Norwooding but ascending and gaining bonemass. Fin or not?

[eyecon]

I’ve been gaining a lot of bonemass in jaw and zygos/orbitals in my early 20s which I’m assuming to be from late stage adolescent skull changes.

My norwooding has started to speed up tho and I’m approaching Norwood 2.

Idk whether to start topical fin now or if to wait few more years incase it slows this facial bone maximisation and growth I’m having now.

Thoughts?

 

[JohnDoe]

Tranny drug, only drug addicts will recommend it. Gaining more mass in early 20s is normal, same happened to me. At the least wait until 24/25 if you really want to take it

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Dut or it's over.

 

[overdose]

Too far gone if u have even stage 1. Fuck shit must suck.

 

[6´3 LTN]

Tranny drug, only drug addicts will recommend it

You have to be ragebaiting

Dut or it's over.

Add ru

 

[JohnDoe]

You have to be ragebaiting

Add ru

If he really wants to take it he should wait until 24 or 25 atleaast but I don't recommend taking it at all

 

[eyecon]

Tranny drug, only drug addicts will recommend it. Gaining more mass in early 20s is normal, same happened to me. At the least wait until 24/25 if you really want to take it

I’m thinking topical fin to hold into the NW2 tho. Past that the bone growth I feel might not override having a cooked hairline. My upper third is main failo too but the jaw gains are huge so I’m really stuck. Topical fin if I really have to maybe a middle ground? Or just ride it out and transplant mid twenties?

 

[eyecon]

But I’m gaining bonemass. DHT may be a large cause of it?

 

[soggra]

I’ve been gaining a lot of bonemass in jaw and zygos/orbitals in my early 20s which I’m assuming to be from late stage adolescent skull changes.

My norwooding has started to speed up tho and I’m approaching Norwood 2.

Idk whether to start topical fin now or if to wait few more years incase it slows this facial bone maximisation and growth I’m having now.

Thoughts?

Just wear a hair system or get a hair transplant

Don’t use fin that shit kills your hormones

 

[eyecon]

Just wear a hair system or get a hair transplant

Don’t use fin that shit kills your hormones

hair system for fully bald tho so I gotta have many years without and bad middle ground. Transplant could be the way

 

[eyecon]

If he really wants to take it he should wait until 24 or 25 atleaast but I don't recommend taking it at all

Idk if I’ll have any hairlike by then tho

 

[JohnDoe]

I’m thinking topical fin to hold into the NW2 tho. Past that the bone growth I feel might not override having a cooked hairline. My upper third is main failo too but the jaw gains are huge so I’m really stuck. Topical fin if I really have to maybe a middle ground? Or just ride it out and transplant mid twenties?

Topical still goes systemic to some degree though but up to you buddy. I grew 2cm in height in my early 20s, my medical records prove it yet copers will say it's fake and that I should have started taking fin at 15 (I started balding at 25 and not at 15 because my genetics aren't dogshit like these kids on here)

 

[eyecon]

Tranny drug, only drug addicts will recommend it. Gaining more mass in early 20s is normal, same happened to me. At the least wait until 24/25 if you really want to take it

Yeh thinking the same. Just hoping it’s retrievable at 25 lol and not too far fone

 

[JohnDoe]

Idk if I’ll have any hairlike by then tho

You can try fin then I guess see if you get any sides otherwise apparently dut doesn't necessarily give sides if you got them from fin. Just be careful

 

[eyecon]

Topical still goes systemic to some degree though but up to you buddy. I grew 2cm in height in my early 20s, my medical records prove it yet copers will say it's fake and that I should have started taking fin at 15 (I started balding at 25 and not at 15 because my genetics aren't dogshit like these kids on here)

Yeh bro developing more in your twenties is quite common for people with good genetics. And good lifestyle. Not shocking at all. I think I’ll try and hold out a bit longer until mid twenties and if I need a transplant and fin to revive it I will then. Hair is temporary, bones are foreverrrrr!!

 

[RecessedCel5]

Yeh thinking the same. Just hoping it’s retrievable at 25 lol and not too far fone

you can take it, but also take exogenous test as well

 

[eyecon]

Too far gone if u have even stage 1. Fuck shit must suck.

Cavill Newman many others disagree. Bones over hair

 

[JohnDoe]

Yeh bro developing more in your twenties is quite common for people with good genetics. And good lifestyle. Not shocking at all. I think I’ll try and hold out a bit longer until mid twenties and if I need a transplant and fin to revive it I will then. Hair is temporary, bones are foreverrrrr!!

