Not being negative but most of us are too old to ascend

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A lot of looks is just nutrition. This is extremely dependent on your mother eating nutrient dense foods before and during the 9 months you are in the womb. This will make or break your bone structure. The first 5 years of life is basically the majority of your skull development. If you are not breastfed good fucking luck out there, I also hope you don't mouth breathe and don't end up like an abomination. A huge cause of bullying is mouth breathing during childhood. But even mouth breathing is from fucked health and underdeveloped nostrils.


Please refer to this thread. Basically if you look at the nostrils of good looking people they are all large for optimal airflow. This contributes to normal maxillary growth during childhood. The time to ascend is from 0-5 years old when your skull is growing the most. After that it becomes increasingly hard and by 13 your skull is basically fused in most cases. All this shit, being NT, socialising etc. starts as a kid not when you are a mentally ill jaded man in his 20's. If you are not, then why are you on this forum? You are lucky to have been given a good base to ascend with.

Even if you get surgeries, your base is all that matters. Most people here don't even ascend, the slayers are just initially good looking people with a well developed cranial base, maxilla etc. Lets say you somehow get the money to get the surgery even though you have to pay rent, food, go to college etc. you will be too old by the time you have the money for it to have much impact. Your best years will be over anyway. Lets say you are high iq, like many users here are and get the money at a young age, don't people here say surgeons just refuse them without a referral? They need to fake sleep apnea tests etc to even have a hope of getting it. This is if everything goes well. And if it does....

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He looks comical and remember Tyrion is a 1 percenter who got surgery. He is let down by his malnourished skull that didn't form right. He put all this effort in for little to no change.

This is just my thoughts on surgery etc. I think its cope. I am still going to try to do everything in my power to get surgery to improve my breathing so I don't suffer as much. But im not under the illusion that I will become Chad. That is decided within the first 5 years of life. Its largely nutrition, and phenotype obviously. In my opinion, if you have been fucked up your whole life then thats just how its meant to be. Don't cope.
 
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What's your age
 
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It's over for you oldcels, But don't worry, Us youngcels will use all the knowledge you've given us to its fullest potential
 
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It's over for you oldcels, But don't worry, Us youngcels will use all the knowledge you've given us to its fullest potential
Ur age?
 
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20, It might be over for me, im past the prime age of 18 :feelswhy:
If you're going for maesthetic prime is 26-30 if you take care of yourself
 
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I can not agree enough with this. Life is over right after birth, and this is not hyperbole or irony. Your mother nourishes you for nine crucial months in her womb and then gives birth to you. The second she shes sees your baby body, she will judge your looks (not blaming herself if they are bad, but praising herself if they are good of course), and then start treating your accordingly, aka like shit when you are a bad looking baby (blame husband for bad genes), basically trying to abort subconsciously by neglecting you.

The preferred way of child murder of infants through history is literally called "exposure" in professional circles. Because thats what they would do. Neglect the child on purpose, or leave it somewhere to die. Put it in a big pot and leave it in the sun. Things like that. Hänsel and Gretel - the mother goes, we cant keep the kids, bring them in forest and let them die. Remember, this tale comes to us from ancient history, its based on real life.

So, if you are getting bullied or rejected, its just society trying to make you suicide, really. They are trying to abort you from society. You entire life is an abortion.

Now, to go back to the original point of the message here, of course it transcends even mere pregnancy. The health of the mother prior to pregnancy cant be understated, even her god-forsaken mental state has an effect. I bet you, even if she just THINKS she got impregnated by chad, it will have a positive effect on the baby. All this anti-child having, muh independent woman shit, "birth is a horrible and painful thing" propaganda shit therefore also makes the foid way more anxious about birth, THUS LEADING TO AN ACTUALLY TRAUMATIC BIRTH - self fulfilling prophecy.

