My Realistic Surgery Plan

Calloused

Calloused

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To Start This Off...
So before I even put any current pics of myself, ive already done a lot to improve my looks already.
I started off my journey as a LLTN... Right now, I would personally rate myself as a solid MTN, maybe on a good
day HMTN if im lucky. But here are some pictures from before:

View attachment 5374556View attachment 5374557 IMG 9432
Yes, absolutely fucking horrendous im aware. All three of those pictures are from when I was aprox 16.5 y/o.
Now im 18 y/o, here are some current pictures along with videos.


IMG 1176
IMG 1175


This one below I feel is my best due to MT1 along with gymmaxxing so take
with a grain of salt:
IMG 0551


My first surgery, leading to reconstructive rhino and others.
Okay so long story short. I got into a retarded ass fight with this fat ass guy, we fought for like 4 minutes before
he finally landed his first decent shot on me which broke my nose and resulted in a bilateral nasal fracture along with a deviated septum.
I went to my local ENT and had a closed nasal reduction, this ultimately resulted in a failure as my septum shifted back
into a deviated position. Nose tape pic below:
IMG 0478

So I went back to my surgeon and now I have a scheduled reconstructive rhinoplasty for late August. I was talking to my
surgeon about adding cosmetic aspects along with the reconstruction and he confirmed that he would be willing to go forward with it.
The main thing im focused on is the straightness of course, like I had before the fight but also the width and bulbous tip im cursed with.
I also asked about a buccal fat removal procedure, aswell as a commissuroplasty. During my consolation he did confirm that he can perform all of these, just not at the same time, he said he didn't want to risk the buccal removal due to the trauma my nose has to go through or something like that during the rhino, which sucks because I could avoid alot of fees combing both procedures into one surgery. He did tell me that the commissuroplasty is a simple in office procedure he can perform in less than 90 minutes. This is a W so I don't have to pay for even more operating rooms fees and shit.

Orthodontics.

So I haven't been to an ortho yet but my palate is very visibly narrow, which is also reflected in my mid-face including my zygos
and overall maxillary width. I also have a pretty moderate overbite but I don't know if it's severe enough for BSSO or a similar surgery.
Palate Pics:

IMG 1129 IMG 1128
Im assuming I could get approved for MARPE relatively easy due to the overall narrowness but that shit is gonna be hella expense out of pocket

Extras.

As presented in my pics. I struggle with pretty low dimo. The only time it was decent was when I was in the gym but it wasn't even where I wanted it to be then. Im not that knowlagable with stacks or pharmaceuticals but I do want to hop on some from of test. If anyone has any info for me about it or recommendations please lmk aswell as reputable sources.

:feelswhy:Overall with all of this, what PSL do you think I could reach, and would all of this even help that much or am I hard capped MTN:feelswhy:
 
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I fucked this formatting up so bad here are the before pics IMG 0196 IMG 0165
 
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To Start This Off...
So before I even put any current pics of myself, ive already done a lot to improve my looks already.
I started off my journey as a LLTN... Right now, I would personally rate myself as a solid MTN, maybe on a good
day HMTN if im lucky. But here are some pictures from before:

View attachment 5374556View attachment 5374557View attachment 5374561
Yes, absolutely fucking horrendous im aware. All three of those pictures are from when I was aprox 16.5 y/o.
Now im 18 y/o, here are some current pictures along with videos.


View attachment 5374572View attachment 5374581
View attachment 5374587
View attachment 5374591
This one below I feel is my best due to MT1 along with gymmaxxing so take
with a grain of salt:
View attachment 5374558


My first surgery, leading to reconstructive rhino and others.
Okay so long story short. I got into a retarded ass fight with this fat ass guy, we fought for like 4 minutes before
he finally landed his first decent shot on me which broke my nose and resulted in a bilateral nasal fracture along with a deviated septum.
I went to my local ENT and had a closed nasal reduction, this ultimately resulted in a failure as my septum shifted back
into a deviated position. Nose tape pic below:
View attachment 5374596

So I went back to my surgeon and now I have a scheduled reconstructive rhinoplasty for late August. I was talking to my
surgeon about adding cosmetic aspects along with the reconstruction and he confirmed that he would be willing to go forward with it.
The main thing im focused on is the straightness of course, like I had before the fight but also the width and bulbous tip im cursed with.
I also asked about a buccal fat removal procedure, aswell as a commissuroplasty. During my consolation he did confirm that he can perform all of these, just not at the same time, he said he didn't want to risk the buccal removal due to the trauma my nose has to go through or something like that during the rhino, which sucks because I could avoid alot of fees combing both procedures into one surgery. He did tell me that the commissuroplasty is a simple in office procedure he can perform in less than 90 minutes. This is a W so I don't have to pay for even more operating rooms fees and shit.

