NO BS GUIDE: curing a subhuman eye area (abused dogs GTFIH)

[WanderingBurro]

@WanderingBurro

Whenever I pull my skin sideways, it doesn't seem to improve my eye area at all and I feel a decent cheekbone. However, I have pretty bad dark circles. Would this more likely be a pigmentation issue rather than a bone issue? May just cope with concealer for the time being if that's the case.

Also, one of my eyes are slightly bigger than the other, but that's probably only fixable through extreme surgeries like Tripod.

Chances are your orbital region is the culprit as opposed to your malar region which isn't too uncommon. On the bright side you most likely won't have to worry about any form of cheek augmentation and can skip to addressing the orbital region directly through means such as infraorbital implants (sometimes refered to as tear-trough implants or flowers implants), fat grafting to the lower eyelid, and maybe some form of laser treatment. Concealer or a colour corrector can work as a temporary solution in the meantime.

Infra orbital implant:

Fat transfer:

Laser treatment:

Dark circles directly underneath the eye are usually caused by weak orbitals, lack of fat storage, or poor skin quality.

 

[zemult]

Chances are your orbital region is the culprit as opposed to your malar region which isn't too uncommon. On the bright side you most likely won't have to worry about any form of cheek augmentation and can skip to addressing the orbital region directly through means such as infraorbital implants (sometimes refered to as tear-trough implants or flowers implants), fat grafting to the lower eyelid, and maybe some form of laser treatment. Concealer or a colour corrector can work as a temporary solution in the meantime.

Infra orbital implant:
View attachment 3297203

Fat transfer:
View attachment 3297205

Laser treatment:
View attachment 3297206

Dark circles directly underneath the eye are usually caused by weak orbitals, lack of fat storage, or poor skin quality.

I thought as much. I wasn't aware that infraorbital implants were referred to as tear-trough implants, that's good information to know. It's weird though, I'm the only one in my family that suffers from dark circles at a young age. Do you know any autistic methods to check if the infraorbital bones are the problem before talking to a surgeon?

I also suffer from slightly excessive UEE sometimes, it's weird though - only at specific times of day (?), other times it just looks like normal almond eyes, and I take my best pictures during those times.
I was originally going to address this with supraorbital implants (aka "browridge implants"), but from the side my browridge already looks like it projects well enough.
In that case I should probably shoot for fat grafts first, considering the low severity? If I shoot for a browridge implant, I'll probably look like a Neanderthal.

 

[Shahnameh]

I will be doing this, i hate dark circles

 

[WanderingBurro]

I thought as much. I wasn't aware that infraorbital implants were referred to as tear-trough implants, that's good information to know. It's weird though, I'm the only one in my family that suffers from dark circles at a young age. Do you know any autistic methods to check if the infraorbital bones are the problem before talking to a surgeon?

I also suffer from slightly excessive UEE sometimes, it's weird though - only at specific times of day (?), other times it just looks like normal almond eyes, and I take my best pictures during those times.
I was originally going to address this with supraorbital implants (aka "browridge implants"), but from the side my browridge already looks like it projects well enough.
In that case I should probably shoot for fat grafts first, considering the low severity? If I shoot for a browridge implant, I'll probably look like a Neanderthal.

Some things you can try before delving into the world of surgery include: getting enough rest, try some normie undereye creams/ointments, try the non-NT volufiline, or try a little bit of icing.

Your supras are probably fine and chances are your UEE isn't too bad either but fat grafts to the upper eyelid can really transform an eyelid if that's the problem.

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

Some people will tell you that it doesn't matter how strong your facial features are, if your eye area is below the MTN range there is no salvation. It is truly a make or break area of the face. Considering my eyes are one of my largest failos and I see many here struggling with theirs I'll share various tidbits of info I've gathered. Listen this is a no BS guide. Most of these methods WILL REQUIRE surgery. I'm not going to sell you any "just mew" or "just ice" cope. Some of these copes can maybe help to minorly improve a MTN-HTN eye area but this guide will solely be focused on an LTN to subhuman eye area. Keep in mind that these probably won't give you a chad eye area but should at least stop your eyes from being an active failo.