Now before someone here goes, uuuh muh birth is always horrible braaah - im not pulling this shit from my ass here - ive gone on websites of organizations that advocate for painfree birth, run by women, that even offer training to foids for this. Some even say foids can cum from birth :unsure:

and one of the things these foid run organizations say consistently is this: The one decisive factor that determines if the birth is hard or easy is the foids mindset. If she thinks its a wonderful thing and nice and shit, - she will love it.
if not, you get the classic movie birth AAAAAAAA MY ASSHOLE IS RIPPING AAAAA OH NO OH WOE IS ME YOU EVIL EVIL MEN, HOW COULD CREAMPIE MEEE OH NOOOOOO

so yeah.
sorry for tangent, but thats it.

so in summary, foid nutrition and mental state prior to, during and for the 5-10 years after pregnancy is literally life. Beyond that you cant do shit.

Stop focusing on pussy, get your health fixed first, especially breathing. Breathing = improves adhd, anxiety, parts of depression, inflamation. If you dont believe just breathe nigga.

I am Aladin and I support this message.
 
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My skull at 30 is much bigger than when i was 13 so it obviously wasnt fused jfl. Also at 13 i was 5'5 and at 30 6'1.
 
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You're a fucking retard and so is everyone else that uses tyrion as an example of surgeries being cope. That fucking retards worst failo is his eye area and his flat cheekbones because he most likely mouthbreathed during his formative years. He needs to get Infraorbital implants, possibly get a little orbital decompression, and manicure his ugly ethnic bushy subhuman eyebrows. :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek: God, and you retards call yourself "psl autists". You dumbasses can't give good surgical advice for shit.
 
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indeed, oldspo
 
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You're a fucking retard and so is everyone else that uses tyrion as an example of surgeries being cope. That fucking retards worst failo is his eye area and his flat cheekbones because he most likely mouthbreathed during his formative years. He needs to get Infraorbital implants, possibly get a little orbital decompression, and manicure his ugly ethnic bushy subhuman eyebrows. :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek: God, and you retards call yourself "psl autists". You dumbasses can't give good surgical advice for shit.
youre a faggot and i hope you die in a housefire you fucking bitch, you probably eat your dads fried cum for breakfeast with his dickcheese on top you fucking pussy

also, you did not even read OP you fucking mongoloid, i hope you die at 30. He literally said, you cant fix this shit, or its much harder, if you are failoed in early development phase. You didnt disprove OP, you confirmed what he says then say hes rettard, but guess what - YOU ARE RETARD
 
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Niga ur 21 :lul::lul: are u mentalcel
bro my grandma was working full time and supporting two households at 15. she did household for this other family and ran her own household for her dad and family.
In my village there was farmers couple that got pregnant at 14 and were still together when i lived there.
21 is old as fuck. if the average lifespan is 70, then 21 is literally 30% of life. If you are on this forum, you are probably fucked up health wise somehow, so it could be shorter than that even.
Let's take autism for example. If you have autism, which comes with a whole bucket list of comorbid disorders ranging from hormone problems, diabetes, heart disease, low muscle tone, breathing issues etc..., if you have that, then your average lifespan is somewhere between 36 and 55, depending on level of severity.

This is not me making this up, this is official data:
One of the most important investigations of recent years revealed that average life expectancy of a person with severe autism is 39.5 years, rising to only 58 years for those with high-functioning autism, or Asperger syndrome.


A study out of Sweden completed late last year revealed that people with autism died an average of 16 years earlier than those without the condition.

It also revealed that the leading causes of death in people with autism were heart disease, suicide, and epilepsy.

Furthermore, it is odd to me how you separate mental disease from physical disease in your post when these almost never exist in isolation from another. And I am not talking about genetics or supposed imbalances in the chemical makeup of the brain. Usually there is a slew of other diseases, as i mentioned above. Adhd for example is correlated with breathing issues (as is autism, and there is also huge overlap between autism and adhd, go figure).

Mouth breathing because of nasal obstruction is likely to cause sleep disorders, and by day, it may give rise to symptoms similar to those of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) 2. In these ways, it has been suggested that breathing through the mouth instead of the nose can adversely affect brain function.

