No gym for your face

[Jatt]

Spending years obsessively lifting weights in hopes of becoming more attractive ultimately fails for most men because it focuses on a secondary trait (the body) while ignoring the primary drivers of attraction: the face and height. Specifically the bone structure of the face and how it looks overall. Numerous studies and real-world data show that women prioritise facial aesthetics and height far more than muscle mass when it comes to dating and mate selection. For instance, a 2020 study published in Evolutionary Psychology found that women consistently ranked facial attractiveness and height as significantly more important than body muscularity when choosing both short-term and long-term partners. On dating apps, where split-second impressions matter, men with symmetrical, sharp facial features—even if skinny or not particularly muscular—consistently receive far more matches than average-faced men with athletic builds. In fact, data from Tinder and OKCupid reveals that tall, good-looking men with minimal gym presence often dominate the top percentile of male profiles, while shorter or unattractive men no matter how ripped—struggle to gain traction. This effect is even more pronounced online, where curated photos highlight facial structure and height cues (like proportions or body ratios), and physical presence or charisma can’t compensate. While working out can boost confidence and improve posture, it cannot fundamentally change facial bone structure or increase stature—traits largely determined by genetics and prenatal factors. In truth, unless a man already has a reasonably attractive face or is tall (generally over 5’11”), hitting the gym is unlikely to meaningfully improve his romantic prospects. Muscles might impress other men or earn respect in male spaces, but in the competitive dating market, they are rarely the deciding factor. Time spent obsessively building muscle—without addressing more important variables like facial harmony, skin quality, or perceived height—is often a psychological coping mechanism, not a practical strategy.

All of you will say, ‘Well, I don’t use dating apps, I just date girls I meet in real life.’” But that argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, because the exact same visual filtering happens in person just even faster. Countless neuroscience studies have shown that humans, especially women, assess facial attractiveness within milliseconds some researchers estimate as little as 13 milliseconds is all it takes for the brain to make a snap decision on whether someone is attractive or not. That judgment happens before you speak, before you show personality, before status or humor can even register. It’s instinctive, automatic, and almost impossible to override. Women’s brains are biologically wired to rapidly assess facial cues jawline, eye spacing, symmetry, skin clarity, and more—because for most of evolutionary history, those cues were linked to health, good genes, and fertility.

You think that the ugly guy with the ripped bulked up physique is more attractive then the skinny guy with the chad fac because your a male and men think

being ripped = attractive

but females don’t even care about that they only care about your face and height and if your face is attractive especially on dating apps and in real life were your face is always shown on a screen and women can stripe right or left to it it take women 13 milliseconds to look at your face and decipher if there attracted to you or not

Stop thinking like a man think like a woman

 

[Deleted member 110398]

Dnr sorry

 

[superpsycho]

its so over for me

 

[lastredeemer]

TLDR:

 

[valentine]

gym is COPE

 

[xzx_]

dnr

 

[jaaba]

Spending years obsessively lifting weights in hopes of becoming more attractive ultimately fails for most men because it focuses on a secondary trait (the body) while ignoring the primary drivers of attraction: the face and height. Specifically the bone structure of the face and how it looks overall. Numerous studies and real-world data show that women prioritise facial aesthetics and height far more than muscle mass when it comes to dating and mate selection. For instance, a 2020 study published in Evolutionary Psychology found that women consistently ranked facial attractiveness and height as significantly more important than body muscularity when choosing both short-term and long-term partners. On dating apps, where split-second impressions matter, men with symmetrical, sharp facial features—even if skinny or not particularly muscular—consistently receive far more matches than average-faced men with athletic builds. In fact, data from Tinder and OKCupid reveals that tall, good-looking men with minimal gym presence often dominate the top percentile of male profiles, while shorter or unattractive men no matter how ripped—struggle to gain traction. This effect is even more pronounced online, where curated photos highlight facial structure and height cues (like proportions or body ratios), and physical presence or charisma can’t compensate. While working out can boost confidence and improve posture, it cannot fundamentally change facial bone structure or increase stature—traits largely determined by genetics and prenatal factors. In truth, unless a man already has a reasonably attractive face or is tall (generally over 5’11”), hitting the gym is unlikely to meaningfully improve his romantic prospects. Muscles might impress other men or earn respect in male spaces, but in the competitive dating market, they are rarely the deciding factor. Time spent obsessively building muscle—without addressing more important variables like facial harmony, skin quality, or perceived height—is often a psychological coping mechanism, not a practical strategy.

