NCT is caused by uneven/asymmetrical palate

[Deleted member 30008]

I have posted about negative canthal tilt before and people said that bad forward growth/genetics are the main reason of it.

I think that forward growth, maxilla development or cheekbones can determine someone's eye shape, but not canthal tilt

I noticed, that one thing everyone (or at least majority) with nct have in common in uneven palate. Look at Sam Dezz, good forward growth, but he has NCT. and now look at his smile, his teeth are shifted on right (more supported side).

Vinnie has the same issue

Hell, even their right nostril is more "upturned" compared to left.

Guessing that their left side of palate is high arched (well since it's like that for me) so basically it's more droopy and less supported.

Basically bad tongue/body posture in early childhood cause all of these cuz one side is simply not getting enough support.

In my childhood photos I had neutral canthal tilt, but then for some reason I kept tilting my head on right side
thus applying less force on undeveloped.

Solution: no fucking clue

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Bro stop overthinking

All is genetic

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Bro stop overthinking

All is genetic

its both brocel but largely genetic

 

[Deleted member 24789]

its both brocel but largely genetic

Also Sean O'pry has a narrow palate


And look at him

 

[Deleted member 28691]

Well, somehow my right eye is the one thats droopier then the left.

And my right side of upper palate is a bit high too.

Even though i slept on my right side.

BUT when i look at passport pics of me and my father i have the exact same eye tilt as him.

So, it's genetic bruh.

 

[gribsufer1]

assymetrical nct is caused by assymetrical maxilla

 

[gribsufer1]

Well, somehow my right eye is the one thats droopier then the left.

And my right side of upper palate is a bit high too.

Even though i slept on my right side.

BUT when i look at passport pics of me and my father i have the exact same eye tilt as him.

So, it's genetic bruh.

or u both sleep on right side

 

[Deleted member 24789]

assymetrical nct is caused by assymetrical maxilla

Cope
Its caused by birthpill

 

[Deleted member 30008]

Bro stop overthinking

All is genetic

And how does genetics explain change in my canthal tilt throughout childhood

Like why would my left just suddenly decide to become more droopy out of nowhere

 

[Deleted member 28691]

assymetrical nct is caused by assymetrical maxilla

No, when i was a kid i had the same eye tilt and even slight ptosis on my right eye as it is now.

It's all genetics lol.

 

[Deleted member 30008]

No, when i was a kid i had the same eye tilt and even slight ptosis on my right eye as it is now.

It's all genetics lol.

If it's all genetics then it doesn't make any sense, both my parents have neutral canthal tilt and supported under eye area.
Well fuck I might be adopted who knows

 

[Deleted member 28691]

If it's all genetics then it doesn't make any sense, both my parents have neutral canthal tilt and supported under eye area.
Well fuck I might be adopted who knows

No, you inherit the genes of your parents who in turn inherit the genes of their parents.

Someone in the family tree had this and you got this.

It's genetics.

 

[Deleted member 30008]

No, you inherit the genes of your parents who in turn inherit the genes of their parents.

Someone in the family tree had this and you got this.

It's genetics.

I checked all my grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, siblings and I am the only one with nct
Guess I really won the genetic lottery, chances were so small

 

[wonderwhy]

I have posted about negative canthal tilt before and people said that bad forward growth/genetics are the main reason of it.

I think that forward growth, maxilla development or cheekbones can determine someone's eye shape, but not canthal tilt

I noticed, that one thing everyone (or at least majority) with nct have in common in uneven palate. Look at Sam Dezz, good forward growth, but he has NCT. and now look at his smile, his teeth are shifted on right (more supported side).

Vinnie has the same issue

Hell, even their right nostril is more "upturned" compared to left.

Guessing that their left side of palate is high arched (well since it's like that for me) so basically it's more droopy and less supported.

Basically bad tongue/body posture in early childhood cause all of these cuz one side is simply not getting enough support.

In my childhood photos I had neutral canthal tilt, but then for some reason I kept tilting my head on right side
thus applying less force on undeveloped.

