New Alfaro Bimax result

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He would get a better resut with a wraparound jaw implant and leanmaxxing?
idk. I'm against wraparound jaw implant bc it looks like shit in most cases. Sometimes if patient is utterly recessed and need like 10-15mm bsso these cases with implant may look pretty good. And thus if you need big advancement IMO better stick with bimax and gonion implants/fillers. Personally I'm gonna cope with fillers into my gonions and if they'll look excellend, I consider gonion implants
 
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tbh nothing changed. Only side profile changed slightly which is mostly cope. Bimax is redundant as usual if you are not recessed, imagine spending 20-30k euros for this ascension
I dunno, his 3/4 looks much better too. Gave him some cheekbone definition. The front doesn't look like amorphous blob anymore either.
It's just that, unfortunately, his other features are also bad.
 
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TBH it's conservative result but since every mm counts it's still better.
 
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This result should be good functionally. Now the airway volume is almost 2.5 times the volume before.
 
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This result should be good functionally. Now the airway volume is almost 2.5 times the volume before.
You think a guy with narrow airways can never be good in sports? Big airway important for endurance?
 
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You think a guy with narrow airways can never be good in sports? Big airway important for endurance?
I don't know, but the difference in the airway volume is big. I think the guy should have an easier time breathing through the nose now.
 
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I don't know, but the difference in the airway volume is big. I think the guy should have an easier time breathing through the nose now.
I am the guy on the pics. Surgery has been done for sleeping apnea. I was not able to sleep anymore. Awaken many times during the night. Headacke the whole morning, exhausted the whole day, impossibilty to concentratre at work ,...
 
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Looks like every overbite cel before and after they learn what jutting is
 
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I am the guy on the pics. Surgery has been done for sleeping apnea. I was not able to sleep anymore. Awaken many times during the night. Headacke the whole morning, exhausted the whole day, impossibilty to concentratre at work ,...
I assume now you breath much better and your quality of life improved tremendously?
 
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imagine paying 25k for this and not being able to eat and speak properly for weeks
Not true he does it in minimally invasive way
 
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I cannot wait to talk with alafaro
 
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@Jon87 short face syndrom before right?
 
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yeah, you improved in this area a lot
 
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Exactly. I was able to speak properly few hours after the op. Liquid diet one week. Soft food then. Recovery was pretty easy.
Can you give a full description of your recovery. This is mostly what makes me not want to get the surgery. I don’t want to be unable to function for too long
 
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Just because you can’t afford jaw surgery doesn’t mean it isn’t effective.

This is a significant change, the face went from blobby to defined, lower third improved a lot.

Jaw surgery is the only surgery that could’ve had this aesthetic affect, how was he supposed to looksmax with a blobby face?
 
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Just because you can’t afford jaw surgery doesn’t mean it isn’t effective.

This is a significant change, the face went from blobby to defined, lower third improved a lot.

Jaw surgery is the only surgery that could’ve had this aesthetic affect, how was he supposed to looksmax with a blobby face?
This is exactly why I want it. I HATE being skinny with a undefined blobby face. @Jon87 did u also lose a lot of weight or is that mostly the surgery that makes ur face thinner
 
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This is exactly why I want it. I HATE being skinny with a undefined blobby face. @Jon87 did u also lose a lot of weight or is that mostly the surgery that makes ur face thinner
Weight is almost the same. And the after pics were done one month after so there's still a bit of swelling.
 
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Weight is almost the same. And the after pics were done one month after so there's still a bit of swelling.
Post a pic so I know it’s actually u. 😂
 
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Weight is almost the same. And the after pics were done one month after so there's still a bit of swelling.
Also how much did u pay
 
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Can you give a full description of your recovery. This is mostly what makes me not want to get the surgery. I don’t want to be unable to function for too long
Well with Alfaro the recovery was easy. When I left the hospital the day after I felt good enough to walk to my hotel one hour. Then the afternoon I had a two hours walk in Barcelona too. I was just a bit tired the next days. After ten days no one could have said I had surgery. And went back to work. Food is a bit anoying but you learn step by step to chew again. I had a first bimax last year with another surgeon. It was harder in a way it was much more unconfortable due to the swelling. The two first weeks very tiring. But at least in three-four weeks you go back to a normal life.
 
