nearly 1 in 3 U.S. men, ages 18 to 24, reported no sex in the past year.

[Deleted member 23114]

I would argue that its even worse for men my age (late 30s). At my age, it's all about betabuxx.

Yes so true, I’m 23 and when I match with foids that are 23 or older they usually always want to be taken on a date etc. it’s fucking awful, 18-20 foids are the best

 

[Deleted member 23114]

idk where these studies are being done. almost every guy I know has a girlfriend or has sex. ofc im not from the US.

Were you from? And just because every guy you is having sex doesn’t mean the study isn’t true Jfl not heard of sampling bias before; yours would a textbook example of this.
Same with chad thinking ‘idk why guys are struggling so bad, I legit just go the club and fuck them in the toilet easily. How are they struggling???’

 

[Deleted member 23114]

"What are you talking about, every normie is having sex, go outside incel"

Stats don’t lie

 

[Deleted member 23114]

You cope with casual sex cause you can’t get a high quality girl to commit to you
Hahahahsbhs

No men cope with an LTR because they can’t slay high quality women frequently. There is no such thing as a high quality women. At its core all women are promiscuous sluts when the right man is there. Just there standards are high so it doesn’t happen with a lot of guys.

 

[the BULL]

The 33% figure is definitely grossly under-reported. I would argue that the majority of young men haven't had sex in the last year. The question is just how big that majority is.

And for all this talk about how bad it is for 18-24 year old man, I would argue that its even worse for men my age (late 30s). At my age, it's all about betabuxx. And I don't want to play the betabuxx game anymore. I'm sure a lot of men my age have come to the same conclusions. Otherwise you wouldn't see so many MGTOW guys in their 40s and 50s on YouTube like Angry Guy, Better Bachelor, etc. I think Aaron Clarey (whose a Gen Xer in his 40s) has a girlfriend but he has talked about how much of a cesspool dating is. Rollo Tomassi is now in his 50s.

Life ends at 18 then at 25 you're Just a dead man walking. Only solution Is to look young and larp age

I don’t understand why people deny hypergamy every single study recently has highlighted the shocking rise of men being sexless in the past year and how it is not slowing down. It’s rising so fast and that’s it actually threatening to have serious implications on society with motivation to work etc. for guys

Because usa Isn't the whole world. In Italy ppl are not overweight and females don't like dating apps so you Just Need to have rizz. ppl Will laugh at you here if you tell them you're incel

 

[Outlier]

Credit: @Moldovancel


Look at the gap between no sex men (blue) and no sex women (red) see how it is increasing year by year.

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These stats look to be from 2016 as well. brutal.

Single men just don’t care about sex anymore, study says

The article above has some interesting stuff to say. Published in 2021

"According to a study published by Match today, 81 percent of single men said sex is now less important than it was for them in pre-pandemic times.

This is the brutal nature of hypergamy. Men are starting to delude themselves to cope with the brutal reality.

"“It’s most striking in men that they’re taking a moment to value relationships and relationship context of intimate encounters more. We see the rates of casual sex are down, only 11 percent of singles want to date casually,” he said. “More people are back to the ‘three date rule’ and want to go on multiple dates before first making out or having intercourse.”"

This guy actually thinks men are valuing relationships more? Yeah, it's only more valuable because of how rare it is to actually be able to get into one. Simple supply and demand. Casual sex is down for most men because of hypergamy pricing men out of one night stands. There's more in there, but needless to say, it's gotten even worse.

 

[Deleted member 21716]

Were you from? And just because every guy you is having sex doesn’t mean the study isn’t true Jfl not heard of sampling bias before; yours would a textbook example of this.
Same with chad thinking ‘idk why guys are struggling so bad, I legit just go the club and fuck them in the toilet easily. How are they struggling???’

I live in Toronto but travel quite frequently. I am not completely denying this study but I find it crazy that 1/3 of young men have not had sex especially when my in my irl experience literally all the guys I know and am friends with have sex.