In fact at this point some cases of autism are treated with hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

So these "mental" diseases are almost pure physical and results of malnutrition and parental neglect if you inspect them. I also encourage to ask some diagnosed schizos around these forums and if use it, discord, about their experience with weed, if it makes their condition worse, if they stopped smoking since becoming schizo etc... you will get some interesting answers.

To address your original point again,
1. mentalcels do not exist, only physically sick people
2. at 21, if you are healthy, your life is factually 30% over, if you are unhealthy, maybe even 60%

Your post was uninformed, you are a dicksucker
 
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bro my grandma was working full time and supporting two households at 15. she did household for this other family and ran her own household for her dad and family.
In my village there was farmers couple that got pregnant at 14 and were still together when i lived there.
21 is old as fuck. if the average lifespan is 70, then 21 is literally 30% of life. If you are on this forum, you are probably fucked up health wise somehow, so it could be shorter than that even.
Let's take autism for example. If you have autism, which comes with a whole bucket list of comorbid disorders ranging from hormone problems, diabetes, heart disease, low muscle tone, breathing issues etc..., if you have that, then your average lifespan is somewhere between 36 and 55, depending on level of severity.

This is not me making this up, this is official data:




Furthermore, it is odd to me how you separate mental disease from physical disease in your post when these almost never exist in isolation from another. And I am not talking about genetics or supposed imbalances in the chemical makeup of the brain. Usually there is a slew of other diseases, as i mentioned above. Adhd for example is correlated with breathing issues (as is autism, and there is also huge overlap between autism and adhd, go figure).



In fact at this point some cases of autism are treated with hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

So these "mental" diseases are almost pure physical and results of malnutrition and parental neglect if you inspect them. I also encourage to ask some diagnosed schizos around these forums and if use it, discord, about their experience with weed, if it makes their condition worse, if they stopped smoking since becoming schizo etc... you will get some interesting answers.

To address your original point again,
1. mentalcels do not exist, only physically sick people
2. at 21, if you are healthy, your life is factually 30% over, if you are unhealthy, maybe even 60%

Your post was uninformed, you are a dicksucker
Lifespan is 85 if you take care of yourself. 21 is literally just 1/4 of one's life. And the first 5 years were spent sucking tits and sleeping
 
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Lifespan is 85 if you take care of yourself. 21 is literally just 1/4 of one's life. And the first 5 years were spent sucking tits and sleeping
bro, are you retarded or what? if you were anymore retarded i would have to water you.
you are literally proving me right.
yes, exactly, you spent a huge part of your life unconscious, laying in bed, the first 5 years of life you are barely awake.
So you cant use them, aka YOUR LIFE IS EVEN SHORTER THAN WHAT I SAID.

Btw, you cant take care of yourself. If you think that you are a retard. You could die any second. Medical error is third leading cause of death. How do you propose to take care of yourself? Eat healthy balanced diet TM, or some other dietary advice that is based on findings by muh authority figures in white robes, that will suddenly change and do a 180° degree turn within next 30-50 years? Dude, for a good 100 years they told people breastfeeding was bad for kids. In 1800s they sold cocain to people for toothaches and marketed kellogs saying it would extinguish your sex drive, like that was a good thing.

Why are you so arrogants as to assume that you know whats good for yourself? Because you trust scientists? People that have been proven wrong over and over and over throughout history? Dude, go online, find some science mag pdfs from the 90s or 80s. There are predictions and health advice in that shit that was so fucking wrong we dont even remember half of it.

You cant trust anyone.
So who do you trust? Yourself? You have no fucking clue how to take care of yourself.
Do you know that over a third of people get cancer or heart disease?
What makes you think you will beat these odds? Do you think some of these people didnt look in the mirror and said "im a good person, i take care of myself! I will live to 84"

Approximately 39.5% of men and women will be diagnosed with cancer at some point during their lifetimes (based on 2015–2017 data). In 2020, an estimated 16,850 children and adolescents ages 0 to 19 will be diagnosed with cancer and 1,730 will die of the disease.