STEP 1: CHEEK AUGMENTATION

Consider this to be setting the foundation to your eye area. Without proper malar support trying to fix your eye area will be a rather futile effort. Strong LATERAL (I'll explain my emphasis in a moment) will help to prop up a sagging droopy appearance of the skin. Key features of an underdeveloped lateral projection is a tired looking face despite being well rested, a "chubby" face despite being rather lean, very prominent nasolabial folds or eyebags at a young age.

TEST IT OUT:
Take the skin on your midface and pull it SIDEWAYS, you might notice that your eye area improves significantly and if this is the case you are lacking in lateral projection. Remember NOT to pull upwards, this would more so mimic a facial lift which lateral malar projection won't give you. Only pull SIDEWAYS I repeat.

Now the only way to really fix this is to laterally augment your cheeks. Whilst this can be done with filler you're really going to want to go with implants for longevity. Just keep in mind that you want LATERAL projection. If you ever wonder why many cheek implants will give you that "apple bottom" cheek appearance it's because they're both usually lowset and are placed in front of your face (which is called anterior projection), thus they don't do anything to give your skin that crucial side support. Most implants are also of the "submalar" variant which are designed to be placed below the malar region. There exists a far less commonly used "malar" design that's (as the name suggests) placed directly on the malar region. Considering most patients of implants are both women and usually very old it's easy to see why a "fuller" more "rounded" implant might seem more tempting but if you're a guy and young you really want to stay away from these.

Malar implants:
View attachment 3155666

Submalar (AKA Subhuman) implants:
View attachment 3155668

Difference in cheek implant placement is demonstrated in this video:


Some people will get a bit carried away and insist you NEED custom implants for them to look decent but in reality you really just need to place them laterally and not too low. Most examples provided down below aren't the result of custom implants.

Spoiler: Cheek augmenation results

View attachment 3155634
Procedures: cheek + jaw implants, whether they're custom or not is unknown.

View attachment 3155638
(Top two images) Procedures: cheek filler + brow lifts (Bottom image) off the shelf cheek and chin implants.

View attachment 3155648
Procedures: off the shelf cheek implants.

View attachment 3155649
Procedures: off the shelf cheek and chin implants + facelift.

View attachment 3155651
Procedures: facial filler sculpting + brow lift.

STEP 2 & 3: INFRA ORBITAL IMPLANTS + LOWER BLEPHAROPLASTY

I'll explain why I'm combining two procedures into one. I reckon most of .org is already familiar with this procedure. But for those who don't know infra orbital implants are implants that go directly underneath the eye area to help remedy a depressed looking under eye region. They're great at providing direct support and making an eye look a little less buggy.

View attachment 3155680

As for a lower blepharoplasty it's a prodecure that removes some excess skin underneath the eye to give the area a tighter appearance. Now the reason I pair both of these together is because adding an infraorbital implant alone isn't usually enough to fix the area directly underneath your eye area and most infra orbital implant results will be paired with some form of blepharoplasty or canthoplasty. In fact it was rather hard to find infra orbital implant results that weren't paired with some sort of undereye skin tightening which again is a reason I have these two procedures paired together.

Also much like malar implants there do exists some off the shelf designs so custom implants aren't always needed for this. Sometimes they'll go by the name "flowers implant".

Spoiler: Infra orbital + various skin tightening results

View attachment 3155690
Procedures: infra orbital implant + canthoplasty

View attachment 3155699
Procedures: infraorbital implants.

View attachment 3155714
Procedures: infra orbital implant + lower blepharoplasty.

STEP 4: FIXING DISCOLOURATION

Alright so one thing a lot of people with subhuman eye areas deal with is hyper pigmentation below the eye which causes the undereye area to look very dark. Usually this is genetic and more prominent amongst non white populations. So here are a few ways you can help remedy this.

KOJIC ACID SOAP
Kojic acid soap is as the name suggests, an acidic soap that's really good at evening out the skin tone. If you struggle with patches of skin that look dark and dead paired with the rest of your face this is a good way to treat it though warning kojic acid soap WILL HEAVILY DRY OUT your skin so be sure to moisturise. There are far more guides on the net on how to properly use kojic acid soap so feel free to read up on guides made by people far more experienced than I.