 

[Skywalker]

The 33% figure is definitely grossly under-reported. I would argue that the majority of young men haven't had sex in the last year. The question is just how big that majority is.

And for all this talk about how bad it is for 18-24 year old man, I would argue that its even worse for men my age (late 30s). At my age, it's all about betabuxx. And I don't want to play the betabuxx game anymore. I'm sure a lot of men my age have come to the same conclusions. Otherwise you wouldn't see so many MGTOW guys in their 40s and 50s on YouTube like Angry Guy, Better Bachelor, etc. I think Aaron Clarey (whose a Gen Xer in his 40s) has a girlfriend but he has talked about how much of a cesspool dating is. Rollo Tomassi is now in his 50s.

go to SEA and the pb is solved

 

[Graham]

Yes after COVID hit, it promoted going on tinder to hook up and not have a relationship as it wasn’t possible to see someone long term but obviously people had sexual needs so I believe this led to hookup culture spiking.

Like women who wouldn’t use Tinder were using it as it was there only choice and got a taste of how good they have it, they tell there friends and you can see how top 10% men are fucking hundreds of women while normies rot

I saw a graph recently and it was brutal. The top 1% of guys were considered the most attractive by far, and had an absurd amount of likes, while top 20% got a few and anyone below that barely got anything if at all.

 

[Clown Show]

Stats don’t lie

I know, I'm just joking.

 

[Skywalker]

You cope with casual sex cause you can’t get a high quality girl to commit to you
Hahahahsbhs

keep the dreams alive like its 1955 boyo
im sure itll work out well @5.5psl @Primalsplit

 

[alien]

Yes so true, I’m 23 and when I match with foids that are 23 or older they usually always want to be taken on a date etc. it’s fucking awful, 18-20 foids are the best

Yeah it's been over for me for 15 years.
I discovered PUAhate before I joined. My earliest exposure to PUAhate was a post about Fuck Ladder Theory. But I didn't start posting on PUAhate until 2013 when I was 28 years old. We didn't have all of this black pill knowledge on the internet back when I was a whippersnapper. So by the time I discovered the black pill, I was already too old. lmfao.

 

[Slayer]

I live in Toronto but travel quite frequently. I am not completely denying this study but I find it crazy that 1/3 of young men have not had sex especially when my in my irl experience literally all the guys I know and am friends with have sex.

if it were that bad especially over a decade ago then there wouldn't still be a societal level perception that being a single guy is weird and abnormal.

 

[Skywalker]

I live in Toronto but travel quite frequently. I am not completely denying this study but I find it crazy that 1/3 of young men have not had sex especially when my in my irl experience literally all the guys I know and am friends with have sex.

you are among HTN+ then
good looking men are usually oblivious to this pb

 

[autistic_tendencies]

keep the dreams alive like its 1955 boyo
im sure itll work out well @5.5psl @Primalsplit

Happy wife happy life bro
You’re missing out
Keep seething incel hahahah

 

[alien]

go to SEA and the pb is solved

I've given serious thought to SEAmaxxing as of late. I have even been seeing a Filipina hooker here in Toronto ongoing. I saw her five times in the last 3 1/2 months. But I am thinking about getting a 6 month tourist visa to go to the Philippines for real. And maybe even buying a house there and living there.

 

[Deleted member 23114]

These stats look to be from 2016 as well. brutal.

Single men just don’t care about sex anymore, study says

The article above has some interesting stuff to say. Published in 2021

"According to a study published by Match today, 81 percent of single men said sex is now less important than it was for them in pre-pandemic times.

This is the brutal nature of hypergamy. Men are starting to delude themselves to cope with the brutal reality.

"“It’s most striking in men that they’re taking a moment to value relationships and relationship context of intimate encounters more. We see the rates of casual sex are down, only 11 percent of singles want to date casually,” he said. “More people are back to the ‘three date rule’ and want to go on multiple dates before first making out or having intercourse.”"

