My personal complete drugsstack plan (not the full looksmax plan) :

[Hernan]

Thread OST.(part of the greatest songs of all time);
​

So now that i'm gonna work for two whole ass months and shit i'm gathering money to either spend on this or spend or other things.

I know anavar and fin are both in there but i'm just thinking them over again so ignore that.
Normally i also wanted to later switch anavar with winny but thats a bit too risky for me since my hair is fragile and i'm a diffuse thinner
(way more annoying then norwooding imo).

The sauce;

Compound	Dosage
HGH	8 IU/day (4 IU morning, 4 IU evening)
IGF-1 LR3	100-150 mcg/day (subQ/IM)
IGF-1 DES	100-150 mcg/day (can be localized)
Testosterone Enanthate	250-300 mg/week
Anavar (Oxandrolone)	20-30 mg/day (oral)
Exemestane	12.5-25 mg every other day
Finasteride	0.5-1 mg/day

I'll also use TUDCA btw i just didnt add it cus its not a hormone.


estimates of height (AI):

Monthly Growth Projection​

(With open growth plates, perfect nutrition, and no plate fusion) (aka best case scenario.)

• Month 1: 1.5–2.0 cm
• Month 2: 1.5–2.0 cm
• Month 3: 1.0–1.5 cm
• Month 4: 0.8–1.2 cm
• Month 5: 0.5–1.0 cm
• Month 6: 0.3–0.8 cm

Total in 6 Months:​

• Realistic: 6–8 cm
• Optimistic (Perfect Conditions): 8–10 cm

---

Some things added:​

1. First 3 months = Best gains (HGH + IGF-1 synergy peaks).
2. Months 4–6 = Slowdown (growth plates thin, receptors desensitize).
3. Beyond 6 months? Gains drop to <0.5 cm/month (not worth the risks).

the estimated total price per month (AI):
~$600–$1,500/month.

i got a 5k+ budget atm and can hold for 3-5 months. This is excluding the equipment and tests but i'll have the money for that then.
estimates of gained advantages after 3-4 months:
• Height: +3-6 cm (with IGF-1)
• Jaw/Skull: Slight enhancement
• Muscle: +3-5 kg (lean)
• Fat Loss: 5-8% reduction

I'd be very satisfied with that.

Prices of the tests, minimal and all tests of relevance;

Category	Estimated Cost (€)
Essential Tests	€500–€820
(Minimum: €500, Maximum: €820)

Included Tests​

• IGF-1 (3x)
• Estradiol (E2) (3x)
• Liver (ALT/AST) (2x)
• Fasting Glucose (2x)
• Lipids (HDL/LDL) (1x)
• Total Testosterone (1x)
• DHT (optional, 1x)
• Bone Age X-ray (1x)

• Cheapest (€500–€600): Focus on IGF-1, E2, liver, and glucose.
• Full Panel (€700–€820): Includes DHT, lipids, and X-ray.

• Critical Tests: IGF-1 + E2 (growth tracking).
• Safety Tests: Liver + glucose (HGH/Anavar risks).
• Bone Age X-ray: ~€100–€150 (checks growth plate status).

Personally for me i'll probably only test what is absolutely necessary.
Almost 1k extra purely for tests is insane so either i'll just work or ask my parents for money or i wont use any (kidding)
and hopefully die which would be a blessing (not kidding).


Equipment costs for five months:

Item	Quantity	Cost (€)	Notes
Insulin Syringes (29-31G)	100–150 needles	€20–€40	For HGH/IGF-1 (daily injections).
3ml Syringes (23-25G)	30–50	€10–€20	For Test E (IM injections).
Alcohol Swabs	200–300 pads	€5–€15	Sterilization.
Sharps Container	1–2	€5–€10	Safe needle disposal.
Bacteriostatic Water	30–50 mL	€15–€30	For reconstituting HGH/peptides.
Vial Adapters	5–10	€10–€20	Easier peptide/HGH drawing.
Cooler Bag + Ice Packs	1 set	€10–€25	For transporting HGH/IGF-1.
Glucose Meter	1	€20–€50	Monitor HGH-induced insulin resistance.
TOTAAL		€95–€210

I'll calculate the best amounts to buy at once to minimize shipping costs once i'm sure of the sources.

A small edit: depending on my hairfall i'll either uppen finasteride dosages or i'll switch to dutasteride.