All of you will say, ‘Well, I don’t use dating apps, I just date girls I meet in real life.’” But that argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, because the exact same visual filtering happens in person just even faster. Countless neuroscience studies have shown that humans, especially women, assess facial attractiveness within milliseconds some researchers estimate as little as 13 milliseconds is all it takes for the brain to make a snap decision on whether someone is attractive or not. That judgment happens before you speak, before you show personality, before status or humor can even register. It’s instinctive, automatic, and almost impossible to override. Women’s brains are biologically wired to rapidly assess facial cues jawline, eye spacing, symmetry, skin clarity, and more—because for most of evolutionary history, those cues were linked to health, good genes, and fertility.

You think that the ugly guy with the ripped bulked up physique is more attractive then the skinny guy with the chad fac because your a male and men think

being ripped = attractive

but females don’t even care about that they only care about your face and height and if your face is attractive especially on dating apps and in real life were your face is always shown on a screen and women can stripe right or left to it it take women 13 milliseconds to look at your face and decipher if there attracted to you or not

Stop thinking like a man think like a woman

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First image could not be more brutal

 

[xlimz]

HOLY MOLECULE

 

[enlightful]

Tbh girls that are higher on the attractiveness scale tend to care less abt facial attractiveness in men, its mainly beckies that care the most about height and face and since most females are beckies it results in most females caring most abt face and height

 

[LTNUser]

Tbh girls that are higher on the attractiveness scale tend to care less abt facial attractiveness in men, its mainly beckies that care the most about height and face and since most females are beckies it results in most females caring most abt face and height

Females only care about face,not height
From what I've seen atleast

 

[True truecel]

Females only care about face,not height
From what I've seen atleast

what kinda nonsense is this

why would a woman not care about height

 

[DepthsOfDespair2020]

Tbh girls that are higher on the attractiveness scale tend to care less abt facial attractiveness in men, its mainly beckies that care the most about height and face and since most females are beckies it results in most females caring most abt face and height

then what do Stacies care about on a man??

 

[DepthsOfDespair2020]

Females only care about face,not height
From what I've seen atleast

In my experience, it does but only as a multiplier, if you are ugly you have 0 SMV so 10 times 0 is still 0, so in that case yes they don't care. But in at least MTN they DO care a lot about it

 

[isis_Bleach]

gym doesnt work its all genetics
inject T youll ascend 1 point if lucky

 

[enlightful]

then what do Stacies care about on a man??

They still care abt looks and height, just to a lesser degree

Like if you're a normie but you present yourself as well as possible, a becky will see through it and still see you as a normie, whereas a stacy might just see you as handsome

 

[enlightful]

then what do Stacies care about on a man??

And stacies focus more on how a guy makes them feel in the present moment rather than looks

So like a low mtn who has game and is charming could do quite well with stacies for they wont care as much abt his psl wheras a becky wont be fazed by his charm and see the normie beneath it all

 

[Bölþorn.Anabolic]

Spending years obsessively lifting weights in hopes of becoming more attractive ultimately fails for most men because it focuses on a secondary trait (the body) while ignoring the primary drivers of attraction: the face and height. Specifically the bone structure of the face and how it looks overall. Numerous studies and real-world data show that women prioritise facial aesthetics and height far more than muscle mass when it comes to dating and mate selection. For instance, a 2020 study published in Evolutionary Psychology found that women consistently ranked facial attractiveness and height as significantly more important than body muscularity when choosing both short-term and long-term partners. On dating apps, where split-second impressions matter, men with symmetrical, sharp facial features—even if skinny or not particularly muscular—consistently receive far more matches than average-faced men with athletic builds. In fact, data from Tinder and OKCupid reveals that tall, good-looking men with minimal gym presence often dominate the top percentile of male profiles, while shorter or unattractive men no matter how ripped—struggle to gain traction. This effect is even more pronounced online, where curated photos highlight facial structure and height cues (like proportions or body ratios), and physical presence or charisma can’t compensate. While working out can boost confidence and improve posture, it cannot fundamentally change facial bone structure or increase stature—traits largely determined by genetics and prenatal factors. In truth, unless a man already has a reasonably attractive face or is tall (generally over 5’11”), hitting the gym is unlikely to meaningfully improve his romantic prospects. Muscles might impress other men or earn respect in male spaces, but in the competitive dating market, they are rarely the deciding factor. Time spent obsessively building muscle—without addressing more important variables like facial harmony, skin quality, or perceived height—is often a psychological coping mechanism, not a practical strategy.

