Normie but success on online dating!? BP all wrong!?

[wisemen]

Because wheat waffles is retarded. You’re prob decent looking.

Yea, I might be above average, and 6/10 is above average. I also have 2 “big” flaws which don’t let me be a chadlite. So I agree about the face rating. But, I suspect women don’t value the ratings as we men do. For example the other guy in what waffles experiment is 6/10 but have a boring look. I’m 6/10 but looks totally different with same rating, and one of the difference is I don’t look boring. Of course we will have different results from online dating, even though the face rating by men is the same.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

What are your "death tier features" then

nose, eyes,midface, chin, eyeborws

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Learning game isn't going to do much for you if you're a subhuman. It can maybe help a normie score once or twice. So if scoring is really your end goal and you don't mind competing as a MTN then you'd be in some luck. Going from normie to chad is nigh impossible/awfully rare but there are plenty of subhuman to normie transformations out there. They usually require a surgery though a decent amount also benefit from just implementing a decent amount of softmaxxing


Personally I'd be dissatisfied with just that however

He is not subhuman, he just larps for attention

 

[wisemen]

Total silence now when I proved a normie can get a lot of matches without info about height…

 

[RecessedChinCel]

White 6’3 normie baffled on why he gets women

 

[SecularIslamist]

Total silence now when I proved a normie can get a lot of matches without info about height…

You haven't shown you're face. As far as I'm aware you're just a 6'3 chadlite larping as normie..

Screenshot me wheatwaffles rating if you're not going to share face via PMs.

 

[wisemen]

You haven't shown you're face. As far as I'm aware you're just a 6'3 chadlite larping as normie..

Screenshot me wheatwaffles rating if you're not going to share face via PMs.

Seriously, why would I lie? Haha this is insane

http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230205231336-2a00:801:768:f50c:6cc0:3ae9:faf5:2e97.jpeg

 

[wisemen]

Seriously, why would I lie? Haha this is insane

http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230205231336-2a00:801:768:f50c:6cc0:3ae9:faf5:2e97.jpeg

Well he was wrong about low body fat %. Is like 18-20% lol.
How to know if I can have hallow cheek bones when low %? I see my bones when I smile now when I’m skinny fat

 

[SecularIslamist]

Seriously, why would I lie? Haha this is insane

http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230205231336-2a00:801:768:f50c:6cc0:3ae9:faf5:2e97.jpeg

Being 6'3 puts SMV probably same level as 8/10s.

Anyway as you say you had 'sucess' without listing height. I don't believe you actually are a 6/10 as rated by WW buy actually 8/10. Maybe he was slacking in this review - easy to be when your mind has been infected by PSL. At this point no ones going to believe your MTN other than yourself unless you share pics via PM. If you don't that's fine. But we know from stats that the average man has it incredibly tough online. IRL might be different story but online is brutal.

 

[wisemen]

Being 6'3 puts SMV probably same level as 8/10s.

Anyway as you say you had 'sucess' without listing height. I don't believe you actually are a 6/10 as rated by WW buy actually 8/10. Maybe he was slacking in this review - easy to be when your mind has been infected by PSL. At this point no ones going to believe your MTN other than yourself unless you share pics via PM. If you don't that's fine. But we know from stats that the average man has it incredibly tough online. IRL might be different story but online is brutal.

Lol I’m not 8/10 in just face. Did you read my flaws? How can I be that with negative canthal tilt and asymmetry!??
But as I said earlier, I have good quality photos (and I don’t look weird at all in photos). Also don’t expose my flaws in photos? It’s most noticible when looking straight in the camera, like when you take passport photo (but that women also flirted a bit with me when I took passport..)

 

[SecularIslamist]

Lol I’m not 8/10 in just face. Did you read my flaws? How can I be that with negative canthal tilt and asymmetry!??
But as I said earlier, I have good quality photos (and I don’t look weird at all in photos). Also don’t expose my flaws in photos? It’s most noticible when looking straight in the camera, like when you take passport photo (but that women also flirted a bit with me when I took passport..)

