Need help with Nootropics

[Frame.ed]

Addy fsssssss modafinil is mid asf maybe good if you’re tired but it’s way easier to get than add

Where did you get your adderall?

 

[Keylozz]

The bold ones are the best ones on their effect

Cognitve Enhancement (working memory mostly, temporal effect): Racetams (Oxiracetam, Pramiracetam and Phenylpiracetam), PRL-8-53 and Semax

Long Term (brain synapses and neurogenesis): Cerebrolysin, Dihexa (not much evidence), P21, Semax (yes again), PE-22-28

Stimulants: Modafinil, Adderall and Nicotine - Personally I do Modafinil/Adderall + Nicotine to kick in while the main one metabolize and absorb (cause i take them in the morning to study and i want to wake up inmediately and modafinil takes like 60m to kick, also nicotine has to be vaped to inmediate absortion)

Also, if you cant get Adderall, and you want similar effect take high dose Modafinil plus some norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor

 

[Keylozz]

Modafinil,unifiram,dihexa,cerebrolysin if your richcell

yep unifiram and sunifiram mogs for temporal working memory, studying and transitory cognitive enhancement

 

[aids]

Adderall is good only if you struggle with low energy during study.
Take straight dexamphetamine if you just can’t concentrate.
It could also be anxiety-induced, etc, etc.

 

[smartstyle]

Just got interested in them as i have to focus on my education this year as i barely passed the last 2 years.

I believe i actually can achieve pretty good grades but each time i try to study my brain just fucking stops me like i get headaches and shit (adhd?), any recommendations?

I’ve looked around a little bit and seems like the strong ones also come with risks like dependance on the “drug” after using it for a period of time and the other ones seem pretty mild which is why I’m asking for help, is there any threads on this?

@menas i don’t really know who to tag aswell

Would recommend adderal as last resort because it's practically low dose meth, so it could fuck you up.

get semax, bromantane and @phenylpiracetam

and maybe some adderal if u can get it prescribed.

High iq

 

[hej1377]

yep unifiram and sunifiram mogs for temporal working memory, studying and transitory cognitive enhancement

Got sunifiram recently and the memory on it is insane

 

[hej1377]

yep unifiram and sunifiram mogs for temporal working memory, studying and transitory cognitive enhancement

Typy,meant unifiram

 

[4ever]

no nootropic will stop you from getting headaches. You need to focus as much as possible (within your perception, emotionally define your schoolwork as urgent (perceive and hold that framing) while also holding the framing of the distractions as “useless and not mission critical” and try to find why you’re getting the headaches (likely stress and overwhelm) and redefine it within your perception such that you nullify it (perceive whatever is causing it (ex. Overwhelm as tackle-able if you stuck with it, and therefore it can not overwhelm you since overwhelm would mean you can’t tackle it since it’s too much)

Great response. I'm currently looking for nootropics for two tasks. Both of them entail sitting for a long time in the library.

1) writing a thesis
2) studying for around 5 months for a very important exam

So for the stack I was looking at was:

Semax + Selank + Bromantane

I was also looking at research chemical alternatives to Vyvanse. Ideas would be something like 2-FMA - do you know a better alternative?

The idea would be to use Semax as baseline, selank more towards the end when the exam stress comes closer.

I would try to cycle Bromantane, something amphetamine based, caffeine, Modafinil ideally.


Thoughts? Any other substances that are worth looking at? I'm reading about unifiram currently. Racetams seem interesting as well As I need to memorize a lot. Risk to reward ratio is essential for me. Don't want to sacrifice my long term health for this.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Great response. I'm currently looking for nootropics for two tasks. Both of them entail sitting for a long time in the library.

1) writing a thesis
2) studying for around 5 months for a very important exam

So for the stack I was looking at was:

Semax + Selank + Bromantane

I was also looking at research chemical alternatives to Vyvanse. Ideas would be something like 2-FMA - do you know a better alternative?

The idea would be to use Semax as baseline, selank more towards the end when the exam stress comes closer.