Now one in two will get cancer... and it could hit two-thirds of today's children​

More than half of adults are now expected to get cancer at some point in their life, research shows.
The risk is increasing so quickly that experts fear as many as two-thirds of today’s children will develop the disease.

you are basically playing russian roulette with a six shooter with three to four bullets in the chamber, and you are like, "my odds are good, im spinning this thing with confidence, so nothing can hurt me hurray"

Im telling this to you now. Think about physical health, keep the risks in mind, the numbers. Now add other things, accidents, car crash, someone attacking, mugging you, medical error during standard procedure, antibiotics fuck up your gut after you get treated for a minor fungal infection on your ass... whatever, play with the odds.

Im telling you and everyone reading this, no matter how healthy you think you are, you will have a major negative event in your life at some point and it will hit you out of nowhere and you wont be able to prevent it. Do not be confident.
Go into a nursing home and talk to people, you will see what I mean. Theres people that were lawayers and now are 40-50 and completely demented. I met this guy who used to run a company that produced shit like bandaids. He was demented, shat on floor and shit. One of our nurses actually worked in his company 20 years prior as intern, when he still ran it. Thats how quick it happens.

Your statement "just take care of yourself bro" does not hold up to observable reality. Your reply was low effort and again, you are fucking retarded, go shit in your diaper, which you will do anyway in future, but hey, maybe do some anal curls to strengthen your shit cutter, idk, surely "taking care of your anus" will prevent this.
 
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bro, are you retarded or what? if you were anymore retarded i would have to water you.
you are literally proving me right.
yes, exactly, you spent a huge part of your life unconscious, laying in bed, the first 5 years of life you are barely awake.
So you cant use them, aka YOUR LIFE IS EVEN SHORTER THAN WHAT I SAID.

Btw, you cant take care of yourself. If you think that you are a retard. You could die any second. Medical error is third leading cause of death. How do you propose to take care of yourself? Eat healthy balanced diet TM, or some other dietary advice that is based on findings by muh authority figures in white robes, that will suddenly change and do a 180° degree turn within next 30-50 years? Dude, for a good 100 years they told people breastfeeding was bad for kids. In 1800s they sold cocain to people for toothaches and marketed kellogs saying it would extinguish your sex drive, like that was a good thing.

Why are you so arrogants as to assume that you know whats good for yourself? Because you trust scientists? People that have been proven wrong over and over and over throughout history? Dude, go online, find some science mag pdfs from the 90s or 80s. There are predictions and health advice in that shit that was so fucking wrong we dont even remember half of it.

You cant trust anyone.
So who do you trust? Yourself? You have no fucking clue how to take care of yourself.
Do you know that over a third of people get cancer or heart disease?
What makes you think you will beat these odds? Do you think some of these people didnt look in the mirror and said "im a good person, i take care of myself! I will live to 84"




you are basically playing russian roulette with a six shooter with three to four bullets in the chamber, and you are like, "my odds are good, im spinning this thing with confidence, so nothing can hurt me hurray"

Im telling this to you now. Think about physical health, keep the risks in mind, the numbers. Now add other things, accidents, car crash, someone attacking, mugging you, medical error during standard procedure, antibiotics fuck up your gut after you get treated for a minor fungal infection on your ass... whatever, play with the odds.

Im telling you and everyone reading this, no matter how healthy you think you are, you will have a major negative event in your life at some point and it will hit you out of nowhere and you wont be able to prevent it. Do not be confident.
Go into a nursing home and talk to people, you will see what I mean. Theres people that were lawayers and now are 40-50 and completely demented. I met this guy who used to run a company that produced shit like bandaids. He was demented, shat on floor and shit. One of our nurses actually worked in his company 20 years prior as intern, when he still ran it. Thats how quick it happens.

Your statement "just take care of yourself bro" does not hold up to observable reality. Your reply was low effort and again, you are fucking retarded, go shit in your diaper, which you will do anyway in future, but hey, maybe do some anal curls to strengthen your shit cutter, idk, surely "taking care of your anus" will prevent this.
Those people are a far and few. Most people live full lifestyles if they take care of themselves. Show me a study that says otherwise. Also you didn't get my point you retard if you're 21 you're only had waking consciousness for 16 years
 
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Those people are a far and few. Most people live full lifestyles if they take care of themselves. Show me a study that says otherwise. Also you didn't get my point you retard if you're 21 you're only had waking consciousness for 16 years
ok youre fucking with me. I think the dogshit i stepped in earlier had more iq than you.