Still hard to tell. Not everyone is 100% symmetrical. You can describe your pros and flaws all you want unless some of us see your pics you're just a larper. You don't have to share with me, but there are some trustworthy people here like @TRUE_CEL and @FailedNormieManlet . I'm sure there are other greycels as well but I don't know them that well.

 

[wisemen]

Still hard to tell. Not everyone is 100% symmetrical. You can describe your pros and flaws all you want unless some of us see your pics you're just a larper. You don't have to share with me, but there are some trustworthy people here like @TRUE_CEL and @FailedNormieManlet . I'm sure there are other greycels as well but I don't know them that well.

What would you rate chico?

 

[wisemen]

Still hard to tell. Not everyone is 100% symmetrical. You can describe your pros and flaws all you want unless some of us see your pics you're just a larper. You don't have to share with me, but there are some trustworthy people here like @TRUE_CEL and @FailedNormieManlet . I'm sure there are other greycels as well but I don't know them that well.

But do you even understand what I mean? I have a different face rating depending on angle. Sure, my profile is really good (7/10 maybe), because negative tilt/asymmetry isn’t visible. Other angles is okay. But straight forward is noticing and lower my score.
I do t think that’s so complicated?

 

[loksr]

I have read a lot of black pill last year. I’m 30 years old now, but since I was 16 I’ve always have had women. In the majority of the cases is the women who hits on me, School/job. I don’t have to do the work! But it’s always normie girls, like between 4-6, and I started to thinking about why no 7-10 girls hit on me and ignore me if I hit on them. I searched the internet. I found much red pill and black pill theories. Actually black pill made a bit of sense.

I bought face ratings from all avaible, which all varied.. but Wheat waffles gave me first a 5, then the other time with a totally different haircut he gave me a 6. So let’s say 5.5, I’m a MTN/HTN!?

Well according to black pill I should struggle massively on online dating? But I’m not, it’s the opposite. I’ve never had any need for online dating, but I created a couple of test profiles and did some experiment. Often in USA, since it’s easier to change location to similar cities.
All my photos is taken with iPhone portrait, but it’s good quality photos for sure. I get so many matches that I can’t even possibly read and answer them all if I’m not working full time with it..
a lot of women started conversations like “hey cutie. Hey handsome. I really love your smile. I love your hair.”
My bio is totally trash, I’m only put the flag from my European country, and I write my height 6’3/190 cm in the bio. That’s all. I could easily get more dates that I could manage to have. But I would also say, most girls are white normies I match with. Some few unique matches with a 7, but most cases not.

What’s the conclusion? According to black pill theories I should not have this success with women!? Not irl, or online dating. The things I possibly think of is that black pill might be totally wrong about normies? Or the face rating is totally off in regards of what women think.
Or do I have missed something? I’m so confused.
Note, I don’t even have abs and since I have a pretty high body fat %. But I look slim, like skinny fat. Would I have had abs my matches would have increased I think.

"i'm a 6'3 htn, why am I successful with women?!?! blackpill debunked"
this is what happens when retarded mouthbreathers fall for the incels with 0 experience going "MUH YOU HAVE TO BE GIGACHAD OR YOU'RE INCEL IN 2023"

you are definitely proof to all the iqcopers on here that iq is meaningless though for sure

 

[SecularIslamist]

What would you rate chico?

Chico is a PSL god. Literal 10/10 for me. There are very few PSL gods who are not known. You can probably count them with your fingers.

But do you even understand what I mean? I have a different face rating depending on angle. Sure, my profile is really good (7/10 maybe), because negative tilt/asymmetry isn’t visible. Other angles is okay. But straight forward is noticing and lower my score.
I do t think that’s so complicated?

Based on what you said If you are truly normie, you'll probably make history by being the first person to do so.

 

[wisemen]

"i'm a 6'3 htn, why am I successful with women?!?! blackpill debunked"
this is what happens when retarded mouthbreathers fall for the incels with 0 experience going "MUH YOU HAVE TO BE GIGACHAD OR YOU'RE INCEL IN 2023"

you are definitely proof to all the iqcopers on here that iq is meaningless though for sure

You didn’t read my posts? I removed info about my height in profile, I still got a ton of matches, even more than I can handle.