Ofcourse this just me, research and AI and i need you guys to be sure.
i'm gonna make another thread after being sure of f.e. PDO and reta etc. with the exact OST cus its in my top3 all time favs.

Tagging the smart guys:
@Jonasㅤㅤ @chadbeingmade @imontheloose @org3cel.RR @Orc

 

[Hernan]

could use 5mg long term like they did in the studies regarding height increases + you wont be messing up liver. tudca can only save u for some time till the oxandrolone catches up lmao

Yeah thats true.

Oxandrolone, an anabolic steroid, administered to patients with idiopathic growth failure in a dosage of 0.15-0.25 mg/kg·day, significantly stimulates immediate growth during the first 6 months of treatment and results in a greater height age Δ than bone age Δ during this interval.

Oh DAMN i never knew this. Thanks a lot for the advice man, i'll choose 5mg a day long term as the permanent dose thx a lot.

mirin but why not Dutasteride?

i've decided i will, i couldnt find a cheaper source but i got some now.

 

[LuhManiac]

Yeah thats true.

Oxandrolone, an anabolic steroid, administered to patients with idiopathic growth failure in a dosage of 0.15-0.25 mg/kg·day, significantly stimulates immediate growth during the first 6 months of treatment and results in a greater height age Δ than bone age Δ during this interval.

Oh DAMN i never knew this. Thanks a lot for the advice man, i'll choose 5mg a day long term as the permanent dose thx a lot.

i've decided i will, i couldnt find a cheaper source but i got some now.

You can get 1mgx100 Dutasteride Tabletts labtested from SSA for 16USD

 

[Hernan]

You can get 1mgx100 Dutasteride Tabletts labtested from SSA for 16USD

SSA? Pm me the source b.

 

[Dave1]

Yeah thats true.

Oxandrolone, an anabolic steroid, administered to patients with idiopathic growth failure in a dosage of 0.15-0.25 mg/kg·day, significantly stimulates immediate growth during the first 6 months of treatment and results in a greater height age Δ than bone age Δ during this interval.

Oh DAMN i never knew this. Thanks a lot for the advice man, i'll choose 5mg a day long term as the permanent dose thx a lot.

i've decided i will, i couldnt find a cheaper source but i got some now.

No problem

 

[Sachlichkeit]

Thread OST.(part of the greatest songs of all time);
​

So now that i'm gonna work for two whole ass months and shit i'm gathering money to either spend on this or spend or other things.

I know anavar and fin are both in there but i'm just thinking them over again so ignore that.
Normally i also wanted to later switch anavar with winny but thats a bit too risky for me since my hair is fragile and i'm a diffuse thinner
(way more annoying then norwooding imo).

The sauce;

Compound	Dosage
HGH	8 IU/day (4 IU morning, 4 IU evening)
IGF-1 LR3	100-150 mcg/day (subQ/IM)
IGF-1 DES	100-150 mcg/day (can be localized)
Testosterone Enanthate	250-300 mg/week
Anavar (Oxandrolone)	20-30 mg/day (oral)
Exemestane	12.5-25 mg every other day
Finasteride	0.5-1 mg/day

I'll also use TUDCA btw i just didnt add it cus its not a hormone.


estimates of height (AI):

Monthly Growth Projection​

(With open growth plates, perfect nutrition, and no plate fusion) (aka best case scenario.)

• Month 1: 1.5–2.0 cm
• Month 2: 1.5–2.0 cm
• Month 3: 1.0–1.5 cm
• Month 4: 0.8–1.2 cm
• Month 5: 0.5–1.0 cm
• Month 6: 0.3–0.8 cm

Total in 6 Months:​

• Realistic: 6–8 cm
• Optimistic (Perfect Conditions): 8–10 cm

---

Some things added:​

1. First 3 months = Best gains (HGH + IGF-1 synergy peaks).
2. Months 4–6 = Slowdown (growth plates thin, receptors desensitize).
3. Beyond 6 months? Gains drop to <0.5 cm/month (not worth the risks).

the estimated total price per month (AI):
~$600–$1,500/month.

i got a 5k+ budget atm and can hold for 3-5 months. This is excluding the equipment and tests but i'll have the money for that then.
estimates of gained advantages after 3-4 months:
• Height: +3-6 cm (with IGF-1)
• Jaw/Skull: Slight enhancement
• Muscle: +3-5 kg (lean)
• Fat Loss: 5-8% reduction

I'd be very satisfied with that.

