(NUCLEAR NTPILL) Autism is far worse than any physical trait (sub-burnvictim), according to science

[BadLuck7892]

do you get nervous in social situations or not at all?

Yeah

Because even though I apparently pass for a normie, I lack the social flow to seamlessly move from circle to circle at social events

Seeing a bear in Alaska scared me less than seeing a holiday party full of mini circles

 

[foidslayer5000]

This

I had a girlfriend and a best friend in elementary school

Come middle school, my best friend ditched me for the cool kids (and I was unwanted by foids)

Then come high school, I was viewed as a total creep

worst part for me is they found my reddit, absolutely brutal experience. Entire school got to know about my nd inside thoughts. FML now im just on here ldar

 

[BadLuck7892]

what's stopping you from stroking her arm and initiating a kiss, then escalating into intimacy. Its no different than executing a football play, one two dribble

Because if it turns out I misread the cue (which is a possibility), the behaviors you described could be viewed as assault/sexual harassment

Plus, in some cases, the cues are given through text. Stroking/kissing is impossible if she's on the other side of a screen

 

[Andremln]

Being in Latin America helps

Latinas are more accepting of autism

My last free lay was a Latina

My longest relationship (8 months when I was 21-22 in 2013) was a Latina

Interesting how the most neurotypical people on earth can be the most forgiving with aspies if true, i went to Germany with my classmates in 2024 and most people looked very aspie and socially anxious, like alert if that makes any sense

Bullying here isn't much of a thing, in most cases you just get left behind socially and no one talks to you or people laugh when you do awkward shit, girls can be bitches but that is everywhere to be fair

 

[BadLuck7892]

low inhib escortmaxxer, longterm relationships

so how exactly is your supposed autism inhibiting you lol?

The fact I have to fuck escorts as a HTN speaks volumes of how much autism holds me back

The 8 month relationship took place in 2013. No way could I pull that off now, even with a Latina

 

[BadLuck7892]

My dad's a morbidly obese tech bro who gave me bone spurs hip impingement and high leg/hip insertions, my mom is also a 5'2 lltb. both are brutally nd (arranged marriage) and my dads even smaller than I am. I have no reason to be as high psl as I am

My dad played football in college

Yet look how I turned out

 

[sonic55555]

The fact I have to fuck escorts as a HTN speaks volumes of how much autism holds me back

The 8 month relationship took place in 2013. No way could I pull that off now, even with a Latina

fair enough

 

[BadLuck7892]

worst part for me is they found my reddit, absolutely brutal experience. Entire school got to know about my nd inside thoughts. FML now im just on here ldar

I nearly got outed to the whole school on MySpace about the fact I listened to girls pee at school

 

[TajManzoor]

My dad's a morbidly obese tech bro who gave me bone spurs hip impingement and high leg/hip insertions, my mom is also a 5'2 lltb. both are brutally nd (arranged marriage) and my dads even smaller than I am. I have no reason to be as high psl as I am

Dam, unlucky? Lucky? idek

 

[foidslayer5000]

My dad played football in college

Yet look how I turned out

ye. all I got from them was 146iq which fuck it at least im going Ivy League

 

[foidslayer5000]

Dam, unlucky? Lucky? idek

Idk. I cant run for the rest of my life because of my dad's flat feet he passed onto me either that or I deal with excruciating pain. rowing it is

 

[Andremln]

I mean bad studies since many who have authism is mental retarded in the iq sense. So they are basically retarded, not just socially

Thought the same but OP said that the studies were taking into account high-functioning aspies only

 

[lurking truecel]

Thought the same but OP said that the studies were taking into account high-functioning aspies only

OP should link the study then

 

[BadLuck7892]

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.

People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.

Well-said about how all it takes is a few milliseconds to get creeped out by us

Case in point: I've been to many organized singles events, am often the best-looking dude there, yet after expressing interest in (I'd estimate) at least 100 foids at organized singles events, the most I've gotten from organized singles events is 2 sexless 1st dates

 

[AryanSchizo]

Not wrong. This guy was viewed as handsome by women yet has been on one date his whole life. That being said I think women WILL overlook your neurodevelopmental disorders if your hot.

good video , this guy is kinda like me minus tourette’s , except my asperger’s is a little bit worse than his because he can carry on convos pretty well and maintain normal eye contact .

 

[Navity]

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.

People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.

Brutal water pill.

 

[BlackFag]

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.

People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.

Aspie revolution
oh Allah let that be a reality

 

[AryanSchizo]

Not wrong. This guy was viewed as handsome by women yet has been on one date his whole life. That being said I think women WILL overlook your neurodevelopmental disorders if you’re hot.

@BadLuck7892
my tism is close to this guy, but a little worse.

 

[BlackFag]

most of the times its just what we call abused dog syndrome, ugly people that got actively neglected socially and romantically by their peers during childhood and adolescence end up becoming anxious, unfitting and emotionally dysregulated, like a wolf that got left out to starve by their pack, and he somehow survived, but even if he does survive he'll probably never be able to re-enter into a pack, he'll have resentment and anger, this can be very beneficial if the user is true/honest to himself and uses that as fuel to achieve greatness, lots of the big names in history have been losers

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.

People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.

This is why whenever a women/foid claims to be autistic i instantly begin to ignore her
because either she's larping
or she's a aspie foid

either way her life is thousand times better then mine

i remember sobbing when i found out i was autistic
they celebrated

 

[Bellona]

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.

