterol hcl. Why would you not use thermogenics to reduce your cutting time by 20-30%?
Or in the case of dinitrophenol, by several months (so instead of being in a long grueling calorie cut for 1 year, you are in it for 4 months).

 

[TITUS]

I would 100% do a cycle, i think it changes you forever for the better, unless you are a baldcel weakcel.

 

[letsdoit]

Fin shuts the dht conversion and dht is necessary for overall mental health and sex life
Blasting roids shuts test production which is again necessary for overall well being so yeah fin and blasting are equal tbh both are fucking your hormones

Everything you said is true and i’m glad we can have an actual conversation about it, just fyi the guy in your avi has been on 1mg fin 3x a week since he was 22.

 

[5.5psl]

Everything you said is true and i’m glad we can have an actual conversation about it, just fyi the guy in your avi has been on 1mg fin 3x a week since he was 22.

Yeah salludon had started balding he might be on fin

 

[makeme183]

Testosterone levels will not stay the same after you quit and do a PCT so you will lose muscle mass.

But other non-steroid stimulants will give you permanent results with short cycles.

For example clenbuterol fat loss results are permanent if you don't pig out on food again.

DNP fat loss results are permanent if you don't pig out on food again.

Neither one will kill you if you stick to a safe dose.
Both have side effects - but neither one will kill you or damage you if you stick to reasonable dosages.

I admit - I have used clenbuterol hcl. Why would you not use thermogenics to reduce your cutting time by 20-30%?
Or in the case of dinitrophenol, by several months (so instead of being in a long grueling calorie cut for 1 year, you are in it for 4 months).

good info , but the thing is I don't have problem burning fat , I'm already 11% bf ,120 lbs at 5'5
I have been skinny all my life , can't put on weight even if I want to
to get an amazing body , you need some degree of muscle hypertrophy and definition as well ,otherwise people could just starve themselves at home without having to step foot in the gym

sarms are better IMO , just run low dose mk677, low dose lgd and low dose enclomiphene

do a 2-3 months cycle with a good low carb low sodium high protein diet and you're good

this isn't a bad idea actually , although mk677 isn't technically a SARM,since its not related to androgen

 

[Deleted member 17429]

My cycle was only 300 test. I did pct and lost even more hair but it came back after months. I lost most of my gains

meanwhile jay cutler is running grams of tren and still has most of his hair, lmao.

 

[Deleted member 17735]

Yes you will keep the new muscle fiber nuclei after you come off

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Testosterone levels will not stay the same after you quit and do a PCT so you will lose muscle mass.

But other non-steroid stimulants will give you permanent results with short cycles.

For example clenbuterol fat loss results are permanent if you don't pig out on food again.

DNP fat loss results are permanent if you don't pig out on food again.

Neither one will kill you if you stick to a safe dose.
Both have side effects - but neither one will kill you or damage you if you stick to reasonable dosages.

I admit - I have used clenbuterol hcl. Why would you not use thermogenics to reduce your cutting time by 20-30%?
Or in the case of dinitrophenol, by several months (so instead of being in a long grueling calorie cut for 1 year, you are in it for 4 months).

Dnp mogs t3 also mogs. Bodybuilders are retards and swallow 75 mch in one go of course it gives you palpitations Jfl you should be munching on a tab of t3 interspersedthroughout the day, I’m a rotter so I don’t mind this. But if wagie then atleast split it in half and drink it thrice a day if life gets busy

T3 is much safer than dnp which is also much much safer than clenbuterol

 

[Gandy]

Dnp mogs t3 also mogs. Bodybuilders are retards and swallow 75 mch in one go of course it gives you palpitations Jfl you should be munching on a tab of t3 interspersedthroughout the day, I’m a rotter so I don’t mind this. But if wagie then atleast split it in half and drink it thrice a day if life gets busy

T3 is much safer than dnp which is also much much safer than clenbuterol

I have recently looked into DNP and concluded it has a very good risk to reward ratio. It increases BMR so radically it's worth the minor side effects, and there are no dangers as long as the dose is kept low to medium.

And unlike clen, it doesn't have to be cycled, people have provenly used it for months on end with no issues.

I'll try to find a good source, I already have a source for good clenbuteron hydrochloride but as it increases BMR by just ~30% it's not the best of the best, it works but DNP is demonstrably better.

And nothing sucks more than being in an extended cut. Everyone wants a cut to be over as fast as possible. I've also done 1+ year natural cuts in the past, it makes life bleak and miserable.

 

[Mr manlet]

Your coach isn't wrong. You will always be bigger for life with just one cycle. Seen it with my mates.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I have recently looked into DNP and concluded it has a very good risk to reward ratio. It increases BMR so radically it's worth the minor side effects, and there are no dangers as long as the dose is kept low to medium.

And unlike clen, it doesn't have to be cycled, people have provenly used it for months on end with no issues.

I'll try to find a good source, I already have a source for good clenbuteron hydrochloride but as it increases BMR by just ~30% it's not the best of the best, it works but DNP is demonstrably better.

And nothing sucks more than being in an extended cut. Everyone wants a cut to be over as fast as possible. I've also done 1+ year natural cuts in the past, it makes life bleak and miserable.

