No girl is ever going to want you with a downswung maxailla

[Deleted member 21044]

Can I get great results from clenching at 22?

Yes but it will be very slow. Might take tens of years to remodel.

 

[baldgeeza]

bad protocol

fuck you, what else would you do ?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Not too sure but I think it's probably 4 maybe 3 (I naturally have lots of body hair so it's kinda hard to know), I know I'm not done growing at least. When is it too late to change it?

Yea you can probably get good and fast results.

 

[fyte]

fuck you, what else would you do ?

i would try to reverse what caused it, fuck you too

 

[JCaesar]

Yea you can probably get good and fast results.

Ohh, is it possible to completely fix the downgrowth or just help it a bit? I guess tanner stage 5 is where results would end? I'm probably at stage 4 I think

 

[Deleted member 21044]

if your ramus is straight your GA is a good measurement

The ramus angle is pretty cope if you want a good marker of downward growth you need to measure the angle between the gonion and frankfurt perpendicular.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Ohh, is it possible to completely fix the downgrowth or just help it a bit? I guess tanner stage 5 is where results would end? I'm probably at stage 4 I think

You might be able to reverse like 80% of it before 20 from the cases i seen.

 

[Deleted member 25743]

Yes but it will be very slow. Might take tens of years to remodel.

Is this bad downward growth?

 

[baldgeeza]

Is this bad downward growth?

yes definelty

 

[Deleted member 24789]

oh no its over for us

 

[JCaesar]

You might be able to reverse like 80% of it before 20 from the cases i seen.

Thanks dr, don't wanna bother you lol but would bruxism help it or is that just autism? And is there any other way to treat it (besides clenching)?

 

[Deleted member 25743]

yes definelty

Its over

 

[baldgeeza]

Its over

wait for dr bruh reply it might it be lmao

 

[Deleted member 21044]

opinions vary, i think 90 looks shit on most people, a little bit of downward growth is preferable

so yea 100-115 range probably

90 is ideal, if it looks bad it's because of ther features. Higher angles make your face look weak and melted.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Is this bad downward growth?

Very bad.

 

[Deleted member 15468]

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90 is ideal, if it looks bad it's because of ther features. Higher angles make your face look weak and melted.

first looks like shit agreed

but for hacker and opry the downward growth isnt a brutal failo at all imo

 

[baldgeeza]

first looks like shit agreed

but for hacker and opry the downward growth isnt a brutal failo at all imo

they r not downward grown theyre maxillas are horizontal they just have bad gonial angle genes

 

[Deleted member 21044]

first looks like shit agreed

but for hacker and opry the downward growth isnt a brutal failo at all imo

It's because they have other great features, hacker has maxilla and opry has eyes. But they will never create genuine raw sexual attraction like a proprely forward grown masculine chad.

 

[Deleted member 25743]

Very bad

Is it over?

 

[Deleted member 15468]

they r not downward grown theyre maxillas are horizontal they just have bad gonial angle genes

their mandibles are somwhat downward grown

 

[Deleted member 21044]

they r not downward grown theyre maxillas are horizontal they just have bad gonial angle genes

No such thing as bad genes... You said it yourself. You never see animals with downward growth.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Is it over?

Idk how the rest of your face looks, you could still be good looking overall. But the angle is very bad yea.

 

[Deleted member 26116]

Could you rate me and give me advice?

Rate me and give me advice

This is my first time doing this. I wonder what the ratings will be. I can tell beforehand that I have to lose some weight. What else do you recommend?

looksmax.org

You can be mean so long as you provide me with valuable information of which I can make use to improve my appearance.

 

[Deleted member 25743]

Idk how the rest of your face looks, you could still be good looking overall. But the angle is very bad yea.

Do u rate in pm?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Do u rate in pm?

Sure.

 

[baldgeeza]

Could you rate me and give me advice?

Rate me and give me advice

This is my first time doing this. I wonder what the ratings will be. I can tell beforehand that I have to lose some weight. What else do you recommend?

looksmax.org

You can be mean so long as you provide me with valuable information of which I can make use to improve my appearance.

lmaooo i was just messing lad, yeah get tan, hit gym, lower bf% (which is good cuz u have gd jaw), ur young so get a fluffy hairstle which covers your forhead JB love that shit, ur eye area is decent aswell

this is off the top of my head

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Also look at how hacker tilts his head up in literally every pic to fraud a better gonial angle jfl. @Hoso @ripcordgod1

 

[Deleted member 26116]

lmaooo i was just messing lad, yeah get tan, hit gym, lower bf% (which is good cuz u have gd jaw), ur young so get a fluffy hairstle which covers your forhead JB love that shit, ur eye area is decent aswell

this is off the top of my head

Thanks. I am writing down all the valuable information I can find in order to improve my appearance. I will embark on my looksmax journey on May 1st.