This guy actually thinks men are valuing relationships more? Yeah, it's only more valuable because of how rare it is to actually be able to get into one. Simple supply and demand. Casual sex is down for most men because of hypergamy pricing men out of one night stands. There's more in there, but needless to say, it's gotten even worse.

Ye men are doing MGTOW, it’s not worth the effort? All these dates for a girl that is used and ran through? What’s the fucking point tbh, just have a wank.
Women are low value and whores now due to culture of expressing their feminine side and women power. You go girl and get dicked Down by chad and all the girls be clapping.

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

And that study was back in 2016. I'd Imagine it's even more extreme now, with the vast majority of zoomers only dating though dating apps.

most zoomers date based on social media clout its peak cringe

 

[Magnum Opus]

What people don’t realise either is how big t10% actually is.

In London there are 380k 18-24 males and 396k females.


So that means there 38k thousand legit chadlite top 10 percentile men for women to share from which is A lot!! All women that are single and looking for fun can just pick from these 38k men as most of top 10 percentile will be single for obvious reasons. @Sprinkles

Muh top 10% chadlite muh

 

[Skywalker]

I've given serious thought to SEAmaxxing as of late. I have even been seeing a Filipina hooker here in Toronto ongoing. I saw her five times in the last 3 1/2 months. But I am thinking about getting a 6 month tourist visa to go to the Philippines for real. And maybe even buying a house there and living there.

 

[Deleted member 21716]

if it were that bad especially over a decade ago then there wouldn't still be a societal level perception that being a single guy is weird and abnormal.

this is exactly what I am thinking. even among other guys it is abnormal to have not any sexual or romantic experiences at least by 20.

 

[Deleted member 23114]

Yeah it's been over for me for 15 years.
I discovered PUAhate before I joined. My earliest exposure to PUAhate was a post about Fuck Ladder Theory. But I didn't start posting on PUAhate until 2013 when I was 28 years old. We didn't have all of this black pill knowledge on the internet back when I was a whippersnapper. So by the time I discovered the black pill, I was already too old. lmfao.

Ye I am 23 and and found these sites at 16, I noticed pretty earlier on about Darwinism and how foids would just go for the best regardless of how they treated them in school.
I have high iq though so I noticed things like this early. No lie ignorance is bliss, the truth always hurts.

Being naive and low iq = happy

No person who sees the world for the truth is happy

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Life ends at 18 then at 25 you're Just a dead man walking. Only solution Is to look young and larp age

Because usa Isn't the whole world. In Italy ppl are not overweight and females don't like dating apps so you Just Need to have rizz. ppl Will laugh at you here if you tell them you're incel

hipergamy and foid pickyness is brutal in the US

my country isnt as bad as there but we are going the same way, because normies in here like to culturally emulate what yankees do

back in 2016-2018 when I started using tinder I'd get matches with 1 in 2 or 3 foids I swiped right, most of them stacylites and htn

went back on using it this year, I usually get 0 matches until my swipes run off lmao and 90% of my matches are with sub5s some of them I swiped right on accident

 

[Deleted member 21716]

you are among HTN+ then
good looking men are usually oblivious to this pb

I wonder where all these guys are hiding then. ofc I am in university so that may have something to do with my perception.

 

[Deleted member 23114]

this is exactly what I am thinking. even among other guys it is abnormal to have not any sexual or romantic experiences at least by 20.

Ignorant to say that and can easily happen as studies show.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I live in Toronto but travel quite frequently. I am not completely denying this study but I find it crazy that 1/3 of young men have not had sex especially when my in my irl experience literally all the guys I know and am friends with have sex.

Any idiot can have sex , but do they resemble an in shape human woman
Hahahahahs

 

[Deleted member 23114]

I wonder where all these guys are hiding then. ofc I am in university so that may have something to do with my perception.