All of you will say, ‘Well, I don’t use dating apps, I just date girls I meet in real life.’” But that argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, because the exact same visual filtering happens in person just even faster. Countless neuroscience studies have shown that humans, especially women, assess facial attractiveness within milliseconds some researchers estimate as little as 13 milliseconds is all it takes for the brain to make a snap decision on whether someone is attractive or not. That judgment happens before you speak, before you show personality, before status or humor can even register. It’s instinctive, automatic, and almost impossible to override. Women’s brains are biologically wired to rapidly assess facial cues jawline, eye spacing, symmetry, skin clarity, and more—because for most of evolutionary history, those cues were linked to health, good genes, and fertility.

You think that the ugly guy with the ripped bulked up physique is more attractive then the skinny guy with the chad fac because your a male and men think

being ripped = attractive

but females don’t even care about that they only care about your face and height and if your face is attractive especially on dating apps and in real life were your face is always shown on a screen and women can stripe right or left to it it take women 13 milliseconds to look at your face and decipher if there attracted to you or not

Stop thinking like a man think like a woman

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[Saint Casanova]

You need both

 

[Old Büll]

I go to the gym to compensate for my lack of bones and so I can make women scared

 

[Rothschild]

dnr

 

[Halcyon0x]

gym is COPE

Choose your poison

 

[Bölþorn.Anabolic]

Spending years obsessively lifting weights in hopes of becoming more attractive ultimately fails for most men because it focuses on a secondary trait (the body) while ignoring the primary drivers of attraction: the face and height. Specifically the bone structure of the face and how it looks overall. Numerous studies and real-world data show that women prioritise facial aesthetics and height far more than muscle mass when it comes to dating and mate selection. For instance, a 2020 study published in Evolutionary Psychology found that women consistently ranked facial attractiveness and height as significantly more important than body muscularity when choosing both short-term and long-term partners. On dating apps, where split-second impressions matter, men with symmetrical, sharp facial features—even if skinny or not particularly muscular—consistently receive far more matches than average-faced men with athletic builds. In fact, data from Tinder and OKCupid reveals that tall, good-looking men with minimal gym presence often dominate the top percentile of male profiles, while shorter or unattractive men no matter how ripped—struggle to gain traction. This effect is even more pronounced online, where curated photos highlight facial structure and height cues (like proportions or body ratios), and physical presence or charisma can’t compensate. While working out can boost confidence and improve posture, it cannot fundamentally change facial bone structure or increase stature—traits largely determined by genetics and prenatal factors. In truth, unless a man already has a reasonably attractive face or is tall (generally over 5’11”), hitting the gym is unlikely to meaningfully improve his romantic prospects. Muscles might impress other men or earn respect in male spaces, but in the competitive dating market, they are rarely the deciding factor. Time spent obsessively building muscle—without addressing more important variables like facial harmony, skin quality, or perceived height—is often a psychological coping mechanism, not a practical strategy.

All of you will say, ‘Well, I don’t use dating apps, I just date girls I meet in real life.’” But that argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, because the exact same visual filtering happens in person just even faster. Countless neuroscience studies have shown that humans, especially women, assess facial attractiveness within milliseconds some researchers estimate as little as 13 milliseconds is all it takes for the brain to make a snap decision on whether someone is attractive or not. That judgment happens before you speak, before you show personality, before status or humor can even register. It’s instinctive, automatic, and almost impossible to override. Women’s brains are biologically wired to rapidly assess facial cues jawline, eye spacing, symmetry, skin clarity, and more—because for most of evolutionary history, those cues were linked to health, good genes, and fertility.

You think that the ugly guy with the ripped bulked up physique is more attractive then the skinny guy with the chad fac because your a male and men think

being ripped = attractive

but females don’t even care about that they only care about your face and height and if your face is attractive especially on dating apps and in real life were your face is always shown on a screen and women can stripe right or left to it it take women 13 milliseconds to look at your face and decipher if there attracted to you or not

Stop thinking like a man think like a woman

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[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Bro used a skinny twig versus a sub5 fat roider. Holy cherry pick. Show an aesthetic dude with mtn face and then see who will pull more. Physique is 20 percent of ur smv and if it is really lean and aesthetic and big but not too big it will EVEN carry your normies ass to Chad territory jfl