I would try to cycle Bromantane, something amphetamine based, caffeine, Modafinil ideally.


Thoughts? Any other substances that are worth looking at? I'm reading about unifiram currently. Racetams seem interesting as well As I need to memorize a lot. Risk to reward ratio is essential for me. Don't want to sacrifice my long term health for this.

I gave you your answer, check it out.
Thanks!

 

[4ever]

I gave you your answer, check it out.
Thanks!

Appreciate it, thanks.

Diet and fitness are already pretty much dialed in. Sleep is still suboptimal.

 

[4ever]

yep unifiram and sunifiram mogs for temporal working memory, studying and transitory cognitive enhancement

Which pathway would you say helps more for long term memory formation?

TrkB/ngf/bdgf or ampakines / nmda modulators?

And which would be the best from each category?

Tak, ACD, noopept, Semax, uni / Suni, racetams, come to mind.


Also Modafinil worth getting additionally or a waste of money?

 

[drio]

Just got interested in them as i have to focus on my education this year as i barely passed the last 2 years.

I believe i actually can achieve pretty good grades but each time i try to study my brain just fucking stops me like i get headaches and shit (adhd?), any recommendations?

I’ve looked around a little bit and seems like the strong ones also come with risks like dependance on the “drug” after using it for a period of time and the other ones seem pretty mild which is why I’m asking for help, is there any threads on this?

@menas i don’t really know who to tag aswell

Bromantane

 

[auitistsurvior]

do you want short term improvements or long term?

 

[auitistsurvior]

semax a

why use semax when you are already using dihexa

 

[jeoyw9192]

Also buprupione is very good for motivation and just enjoyment ehen doing thing. Not traditionally a nootropic but its helped me get a positive cognetive framework

Where did you source

 

[Zagro]

do you want short term improvements or long term?

Doesn’t matter really i just struggle to focus and concentrate most of the time, so i think short-term would be better for case

why use semax when you are already using dihexa

I’m not using dihexa nor plan to use it as it seems a little bit expensive not sure if i can afford it atm , will surely add semax though

 

[auitistsurvior]

Doesn’t matter really i just struggle to focus and concentrate most of the time, so i think short-term would be better for case

my personel ranking for stims is
1. adderal
2.ritalin
3.concerta

those are the best for short term improvements

I’m not using dihexa nor plan to use it as it seems a little bit expensive not sure if i can afford it atm , will surely add semax though

i wouldve recommend cereblyosin but itll give you brain fog while you use it so no

and dont take selank and semax at the same time since semax increases neuroplascticicty your brain will get used to selanks effects on a1 and a2 subunits in GABA + selank and semax when taken together kinda doesnt works good so take selank at night and semax at morning

and dihexa isnt that expensive if you are in usa but i remmeber you being in holland whic yea its really expensive but its really good you should look into it in the future atleast

are you planning to use other compounds such as dmt lsd for brain?

 

[auitistsurvior]

Nicotine

other stims mogs nicotine to oblivion tbh lets just increase our RHR by 30 points and be constently hypersensitive for little to no benefits

 

[Keylozz]

other stims mogs nicotine to oblivion tbh lets just increase our RHR by 30 points and be constently hypersensitive for little to no benefits

I agree, I prefer Adderall over everything (literally as simple as 10mg before studying or any high cogntive effort activity, no nicotine no modafinil, etc) over Ritalin (I haven't tried it), Vyvanse (I don't find it comparable to Adderall) and the other amphetamines due to they're long half life, so if anyone does amphetamine always do the IR version.

And also nicotine can be bad as fuck if overdosed or quickly absorption, I had sometimes horrible dizziness

 

[Keylozz]

Which pathway would you say helps more for long term memory formation?

TrkB/ngf/bdgf or ampakines / nmda modulators?

And which would be the best from each category?

Tak, ACD, noopept, Semax, uni / Suni, racetams, come to mind.


Also Modafinil worth getting additionally or a waste of money?