Exactly, starving is a notmie meme. I mean if it was you who got fat out of your own sloth and gluttony in the first place I can see some argument why maybe natty cutting is better as it’ll teach you how to cut muh discipline and what not. But if you were forced to eat a certain food sleep less hours made obese by parents etc then starving for months on end is a fookinh g meme Which wrecks your t levels mood and hormones and you’re also likely to gain the fat back as your thyroid has now downregulated by quite a bit @Amnesia claims he eats only 1.2 k calories p day or he runs the risk of fat gain Jfl at dieters. Dieting is something you use to maintain fat after you become lean not force induce fat loss. Also clen is toxic and induce fibromyalgia in the heart .

Dnp guide btw:

DNP Musings of Conciliator - sharable

DNP: Musings of Conciliator Introduction DNP, chemical name 2,4-Dinitrophenol is sometimes used as a (very effective) fat burner by bodybuilders, other athletes, and even recreational lifters. There is one person who, over the years, has proven to have a wealth of knowledge on DNP. That person ...

docs.google.com

 

[anoncell]

It’s never one cycle bro, youll never be satisfied

 

[Mr manlet]

Finally someone else that understands the importance of DHT. DHT is the king sexual hormone

First month was meh, now I'm back to normal and have my hair.

I'd rot if I didn't take the chance.

I don't care it my dick shrinks I can't use a normal cucks condom anyways.

 

[makeme183]

Yes you will keep the new muscle fiber nuclei after you come off

I don't think roids can create new nuclei
it just makes existing muscles bigger
amount of nuclei you have is genetic

Your coach isn't wrong. You will always be bigger for life with just one cycle. Seen it with my mates.

which compound would you recommend ?

 

[Gandy]

Exactly, starving is a notmie meme. I mean if it was you who got fat out of your own sloth and gluttony in the first place I can see some argument why maybe natty cutting is better as it’ll teach you how to cut muh discipline and what not. But if you were forced to eat a certain food sleep less hours made obese by parents etc then starving for months on end is a fookinh g meme Which wrecks your t levels mood and hormones and you’re also likely to gain the fat back as your thyroid has now downregulated by quite a bit @Amnesia claims he eats only 1.2 k calories p day or he runs the risk of fat gain Jfl at dieters. Dieting is something you use to maintain fat after you become lean not force induce fat loss. Also clen is toxic and induce fibromyalgia in the heart .

Dnp guide btw:

DNP Musings of Conciliator - sharable

DNP: Musings of Conciliator Introduction DNP, chemical name 2,4-Dinitrophenol is sometimes used as a (very effective) fat burner by bodybuilders, other athletes, and even recreational lifters. There is one person who, over the years, has proven to have a wealth of knowledge on DNP. That person ...

docs.google.com

Conciliator is my source as well. I've been reading his DNP posts for a month now. I thought the source material would be too advanced for this forum but that's a great link to read.

The guy has photocopied all of the original DNP research papers he found in libraries and private foundations. Insane

 

[Mr manlet]

I don't think roids can create new nuclei
it just makes existing muscles bigger
amount of nuclei you have is genetic

which compound would you recommend ?

Didn't ask sry. I'm more concerned with hair and skin. I'm good looking enough to not need to be roid3d out to get attention.

I'd think hgh and test to to be safe.

 

[letsdoit]

Yeah salludon had started balding he might be on fin

Not might, he’s been on 1mg every day since he was 22.
Spoke with him last year and having a transformation similar to his currently

 

[5.5psl]

Not might, he’s been on 1mg every day since he was 22.
Spoke with him last year and having a transformation similar to his currently

You are also hard mewing and chin tucking ? Did you saw any result

 

[letsdoit]

You are also hard mewing and chin tucking ? Did you saw any result

Yes, seeing similar changes that he did, although I am chewing more than he did his first year. About 2-3 hours nightly

 

[5.5psl]

Yes, seeing similar changes that he did, although I am chewing more than he did his first year. About 2-3 hours nightly

What's your age ?
I tried mewing for 7-8 months wit full dedication nothing happened tbh

 

[leveruis]

It works as long as you don't get addicted but this forum is gonna cope and act like 12 weeks of 500 mg test is equivalent to 2 years of tren.

 

[letsdoit]

What's your age ?
I tried mewing for 7-8 months wit full dedication nothing happened tbh

20 years old, I followed the routine he sent me and posted, have to use the back third of the tongue and chew 2 hours a day. After 2 years then start bone smashing chin and zygos only for a year.

 

[longjohnmong]

can't put on weight even if I want to

How the fuck are people still saying shit like this? Bro, stop worrying about hormones and muscle and start worrying about your 80 IQ.

 

[letsdoit]

20 years old, I followed the routine he sent me and posted, have to use the back third of the tongue and chew 2 hours a day. After 2 years then start bone smashing chin and zygos only for a year.

How old are u?

 

[makeme183]

How the fuck are people still saying shit like this? Bro, stop worrying about hormones and muscle and start worrying about your 80 IQ.

my point was there's no fear of me becoming fat
some users were suggesting cutting agents to burn fat , so I said that
I need something to make my muscles reach my natty potential faster