Solution: no fucking clue

it's genetics I used to cope as well , it's not a big failo as people say here as long it's not severe then you'll be ok having with scleral show is death tier I have that but I'm bonesmashing my infras to fix scleral show also pfl is more important

 

[Deleted member 30008]

it's genetics I used to cope as well , it's not a big failo as people say here as long it's not severe then you'll be ok having with scleral show is death tier I have that but I'm bonesmashing my infras to fix scleral show also pfl is more important

Which surgeries can fix nct?

 

[wonderwhy]

Which surgeries can fix nct?

canthoplasty

 

[GreenRay88]

No, when i was a kid i had the same eye tilt and even slight ptosis on my right eye as it is now.

It's all genetics lol.

It's not all genetic...

 

[GreenRay88]

I have posted about negative canthal tilt before and people said that bad forward growth/genetics are the main reason of it.

I think that forward growth, maxilla development or cheekbones can determine someone's eye shape, but not canthal tilt

I noticed, that one thing everyone (or at least majority) with nct have in common in uneven palate. Look at Sam Dezz, good forward growth, but he has NCT. and now look at his smile, his teeth are shifted on right (more supported side).

Vinnie has the same issue

Hell, even their right nostril is more "upturned" compared to left.

Guessing that their left side of palate is high arched (well since it's like that for me) so basically it's more droopy and less supported.

Basically bad tongue/body posture in early childhood cause all of these cuz one side is simply not getting enough support.

In my childhood photos I had neutral canthal tilt, but then for some reason I kept tilting my head on right side
thus applying less force on undeveloped.

Solution: no fucking clue

Don't listen to the people that say it's all genetic although you cannot deny the roles genetics play. My NCT is worse on my right side then on my left side due to my right cheekbone being placed lower then my left cheekbone. I believe this is due to the fact that my left hip is higher placed then my right hip and what I'm planning on doing is mewing evenly so that the asymmetry doesn't get any worse along with thumbpulling to hopefully push my right cheekbone out.

 

[Deleted member 30008]

Don't listen to the people that say it's all genetic although you cannot deny the roles genetics play. My NCT is worse on my right side then on my left side due to my right cheekbone being placed lower then my left cheekbone. I believe this is due to the fact that my left hip is higher placed then my right hip and what I'm planning on doing is mewing evenly so that the asymmetry doesn't get any worse along with thumbpulling to hopefully push my right cheekbone out.

I agree, my whole right side of face is higher than left. Nostril, eyes, cheekbones, eyebrows hell even HAIRLINE. I can't believe that all of this is just coincidence and that my left eye is naturally set lower due to "genetics". It's 99% because my palate is asymmetrical and thus my maxilla too

 

[Deleted member 19766]

how would one go about reversing environmentally-caused NCT then?

 

[Deleted member 30008]

how would one go about reversing environmentally-caused NCT then?

I believe fixing asymmetrical palate can help with that, thumbpulling or palate expander may work, maybe mewing too

 

[AspiringMogger]

how would one go about reversing environmentally-caused NCT then?

Impossible. When it’s already set in stones past puberty you would need canthoplasty

 

[St.TikTokcel]

how would one go about reversing environmentally-caused NCT then?

Surgery

 

[Deleted member 19766]

Surgery

Impossible. When it’s already set in stones past puberty you would need canthoplasty

I believe fixing asymmetrical palate can help with that, thumbpulling or palate expander may work, maybe mewing too

Thoughts on negative hooding? I think this NCT being environmental thing is true and a big step forward for eye area ascension. One of the few things that stump me though is negative hooding, like what Tom Brady has. Is this normal and natural, can it be environmental or is it purely genetic and fine?

 

[Deleted member 30008]

Impossible. When it’s already set in stones past puberty you would need canthoplasty

Thoughts on negative hooding? I think this NCT being environmental thing is true and a big step forward for eye area ascension. One of the few things that stump me though is negative hooding, like what Tom Brady has. Is this normal and natural, can it be environmental or is it purely genetic and fine?

