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i dont buy the high functioning autist spiel either. in my eyes thats just personality, not actual neurodivergenceClavicular doesn't have autism, cockroach tier IQ normies buy that out of course, he acts like one but obviously isn't one
OP you're a mathcel just like me btw. i have autism as well but i don't know, based on my personal experience it really isn't that bad, and i live in Latin America, the epitome of neurotypicalness, but i feel that most of my problems come from the fact that i am ugly, autism just enhances the chances of ending up isolated, and makes you even more awkward if you already look low trust, which is my case, reality may be different in other places though, i am taking a shit rn so ill expand on my view later, but autism isn't an absolute death sentence is what i am trying to say, maybe your studies take in mind some brutal tier aspies, like disability tier, i mean i do believe that autism itself is a disability but you know what i mean
most of the times its just what we call abused dog syndrome, ugly people that got actively neglected socially and romantically by their peers during childhood and adolescence end up becoming anxious, unfitting and emotionally dysregulated, like a wolf that got left out to starve by their pack, and he somehow survived, but even if he does survive he'll probably never be able to re-enter into a pack, he'll have resentment and anger, this can be very beneficial if the user is true/honest to himself and uses that as fuel to achieve greatness, lots of the big names in history have been losersi dont buy the high functioning autist spiel either. in my eyes thats just personality, not actual neurodivergence
Yeah i totally get that, great point too.most of the times its just what we call abused dog syndrome, ugly people that got actively neglected socially and romantically by their peers during childhood and adolescence end up becoming anxious, unfitting and emotionally dysregulated, like a wolf that got left out to starve by their pack, and he somehow survived, but even if he does survive he'll probably never be able to re-enter into a pack, he'll have resentment and anger, this can be very beneficial if the user is true/honest to himself and uses that as fuel to achieve greatness, lots of the big names in history have been losers
It doesn't matter if you buy it or not. High-functioning autists have a higher unemployment rate than schizophrenics, that's the fact.i dont buy the high functioning autist spiel either. in my eyes thats just personality, not actual neurodivergence
This doesn't work as an explanation, because high-functioning autism is diagnosed on average at the age of 4.most of the times its just what we call abused dog syndrome, ugly people that got actively neglected socially and romantically by their peers during childhood and adolescence end up becoming anxious, unfitting and emotionally dysregulated, like a wolf that got left out to starve by their pack, and he somehow survived, but even if he does survive he'll probably never be able to re-enter into a pack, he'll have resentment and anger, this can be very beneficial if the user is true/honest to himself and uses that as fuel to achieve greatness, lots of the big names in history have been losers
I know, i am talking about self diagnosed people that believe they're high functioning, mainly was talking about clavicularThis doesn't work as an explanation, because high-functioning autism is diagnosed on average at the age of 4.
Yeah, you just feel it. That's all it is, a feeling. But what is the fact of the matter... seriously, look at those numbers again. Those are for high-functioning autists. That means they aren't drooling mutes, that means their IQs are higher than 80, etc. They are just people like @Xangsane, or like you or me.but i feel that most of my problems come from the fact that i am ugly
why cant it just be high iq that makes it difficult for someone to fit in socially. why does it have to be high functioning autismYeah, you just feel it. That's all it is, a feeling. But what is the fact of the matter... seriously, look at those numbers again. Those are for high-functioning autists. That means they aren't drooling mutes, that means their IQs are higher than 80, etc. They are just people like @Xangsane, or like you or me.
Will re evaluate and give my opinion laterYeah, you just feel it. That's all it is, a feeling. But what is the fact of the matter... seriously, look at those numbers again. Those are for high-functioning autists. That means they aren't drooling mutes, that means their IQs are higher than 80, etc. They are just people like @Xangsane, or like you or me.
both make it difficult for someone to fit in, but the difference comes from how actively you become isolated, an autist will be detached by society while the highly intelligent individual can "fit in" as long as he dumbs down his conversations and interactions, internally though he will feel alienatedwhy cant it just be high iq that makes it difficult for someone to fit in socially. why does it have to be high functioning autism
alright. anyways im done talking out of my ass now, but this was interestingboth make it difficult for someone to fit in, but the difference comes from how actively you become isolated, an autist will be detached by society while the highly intelligent individual can "fit in" as long as he dumbs down his conversations and interactions, internally though he will feel alienated
Autism isn't just conversational and thinking differences like that. You look uncomfortable and strange to people instantly. It's physical as well. This was a famous nature study of thin-slice judgments that came to this conclusion, I included it as the first line of my thread.why cant it just be high iq that makes it difficult for someone to fit in socially. why does it have to be high functioning autism
now that is interesting. i didnt know the brain subconsciously sniffs out neurodivergentsAutism isn't just conversational and thinking differences like that. You look uncomfortable and strange to people instantly. It's physical as well. This was a famous nature study of thin-slice judgments that came to this conclusion, I included it as the first line of my thread.