Don't know why people on here say your growth as a man stops in teen years when it's clearly not the case, even putting pictures of myself side by side from age 18 to 24 there's a huge difference in my face. Best of luck to you whatever you decide, don't be pressured into taking anything by anyone on here

 

[eyecon]

you can take it, but also take exogenous test as well

I have weighed this up also. But then have to inject myself for the rest of my life which is pretty bad

 

[RecessedCel5]

I have weighed this up also. But then have to inject myself for the rest of my life which is pretty bad

pct works for 95% of people. you can also store your sperm in a sperm bank.
especially at TRT - Low dose cycle levels

 

[eyecon]

Don't know why people on here say your growth as a man stops in teen years when it's clearly not the case, even putting pictures of myself side by side from age 18 to 24 there's a huge difference in my face. Best of luck to you whatever you decide, don't be pressured into taking anything by anyone on here

Thanks, out of interest did you experience similar to me.z and what did you do? Hop on fin or topical? Or wait and leave it

 

[eyecon]

pct works for 95% of people. you can also store your sperm in a sperm bank.
especially at TRT - Low dose cycle levels

Ehhhh sounds sketch af. Pc meaning no injections? What does that entail?

 

[JohnDoe]

Thanks, out of interest did you experience similar to me.z and what did you do? Hop on fin or topical? Or wait and leave it

I only started losing hair at 26 and now at 29 I'm maybe nw2? Some thinning on top i guess but really nothing noticeable at all. I have begun to take other measures to slow it down though, won't ever be taking fin/dut

 

[RecessedCel5]

Ehhhh sounds sketch af. Pc meaning no injections? What does that entail?

wdym. you use PCT to restart your testicular function

 

[eyecon]

You have to be ragebaiting

Add ru

Taking it before 25 is pretty dumb I think

 

[eyecon]

wdym. you use PCT to restart your testicular function

Yes what is it? Swapping injections for what?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Taking it before 25 is pretty dumb I think

Retarded statement.

DHT has no effect on your height or bones.

The only "facial masculinisation you will be getting is your bald head.

 

[eyecon]

I only started losing hair at 26 and now at 29 I'm maybe nw2? Some thinning on top i guess but really nothing noticeable at all. I have begun to take other measures to slow it down though, won't ever be taking fin/dut

Okay so you were pretty much good anyway losing it after 25 is fine I think topical fin wouldn’t be a big issue at that point lucky guy! What other measure just minoxidil derma rolling?

 

[eyecon]

Retarded statement.

DHT has no effect on your height or bones.

Google is free

 

[RecessedCel5]

Yes what is it? Swapping injections for what?

you basically take compounds like enclo, hcg for 3months after you stop injecting, if the PCT is successful then you can go back to normal

 

[eyecon]

Exactly. Learn to use it and go read the studies, not what ChatGPT spews out you complete and utter fucking moron.

Google is free. Where do you think these replies come from? Thin air?lol

 

[JohnDoe]

Okay so you were pretty much good anyway losing it after 25 is fine I think topical fin wouldn’t be a big issue at that point lucky guy! What other measure just minoxidil derma rolling?

Nah no minoxidil either, I didn't do anything and had a really bad lifestyle from 17 - 26 and still never lost hair. Minoxidil makes the hairs dependent on minoxidil which i don't like because you have to keep taking it forever or the hairs will fall out. Also bloat and collagen issues apparently. Like I said it's up to you if you want to take topical fin if you feel like growth is completely done.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

View attachment 3980479Google is free. Where do you think these replies come from? Thin air?lol

can taking creatine improve masseters?

title

looksmax.org

Learn to research bud. Google is indeed free, learn to use it.

 

[eyecon]

Nah no minoxidil either, I didn't do anything and had a really bad lifestyle from 17 - 26 and still never lost hair. Minoxidil makes the hairs dependent on minoxidil which i don't like because you have to keep taking it forever or the hairs will fall out. Also bloat and collagen issues apparently. Like I said it's up to you if you want to take topical fin if you feel like growth is completely done.

I’ll wait don’t wanna hinder bone gains. Transplant always there ain’t it mate thanks

 

[eyecon]

can taking creatine improve masseters?

title

looksmax.org

Learn to research bud. Google is indeed free, learn to use it.

Testosterone is the main driver yes. ‘DHT is not the main…’ according to your source.