 

[loksr]

You didn’t read my posts? I removed info about my height in profile, I still got a ton of matches, even more than I can handle.

now you're just being cringe
I mean you were at the start too, but now you're hamming it up

anyway, slightly above average = life on easy mode
everyone who is good looking or knows any good looking people will automatically know this fact
you're finding it out right now

 

[wisemen]

now you're just being cringe
I mean you were at the start too, but now you're hamming it up

anyway, slightly above average = life on easy mode
everyone who is good looking or knows any good looking people will automatically know this fact
you're finding it out right now

How do you explain the experiment wheat waffles did?
We both rated 6/10 and are 6’3
But, we look totally different!! My point is, maybe you can have the same face rating, but one is far more popular among women? Since I did so much better than him (insane difference)

 

[loksr]

How do you explain the experiment wheat waffles did?
We both rated 6/10 and are 6’3
But, we look totally different!! My point is, maybe you can have the same face rating, but one is far more popular among women? Since I did so much better than him (insane difference)

your rating is your experience with women and nothing else
life isn't about rankings it's about thresholds, when you pass the "good looking" threshold, it's life on easy mode now.

jfl at listening to incels and wheat waffles for anything, men cannot rate men, even gay men rate differently to how women rate. If you're successful with women that means your rating is good enough, if you're not it means it's not.
stop overcomplicating shit.

 

[wisemen]

Chico is a PSL god. Literal 10/10 for me. There are very few PSL gods who are not known. You can probably count them with your fingers.


Based on what you said If you are truly normie, you'll probably make history by being the first person to do so.

Okay! I didn’t believe he was at the top, have read some bad about his look..
but anyway, I’m more of chico style than classical “hardcore chad” if you understand what I mean. I have more soft and trusting face. Not at all at chicos level, but in that direction.

 

[WishIwasChico]

Okay! I didn’t believe he was at the top, have read some bad about his look..
but anyway, I’m more of chico style than classical “hardcore chad” if you understand what I mean. I have more soft and trusting face. Not at all at chicos level, but in that direction.

bro stfu asking for a chico rating like you are anywhere near his level. If you and this guy were in the same room with girls you'd soon believe the blackpill again trust me and be crying here when they are all sucking his dick in front of you and you are invisible fuck off with your narcy humble brag.

 

[wisemen]

Still hard to tell. Not everyone is 100% symmetrical. You can describe your pros and flaws all you want unless some of us see your pics you're just a larper. You don't have to share with me, but there are some trustworthy people here like @TRUE_CEL and @FailedNormieManlet . I'm sure there are other greycels as well but I don't know them that well.

Well, I dont think women in general are honest about rating. But I found this answer kind of interesting:

http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230206002808-2a00:801:768:f50c:6cc0:3ae9:faf5:2e97.jpeg

 

[wisemen]

bro stfu asking for a chico rating like you are anywhere near his level. If you and this guy were in the same room with girls you'd soon believe the blackpill again trust me and be crying here when they are all sucking his dick in front of you and you are invisible fuck off with your narcy humble brag.

When did I say I’m at his level?

Actually I went to school with a guy who reminds a lot of him. And yes, he had many many girls. But, I’ve always had girls also, so I was very happy (but not at his level). But still not jealous at all.

 

[hiwasuwor]

I guess because you are 30 years old, tall and got rated 6/10 which is even higher in that age range since older female have less reqruiremts

 

[wisemen]

I guess because you are 30 years old, tall and got rated 6/10 which is even higher in that age range since older female have less reqruiremts

My age range is between 18-32. The majority I match with are between 22-26

 

[Leo69]

Surprised you trolled and fooled this many people. This guy is debunked through one way. He show a guy that is similar to him. He won't, and if he does. Someone can run the guy he is similar with, but he will get nothing especially in Miami Bumble where he claims blowout. He won't show his photos, but yeah. Either this guy is frauding or adjusting his photos to look better like playing with fire on YouTube or some maximized normie guy in looks like wingman plus on YouTube who does some frauding as well. Either way. Something off and considering he is grey user. Not surprised. Don't fall for these larps.