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Bro used a skinny twig versus a sub5 fat roider. Holy cherry pick. Show an aesthetic dude with mtn face and then see who will pull more. Physique is 20 percent of ur smv and if it is really lean and aesthetic and big but not too big it will EVEN carry your normies ass to Chad territory jfl

You need both

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[RealFunkyFlamingo]

gym doesnt work its all genetics
inject T youll ascend 1 point if lucky

Natty in 2025 is a huge mistake. Youll bulk bulk bulk and only gain fat and get uglier ofc most guys say gym is cope if thats all they do. Just take test after 1 yr natty or other ped. Dumbcels

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

gym is COPE

For foids kinda if ur physique is not aesthetic. Overall? Hell nah. U will look fragile as hell and no one will respect ur skinny fat ass

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Spending years obsessively lifting weights in hopes of becoming more attractive ultimately fails for most men because it focuses on a secondary trait (the body) while ignoring the primary drivers of attraction: the face and height. Specifically the bone structure of the face and how it looks overall. Numerous studies and real-world data show that women prioritise facial aesthetics and height far more than muscle mass when it comes to dating and mate selection. For instance, a 2020 study published in Evolutionary Psychology found that women consistently ranked facial attractiveness and height as significantly more important than body muscularity when choosing both short-term and long-term partners. On dating apps, where split-second impressions matter, men with symmetrical, sharp facial features—even if skinny or not particularly muscular—consistently receive far more matches than average-faced men with athletic builds. In fact, data from Tinder and OKCupid reveals that tall, good-looking men with minimal gym presence often dominate the top percentile of male profiles, while shorter or unattractive men no matter how ripped—struggle to gain traction. This effect is even more pronounced online, where curated photos highlight facial structure and height cues (like proportions or body ratios), and physical presence or charisma can’t compensate. While working out can boost confidence and improve posture, it cannot fundamentally change facial bone structure or increase stature—traits largely determined by genetics and prenatal factors. In truth, unless a man already has a reasonably attractive face or is tall (generally over 5’11”), hitting the gym is unlikely to meaningfully improve his romantic prospects. Muscles might impress other men or earn respect in male spaces, but in the competitive dating market, they are rarely the deciding factor. Time spent obsessively building muscle—without addressing more important variables like facial harmony, skin quality, or perceived height—is often a psychological coping mechanism, not a practical strategy.

All of you will say, ‘Well, I don’t use dating apps, I just date girls I meet in real life.’” But that argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, because the exact same visual filtering happens in person just even faster. Countless neuroscience studies have shown that humans, especially women, assess facial attractiveness within milliseconds some researchers estimate as little as 13 milliseconds is all it takes for the brain to make a snap decision on whether someone is attractive or not. That judgment happens before you speak, before you show personality, before status or humor can even register. It’s instinctive, automatic, and almost impossible to override. Women’s brains are biologically wired to rapidly assess facial cues jawline, eye spacing, symmetry, skin clarity, and more—because for most of evolutionary history, those cues were linked to health, good genes, and fertility.

You think that the ugly guy with the ripped bulked up physique is more attractive then the skinny guy with the chad fac because your a male and men think

being ripped = attractive

but females don’t even care about that they only care about your face and height and if your face is attractive especially on dating apps and in real life were your face is always shown on a screen and women can stripe right or left to it it take women 13 milliseconds to look at your face and decipher if there attracted to you or not

Stop thinking like a man think like a woman

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These pics of the guy u used in the example mogs ur bloodline u skinny fat twig looking ahhh

 

[looksmaxxed]

a strong gymmaxxed person will be better than any twink no matter their place in society, because civilization is impermanent, and if you are not a size mogger, you will be easily dominated and killed in a low trust society. all it would take is to sabotage the power grid, or wait for some catastrophe or civil unrest, and the twinks will be easy targets. strong people are less easy to kill.

a strong person can physically overpower the richest person in the world, hold him hostage, and take everything from him, in a hypothetical scenario where the tenuous rule of law has been temporarily interrupted. remember that video of the fat yakut slitting the ukrainian twink's throat?

even when it comes to tools, more mass=better handling. a twink can't be as effective in using guns because he doesn't have the mass to pad the recoil, lacks the shoulder and arm strength to hold the gun up for longer periods or manage recoil, is too weak to traverse long distances or survive harsh conditions.

anyone sub 200lbs is basically a goner

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Some girls actually JUST look at ohysique. If it is kinda roided and aesthetic u will get away even with a borderline subhuman face. Most of these girls are either roasties or hoes