Ye you’re in uni and going out a lot and surrounded by young girls going through their hoe phase, it makes sense you have that. Live in a village like me, 1 hour away from a uni city and tell me if you find it easy

 

[the BULL]

hipergamy and foid pickyness is brutal in the US

my country isnt as bad as there but we are going the same way, because normies in here like to culturally emulate what yankees do

it most likely has to do with people being overweight and/or deathnik. JFL at being a retarded doomer. while ppl are sperging out on here, stacy is getting clapped by some normie

 

[Deleted member 23114]

Any idiot can have sex , but do they resemble an in shape human woman
Hahahahahs

There is truth to this, a lot of guys are fucking bottom 50% of women to cope.

I wonder what the stat is of men having sex with actual good looking women

 

[alien]

this is exactly what I am thinking. even among other guys it is abnormal to have not any sexual or romantic experiences at least by 20.

Are all the guys in your social circle reasonably attractive and neurotypical? The average man is fat. And the average woman is even fatter.

 

[Deleted member 23114]

it most likely has to do with people being overweight and/or deathnik. JFL at being a retarded doomer. while ppl are sperging out on here, stacy is getting clapped by some normie

Ye normie is clapping Stacy but only met him through socialmaxxing and having high social status. No normie is clapping a Stacy from tinder or the club you’re an idiot if you think so

 

[the BULL]

There is truth to this, a lot of guys are fucking bottom 50% of women to cope.

I wonder what the stat is of men having sex with actual good looking women

while you're sperging out on here some normie is clapping stacy

 

[Deleted member 21716]

Ye you’re in uni and going out a lot and surrounded by young girls going through their hoe phase, it makes sense you have that. Live in a village like me, 1 hour away from a uni city and tell me if you find it easy

I agree there are circumstances that can shape how your romantic and sex life goes. I also saw another study that said 1/5 of men or something like that had no friends. I don't think this is just a dating problem tbh it seems like according to studies men are having just a harder social life in general.

 

[Slayer]

Any idiot can have sex , but do they resemble an in shape human woman
Hahahahahs

There is truth to this, a lot of guys are fucking bottom 50% of women to cope.

I wonder what the stat is of men having sex with actual good looking women

absolutely better than nothing. you two are older so it's bizarre to me this realization hasn't hit you already.

 

[the BULL]

Ye normie is clapping Stacy but only met him through socialmaxxing and having high social status. No normie is clapping a Stacy from tinder or the club you’re an idiot if you think so

then just be social jfl you only need rizz. if male inceldom was real society would already have flopped

 

[Deleted member 23114]

while you're sperging out on here some normie is clapping stacy

Idc though just social status she will probably cheat on him, women cheat all the time for this exact reason. ‘He treated me nice but idk we just didn’t grow together’

 

[Deleted member 23114]

absolutely better than nothing. you two are older so it's bizarre to me this realization hasn't hit you already.

What??

 

[the BULL]

Idc though just social status she will probably cheat on him, women cheat all the time for this exact reason. ‘He treated me nice but idk we just didn’t grow together’

what a bunch of bs you don't even know women from real life lol you get all this information from the internet

 

[Deleted member 23114]

then just be social jfl you only need rizz. if male inceldom was real society would already have flopped

Why do you deny every stat going? Why do you only get 1 like in Germany while your looksmatch gets 99+ plus in 5 minutes and is fucking hot guys daily.

It’s not because the dating market is fucked it’s cause you are shadowbanned pics right Bhai?

Seriously bro, wake up!

 

[Skywalker]

while you're sperging out on here some normie is clapping stacy

they are not normie at all
HTN at least with very good NT

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Ye normie is clapping Stacy but only met him through socialmaxxing and having high social status. No normie is clapping a Stacy from tinder or the club you’re an idiot if you think so

normie looking mfs only clap stacies if they socialmaxx/successmaxx
because stacies know they have options

they wont agree to get banged by some random normie just because he "has rizz" lmao this is PUA cope

 

[Deleted member 21716]

Are all the guys in your social circle reasonably attractive and neurotypical? The average man is fat. And the average woman is even fatter.

true a lot of guys don't take care of themselves. most of the guys I know are in shape with the exception of this fat Chinese guy but vent he's got a girlfriend.