Prices of the tests, minimal and all tests of relevance;

Category	Estimated Cost (€)
Essential Tests	€500–€820
(Minimum: €500, Maximum: €820)

Included Tests​

• IGF-1 (3x)
• Estradiol (E2) (3x)
• Liver (ALT/AST) (2x)
• Fasting Glucose (2x)
• Lipids (HDL/LDL) (1x)
• Total Testosterone (1x)
• DHT (optional, 1x)
• Bone Age X-ray (1x)

• Cheapest (€500–€600): Focus on IGF-1, E2, liver, and glucose.
• Full Panel (€700–€820): Includes DHT, lipids, and X-ray.

• Critical Tests: IGF-1 + E2 (growth tracking).
• Safety Tests: Liver + glucose (HGH/Anavar risks).
• Bone Age X-ray: ~€100–€150 (checks growth plate status).

Personally for me i'll probably only test what is absolutely necessary.
Almost 1k extra purely for tests is insane so either i'll just work or ask my parents for money or i wont use any (kidding)
and hopefully die which would be a blessing (not kidding).


Equipment costs for five months:

Item	Quantity	Cost (€)	Notes
Insulin Syringes (29-31G)	100–150 needles	€20–€40	For HGH/IGF-1 (daily injections).
3ml Syringes (23-25G)	30–50	€10–€20	For Test E (IM injections).
Alcohol Swabs	200–300 pads	€5–€15	Sterilization.
Sharps Container	1–2	€5–€10	Safe needle disposal.
Bacteriostatic Water	30–50 mL	€15–€30	For reconstituting HGH/peptides.
Vial Adapters	5–10	€10–€20	Easier peptide/HGH drawing.
Cooler Bag + Ice Packs	1 set	€10–€25	For transporting HGH/IGF-1.
Glucose Meter	1	€20–€50	Monitor HGH-induced insulin resistance.
TOTAAL		€95–€210

I'll calculate the best amounts to buy at once to minimize shipping costs once i'm sure of the sources.

A small edit: depending on my hairfall i'll either uppen finasteride dosages or i'll switch to dutasteride.

Ofcourse this just me, research and AI and i need you guys to be sure.
i'm gonna make another thread after being sure of f.e. PDO and reta etc. with the exact OST cus its in my top3 all time favs.

Tagging the smart guys:
@Jonasㅤㅤ @chadbeingmade @imontheloose @org3cel.RR @Orc

when are you starting your cycle? Have you started already? Are you still pinning 3 different types of IGF?

 

[Hernan]

when are you starting your cycle?

At around 18 so I’d say January best case.

Have you started already? Are you still pinning 3 different types of IGF?

No.

 

[6´3 LTN]

What did you end up doing?

 

[Sachlichkeit]

You’re waiting til next year? What’s the cycle look like currently?

 

[Hernan]

What did you end up doing?

read the thread maybe i havent done anything yet.

You’re waiting til next year? What’s the cycle look like currently?

yeah cus my parents actively search my room since i've been smoking a disgusting amount of packs.
the only change is igf-1 L3 --> lanthus insuline and i'm still considering "testing" DES.

 

[iblamegenetics7681]

all that just to ruin your health die very early and not even be taller than me lol, keep coping manlet

 

[Hernan]

all that just to ruin your health die very early

perfect since i dont want to live a long life.

and not even be taller than me lol

in your dreams, i'll ask my stinking rich mother's half of the family for money for some 'house' or something and i'll get an L.L. .

, keep coping manlet

iblamegenetics7681 i hardly believe that.​

 

[iblamegenetics7681]

perfect since i dont want to live a long life.

in your dreams, i'll ask my stinking rich mother's half of the family for money for some 'house' or something and i'll get an L.L. .

iblamegenetics7681 i hardly believe that.​

cope

 

[Sachlichkeit]

the only change is igf-1 L3 --> lanthus insuline and i'm still considering "testing" DES.

good because LR3 would have given you big organs for no reason

 

[ybuyhgui]

Thread OST.(part of the greatest songs of all time);
​

So now that i'm gonna work for two whole ass months and shit i'm gathering money to either spend on this or spend or other things.