 

[wisemen]

Surprised you trolled and fooled this many people. This guy is debunked through one way. He show a guy that is similar to him. He won't, and if he does. Someone can run the guy he is similar with, but he will get nothing especially in Miami Bumble where he claims blowout. He won't show his photos, but yeah. Either this guy is frauding or adjusting his photos to look better like playing with fire on YouTube or some maximized normie guy in looks like wingman plus on YouTube who does some frauding as well. Either way. Something off and considering he is grey user. Not surprised. Don't fall for these larps.

Hahaha
You really sounds jealous?
What do I win to lie about this?
I’m verified at all dating apps.
I know my photos are good, but I’ve also facetimed with woman, and they still wanna date me.

But frauding on dating apps… women do it all the time. It’s so bad, you think you matched with a hot chick but all photos is in weird angles and with filters (or something). I think men in general is less frauding.
But sure, I took the best photos of my. Not a mirror selfie or when I look like a creep. I smile at most photos also, and I happen to have perfect teeth.

 

[Leo69]

Hahaha
You really sounds jealous?
What do I win to lie about this?
I’m verified at all dating apps.
I know my photos are good, but I’ve also facetimed with woman, and they still wanna date me.

But frauding on dating apps… women do it all the time. It’s so bad, you think you matched with a hot chick but all photos is in weird angles and with filters (or something). I think men in general is less frauding.
But sure, I took the best photos of my. Not a mirror selfie or when I look like a creep. I smile at most photos also, and I happen to have perfect teeth.

Definitely not jealous. You are giving false hope to guys which isn't cool. I've seen countless BS scenarios of normies showing they are doing great results, but the moment they show their photos. Attempting to replicate what they did with their same photos and bio in their location. Not even close.

Agreed in regards to women frauding more to men as expected. I just know there is nothing to discuss here as you fail to answer the questions or provide any proof of yourself or even someone that looks identical to yours.

 

[wisemen]

Definitely not jealous. You are giving false hope to guys which isn't cool. I've seen countless BS scenarios of normies showing they are doing great results, but the moment they show their photos. Attempting to replicate what they did with their same photos and bio in their location. Not even close.

Agreed in regards to women frauding more to men as expected. I just know there is nothing to discuss here as you fail to answer the questions or provide any proof of yourself or even someone that looks identical to yours.

I don’t want to expose my self here. My feeling is that there is some weird people here also..
I don’t have a totally look a like. Sure I know some famous people I reminds of, but then you get that famous halo in the experiment.

Also, my flaws according to black pill theories, is most noticeable in one angle.. in most photos and irl it’s not even that noticeable.

 

[Leo69]

I don’t want to expose my self here. My feeling is that there is some weird people here also..
I don’t have a totally look a like. Sure I know some famous people I reminds of, but then you get that famous halo in the experiment.

Also, my flaws according to black pill theories, is most noticeable in one angle.. in most photos and irl it’s not even that noticeable.

Makes sense for don't want to expose, but you can just say a celebrity you look like. Don't have to run the celebrity obviously in the experiment, but at least can get an idea.

 

[wisemen]

Makes sense for don't want to expose, but you can just say a celebrity you look like. Don't have to run the celebrity obviously in the experiment, but at least can get an idea.

James Franco I’ve heard a couples of times irl.

 

[Leo69]

James Franco I’ve heard a couples of times irl.

He is nowhere near normie, which makes me think you are not rating yourself properly or something is missing.

 

[wisemen]

That photo is frauding. He have dark hair.
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But we’re not totally look a likes, but for sure reminds of. I have curly hair for example. I have lower hairline for example.

And yes, I think he would be rated some kind of normie here with unfrauded photos.

 

[wisemen]

He is nowhere near normie, which makes me think you are not rating yourself properly or something is missing.

