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  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

 
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Never gonna happen lol.

Too many goals = keep spinning your wheels, never actually doing anything
Few but smart goals = Consistent focused effort which will actually give you real results

And you don't need lots of looksmaxxes to look good enough for women. You're aiming for too perfect.
 
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CharlesTheMartyr said:
As long as you are 4+PSL and vaguely NT you should be fine. There is no need to get all these surgeries

I want to at least have NORMAL craniofacial structures. 4 CENTImeters of maxillary advancement is needed just for me to have an AVERAGE maxilla projection. 1 CENTImeter of IPD widening is needed just for me to have an AVERAGE IPD.
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?



When will you stop making a post like this, it's like you have nothing to do with your life and keep making joke post and feel good when people comment on your thread "hahahah that is funny thecel"


Ur not doing anything don't cope
 
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Most guys on this forum would benefit greatly from TRP.
TRP doesn't deny looksmaxxing's effectiveness, in fact, they preach it themselves, but they also preach that being good looking simply enough, you have to be confident and talk with lots of women to get enough opportunities to get laid.
And they are realistic enough to tell you that there is no secret solution, that you have to looksmax and that you have to put in the effort to approach women in public.
 
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copingvolcel said:
Most guys on this forum would benefit greatly from TRP.
TRP doesn't deny looksmaxxing's effectiveness, in fact, they preach it themselves, but they also preach that being good looking simply enough, you have to be confident and talk with lots of women to get enough opportunities to get laid.
And they are realistic enough to tell you that there is no secret solution, that you have to looksmax and that you have to put in the effort to approach women in public.

To get women isn’t the whole reason I want surgeries.

If I get my maxilla moved forward by 50 mm; the 1st 40 mm is for health, women, friends, and success; and the next 10 mm mostly is for my satisfaction. If I get my IPD widened by 15 mm; the 1st 10 mm is for stereopsis, women, friends, and success; and the next 5 mm mostly is for my satisfaction.

I want to see GigaUltraChad in mirrors. I’d love it if I can touch my face and be amazed at its angularity and projection.

However, even if I weren’t concerned with having aesthetics just for my pleasure, it still’d be worth it to move the maxilla that far. If you’re going to get Le Fort, why only move it 15 mm to fix an underbite?—Why not go as far as possible (without making your appearance extreme)? Adding forward projection to a person’s maxilla at any point below its optimal projection gives the person higher quality of life. Go for optimum not bare minimum.
 
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copingvolcel said:
Most guys on this forum would benefit greatly from TRP.
TRP doesn't deny looksmaxxing's effectiveness, in fact, they preach it themselves, but they also preach that being good looking simply enough, you have to be confident and talk with lots of women to get enough opportunities to get laid.
And they are realistic enough to tell you that there is no secret solution, that you have to looksmax and that you have to put in the effort to approach women in public.
bro you're fucking retarded
thats all i have to say

you're beyond dumb if you take the redpill seriously
 
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AtlasTH said:
When will you stop making a post like this, it's like you have nothing to do with your life and keep making joke post and feel good when people comment on your thread "hahahah that is funny thecel"


Ur not doing anything don't cope
says the guy who unironically does lefort 3 :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:. you are doing an extrme surgery while telling others not to do extreme surgeries :lul: OldVirgin @OldVirgin
 
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imdo said:
Looks good
i need to do atleast half of this list aswell. having some asian genes is really beyond brutal and makes it very hard to ascend. only with extreme surgeries we can get anywhere
 
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copingvolcel said:
Never gonna happen lol.

Too many goals = keep spinning your wheels, never actually doing anything
Few but smart goals = Consistent focused effort which will actually give you real results

And you don't need lots of looksmaxxes to look good enough for women. You're aiming for too perfect.
You are a virgin why do you give advice on how to get laid lol
 
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ht-normie-ascending said:
You are a virgin why do you give advice on how to get laid lol
he is a redpill guy on a blackpill forum. no idea why this guy is trying to redpill us the whole time. bodybuilding.net would be a place a lot more fitting for him
 
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subhuman incel said:
i need to do atleast half of this list aswell. having some asian genes is really beyond brutal and makes it very hard to ascend. only with extreme surgeries we can get anywhere
honestly you’re not far off from caucasoid with similar coloring, splanchnocranium looks caucasoid to me
just the upper eye lid is what gave me that look, a simple blepharoplasty and more caucasoid infras could make you look more white
 
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subhuman incel said:
i need to do atleast half of this list aswell. having some asian genes is really beyond brutal and makes it very hard to ascend. only with extreme surgeries we can get anywhere

Cope. Alot of hapa are not ugly at alland has more SMV then asian. It's just because your hapa gene are subhuman
 
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subhuman incel said:
he is a redpill guy on a blackpill forum. no idea why this guy is trying to redpill us the whole time. bodybuilding.net would be a place a lot more fitting for him
6ft4 with decent face but holocaust body so assumes everybody elses issues are also easy fixes. Hate those people. “Bro look i ascended with gym and haircut, u dont need surgery”
 
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ht-normie-ascending said:
thecel @thecel you will never get OBO just wear sunglasses tbh jfl

There’s much more to it than just looking good to others:

thecel said:
If I get my IPD widened by 15 mm; the 1st 10 mm is for stereopsis, women, friends, and success; and the next 5 mm mostly is for my satisfaction.

thecel said:
I want to see GigaUltraChad in mirrors. I’d love it if I can touch my face and be amazed at its angularity and projection.