I would do both if possible (cause the evidence is relative, but points more towards AMPA, so try both pathways), and preferably these:

BDNF/NGF: Cerebrolysin, Semax and Noopept (there is more potent and selective ones but impossible to find)

AMPA: Sunifiram and Unifiram seems to be the more available and potent on this pathway (also Racetams but less potent)

And Modafinil worth trying it, some people only notice the vigil only and me I notice improvement in focus taken 1h before

But try to find Adderall, its better to study 5-6 GOOD fucking hours straight 4x times per week than taking all this (except Cerebrolysin and Semax)

 

[4ever]

I would do both if possible (cause the evidence is relative, but points more towards AMPA, so try both pathways), and preferably these:

BDNF/NGF: Cerebrolysin, Semax and Noopept (there is more potent and selective ones but impossible to find)

AMPA: Sunifiram and Unifiram seems to be the more available and potent on this pathway (also Racetams but less potent)

And Modafinil worth trying it, some people only notice the vigil only and me I notice improvement in focus taken 1h before

But try to find Adderall, its better to study 5-6 GOOD fucking hours straight 4x times per week than taking all this (except Cerebrolysin and Semax)

I just ordered waklert armodafinil before seeing your message xD. People report that its slightly stronger.

Cerebrolysin - impractical

Semax - good support / basic

Noopept - dual action but mixed reports when it comes to strength compared to Semax.

Suni / Uni - signficantly stronger than phenylpiracetam, little human data

Prl - very promising anectodes, no known mechanism of action? People claim learning languages works well on it. Interesting?

Experimental:
ACD856 - bdnf mainly. Unrealistic for me to source.

tak-653 - might be the best ampa drug? Not sure if overhyped, or legitimately better than the other options. Found a source, not sure if it'll make it through customs.

pglchem – Your chemical supplier

pglchem.com

So take the shot with tak, Suni/ uni or prl?

For bdnf I'd probably either go Semax or Noopept, depending on price and availability.

 

[auitistsurvior]

I agree, I prefer Adderall over everything (literally as simple as 10mg before studying or any high cogntive effort activity, no nicotine no modafinil, etc) over Ritalin (I haven't tried it), Vyvanse (I don't find it comparable to Adderall) and the other amphetamines due to they're long half life, so if anyone does amphetamine always do the IR version.

And also nicotine can be bad as fuck if overdosed or quickly absorption, I had sometimes horrible dizziness

agree agree nicotine does certainly have benefits but when we compare it to addy and ritalin its just realy bad i wouldnt use it tbh

BDNF/NGF: Cerebrolysin, Semax

cerebloysin causes brainfog in some people and id use it as a recovery tool rather than cognitive enchanter just use it on days you wont do much cognitive work

semax is nice but when we compare it to other certain compounds it seems weak tbh but its reallllyy fucking easy to source so there is no problem using it i would actually recommend it

And Modafinil

no point if you have other stims in your hand i used it multiple times only when i had no ritalin in my hand

 

[auitistsurvior]

I would do both if possible (cause the evidence is relative, but points more towards AMPA, so try both pathways), and preferably these:

BDNF/NGF: Cerebrolysin, Semax and Noopept (there is more potent and selective ones but impossible to find)

AMPA: Sunifiram and Unifiram seems to be the more available and potent on this pathway (also Racetams but less potent)

And Modafinil worth trying it, some people only notice the vigil only and me I notice improvement in focus taken 1h before

But try to find Adderall, its better to study 5-6 GOOD fucking hours straight 4x times per week than taking all this (except Cerebrolysin and Semax)

i want to use dmt ,lsd and other drugs for cogntive enchanctment but idk what to tell my family

yeah dad ill trip for a few hours its all for studying i swear

 

[auitistsurvior]

i want to use dmt ,lsd and other drugs for cogntive enchanctment but idk what to tell my family

yeah dad ill trip for a few hours its all for studying i swear

i found dihexa source and contacted some higher up goverment officers that ik so my shit wont get seized but i still look for good international shipping dihexa sources and researching i only found 2 now