Orthodontics.

So I haven't been to an ortho yet but my palate is very visibly narrow, which is also reflected in my mid-face including my zygos
and overall maxillary width. I also have a pretty moderate overbite but I don't know if it's severe enough for BSSO or a similar surgery.
Palate Pics:

View attachment 5374560View attachment 5374559
Im assuming I could get approved for MARPE relatively easy due to the overall narrowness but that shit is gonna be hella expense out of pocket

Extras.

As presented in my pics. I struggle with pretty low dimo. The only time it was decent was when I was in the gym but it wasn't even where I wanted it to be then. Im not that knowlagable with stacks or pharmaceuticals but I do want to hop on some from of test. If anyone has any info for me about it or recommendations please lmk aswell as reputable sources.

:feelswhy:Overall with all of this, what PSL do you think I could reach, and would all of this even help that much or am I hard capped MTN:feelswhy:
sexy ass nihga
 
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bump this was somewhat high effort
 
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Multi segment lefort > MARPE if you want to avoid nasal expansion
 
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mirin 🤩
 
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I'd go multi segment lefort again unless you have a small nasal base and bad breathing
I never Heard about multi segment Lefort, does It give good results?
 
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To Start This Off...
So before I even put any current pics of myself, ive already done a lot to improve my looks already.
I started off my journey as a LLTN... Right now, I would personally rate myself as a solid MTN, maybe on a good
day HMTN if im lucky. But here are some pictures from before:

View attachment 5374556View attachment 5374557View attachment 5374561
Yes, absolutely fucking horrendous im aware. All three of those pictures are from when I was aprox 16.5 y/o.
Now im 18 y/o, here are some current pictures along with videos.


View attachment 5374572View attachment 5374581
View attachment 5374587
View attachment 5374591
This one below I feel is my best due to MT1 along with gymmaxxing so take
with a grain of salt:
View attachment 5374558


My first surgery, leading to reconstructive rhino and others.
Okay so long story short. I got into a retarded ass fight with this fat ass guy, we fought for like 4 minutes before
he finally landed his first decent shot on me which broke my nose and resulted in a bilateral nasal fracture along with a deviated septum.
I went to my local ENT and had a closed nasal reduction, this ultimately resulted in a failure as my septum shifted back
into a deviated position. Nose tape pic below:
View attachment 5374596

So I went back to my surgeon and now I have a scheduled reconstructive rhinoplasty for late August. I was talking to my
surgeon about adding cosmetic aspects along with the reconstruction and he confirmed that he would be willing to go forward with it.
The main thing im focused on is the straightness of course, like I had before the fight but also the width and bulbous tip im cursed with.
I also asked about a buccal fat removal procedure, aswell as a commissuroplasty. During my consolation he did confirm that he can perform all of these, just not at the same time, he said he didn't want to risk the buccal removal due to the trauma my nose has to go through or something like that during the rhino, which sucks because I could avoid alot of fees combing both procedures into one surgery. He did tell me that the commissuroplasty is a simple in office procedure he can perform in less than 90 minutes. This is a W so I don't have to pay for even more operating rooms fees and shit.

Orthodontics.

So I haven't been to an ortho yet but my palate is very visibly narrow, which is also reflected in my mid-face including my zygos
and overall maxillary width. I also have a pretty moderate overbite but I don't know if it's severe enough for BSSO or a similar surgery.
Palate Pics:

View attachment 5374560View attachment 5374559
Im assuming I could get approved for MARPE relatively easy due to the overall narrowness but that shit is gonna be hella expense out of pocket

Extras.