That photo is frauding. He has dark hair.
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But we’re not totally look a likes, but for sure reminds of. I have curly hair for example. I have lower hairline for example.

And yes, I think he would be rated some kind of normie here with unfrauded photos.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Are you tall? That's probably why you get hit on a lot by females meaning blackpill is in fact correct.

 

[Leo69]

That photo is frauding. He has dark hair.
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But we’re not totally look a likes, but for sure reminds of. I have curly hair for example. I have lower hairline for example.

And yes, I think he would be rated some kind of normie here with unfrauded photos.

That photo is his prime, so wouldn't really say frauding since he was quite close to that overall in his prime in videos even.

I guess you meant his aged version where he looks more normie. Makes sense. Interesting case. Thanks for the example at least it's something. Decent normie though.

 

[looksmaxxed]

imagine just believing a random test with no corroborating evidence of any kind. if there's a whole bunch of tests where ugly fuck normies get tons of matches, then that's data worth considering. when the results are too good to be true, just consider it a hoax until there is solid proof.

 

[wisemen]

imagine just believing a random test with no corroborating evidence of any kind. if there's a whole bunch of tests where ugly fuck normies get tons of matches, then that's data worth considering. when the results are too good to be true, just consider it a hoax until there is solid proof.

Since when is 6/10 ugly…?
I don’t consider myself ugly at all

 

[wisemen]

That photo is his prime, so wouldn't really say frauding since he was quite close to that overall in his prime in videos even.

I guess you meant his aged version where he looks more normie. Makes sense. Interesting case. Thanks for the example at least it's something. Decent normie though.

The photo you showed is not his real hair colour. Also the photo is very photoshopped.

I watched playing with fire photos. And he’s not frauding? It’s clearly him in the photos? I would say the majority of women frauds more than he does.

 

[Leo69]

The photo you showed is not his real hair colour. Also the photo is very photoshopped.

I watched playing with fire photos. And he’s not frauding? It’s clearly him in the photos? I would say the majority of women frauds more than he does.

He is still more or less like that in motion for his prime.

It's him in his photos, but oblivion looks difference for playing with fire which was discussed in a thread here.

Alex from PlayingWithFire Frauds so hard

This post is for entertainment purposes These are the pictures he uses on tinder and in thumbnails: I think the pictures he uses on tinder get him dates too LMAO. I can't imagine how awkward it is when they show up expecting him to look like his photos but in reality he looks like this: I...

looksmax.org

 

[makeme183]

Since when is 6/10 ugly…?
I don’t consider myself ugly at all

can you post your match result screenshot again ?

maybe you have exotic halo as a european in US

also,NCT isn't that much of a failo - just see elordi or hacker
NCT, long midface are not over tier failos

 

[wisemen]

can you post your match result screenshot again ?

maybe you have exotic halo as a european in US

also,NCT isn't that much of a failo - just see elordi or hacker
NCT, long midface are not over tier failos

http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230215221955-2a00:801:768:f50c:48a7:77ac:c62c:d7f7.jpeg

Almost all black pillers who rate see negative canthal tilt as a negative. They all mentioned NCT as my nr 1 biggest flaw. And I agree. But I’m not sure women always see it that way.

For sure I have an exotic halo in USA. They also love my dialect. And that’s a good example. I speak English with a heavy dialect, and I’m not that great, but it’s still a plus for the majority of women. I think that can be the case with facial traits also?

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

I have read a lot of black pill last year. I’m 30 years old now, but since I was 16 I’ve always have had women. In the majority of the cases is the women who hits on me, School/job. I don’t have to do the work! But it’s always normie girls, like between 4-6, and I started to thinking about why no 7-10 girls hit on me and ignore me if I hit on them. I searched the internet. I found much red pill and black pill theories. Actually black pill made a bit of sense.

I bought face ratings from all avaible, which all varied.. but Wheat waffles gave me first a 5, then the other time with a totally different haircut he gave me a 6. So let’s say 5.5, I’m a MTN/HTN!?