Also, Other sources say it stimulates osteoblasts. Since the facial bones also have tons of androgen receptors and DHT binds very strongly it very likely has an impact.

As for comparing siblings and bone mass and that being your scientific evidence that is extremely ridiculous given the variance in facial aesthetics in siblings. Even you forum guys know this by looking at PSL guys family members looking at jordan Barrett’s brothers who have 30% of his bonemass.
So please get rid of that as your evidence it’s atrocious. Especially since even the dudes brother looks podgy and less masculine, which is irrelevant anyway as explained above.

I’ll stick to Google, studies relating to this and general science common sense to know DHT definitely plays a role. Incase you didn’t know if you google something and get a strong detailed answer, believe it or not, that is the answer.
Google free

Mogged

Sources:

Dihydrotestosterone, a robust promoter of osteoblastic proliferation and differentiation: understanding of time-mannered and dose-dependent control of bone forming cells - PMC

The present study was aimed to evaluate the time-mannered and dose-dependent effects of 5α-dihydrotestosterone (5α-DHT) on the proliferation and differentiation of bone forming cells using MC3T3-E1 cells. Cell proliferation was analyzed using MTS ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Role of hormones in bone remodeling in the craniofacial complex: A review - PMC

Diseases such as periodontitis and osteoporosis are expected to rise tremendously by 2050. Bone formation and remodeling are complex processes that are disturbed in a variety of diseases influenced by various hormones. This study aimed to review and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone, Bone Density, and Hip Fracture Risk among Older Men: The Cardiovascular Health Study - PMC

Little is known about the relationships of dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a more potent androgen than testosterone (T), with bone mineral density (BMD) and fracture risk. Our objectives were to evaluate the relationships of T, DHT and sex hormone ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Testosterone is the main driver yes. ‘DHT is not the main…’ according to your source.

Also, Other sources say it stimulates osteoblasts. Since the facial bones also have tons of androgen receptors and DHT binds very strongly it very likely has an impact.

As for comparing siblings and bone mass and that being your scientific evidence that is extremely ridiculous given the variance in facial aesthetics in siblings. Even you forum guys know this by looking at PSL guys family members looking at jordan Barrett’s brothers who have 30% of his bonemass.
So please get rid of that as your evidence it’s atrocious. Especially since even the dudes brother looks podgy and less masculine, which is irrelevant anyway as explained above.

I’ll stick to Google, studies relating to this and general science common sense to know DHT definitely plays a role. Incase you didn’t know if you google something and get a strong detailed answer, believe it or not, that is the answer.
Google free

Mogged

Sources:

Dihydrotestosterone, a robust promoter of osteoblastic proliferation and differentiation: understanding of time-mannered and dose-dependent control of bone forming cells - PMC

The present study was aimed to evaluate the time-mannered and dose-dependent effects of 5α-dihydrotestosterone (5α-DHT) on the proliferation and differentiation of bone forming cells using MC3T3-E1 cells. Cell proliferation was analyzed using MTS ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Role of hormones in bone remodeling in the craniofacial complex: A review - PMC

Diseases such as periodontitis and osteoporosis are expected to rise tremendously by 2050. Bone formation and remodeling are complex processes that are disturbed in a variety of diseases influenced by various hormones. This study aimed to review and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone, Bone Density, and Hip Fracture Risk among Older Men: The Cardiovascular Health Study - PMC

Little is known about the relationships of dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a more potent androgen than testosterone (T), with bone mineral density (BMD) and fracture risk. Our objectives were to evaluate the relationships of T, DHT and sex hormone ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

HAHA

 

[eyecon]

View attachment 3980532

HAHA

Bros laughing at his own demise

 

[slaters]

Sources

Cmon bro

 

[eyecon]

View attachment 3980532

Org users when they realise AI can browse the internet for them and find studies

You guys are something else man. Just click the link

 

[eyecon]

Cmon bro

You when you realise AI is a useful tool to browse internet for you

 

[eyecon]

Yes, do that. Click it and you'll see what an utter moron you are.

Do tell me how the conclusive evidence that DHT plays an impact on facial bone development according to science isn’t true! Please, since you are so sure!

 

[eyecon]

Yes, do that. Click it and you'll see what an utter moron you are.

Tumble weed case closed

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Tumble weed case closed

Yes, case closed.

 

[eyecon]

Yes, case closed.

Is that you in your profile pic?

Genuinely curious why you think the top study especially and google’s opinion is wrong. No insults now. Why are you so sure?