As presented in my pics. I struggle with pretty low dimo. The only time it was decent was when I was in the gym but it wasn't even where I wanted it to be then. Im not that knowlagable with stacks or pharmaceuticals but I do want to hop on some from of test. If anyone has any info for me about it or recommendations please lmk aswell as reputable sources.

:feelswhy:Overall with all of this, what PSL do you think I could reach, and would all of this even help that much or am I hard capped MTN:feelswhy:
mirin bruv

what did u do to ascend? apart from rhino ofc
 
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To Start This Off...
So before I even put any current pics of myself, ive already done a lot to improve my looks already.
I started off my journey as a LLTN... Right now, I would personally rate myself as a solid MTN, maybe on a good
day HMTN if im lucky. But here are some pictures from before:

View attachment 5374556View attachment 5374557View attachment 5374561
Yes, absolutely fucking horrendous im aware. All three of those pictures are from when I was aprox 16.5 y/o.
Now im 18 y/o, here are some current pictures along with videos.


View attachment 5374572View attachment 5374581
View attachment 5374587
View attachment 5374591
This one below I feel is my best due to MT1 along with gymmaxxing so take
with a grain of salt:
View attachment 5374558


My first surgery, leading to reconstructive rhino and others.
Okay so long story short. I got into a retarded ass fight with this fat ass guy, we fought for like 4 minutes before
he finally landed his first decent shot on me which broke my nose and resulted in a bilateral nasal fracture along with a deviated septum.
I went to my local ENT and had a closed nasal reduction, this ultimately resulted in a failure as my septum shifted back
into a deviated position. Nose tape pic below:
View attachment 5374596

So I went back to my surgeon and now I have a scheduled reconstructive rhinoplasty for late August. I was talking to my
surgeon about adding cosmetic aspects along with the reconstruction and he confirmed that he would be willing to go forward with it.
The main thing im focused on is the straightness of course, like I had before the fight but also the width and bulbous tip im cursed with.
I also asked about a buccal fat removal procedure, aswell as a commissuroplasty. During my consolation he did confirm that he can perform all of these, just not at the same time, he said he didn't want to risk the buccal removal due to the trauma my nose has to go through or something like that during the rhino, which sucks because I could avoid alot of fees combing both procedures into one surgery. He did tell me that the commissuroplasty is a simple in office procedure he can perform in less than 90 minutes. This is a W so I don't have to pay for even more operating rooms fees and shit.

Orthodontics.

So I haven't been to an ortho yet but my palate is very visibly narrow, which is also reflected in my mid-face including my zygos
and overall maxillary width. I also have a pretty moderate overbite but I don't know if it's severe enough for BSSO or a similar surgery.
Palate Pics:

View attachment 5374560View attachment 5374559
Im assuming I could get approved for MARPE relatively easy due to the overall narrowness but that shit is gonna be hella expense out of pocket

Extras.

As presented in my pics. I struggle with pretty low dimo. The only time it was decent was when I was in the gym but it wasn't even where I wanted it to be then. Im not that knowlagable with stacks or pharmaceuticals but I do want to hop on some from of test. If anyone has any info for me about it or recommendations please lmk aswell as reputable sources.

:feelswhy:Overall with all of this, what PSL do you think I could reach, and would all of this even help that much or am I hard capped MTN:feelswhy:
thats why vitruvian men grapple and not strike
knights and samurais would use weapons instead of fists and chins, grappling would appear only by very close combat situations
 
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thats why vitruvian men grapple and not strike
knights and samurais would use weapons instead of fists and chins, grappling would appear only by very close combat situations
agreed, it was a mutual friendly fight boxing only, i’m trained in mma. if it was mma style i would have killed him
 
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faster and more accurate results than marpe
I was thinking about getting FME and decomp before surgery, do you think multi segment is better than ALL?
 
U still didn't answer my question :feelswhy:
sorry bro, i think most was just late puberty but for acne i did accutane i also started keeping proper tongue posture and breathing through my nose only, i was a chronic mouth breather. i also lost some weight and started getting a better diet and also drinking a fuck ton of milk like 4 gallons a week
 
Mirin
 
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dnr+wont happen
 

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