For my satisfaction too.

Hypothetically, if I didn’t care about looks at all, I’d still get OBO. Improved depth perception (stereopsis) is an acceptable (or should count as acceptable) reason for a low-IPD person to get OBO whether or not (s)he cares about looks.
 
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thecel said:
There’s much more to it than just looking good to others:





For my satisfaction too.

Hypothetically, if I didn’t care about looks at all, I’d still get OBO. Improved depth perception (stereopsis) is a valid reason for a low-IPD person to get OBO whether or not (s)he cares about looks.
Which surgeon has agreed to operate on you?
 
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thecel said:
There’s much more to it than just looking good to others:





For my satisfaction too.

Hypothetically, if I didn’t care about looks at all, I’d still get OBO. Improved depth perception (stereopsis) is a good reason for a low-IPD person to get OBO whether or not (s)he cares about looks.
how do you think your family and friends are gonna react if you appear infront of them with a completely different face :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:. or are you gonna move to another city or country and change your whole identity and start a new life (thats what i am planning to do :feelskek:) ?
 
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ht-normie-ascending said:
Which surgeon has agreed to operate on you?
thecel @thecel is so high iq he will create his own AI robot who will perform the surgery on him. the AI robot will be more accurate and precise than any surgeon on this world, he will exactly follow every little detail thecel tells him to do, surgeries are gonna be milimmeters exactly on point.
 
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subhuman incel said:
how do you think your family and friends are gonna react if you appear infront of them with a completely different face :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:. or are you gonna move to another city or country and change your whole identity and start a new life (thats what i am planning to do :feelskek:) ?

So what if my family and friends shake their heads at me? I won’t give a shit about it. These people are looking at a Gigachad. They might disapprove of my actions, but surely they’ll like what they see.
 
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How much money do you have saved? And how how much do you think all of this shit will cost? Judging from face value all of that aforementioned shit is high 5 figure ranges minimum.
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

seems legitimate
most importantly, good luck
hope you become a chang
 
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Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium
Wouldn't this cause empty space in the cranial vault?
 
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you forgot haplogroup bilateral osteotomy
 
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copingvolcel said:
Most guys on this forum would benefit greatly from TRP.
TRP doesn't deny looksmaxxing's effectiveness, in fact, they preach it themselves, but they also preach that being good looking simply enough, you have to be confident and talk with lots of women to get enough opportunities to get laid.
And they are realistic enough to tell you that there is no secret solution, that you have to looksmax and that you have to put in the effort to approach women in public.
what is TRP?
 
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or this

this your goal?
you have too much pfl increase 12.5 mm in your plan cause your pfl is never 21mm rather around 25-27
thecel said:
I want to at least have NORMAL craniofacial structures. 4 CENTImeters of maxillary advancement is needed just for me to have an AVERAGE maxilla projection.
nigga r u insane?
thecel said:
1 CENTImeter of IPD widening is needed just for me to have an AVERAGE IPD.
 
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copingvolcel said:
Too many goals = keep spinning your wheels, never actually doing anything
Few but smart goals = Consistent focused effort which will actually give you real results
actually imo really good suggestion.
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

you have a morph how this would potentially look like?
 
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sorrowfulsad said:
you have a morph how this would potentially look like?
but giga unrealistic
hard to even get one of the surgeries
our bro thecel @thecel will die on the surgery table
News article Incel tries to drastically transform his face
'He just wanted to be a white gigachad' his parents told us
 
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Gad said:
what is TRP?


Like I said before, guys who learn TRP and apply it by looksmaxxing and talking to many women tend to be the most successful with women. They get laid the most and they have the best relationships, the best career and they live their best life. They definitely don't spend most of their time on a forum, instead, they focus on their self improvement and they achieve their goals.

That's the difference between the red pill and the black pill. The black pill is an excuse for doing nothing while the red pill motivates men to improve themselves to get what they want from life. Black pilled men set their own limits, while red pilled men constantly seek to achieve their goals no matter how impossible the task may seem like.
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?


Sorry, i didnt see the tag in my notifications, i dont think it shows if i am edited in.

I remember seeing a picture/video of you and no way do you need most of those.

With these surgeries is that compounded will have a high risk of something going wrong aesthetically and functionally. Also the costs would be insane and finding a surgeon who is able and willing to do this.

Personally would work on the major failos and limit it to a handful of impactful surgeries.

This is more reasonable.

Also gymaxxing.


 
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copingvolcel said:
Black pilled men set their own limits, while red pilled men constantly seek to achieve their goals no matter how impossible the task may seem like.

“…no matter how impossible the task may seem like.” is a dumb approach to attain success. If the success chances are tiny, the costs outweigh the benefits. The odds of any incel getting a gf are never 0, but that doesn’t mean it’s worth it for everyone to try as hard as they can. At some point, it’s totally rational to say “,it’s over”, and to give up because it’s so damn unlikely to happen, ever.
 
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you just need monobloc + obo ngl...the narrow face u can use implants
 
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oh btw i need monobloc of 1,7cm advancement just to reach AVERAGE skull circunference, things looking bad for us thecel @thecel
 
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do you have the funds for all this?
 

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