Just one in 20 people worldwide (4·3%) had no health problems in 2013, with a third of the world's population (2·3 billion individuals) experiencing more than five ailments, according to a major new analysis.

Are You the 5 Percent? Small Minority Have No Health Problems​


also, if most people life full lifestyles, why is depression sky rocketing? Why is marketing a thing when people are satisfied?
Nobody is happy, not a single person around you is happy, not even the filthy rich.

You cant even define what a "full lifestyle" is. Oh, you say having sex and money or some other materialistic shit.
Bro, look, I know im basically having an argument with a banana here, but just read this ok?

Close relationships, more than money or fame, are what keep people happy throughout their lives, the study revealed. Those ties protect people from life’s discontents, help to delay mental and physical decline, and are better predictors of long and happy lives than social class, IQ, or even genes. That finding proved true across the board among both the Harvard men and the inner-city participants.

They spend almost a century, 80 years, recording peoples lifes as they aged. The conclusion is that the only thing that matters is relationships. Thats the one thing that makes life worthwhile.

And it makes sense, or all of our ancestors, that compared to us had no material comforts whatsoever, wouldve been depressed messes and just killed themselves. Even the wealthiest people didnt even tap water back then.

So, adressing what you said:
1.:"lifestyle" doesnt exist. "style" implies choice, which there isnt any. If we could chose to be happy, nobody would be on this forum, there would be alternative ways to be satisfied. They dont exist.
2. As the study shows, the only way to be happy is to have good relationships with other people, which you dont have because you are talking to me rn, on this fuckshit.

This also overlaps with the life quantity vs life quality thing.
Why do you want to life as long as possible?
Why not life an extremely good but short life?
The ideal would be long and good right?
But the deciding factor if your life is good, is not health, money or anything you can aquire by choice (lifeSTYLE) but how other treat you. Even if you are sick and unhealthy, if you other people it doesnt matter.

Your argument just doesnt hold up. idk what to say dude, idk, go on, type a reply with the stephen hawking shit that reads your eyeball movements while drooling on your lap. Your mom is downstairs praying a malfunction burns you alive in your wheelchair.
 
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ok youre fucking with me. I think the dogshit i stepped in earlier had more iq than you.




also, if most people life full lifestyles, why is depression sky rocketing? Why is marketing a thing when people are satisfied?
Nobody is happy, not a single person around you is happy, not even the filthy rich.

You cant even define what a "full lifestyle" is. Oh, you say having sex and money or some other materialistic shit.
Bro, look, I know im basically having an argument with a banana here, but just read this ok?



They spend almost a century, 80 years, recording peoples lifes as they aged. The conclusion is that the only thing that matters is relationships. Thats the one thing that makes life worthwhile.

And it makes sense, or all of our ancestors, that compared to us had no material comforts whatsoever, wouldve been depressed messes and just killed themselves. Even the wealthiest people didnt even tap water back then.

So, adressing what you said:
1.:"lifestyle" doesnt exist. "style" implies choice, which there isnt any. If we could chose to be happy, nobody would be on this forum, there would be alternative ways to be satisfied. They dont exist.
2. As the study shows, the only way to be happy is to have good relationships with other people, which you dont have because you are talking to me rn, on this fuckshit.

This also overlaps with the life quantity vs life quality thing.
Why do you want to life as long as possible?
Why not life an extremely good but short life?
The ideal would be long and good right?
But the deciding factor if your life is good, is not health, money or anything you can aquire by choice (lifeSTYLE) but how other treat you. Even if you are sick and unhealthy, if you other people it doesnt matter.