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Well with Alfaro the recovery was easy. When I left the hospital the day after I felt good enough to walk to my hotel one hour. Then the afternoon I had a two hours walk in Barcelona too. I was just a bit tired the next days. After ten days no one could have said I had surgery. And went back to work. Food is a bit anoying but you learn step by step to chew again. I had a first bimax last year with another surgeon. It was harder in a way it was much more unconfortable due to the swelling. The two first weeks very tiring. But at least in three-four weeks you go back to a normal life.
Alfaro is the Paley (LL) of maxfac surgeons. Top league but expensive
 
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tbh nothing changed. Only side profile changed slightly which is mostly cope. Bimax is redundant as usual if you are not recessed, imagine spending 20-30k euros for this ascension
Mostly side profile improvements for cases like the shared OP, but if you're truly recessed, probably your upper maxilla is too.

You gotta find that Russian fag that offers Lefort 2 for cosmetic reasons or 2 others that'll cost you a fortune or cope with midface implants and under eye BS that will try to mask the problem but won't fix it.
 
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Mostly side profile improvements for cases like the shared OP, but if you're truly recessed, probably your upper maxilla is too.

You gotta find that Russian fag that offers Lefort 2 for cosmetic reasons or 2 others that'll cost you a fortune or cope with midface implants and under eye BS that will try to mask the problem but won't fix it.
better go bonesmash your brain and go back when you gain some IQ points
 
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better go bonesmash your brain and go back when you gain some IQ points
What? You realize Lefort 2 affects the eye area or you're intellectually retarded?
 
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What? You realize Lefort 2 affects the eye area or you're intellectually retarded?
none does lf2 for cosmetical reasons jfl I have to text with larpcel
 
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none does lf2 for cosmetical reasons jfl I have to text with larpcel
Dr. Andreishchev. Do you actually think ANY surgeons that can perform Lf2, won't do it if you pay them enough?

Where are these morons coming from? Where do you live in a moneyless commie toilet or in the toilet that your username implies?

Because there they still use money.
 
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Dr. Andreishchev. Do you actually think ANY surgeons that can perform Lf2, won't do it if you pay them enough?

Where are these morons coming from? Where do you live in a moneyless commie toilet or in the toilet that your username implies?

Because there they still use money.
i live in lada
 
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Dr. Andreishchev. Do you actually think ANY surgeons that can perform Lf2, won't do it if you pay them enough?

Where are these morons coming from? Where do you live in a moneyless commie toilet or in the toilet that your username implies?

Because there they still use money.
Lf2 is a little bit far fetche tbh.
I’m 100% sure not a single fucking looksmaxxer in the history of psl is gonna be able to get a lf2 :lul:
 
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Well with Alfaro the recovery was easy. When I left the hospital the day after I felt good enough to walk to my hotel one hour. Then the afternoon I had a two hours walk in Barcelona too. I was just a bit tired the next days. After ten days no one could have said I had surgery. And went back to work. Food is a bit anoying but you learn step by step to chew again. I had a first bimax last year with another surgeon. It was harder in a way it was much more unconfortable due to the swelling. The two first weeks very tiring. But at least in three-four weeks you go back to a normal life.

Any idea why the recovery with Alfaro was so much easier? Was it because of his “minimally invasive” approach?

Can you share pics before your first bimax?

Also, do you think doing this staggered two surgeries approach was necessary to achieve your final result, or if you would’ve gone to Alfaro first do you think you could’ve had the same amount of total movement in one surgery?

I really appreciate you sharing your experience and answering questions, you look great.
 

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