I have negative hooding only on my right eye, (more supported one) it's not that bad tbh, nct + scleral show is more of a problem


Yeah man idk about others but my ncr is definitely environmental, like mewing/tongue posture may be cope after 12-16-18 as people say here but it plays a big role during our childhood and the fact that tongue was pressing on my right side all that time and it's most supported one makes perfect sense to me

 

[Deleted member 19766]

Thoughts on negative hooding? I think this NCT being environmental thing is true and a big step forward for eye area ascension. One of the few things that stump me though is negative hooding, like what Tom Brady has. Is this normal and natural, can it be environmental or is it purely genetic and fine?

@tents

 

[Deleted member 18879]

I would say negative hooding is almost completely genetic

 

[Deleted member 19766]

I have negative hooding only on my right eye, (more supported one) it's not that bad tbh, nct + scleral show is more of a problem


Yeah man idk about others but my ncr is definitely environmental, like mewing/tongue posture may be cope after 12-16-18 as people say here but it plays a big role during our childhood and the fact that tongue was pressing on my right side all that time and it's most supported one makes perfect sense to me

is negative hooding normal and natural/genetic tho or do u think it can be environmental like the position of the supras creating it

I agree, my whole right side of face is higher than left. Nostril, eyes, cheekbones, eyebrows hell even HAIRLINE. I can't believe that all of this is just coincidence and that my left eye is naturally set lower due to "genetics". It's 99% because my palate is asymmetrical and thus my maxilla too

ok I was with you until you mentioned hairline I mean how the fuck?? at that point your entire skull has to be asymmetric right? I mean some people on .org have mentioned that that's a thing before so idk but tbh I never thought about it jfl. we need to figure this shit out more and fix it!

I believe fixing asymmetrical palate can help with that, thumbpulling or palate expander may work, maybe mewing too

just a normal palate expander? wouldn't you need MSE or something you think to expand the maxillary palate or do you really think just widening the teeth palate would help it?

Impossible. When it’s already set in stones past puberty you would need canthoplasty

Surgery

I have PCT I just am pretty sure I had even more as a kid so idk if it'd be worth it. besides, if NCT is partially environment and I had more as a kid and my case of less of it were environmental then wouldn't that be ignoring the root cause of it, which is apparently the palate? wouldn't mse or something be a better fix?

 

[Deleted member 19766]

I would say negative hooding is almost completely genetic

what do you think of OP mentioning everything, even his HAIRLINE being asymmetric because that to me makes no sense and would signify a goddamn skull asymmetry or some shit idk. also what do you plan on doing if anything to fix your environmentally caused NCT?

 

[Deleted member 18879]

what do you think of OP mentioning everything, even his HAIRLINE being asymmetric because that to me makes no sense and would signify a goddamn skull asymmetry or some shit idk. also what do you plan on doing if anything to fix your environmentally caused NCT?

Hairline is definitely genetic, but ofc influenced by hormones which respond to the organism's genes

as for my environmentally caused NCT, i think it is almost impossible to fix, can only mask with LF1 to decrease scleral show and infraorbital saddlebag implants to change outer canthus

 

[Deleted member 19766]

Hairline is definitely genetic, but ofc influenced by hormones which respond to the organism's genes

as for my environmentally caused NCT, i think it is almost impossible to fix, can only mask with LF1 to decrease scleral show and infraorbital saddlebag implants to change outer canthus

so you think expanding the palate like op suggested would be useless? mse is cope for fixing it?

 

[agoostis]

it’s genetic bro

get canthoplasty

 

[Soalian]

it’s genetic bro

get canthoplasty

From most listings about the surgical interventions from the specialists and eye surgeons I'm consulting, some list cantoplasty as well as canthopexy.

For NCT canthopexy seems to be the better intervetion?

Anyone can chime in here ?

 

[Soalian]

bump.

 

[bradpittshairline]

It’s genes lmao