Need help picking LL surgeon

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Basically, the LL forum is spammed with fake diaries from doctors and I can't distinguish fake from real.

I was thinking of doing Precise 2.2 or Max(for weight bearing capabilities). Femurs 7/8 cm
Also, would want a doctor in europe if posible and not overly expensive(not over 80k)

For anyone doubting me, as soon as I make my choice i will call for an appointment. I already did most preparations for "dissapearing" for 3/4 months next year.

I have planned the surgery for early july.

Also, I read about these doctors which I would avoid because they literally crippled and killed patients:

Livelifetaller
Wannabetaller
Yuksel Yurttas(bro literally makes top 10 lists on best ll surgeon on his own website and writes about himself like a god)
Limblengthening-center
Lengthening Turkey
AFA
Dr. Guichet( killed a ll forum user and crippled like 4 people for life)
Betz institute( fake stories and killed at least a person)


GNAIL AND BETZBONE SUCK, only precise 2,2/ max is the method i will use

ALSO, FUCK STRYDE, IT WAS SO GOOD BUT NOW I HAVE TO STAY IN BED THE WHOLE SURGERY AND LOSE MY CALF MUSCLES CUZ THEY FUCKING RECALLED IT
 
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How come is the betzbone shit
Dont respond with that one yt vid please
it breaks usually and fucks up your leg muscles because you have to click(which is very painful) and if u overlenghten or it doesnt heal it cannot be reversed like precise
 
also, update, giotikas is off the table, he fakes diaries
 
FIRST case :

Patient DMs me and says he had the same issue. Dr Giotikas claimed to fix valgus and apex anterior deformity, but it’s clear from visual and x ray, he hasn’t:

https://ibb.co/CKj7FPv


SECOND case (ME) :
I went to Dr Giotikas to fix my own valgus/procurvatum deformity, Dr Giotikas claimed he did, but Dr Assayag showed me on x-ray that absolutely nothing was corrected:

Dr Giotikas claims this is perfectly normal and straight and no deformity present and trash talked American surgeons when I showed him I still had an issue! LOL:

https://ibb.co/2jJK89X


THIRD case :

Another user goes to Giotikas to fix procurvatum deformity, says its clear from standing and from x-ray that the deformity wasn’t corrected.

https://ibb.co/L5yHq0h

https://ibb.co/8K77F3r

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64280.msg164727#msg164727

FOURTH case :


User gets fibula non union due to Giotikas not properly fixating ankle bone, risk of osteoarthritis, and needs multiple correction surgeries:

https://ibb.co/1sn8hVw

https://ibb.co/31PkPvB

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9073.msg221515#msg221515


FIFTH case :

Giotikas patient has non union on femur due to bone cut and where the nail was inserted. 15:46

https://ibb.co/LhFHJZ2

https://ibb.co/HzJQ9w9





SIXTH case :

Giotikas patient dies from LL:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=83193.0

32:45


SEVENTH case:

Protruding screw from G-Nail hurts patient in hip (I had the same problem, with a protruding screw in my tibia from Giotikas. Extremely painful) (search up Cyborg4life and Paley interview) 01:31:10:

https://ibb.co/FK1PsnW


It’s not just me, Cyborg4life doesn’t recommend Giotikas! He hid all the interviews with him! I can only warn you by giving my and others examples! Your choice is your own, whether you want to risk your legs to save money!
 
Dr. Donghoon Lee in south korea apparently hes one of the best. Seen his results pretty good imo and way better then any turkish or eu surgeon. Dont know what his price tho.
 
Dr. Donghoon Lee in south korea apparently hes one of the best. Seen his results pretty good imo and way better then any turkish or eu surgeon. Dont know what his price tho.
it's decently priced, already booked an online consultation and did my xrays today, might not have any spots open for when I would like to do the surgery(July) but I believe he might be my final choice
 
Basically, the LL forum is spammed with fake diaries from doctors and I can't distinguish fake from real.

I was thinking of doing Precise 2.2 or Max(for weight bearing capabilities). Femurs 7/8 cm
Also, would want a doctor in europe if posible and not overly expensive(not over 80k)

For anyone doubting me, as soon as I make my choice i will call for an appointment. I already did most preparations for "dissapearing" for 3/4 months next year.

I have planned the surgery for early july.

Also, I read about these doctors which I would avoid because they literally crippled and killed patients:

Livelifetaller
Wannabetaller
Yuksel Yurttas(bro literally makes top 10 lists on best ll surgeon on his own website and writes about himself like a god)
Limblengthening-center
Lengthening Turkey
AFA
Dr. Guichet( killed a ll forum user and crippled like 4 people for life)
Betz institute( fake stories and killed at least a person)


GNAIL AND BETZBONE SUCK, only precise 2,2/ max is the method i will use

ALSO, FUCK STRYDE, IT WAS SO GOOD BUT NOW I HAVE TO STAY IN BED THE WHOLE SURGERY AND LOSE MY CALF MUSCLES CUZ THEY FUCKING RECALLED IT
I dont think betz is too bad. For your budget go to dr. giotikas or parley eu
 
yeah man. I'm sub 170cm I know the struggle. I'll have to push the extremes of LL to even be a normal height.
Are you from netherlands? If you arent below 160 one LL should do
 
update 1:

went with dr giotikas, althought it's riskier then with others, he's the only one in Europe who might be borderline acceptable

8cm femur to get from 5'8(173) to 5'11(181)

hes making me do some weird xrays and some blood work

still like 5 months till operation, he told me to maintain my current weight (69 kg)

flexibility exercises for now, no intensive leg activity(daily cardio is ok, just not excessive)
 
it breaks usually and fucks up your leg muscles because you have to click(which is very painful) and if u overlenghten or it doesnt heal it cannot be reversed like precise
I know someone who got 11cm from Betz without any problems. As I know the clinic only botched 2 people in 15+ years. He is better than the Greek guy tbh
 
I know someone who got 11cm from Betz without any problems. As I know the clinic only botched 2 people in 15+ years. He is better than the Greek guy tbh
yeah but now the younger guy does all the procedures and also heard some death being hidden from him while giotikas is transparent
 
i know one guy on this forum did wannabetaller (if i remember correctly) and it went well, i think from 5'8.5 to 6'1 with both femur and tibia

anything other than paley seems risky as shit though considering ur literal life is in their hands
 
yeah, like i said, im not doing LL for dating, just for personal preference
 
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Fair, but remember with all that money you could Ascend facially so fucking much
true, but I don't require any major surgeries regarding the face area as I got decent genetics. The height is my biggest failo
 
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yeah but now the younger guy does all the procedures and also heard some death being hidden from him while giotikas is transparent
The guy I told you about got it at the new guy(Becker) but I am not sure if Becker is the one that does the surgery. Betz had 2 very well known botches, he is even manlet himself. Btw death sounds extreme, I could rather think you get crippled or atleast can’t run properly, losing flexibility. How can you die at LL? It must be 2 rare and only because of bloodloss
 
The guy I told you about got it at the new guy(Becker) but I am not sure if Becker is the one that does the surgery. Betz had 2 very well known botches, he is even manlet himself. Btw death sounds extreme, I could rather think you get crippled or atleast can’t run properly, losing flexibility. How can you die at LL? It must be 2 rare and only because of bloodloss
bloodclots brother, tough subject to talk about but with the right medication can be prevented
 

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