View attachment 3155724

QUICK PSA: KOJIC ACID SOAP DOES NOT LIGHTEN YOUR SKIN IT WILL ONLY EVEN OUT YOUR SKIN TONE

Alright I'm going to chimp out for a little and maybe go a little off topic but it's related to kojic acid soap and it fills me with way too much rage but way too many FUCKING SNAKE OIL SALESMEN will try to convince you that kojic acid soap can whiten your skin. IT CANNOT I REPEAT IT CANNOT. The only so called "proof" of this will always be someone taking a picture within the caves of Mumbai and then pairing it with a giga washed out photo that's frauded beyond belief. You WILL NOT lighten your skin with kojic acid. To all these fucking snake oil salesmen who try to convince you that you can GENUINELY FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES I HOPE YOU DIE IN THE BACK ALLEYS OF MUMBAI AND SOME MIDDLE AGED INDIAN MAN ASSAULTS YOUR DEAD ASS CORPSE. MAYBE DYING AND ROTTING LIKE A CORPSE WILL FINALLY CAUSE YOU TO OBTAIN LIGHTER SKIN.

View attachment 3155732

I swear kojic acid soap brought me down so many fake skin lightening rabbit holes I'm so sick of it. I needed to vent about this madness. I'm so tired of these fucking sheboons and poojeetas turning the flash on their cameras and claiming this stuff will make you at all lighter. I sincerely repeat. Kojic acid soap will only even out your skin tone. NOT LIGHTEN IT.

UNDER EYE LASER TREATMENT
Oh yeah you can also use lasers to deal with under eye discolouration by lasering away some areas of hyperpigmentation. You can find some genuinely decent results out there but this along with using kojic acid soap should really be the final touches to your eye area.

View attachment 3155749

Spoiler: BONUS ROUND: CANTHOPLASTY

I feel this isn't something I should leave out but canthoplasty can also drastically change your eye region by screwing around with soft tissue. The only reason it's not getting it's own specialised section is because canthoplasty is a massive wildcard. You really have to trust a surgeon to have an aesthetic eye when preforming a canthoplasty and you run a high risk of becoming botched whilst all the steps above don't really require too much aesthetic knowledge as long as you get your surgeon to do the basic job. There's potential to genuinely achieve a chad eye area with this but it's way too risky for me to so easily recommend.

View attachment 3155750

Spoiler: BONUS ROUND PART TWO: UPPER EYE FAT GRAFTING/BOTOX AND OTHER UPPER EYE STUFF

Some users on .org have achieved some lifefuel results by tweaking around their upper eye area but unfortunately there's very little info on these procedures outside of .org users exploring uncharted territory.

View attachment 3155761
Procedures: fat grafts to the top of the eyes.

View attachment 3155762
Procedures: botox applied to the brows to lower the region and cover up UEE.

View attachment 3155763
Procedures: brow implants that can help address a flat upper eye region.

WRAPING IT UP:

I know these are a lot of rather invasive steps but unfortunately fixing a subhuman eye area doesn't have one cure. It's not like a recessed chin that can either be fixed with simply augmenting the chin or undergoing bimax. Most failos don't require such a multi-step process to fix like the eye area.

Here are a few eye ascensions that consist of going under various surgeries ranging from implants to fat transfers to some form of canthoplasty.

View attachment 3155768

View attachment 3155771

Alright enough gatekeeping my knowledge. Well it's less that I was gatekeeping and more so just collecting until I had a place to dump it all in. These will all be things I will hop to be getting done myself in the future and I hope this guide can help "guide" you in the right direction for any of you abused dogs who have no idea where to start for improving your eye area.

high iq thread bhai

 

[RoyaleWithCheese]

Any tips for getting infras? @WanderingBurro

 

[saynotoshredding]

Some people will tell you that it doesn't matter how strong your facial features are, if your eye area is below the MTN range there is no salvation. It is truly a make or break area of the face. Considering my eyes are one of my largest failos and I see many here struggling with theirs I'll share various tidbits of info I've gathered. Listen this is a no BS guide. Most of these methods WILL REQUIRE surgery. I'm not going to sell you any "just mew" or "just ice" cope. Some of these copes can maybe help to minorly improve a MTN-HTN eye area but this guide will solely be focused on an LTN to subhuman eye area. Keep in mind that these probably won't give you a chad eye area but should at least stop your eyes from being an active failo.