Having high IQ predisposes you to being ND though.
youre a real scholar alienmaxxer, you too AndremlnAutism isn't just conversational and thinking differences like that. You look uncomfortable and strange to people instantly. It's physical as well. This was a famous nature study of thin-slice judgments that came to this conclusion, I included it as the first line of my thread.
Having high IQ predisposes you to being ND though.
I've met 2000+ elo in chess top university straight A olympiad STEM majors who are balding and not on fin. They could have looked up their problem in a few minutes a year ago and solved it with their IQ, but didn't. I've met other very intelligent people that dressed in ridiculous ways and paid no attention to their looks. I've met smart people who ignored and made obviously stupid decisions like not consider their future occupation. Why can't they realize this idea which would vastly improve their life? If they are so high IQ, they should easily be able to figure it out, but they don't... why? WHY?Autism isn't just conversational and thinking differences like that. You look uncomfortable and strange to people instantly. It's physical as well. This was a famous nature study of thin-slice judgments that came to this conclusion, I included it as the first line of my thread.
Having high IQ predisposes you to being ND though.
Yeah i remember even as a kid feeling like a weird animal trying to appear to be human, but until i was 10 - 11 i still didn't need to put extreme effort into looking normal, i had many friends many of them being giga neurotypical and was never bullied, played soccer, xbox, talked about normie interests, etc.Autism isn't just conversational and thinking differences like that. You look uncomfortable and strange to people instantly. It's physical as well. This was a famous nature study of thin-slice judgments that came to this conclusion, I included it as the first line of my thread.
Having high IQ predisposes you to being ND though.
It's been on my mind for a long time too. I think it's them lacking conscientiousness (orderliness and industriousness) and courage. There is actually a negative correlation between intelligence and conscientiousness.I've met 2000+ elo in chess top university straight A olympiad STEM majors who are balding and not on fin. They could have looked up their problem in a few minutes a year ago and solved it with their IQ, but didn't. I've met other very intelligent people that dressed in ridiculous ways and paid no attention to their looks. I've met smart people who ignored and made obviously stupid decisions like not consider their future occupation. Why can't they realize this idea which would vastly improve their life? If they are so high IQ, they should easily be able to figure it out, but they don't... why? WHY?
Are they actually just low IQ? This seems unlikely. So what is the x factor they are missing that would allow them to come to these conclusions? HELP!
i wonder about this exact thing every single day of my life. Thats the next conundrum youll have to solve alienmaxxer
I was the same way. Though I still had intense special interests (like math at that age), I had quite a lot of friends. But I was a jestermaxxer as well - it most likely started because people would laugh at me when I didn't mean to make a joke so I just ran with it.but until i was 10 - 11 i still didn't need to put extreme effort into looking normal, i had many friends many of them being giga neurotypical and was never bullied, played soccer, xbox, talked about normie interests, etc.
I also made a small friend group in hs, but I was kicked out of it halfway through and left with no one for the remaining time. Absolutely brutal.though for some reason i was able to make very neurotypical friends in high school, they were troublemakers though, so i don't know what that tells about me and what people think i may offer them
Yes, after puberty and especially after jestermaxxing was no longer sufficient to carry conversations, social life became much harder and basically got destroyed for me. I'm more high trust looking, but it doesn't seem to help. I find girls say a high-trust autist is "cute," but they wouldn't want to be in a relationship with you or anything.Once puberty hit, you stop looking cute and childlike, so its a death sentence for autists, because before that you may come off as introvert or weird, but harmless, now you mean uncanny and danger. and as you say, people detect this in miliseconds, they avoid you, ignore you, girls get repulsed by you, but in my case i feel like i may be even more fucked because i look low trust as fuck, i am pale with pitch black dense hair, hooded eyes, pronounced browridge, wide af zygos recessed maxilla and mandible, i just look severely unapproachable
I never had extreme special interests, i did always enjoy learning about many things never restricting myself to a specific theme, but always much more scientifically oriented rather than mathematically, matter of fact i wanted to study medicine until last year, i shifted towards enjoying mathematics and physics a lot.I was the same way. Though I still had intense special interests (like math at that age), I had quite a lot of friends. But I was a jestermaxxer as well - it most likely started because people would laugh at me when I didn't mean to make a joke so I just ran with it.