I know anavar and fin are both in there but i'm just thinking them over again so ignore that.
Normally i also wanted to later switch anavar with winny but thats a bit too risky for me since my hair is fragile and i'm a diffuse thinner
(way more annoying then norwooding imo).

The sauce;

Compound	Dosage
HGH	8 IU/day (4 IU morning, 4 IU evening)
IGF-1 LR3	100-150 mcg/day (subQ/IM)
IGF-1 DES	100-150 mcg/day (can be localized)
Testosterone Enanthate	250-300 mg/week
Anavar (Oxandrolone)	20-30 mg/day (oral)
Exemestane	12.5-25 mg every other day
Finasteride	0.5-1 mg/day

I'll also use TUDCA btw i just didnt add it cus its not a hormone.


estimates of height (AI):

Monthly Growth Projection​

(With open growth plates, perfect nutrition, and no plate fusion) (aka best case scenario.)

• Month 1: 1.5–2.0 cm
• Month 2: 1.5–2.0 cm
• Month 3: 1.0–1.5 cm
• Month 4: 0.8–1.2 cm
• Month 5: 0.5–1.0 cm
• Month 6: 0.3–0.8 cm

Total in 6 Months:​

• Realistic: 6–8 cm
• Optimistic (Perfect Conditions): 8–10 cm

---

Some things added:​

1. First 3 months = Best gains (HGH + IGF-1 synergy peaks).
2. Months 4–6 = Slowdown (growth plates thin, receptors desensitize).
3. Beyond 6 months? Gains drop to <0.5 cm/month (not worth the risks).

the estimated total price per month (AI):
~$600–$1,500/month.

i got a 5k+ budget atm and can hold for 3-5 months. This is excluding the equipment and tests but i'll have the money for that then.
estimates of gained advantages after 3-4 months:
• Height: +3-6 cm (with IGF-1)
• Jaw/Skull: Slight enhancement
• Muscle: +3-5 kg (lean)
• Fat Loss: 5-8% reduction

I'd be very satisfied with that.

Prices of the tests, minimal and all tests of relevance;

Category	Estimated Cost (€)
Essential Tests	€500–€820
(Minimum: €500, Maximum: €820)

Included Tests​

• IGF-1 (3x)
• Estradiol (E2) (3x)
• Liver (ALT/AST) (2x)
• Fasting Glucose (2x)
• Lipids (HDL/LDL) (1x)
• Total Testosterone (1x)
• DHT (optional, 1x)
• Bone Age X-ray (1x)

• Cheapest (€500–€600): Focus on IGF-1, E2, liver, and glucose.
• Full Panel (€700–€820): Includes DHT, lipids, and X-ray.

• Critical Tests: IGF-1 + E2 (growth tracking).
• Safety Tests: Liver + glucose (HGH/Anavar risks).
• Bone Age X-ray: ~€100–€150 (checks growth plate status).

Personally for me i'll probably only test what is absolutely necessary.
Almost 1k extra purely for tests is insane so either i'll just work or ask my parents for money or i wont use any (kidding)
and hopefully die which would be a blessing (not kidding).


Equipment costs for five months:

Item	Quantity	Cost (€)	Notes
Insulin Syringes (29-31G)	100–150 needles	€20–€40	For HGH/IGF-1 (daily injections).
3ml Syringes (23-25G)	30–50	€10–€20	For Test E (IM injections).
Alcohol Swabs	200–300 pads	€5–€15	Sterilization.
Sharps Container	1–2	€5–€10	Safe needle disposal.
Bacteriostatic Water	30–50 mL	€15–€30	For reconstituting HGH/peptides.
Vial Adapters	5–10	€10–€20	Easier peptide/HGH drawing.
Cooler Bag + Ice Packs	1 set	€10–€25	For transporting HGH/IGF-1.
Glucose Meter	1	€20–€50	Monitor HGH-induced insulin resistance.
TOTAAL		€95–€210

I'll calculate the best amounts to buy at once to minimize shipping costs once i'm sure of the sources.

A small edit: depending on my hairfall i'll either uppen finasteride dosages or i'll switch to dutasteride.

Ofcourse this just me, research and AI and i need you guys to be sure.
i'm gonna make another thread after being sure of f.e. PDO and reta etc. with the exact OST cus its in my top3 all time favs.

Tagging the smart guys:
@Jonasㅤㅤ @chadbeingmade @imontheloose @org3cel.RR @Orc

in what universe will you grow an inch per month lmao