Your argument just doesnt hold up. idk what to say dude, idk, go on, type a reply with the stephen hawking shit that reads your eyeball movements while drooling on your lap. Your mom is downstairs praying a malfunction burns you alive in your wheelchair.
Not one study was linked
Not one pixel was read
 
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Jesus.... people really refuse to let this one go dont they.... im not sure if you're doing this in bad faith or you if u still haven't got the memo but that's a recovery pic, not a final result. it hadn't been 2 months from surgery on that pic. I was bloated af and was wearing braces which were pushing my lips forward. thats why i looked weird.

I have posted plenty of recent videos, i wonder why you didnt show any of them on this thread? :unsure:
well i guess they wouldn't have done a good job making me look bad which is your intent :rolleyes:
 
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Jesus.... people really refuse to let this one go dont they.... im not sure if you're doing this in bad faith or you if u still haven't got the memo but that's a recovery pic, not a final result. it hadn't been 2 months from surgery on that pic. I was bloated af and was wearing braces which were pushing my lips forward. thats why i looked weird.

I have posted plenty of recent videos, i wonder why you didnt show any of them on this thread? :unsure:
well i guess they wouldn't have done a good job making me look bad which is your intent :rolleyes:
wheres a post of recent pics with no bloating? can you link it?
 
2. As the study shows, the only way to be happy is to have good relationships with other people, which you dont have because you are talking to me rn, on this fuckshit.

If you are born as an autist it never begins for you.
 
If you are born as an autist it never begins for you.
 

When it comes to fucking NT-pill sure is a cope. When it comes to loneliness NT-pill is VERY legit. Like my father who was also an autist I HATE it when things are not ordered and structured EXACTLY like I want them to be. This makes it impossible to live with another person. It is also why my mom and dad got divorced because she couldn't live with him wanting every object in the apartment to be at the exact place he wanted it to be in. I have this same exact thing. And like my dad ended up dying completely alone after years of isolation I have also been isolated for years. Even now that I have friends I try to avoid hanging out with them as much as I can since doing so means I have to be spontaneous and have to do stuff they want to do etc. which as an autist I FUCKING HATE. Same with girls. The few times I liked a girl I couldn't spend time with her because I HATE spending time with others. It means I can not live my life by my autistic rule set. And it always ends up with women being pissed off at me because I do not call them anymore etc. because I hate spending time with people. I also hate loneliness. It's like my autism means I can not be with people but I still hate being lonely like any other person. This is absolutely legit.
 
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When it comes to fucking NT-pill sure is a cope. When it comes to loneliness NT-pill is VERY legit. Like my father who was also an autist I HATE it when things are not ordered and structured EXACTLY like I want them to be. This makes it impossible to live with another person. It is also why my mom and dad got divorced because she couldn't live with him wanting every object in the apartment to be at the exact place he wanted it to be in. I have this same exact thing. And like my dad ended up dying completely alone after years of isolation I have also been isolated for years. Even now that I have friends I try to avoid hanging out with them as much as I can since doing so means I have to be spontaneous and have to do stuff they want to do etc. which as an autist I FUCKING HATE. Same with girls. The few times I liked a girl I couldn't spend time with her because I HATE spending time with others. It means I can not live my life by my autistic rule set. And it always ends up with women being pissed off at me because I do not call them anymore etc. because I hate spending time with people. I also hate loneliness. It's like my autism means I can not be with people but I still hate being lonely like any other person. This is absolutely legit.
Do you think its genes or environment that causes this, or a bit of both
 
Do you think its genes or environment that causes this, or a bit of both
Primarily genes. My dad was incredibly similar to me like nobody else. His sisters etc. all wondered why he wouldn't talk to them anymore while I perfectly understood. He had certain patterns of thinking that nobody else would understand or accept and constantly fighting against others questioning these thinking patterns would drain his energy like nothing else. And the same exact thing applies to me. I have certain patterns of thinking and acting that I NEED in my life. I can not and don't want to get rid of them. And others are constantly questioning that which is draining my energy which makes me want to be alone. This is what autism does. It makes you weird for others which makes it exhausting to deal with others as they will question you which makes you want to be alone.
 
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That very negative
 
not everyone needs bimax. even if you need bimax it means it's just a beginning you need probably more than one surgery. anyone can complete their surgeries in 1-2 years.
 

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