Well according to black pill I should struggle massively on online dating? But I’m not, it’s the opposite. I’ve never had any need for online dating, but I created a couple of test profiles and did some experiment. Often in USA, since it’s easier to change location to similar cities.
All my photos is taken with iPhone portrait, but it’s good quality photos for sure. I get so many matches that I can’t even possibly read and answer them all if I’m not working full time with it..
a lot of women started conversations like “hey cutie. Hey handsome. I really love your smile. I love your hair.”
My bio is totally trash, I’m only put the flag from my European country, and I write my height 6’3/190 cm in the bio. That’s all. I could easily get more dates that I could manage to have. But I would also say, most girls are white normies I match with. Some few unique matches with a 7, but most cases not.

What’s the conclusion? According to black pill theories I should not have this success with women!? Not irl, or online dating. The things I possibly think of is that black pill might be totally wrong about normies? Or the face rating is totally off in regards of what women think.
Or do I have missed something? I’m so confused.
Note, I don’t even have abs and since I have a pretty high body fat %. But I look slim, like skinny fat. Would I have had abs my matches would have increased I think.

You are just an Oofy doofy in training, don’t get it twisted

 

[makeme183]

http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230215221955-2a00:801:768:f50c:48a7:77ac:c62c:d7f7.jpeg

nigga you using the premium version jfl

then the results are nothing surprising
white + HTN + 6'3 + premium account + good quality photos = 1000 matches easy

how long did you take to hit 1000 ?

 

[wisemen]

can you post your match result screenshot again ?

maybe you have exotic halo as a european in US

also,NCT isn't that much of a failo - just see elordi or hacker
NCT, long midface are not over tier failos

Haha You know what’s funny? I googled eIordi, and he reminds of me
Who’s hacker?

 

[wisemen]

nigga you using the premium version jfl

then the results are nothing surprising
white + HTN + 6'3 + premium account + good quality photos = 1000 matches easy

how long did you take to hit 1000 ?

Lol, it’s waaaay above 1000… I just didn’t have time to go through all the likes..

What’s wrong with premium? I need it to change my location. I wanted to do an experiment.
If you read the thread, you also see that I removed my height and the results still was good.

 

[makeme183]

Haha You know what’s funny? I googled eIordi, and he reminds of me
Who’s hacker?

vinnie hacker , god among JB's and college girls
even timothy gaylamet has NCT
its not a failo if you have other strong features

also,if you really resemble elordi , you probably have celebrity lookalike halo as well , cuz that nigga blew up after euphoria

 

[wisemen]

vinnie hacker , god among JB's and college girls
even timothy gaylamet has NCT
its not a failo if you have other strong features

also,if you really resemble elordi , you probably have celebrity lookalike halo as well , cuz that nigga blew up after euphoria

I started my experiment 2 weeks ago. But I didn’t had time to be active all the time. But I guess total 2500+ likes.

 

[makeme183]

Lol, it’s waaaay above 1000… I just didn’t have time to go through all the likes..

if you're putting your true age as 30 on the app and still matching with 20 yo girls , you're a chad jfl

What’s wrong with premium? I need it to change my location. I wanted to do an experiment

nothing wrong , its just that buying premium makes your profile visible to more girls , cuz bumble algo buries the profile of free users after a while (won't work if you're a truecel to begin with)

If you read the thread, you also see that I removed my height and the results still was good.

do you have a long torso or long legs ?
do you have pics in your profile showing you taller than your friends?
girls can guess the guy's height by seeing those types of photos,even if the height isn't mentioned

 

[wisemen]

He is still more or less like that in motion for his prime.

It's him in his photos, but oblivion looks difference for playing with fire which was discussed in a thread here.

Alex from PlayingWithFire Frauds so hard

This post is for entertainment purposes These are the pictures he uses on tinder and in thumbnails: I think the pictures he uses on tinder get him dates too LMAO. I can't imagine how awkward it is when they show up expecting him to look like his photos but in reality he looks like this: I...

looksmax.org

Yea I see your point. For sure he’s good looking. But still, he has professional photos, which most men don’t have.

I’m which way does Alex from PWF fraud? Online the deepfake video was fraud. Not his regular?