STEP 1: CHEEK AUGMENTATION

Consider this to be setting the foundation to your eye area. Without proper malar support trying to fix your eye area will be a rather futile effort. Strong LATERAL (I'll explain my emphasis in a moment) will help to prop up a sagging droopy appearance of the skin. Key features of an underdeveloped lateral projection is a tired looking face despite being well rested, a "chubby" face despite being rather lean, very prominent nasolabial folds or eyebags at a young age.

TEST IT OUT:
Take the skin on your midface and pull it SIDEWAYS, you might notice that your eye area improves significantly and if this is the case you are lacking in lateral projection. Remember NOT to pull upwards, this would more so mimic a facial lift which lateral malar projection won't give you. Only pull SIDEWAYS I repeat.

Now the only way to really fix this is to laterally augment your cheeks. Whilst this can be done with filler you're really going to want to go with implants for longevity. Just keep in mind that you want LATERAL projection. If you ever wonder why many cheek implants will give you that "apple bottom" cheek appearance it's because they're both usually lowset and are placed in front of your face (which is called anterior projection), thus they don't do anything to give your skin that crucial side support. Most implants are also of the "submalar" variant which are designed to be placed below the malar region. There exists a far less commonly used "malar" design that's (as the name suggests) placed directly on the malar region. Considering most patients of implants are both women and usually very old it's easy to see why a "fuller" more "rounded" implant might seem more tempting but if you're a guy and young you really want to stay away from these.

Malar implants:
View attachment 3155666

Submalar (AKA Subhuman) implants:
View attachment 3155668

Difference in cheek implant placement is demonstrated in this video:


Some people will get a bit carried away and insist you NEED custom implants for them to look decent but in reality you really just need to place them laterally and not too low. Most examples provided down below aren't the result of custom implants.

Spoiler: Cheek augmenation results

View attachment 3155634
Procedures: cheek + jaw implants, whether they're custom or not is unknown.

View attachment 3155638
(Top two images) Procedures: cheek filler + brow lifts (Bottom image) off the shelf cheek and chin implants.

View attachment 3155648
Procedures: off the shelf cheek implants.

View attachment 3155649
Procedures: off the shelf cheek and chin implants + facelift.

View attachment 3155651
Procedures: facial filler sculpting + brow lift.

STEP 2 & 3: INFRA ORBITAL IMPLANTS + LOWER BLEPHAROPLASTY

I'll explain why I'm combining two procedures into one. I reckon most of .org is already familiar with this procedure. But for those who don't know infra orbital implants are implants that go directly underneath the eye area to help remedy a depressed looking under eye region. They're great at providing direct support and making an eye look a little less buggy.

View attachment 3155680

As for a lower blepharoplasty it's a prodecure that removes some excess skin underneath the eye to give the area a tighter appearance. Now the reason I pair both of these together is because adding an infraorbital implant alone isn't usually enough to fix the area directly underneath your eye area and most infra orbital implant results will be paired with some form of blepharoplasty or canthoplasty. In fact it was rather hard to find infra orbital implant results that weren't paired with some sort of undereye skin tightening which again is a reason I have these two procedures paired together.

Also much like malar implants there do exists some off the shelf designs so custom implants aren't always needed for this. Sometimes they'll go by the name "flowers implant".

Spoiler: Infra orbital + various skin tightening results

View attachment 3155690
Procedures: infra orbital implant + canthoplasty

View attachment 3155699
Procedures: infraorbital implants.

View attachment 3155714
Procedures: infra orbital implant + lower blepharoplasty.

STEP 4: FIXING DISCOLOURATION

Alright so one thing a lot of people with subhuman eye areas deal with is hyper pigmentation below the eye which causes the undereye area to look very dark. Usually this is genetic and more prominent amongst non white populations. So here are a few ways you can help remedy this.

KOJIC ACID SOAP
Kojic acid soap is as the name suggests, an acidic soap that's really good at evening out the skin tone. If you struggle with patches of skin that look dark and dead paired with the rest of your face this is a good way to treat it though warning kojic acid soap WILL HEAVILY DRY OUT your skin so be sure to moisturise. There are far more guides on the net on how to properly use kojic acid soap so feel free to read up on guides made by people far more experienced than I.