Shit man that is awful, i would've thought that since it was a math students only thing most people would be introverted and chill, but those bitches were probably weirdos and felt abused as teens as well, anyone with hate in their heart has resentment and anger and needs an scapegoat, literally no beautiful girl has hate in their heart, worst case they're ignorant.I went to a math research internship thing for a few months filled with math students. I tried hard to mask but it didn't work, in fact during the first few nights one of the girls started raging at me while drunk yelling at me calling me a pussy for not sharing enough about myself... then another girl said she hated her professor because he was autistic in front of me knowing I was an autist JFL. Though I was interacting with everyone, I was ostracized after two or three weeks. I was so depressed I just gave up with that and did research the rest of the time.
I haven't made a friend since I moved a year or so ago, so yeah. Over.
Again, his point was: Other than extreme cases (like burn victims), a short NT man will do better than an average height or tall autistThe fact that non of us niggas would want to be a sub-burnvictim/5'3 NT guy over being a 6'1 autist PLUS the fact that none of the foid whore species of this earth called women would fuck a sub-burnvictim/5'3 NT guy is the biggest proof in itself boyoniggertard
Something about autism makes us be devoid of the "capable of loving" genewhy are autistic people incapble of falling in love?
What I hate is the fact I'm normal-passing enough to get invited to social events (something I don't even want or enjoy), yet too strange to get what I actually want: a foidI’m gl and tall yet struggle with girls and ppl in general bc of asperger’s. We can’t connect w ppl like NTs can , it’s a stunt fs
do you get nervous in social situations or not at all?What I hate is the fact I'm normal-passing enough to get invited to social events (something I don't even want or enjoy), yet too strange to get what I actually want: a foid
Yeh. never met a girl that genuinely ever felt interest in me despite MTN, not even the genuine lowest of the low LTB burn victims. Worst feeling of your life that autists like me and u feel daily is when someones laughing at some random shi you just dont fucking understand then u get the bad feeling its something u saidSomething about autism makes us be devoid of the "capable of loving" gene
Damn i can see why that would suck indeedYeh. never met a girl that genuinely ever felt interest in me despite MTN, not even the genuine lowest of the low LTB burn victims. Worst feeling of your life that autists like me and u feel daily is when someones laughing at some random shi you just dont fucking understand then u get the bad feeling its something u said
I'm a HTN with only mild autism, @AryanSchizo is (according to his description of himself) a fellow mild autist who's even higher than me on the looks scale and taller than me, yet we both struggle to get foidsthing is tho mate
whatever extent of ndness you want to use (say bottom2%) you need to compare that with the same level as face or height for an actual comparison (bottom2% face or height), and in the end with the same percentile, face and height are still more important
Even though you were quoting a different mild autist, I will answer from my perspective:you cant read social cues? whats the deal with aspergers, what does it feel like to have it?
what's stopping you from stroking her arm and initiating a kiss, then escalating into intimacy. Its no different than executing a football play, one two dribbleEven though you were quoting a different mild autist, I will answer from my perspective:
My autism is mild enough I can sometimes read foids' "fuck me" cues, yet I lack the neurological capability of knowing how to act on her cue
worst part is im literally 6ft 21in bidelt but im a fucking Nd Indian so it doesn't even matter cause I just get raped by every foidI'm a HTN with only mild autism, @AryanSchizo is (according to his description of himself) a fellow mild autist who's even higher than me on the looks scale and taller than me, yet we both struggle to get foids
The idea that it's only the absolute bottom autists who struggle couldn't be more false
cause if I just do that any time then I get a fucking restraining order browhat's stopping you from stroking her arm and initiating a kiss, then escalating into intimacy. Its no different than executing a football play, one two dribble
Most Brutal Part, most people don't even know they have it and probably never will and even when they find out, theres not much you can do.Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.
Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.
People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.
Idk about clavicular being pseudo autistic. He talks like an autistic person does. He has a very weird voice and is very robotic with how he speaks.counter argument:
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what you call autism is not actual autism, which makes your thread pointless.
Sure if we're talking about actual autism as in spastic mutes then yes everything you say is def true.