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

a strong gymmaxxed person will be better than any twink no matter their place in society, because civilization is impermanent, and if you are not a size mogger, you will be easily dominated and killed in a low trust society. all it would take is to sabotage the power grid, or wait for some catastrophe or civil unrest, and the twinks will be easy targets. strong people are less easy to kill.

a strong person can physically overpower the richest person in the world, hold him hostage, and take everything from him. in a hypothetical scenario where the tenuous rule of law has been temporarily.

even when it comes to tools, more mass=better handling. a twink can't be as effective in using guns because he doesn't have the mass to pad the recoil, lacks the shoulder and arm strength to hold the gun up for longer periods or manage recoil, is too weak to traverse long distances or survive harsh conditions.

anyone sub 200lbs is basically a goner

Being a twink is also just NOT masculine. Also skinny fat is not masculine. A farily lean or bery lean body with enough muscle is law

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

a strong gymmaxxed person will be better than any twink no matter their place in society, because civilization is impermanent, and if you are not a size mogger, you will be easily dominated and killed in a low trust society. all it would take is to sabotage the power grid, or wait for some catastrophe or civil unrest, and the twinks will be easy targets. strong people are less easy to kill.

a strong person can physically overpower the richest person in the world, hold him hostage, and take everything from him, in a hypothetical scenario where the tenuous rule of law has been temporarily interrupted. remember that video of the fat yakut slitting the ukrainian twink's throat?

even when it comes to tools, more mass=better handling. a twink can't be as effective in using guns because he doesn't have the mass to pad the recoil, lacks the shoulder and arm strength to hold the gun up for longer periods or manage recoil, is too weak to traverse long distances or survive harsh conditions.

anyone sub 200lbs is basically a goner

The thing is u cant get to 200lbs while natty without looking like utter shit. You NEED peds not too much but just enough

 

[archie_tucker]

Spending years obsessively lifting weights in hopes of becoming more attractive ultimately fails for most men because it focuses on a secondary trait (the body) while ignoring the primary drivers of attraction: the face and height. Specifically the bone structure of the face and how it looks overall. Numerous studies and real-world data show that women prioritise facial aesthetics and height far more than muscle mass when it comes to dating and mate selection. For instance, a 2020 study published in Evolutionary Psychology found that women consistently ranked facial attractiveness and height as significantly more important than body muscularity when choosing both short-term and long-term partners. On dating apps, where split-second impressions matter, men with symmetrical, sharp facial features—even if skinny or not particularly muscular—consistently receive far more matches than average-faced men with athletic builds. In fact, data from Tinder and OKCupid reveals that tall, good-looking men with minimal gym presence often dominate the top percentile of male profiles, while shorter or unattractive men no matter how ripped—struggle to gain traction. This effect is even more pronounced online, where curated photos highlight facial structure and height cues (like proportions or body ratios), and physical presence or charisma can’t compensate. While working out can boost confidence and improve posture, it cannot fundamentally change facial bone structure or increase stature—traits largely determined by genetics and prenatal factors. In truth, unless a man already has a reasonably attractive face or is tall (generally over 5’11”), hitting the gym is unlikely to meaningfully improve his romantic prospects. Muscles might impress other men or earn respect in male spaces, but in the competitive dating market, they are rarely the deciding factor. Time spent obsessively building muscle—without addressing more important variables like facial harmony, skin quality, or perceived height—is often a psychological coping mechanism, not a practical strategy.

All of you will say, ‘Well, I don’t use dating apps, I just date girls I meet in real life.’” But that argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, because the exact same visual filtering happens in person just even faster. Countless neuroscience studies have shown that humans, especially women, assess facial attractiveness within milliseconds some researchers estimate as little as 13 milliseconds is all it takes for the brain to make a snap decision on whether someone is attractive or not. That judgment happens before you speak, before you show personality, before status or humor can even register. It’s instinctive, automatic, and almost impossible to override. Women’s brains are biologically wired to rapidly assess facial cues jawline, eye spacing, symmetry, skin clarity, and more—because for most of evolutionary history, those cues were linked to health, good genes, and fertility.

You think that the ugly guy with the ripped bulked up physique is more attractive then the skinny guy with the chad fac because your a male and men think

being ripped = attractive

but females don’t even care about that they only care about your face and height and if your face is attractive especially on dating apps and in real life were your face is always shown on a screen and women can stripe right or left to it it take women 13 milliseconds to look at your face and decipher if there attracted to you or not

Stop thinking like a man think like a woman

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fuck my life