View attachment 3155724

QUICK PSA: KOJIC ACID SOAP DOES NOT LIGHTEN YOUR SKIN IT WILL ONLY EVEN OUT YOUR SKIN TONE

Alright I'm going to chimp out for a little and maybe go a little off topic but it's related to kojic acid soap and it fills me with way too much rage but way too many FUCKING SNAKE OIL SALESMEN will try to convince you that kojic acid soap can whiten your skin. IT CANNOT I REPEAT IT CANNOT. The only so called "proof" of this will always be someone taking a picture within the caves of Mumbai and then pairing it with a giga washed out photo that's frauded beyond belief. You WILL NOT lighten your skin with kojic acid. To all these fucking snake oil salesmen who try to convince you that you can GENUINELY FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES I HOPE YOU DIE IN THE BACK ALLEYS OF MUMBAI AND SOME MIDDLE AGED INDIAN MAN ASSAULTS YOUR DEAD ASS CORPSE. MAYBE DYING AND ROTTING LIKE A CORPSE WILL FINALLY CAUSE YOU TO OBTAIN LIGHTER SKIN.

View attachment 3155732

I swear kojic acid soap brought me down so many fake skin lightening rabbit holes I'm so sick of it. I needed to vent about this madness. I'm so tired of these fucking sheboons and poojeetas turning the flash on their cameras and claiming this stuff will make you at all lighter. I sincerely repeat. Kojic acid soap will only even out your skin tone. NOT LIGHTEN IT.

UNDER EYE LASER TREATMENT
Oh yeah you can also use lasers to deal with under eye discolouration by lasering away some areas of hyperpigmentation. You can find some genuinely decent results out there but this along with using kojic acid soap should really be the final touches to your eye area.

View attachment 3155749

Spoiler: BONUS ROUND: CANTHOPLASTY

I feel this isn't something I should leave out but canthoplasty can also drastically change your eye region by screwing around with soft tissue. The only reason it's not getting it's own specialised section is because canthoplasty is a massive wildcard. You really have to trust a surgeon to have an aesthetic eye when preforming a canthoplasty and you run a high risk of becoming botched whilst all the steps above don't really require too much aesthetic knowledge as long as you get your surgeon to do the basic job. There's potential to genuinely achieve a chad eye area with this but it's way too risky for me to so easily recommend.

View attachment 3155750

Spoiler: BONUS ROUND PART TWO: UPPER EYE FAT GRAFTING/BOTOX AND OTHER UPPER EYE STUFF

Some users on .org have achieved some lifefuel results by tweaking around their upper eye area but unfortunately there's very little info on these procedures outside of .org users exploring uncharted territory.

View attachment 3155761
Procedures: fat grafts to the top of the eyes.

View attachment 3155762
Procedures: botox applied to the brows to lower the region and cover up UEE.

View attachment 3155763
Procedures: brow implants that can help address a flat upper eye region.

WRAPING IT UP:

I know these are a lot of rather invasive steps but unfortunately fixing a subhuman eye area doesn't have one cure. It's not like a recessed chin that can either be fixed with simply augmenting the chin or undergoing bimax. Most failos don't require such a multi-step process to fix like the eye area.

Here are a few eye ascensions that consist of going under various surgeries ranging from implants to fat transfers to some form of canthoplasty.

View attachment 3155768

View attachment 3155771

Alright enough gatekeeping my knowledge. Well it's less that I was gatekeeping and more so just collecting until I had a place to dump it all in. These will all be things I will hop to be getting done myself in the future and I hope this guide can help "guide" you in the right direction for any of you abused dogs who have no idea where to start for improving your eye area.

good guide, BOTB material

 

[JustHereToLooksmax]

Just make sure you refer to them as the malar region to your surgeon. Zygos is purely an .org'ism and will only make doctors look at you weird.

I thought it was a scientific term bhai

 

[JustHereToLooksmax]

Have already hunter eyes
View attachment 3163429

Green-Hazel contacts and you will mog

 

[Deleted member 70692]

Green-Hazel contacts and you will mog

its squintmaxing

 

[WanderingBurro]

I thought it was a scientific term bhai

"Zygomatic arch" is the term, "zygos" is PSL brainrot.