 

[Deleted member 15468]

Also look at how hacker tilts his head up in literally every pic to fraud a better gonial angle jfl. @Hoso @ripcordgod1

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idk why he always takes these shots from below his jaw, makes his downward growth and NCT look even more brutal

 

[Deleted member 21044]

idk why he always takes these shots from below his jaw, makes his downward growth and NCT look even more brutal

He would look fucking horrible if he took a pic in frankfurt plane. His gonial angle is like 125 or soemthing, he has to perma tiltfraud, which makes his nct really bad.

 

[howtoloooksmax?]

Not all day and i use mouthguard to avoid erosion. It ascended me, it's no joke.

savior, so basically I just keep my teeth biting together with some pressure?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

savior, so basically I just keep my teeth biting together with some pressure?

Yes but only lightly otherwise you will fuck up your teeth. If you wanna clench hard, use a mouthguard like i do.

 

[howtoloooksmax?]

Yes but only lightly otherwise you will fuck up your teeth. If you wanna clench hard, use a mouthguard like i do.

most effective results would be clenching with moderate pressure + mouthguard then? is there a significant difference in the long-term between the two?

 

[Deleted member 15468]

Yes but only lightly otherwise you will fuck up your teeth. If you wanna clench hard, use a mouthguard like i do.

luckily i still have a mouthguard laying around

you think itll make a big firrence? im already 23

 

[Deleted member 21044]

most effective results would be clenching with moderate pressure + mouthguard then? is there a significant difference in the long-term between the two?

Most effective is hard with mouthguard. No long term difference just protect your teeth.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

luckily i still have a mouthguard laying around

you think itll make a big firrence? im already 23

Decrease in gonial angle will be very slow. But you will have masseter hypertrophy within a week amd masseter induced bone apposition on your gonions within half a year, which will make your jaw wider. It's a good looksmax too, works good in older age as well.

 

[Deleted member 15468]

Decrease in gonial angle will be very slow. But you will have masseter hypertrophy within a week amd masseter induced bone apposition on your gonions within half a year, which will make your jaw wider. It's a good looksmax too, works good in older age as well.

i chewed gum 24/7 every day in puberty, do you think that had an impact on bone development?

 

[Deleted member 15468]

Decrease in gonial angle will be very slow. But you will have masseter hypertrophy within a week amd masseter induced bone apposition on your gonions within half a year, which will make your jaw wider. It's a good looksmax too, works good in older age as well.

wider jaw alone is worth it

 

[Deleted member 21044]

i chewed gum 24/7 every day in puberty, do you think that had an impact on bone development?

Yes 100%.

 

[garoupilled_]

good thread

 

[Deleted member 8758]

if your downswung, its over... completly. genetically we are all supposed to be forwardly grown so downswing signifies a poor health indicator which is unnatractive also being downswung obliterates your jaw from side and front as it lengthens ur mid face. i challenge any of you to show me an attarctive male with downswung face

fuck soft maxxing you should 100% focus on improving maxilla there are methods like towel pulling, towel clenching, chewing with your incisors puts pressure on ur maxilla aswell, thumbpulling and pallet expansion

my go to protocal would be chew gum w incisors, mewing worlds thumbpulling techniques and other relaxation techniques and then towel pulling

No facepulling for your subhuman basal sphenoid angle.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Surgery

 

[It'snotover]

Mewing won't do anything, only prevents more downgrowth. Clenching will reverse it easily if you're prepubescent and even at older age you can get great results.



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High iq and good content, but i just have two questions:
1)Is clanching still worth it at 17? We all know the lower jaw grow until 20 years but how much depends case by case. I'm a late bloomer.
2) can it worsen tmj/tinnitus? Mastic gave me one of these two for months and i'm scared to get that fucking crack in my ears again. For now i'm coping with normal gum.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

High iq and good content, but i just have two questions:
1)Is clanching still worth it at 17? We all know the lower jaw grow until 20 years but how much depends case by case. I'm a late bloomer.

Yes.

2) can it worsen tmj/tinnitus? Mastic gave me one of these two for months and i'm scared to get that fucking crack in my ears again. For now i'm coping with normal gum.

No. Tmj is a result of calcium or collagen deficiency so eat more dairy and fat meat.

 

[Whatashame]

Yes.

No. Tmj is a result of calcium or collagen deficiency so eat more dairy and fat meat.

why do u think that? i have tmd but i think it was caused by the braces.