 

[the BULL]

Why do you deny every stat going? Why do you only get 1 like in Germany while your looksmatch gets 99+ plus in 5 minutes and is fucking hot guys daily.

It’s not because the dating market is fucked it’s cause you are shadowbanned pics right Bhai?

Seriously bro, wake up!

that acc was definitely shadowbanned and only trash girls use tinder anyways. the male /female ratio on tinder is 9:1. you're a retarded doomer no wonder your life sucks. go touch some grass

 

[Graham]

this is exactly what I am thinking. even among other guys it is abnormal to have not any sexual or romantic experiences at least by 20.

IDK, from my experience it's fairly common for guys around 18 to 25 to never have had a girlfriend, let alone sex, despite them mostly being "normies", however, when women asked me about my past and how I never had any partners or anything they were shocked.

The people who are most surprised (from my experience) are women and older people (men and women). Considering societal norms are still taught off the Boomer / Gen X paradigm it makes sense that people think it's weird to be a virgin in their 20s. Ironically, I'm one of those people, as I believe there is something wrong if you're a KHHV in your 20s and that problem is most likely your looks due to how online everything is.

 

[Outlier]

For Valentine’s Day, 5 facts about single Americans Published 2023

. "When looking at age and gender together, 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group."

. "The proportion of unpartnered adults also varies by race and ethnicity, educational attainment and sexual orientation. For instance, 47% of Black adults report being single, higher than the share among other racial and ethnic groups."

. "This drop is largely driven by single men, who are now 11 percentage points less likely than in 2019 to say they are looking for a committed relationship and/or casual dates (50% in July 2022, down from 61% in 2019). During the same time frame, there has been no significant change in the share of single women who are looking for a relationship or casual dates: 35% said this in 2022, compared with 38% in 2019."

Here's some more statistics of the state of things currently.

 

[Deleted member 23114]

For Valentine’s Day, 5 facts about single Americans Published 2023

. "When looking at age and gender together, 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group."

. "The proportion of unpartnered adults also varies by race and ethnicity, educational attainment and sexual orientation. For instance, 47% of Black adults report being single, higher than the share among other racial and ethnic groups."

. "This drop is largely driven by single men, who are now 11 percentage points less likely than in 2019 to say they are looking for a committed relationship and/or casual dates (50% in July 2022, down from 61% in 2019). During the same time frame, there has been no significant change in the share of single women who are looking for a relationship or casual dates: 35% said this in 2022, compared with 38% in 2019."

Here's some more statistics of the state of things currently.

The main reason men are staying single is for two reasons:
1. They are normie and have to fuck women that they would never consider and LTR with and don’t even find that attractive

2. They are chad and don’t need to LTR

 

[DarkHorizon]

But still 66% are not sexless. Which means that's the clear majority. Im garbage and have failed at life

 

[the BULL]

you could be clapping stacy instead you're busy getting depressed over those stats from BURGERland jfl at you bro

 

[Deleted member 21716]

IDK, from my experience it's fairly common for guys around 18 to 25 to never have had a girlfriend, let alone sex, despite them mostly being "normies", however, when women asked me about my past and how I never had any partners or anything they were shocked.

The people who are most surprised (from my experience) are women and older people (men and women). Considering societal norms are still taught off the Boomer / Gen X paradigm it makes sense that people think it's weird to be a virgin in their 20s. Ironically, I'm one of those people, as I believe there is something wrong if you're a KHHV in your 20s and that problem is most likely your looks due to how online everything is.

where you live?

 

[Graham]

you could be clapping stacy instead you're busy getting depressed over those stats from BURGERland jfl at you bro

@WishIwasChico is HTN?