But if we're talking about pseudo autists such as Clavicular then he's clearly proving that "autism" isnt a big deal at all
Yeah the ones that beat their own head until they get braindamage and have to wear helmets?I mean bad studies since many who have authism is mental retarded in the iq sense. So they are basically retarded, not just socially
Yea many of them have authism yesYeah the ones that beat their own head until they get braindamage and have to wear helmets?
blessed being 4 inches taller than my dad cause of rowing plus 21in bidelt, cursed with being Indian 5 inch skinny dick and brutally ndMost Brutal Part, most people don't even know they have it and probably never will and even when they find out, theres not much you can do.
Its so fucking over for NDcels.
No. His description of his autism is a lot like mine. He really is an autistnigha ur just socially anxious or smth
ND and Indian,blessed being 4 inches taller than my dad cause of rowing plus 21in bidelt, cursed with being Indian 5 inch skinny dick and brutally nd
brutally relatable ive flirted so much and genuinely never been able to do shit with itNo. His description of his autism is a lot like mine. He really is an autist
Social phobia is being afraid a foid might say no
Asperger's is being able to identify that a foid wants us yet still being incapable of shooting our shot (@AryanSchizo ran into that scenario at a food service job, I've run into that scenario at work and in other settings)
are you saying that aspergers is your brain cockblocking itself from reproduction because it knows its malformed, lolNo. His description of his autism is a lot like mine. He really is an autist
Social phobia is being afraid a foid might say no
Asperger's is being able to identify that a foid wants us yet still being incapable of shooting our shot (@AryanSchizo ran into that scenario at a food service job, I've run into that scenario at work and in other settings)
you can be a Chad and still struggle with women and life if you have autism
social frauding works surprisingly well, just internalized low inhib from all my aryan 6'5" giant rowing friends and my life is better now. Autists and spergs like me just have high inhib if u can overcome it even if u stutter a shit ton it lowkey works cause foids think its kinda cuteND and Indian,
and i thought i had it bad
Being in Latin America helpsClavicular doesn't have autism, cockroach tier IQ normies buy that out of course, he acts like one but obviously isn't one
OP you're a mathcel just like me btw. i have autism as well but i don't know, based on my personal experience it really isn't that bad, and i live in Latin America, the epitome of neurotypicalness, but i feel that most of my problems come from the fact that i am ugly, autism just enhances the chances of ending up isolated, and makes you even more awkward if you already look low trust, which is my case, reality may be different in other places though, i am taking a shit rn so ill expand on my view later, but autism isn't an absolute death sentence is what i am trying to say, maybe your studies take in mind some brutal tier aspies, like disability tier, i mean i do believe that autism itself is a disability but you know what i mean
low inhib escortmaxxer, longterm relationshipsBeing in Latin America helps
Latinas are more accepting of autism
My last free lay was a Latina
My longest relationship (8 months when I was 21-22 in 2013) was a Latina
Lol same, my dads extremely confident so i just take some pregab and start pretending to be NT.social frauding works surprisingly well, just internalized low inhib from all my aryan 6'5" giant rowing friends and my life is better now. Autists and spergs like me just have high inhib if u can overcome it even if u stutter a shit ton it lowkey works cause foids think its kinda cute
My brother was #1 academically in his high school class, yet has always had a vibrant social lifewhy cant it just be high iq that makes it difficult for someone to fit in socially. why does it have to be high functioning autism
ThisYeah i remember even as a kid feeling like a weird animal trying to appear to be human, but until i was 10 - 11 i still didn't need to put extreme effort into looking normal, i had many friends many of them being giga neurotypical and was never bullied, played soccer, xbox, talked about normie interests, etc.
Once puberty hit, you stop looking cute and childlike, so its a death sentence for autists, because before that you may come off as introvert or weird, but harmless, now you mean uncanny and danger. and as you say, people detect this in miliseconds, they avoid you, ignore you, girls get repulsed by you, but in my case i feel like i may be even more fucked because i look low trust as fuck, i am pale with pitch black dense hair, hooded eyes, pronounced browridge, wide af zygos recessed maxilla and mandible, i just look severely unapproachable, during my adolescence i felt undeserving of love, of feeling the warm from others, i still am very alone, though for some reason i was able to make very neurotypical friends in high school, they were troublemakers though, so i don't know what that tells about me and what people think i may offer them
My dad's a morbidly obese tech bro who gave me bone spurs hip impingement and high leg/hip insertions, my mom is also a 5'2 lltb. both are brutally nd (arranged marriage) and my dads even smaller than I am. I have no reason to be as high psl as I amLol same, my dads extremely confident so i just take some pregab and start pretending to be NT.
At least I got a role model ig.