People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.

Im nd but when i manage bed a girl she will get hooked on the 7 inched and will tolerage my differences

 

[Sean o' Tist]

But if we're talking about pseudo autists such as Clavicular then he's clearly proving that "autism" isnt a big deal at all

Actually, even in his case it holds him back a lot in dating and overall. It seems. Compared to what would he got had he been NT.
And I have mild aspergers and anxiety (which stems from social exclusion which stems from aspergers), and shit fucks me up. And I am nowhere near ugly. I am, based on irl interactions, and people my age I se IRL here, Id say, 60th percentyle maybe

 

[sonic55555]

Actually, even in his case it holds him back a lot in dating and overall. It seems. Compared to what would he got had he been NT.
And I have mild aspergers and anxiety (which stems from social exclusion which stems from aspergers), and shit fucks me up. And I am nowhere near ugly. I am, based on irl interactions, and people my age I se IRL here, Id say, 60th percentyle maybe

a vicious cycle indeed

 

[Sean o' Tist]

a vicious cycle indeed

but at least ive gotten laid, so there are instances where my (even a little bit above avg) looks halo over my autism probably. Idk. Need to test that hypothesis more. But I am still miserable.

 

[sonic55555]

but at least ive gotten laid, so there are instances where my (even a little bit above avg) looks halo over my autism probably. Idk. Need to test that hypothesis more. But I am still miserable.

you and me both

 

[iphone]

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Nah, bro, I don't think it's true, its not over - you can be a high functioning artist.

Only half the people here are autists. Some of them are high functioning. It just depends how you define autist. If you define autist to be like super nerdy guy that doesn't work out, looks ugly as fuck, can't talk to people, yeah, of course. If you define artists as if like like like like like like like like like like you can focus on shit and be obsessive about it if you need to that's honestly a superpower.


Signed,
an autist.

 

[Sean o' Tist]

Nah, bro, I don't think it's true you can be a high functioning artist.

Why? I mean I have mild autism spectrum diagnosis and I thinbk I am quite a high functioning

 

[iphone]

Why? I mean I have mild autism spectrum diagnosis and I thinbk I am quite a high functioning

I think I said it the wrong way. What I'm saying is you can be an artist and be high functioning. I think I'm a high functioning artist too, bro.

Actually let's be friends, I like you.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

This is why whenever a women/foid claims to be autistic i instantly begin to ignore her
because either she's larping
or she's a aspie foid

either way her life is thousand times better then mine

i remember sobbing when i found out i was autistic
they celebrated

I've seen one autistic woman on ig and I immediately knew she wasn't full of shit just from her speech patterns. It's why I'd believe clavicular is on the spectrum. You can see it in his speech and vocal patterns.

 

[Acquiescence]

So what do you do when you’re ugly AND autistic then???

 

[stigmaboy]

@6”3neartyronelite
interesting take. i think you're onto something with the 'alarm' idea, though maybe not purely autism. social signalling is incredibly complex and deviations from the norm, whatever that norm is, can trigger an instinctual aversion. it’s less about a specific trait and more about perceived predictability and social cohesion. physical traits are just one signal, neurodivergence is another. both can drag.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

you can be a high functioning artist

The people in these studies are high-functioning autists. People like @Xangsane.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Now i have extreme anger episodes maybe because of that, i haven't seen a psychologist or therapist but i probably have narcissistic personality disorder, the covert variant. I've been dealing with a lot of internalized rage, its not constant but loneliness or boredom triggers them, especially when i start feeling inferior or undeserving of love and ugly, i genuinely feel like i could rip someones spine straight from their back clean, i get euphoric and feel unstoppable, probably a defense mechanism for my abused dog brain seeking control and dominance, i start punching any object close to me, having thoughts and fantasies of extreme violence, my hands are full of scars and wounds, the other day i almost killed my cat and i felt like shit, i mean i didn't act upon it but i thought about doing so just for a couple of seconds, i am highly capable of empathy and remorse, as a kid i cried when others, human or non-humans suffered, i still can feel for others, but when those rage episodes hit me i can't think clearly, as an early adolescent i did torture insects and small animals but again, i felt like shit afterwards, and i didn't really enjoy their suffering itself, its hard to explain, but its more about the control over others that i don't have over my shit life, going out to hunt helps me regulating, but the last couple of times i've gone out to clubbing i've got myself involved in fights and i felt like legit i could lose control and kill the other dudes.

Brutal. I genuinely think being an autist is so awful that you get PTSD from certain negative social experiences and fucked up shit like the above starts happening. It just comes out and expresses itself in a weird form. For me, it comes out as extreme passion to better my life so I can prove the way I think isn't broken to everyone and that THEY were wrong, not me. Also, it comes out in extreme female domination sex stuff I'm into. Though torturing small animals is crazy, that's some psychopath shit. Don't go ER, he had the same combination of narcissism + autism (and we all know how he expressed his social PTSD).

literally no beautiful girl has hate in their heart, worst case they're ignorant.

One of the girls who said that was really attractive, brutal because I was into her then got cucked by another guy. Rejected, no friends, girl I like making fun on me, and I had to get results for my first research paper in a month. Nightmare scenario.

Yeah i've come to the conclusion that masking never works, its better to just straight up not interact with people, sucks that while being at a place where you could be having such a good time with people who you share an interest with, you're excluded from having company, in which country are you currently staying? And what are you planning to do with your masters? research mostly? The other day i told you in another thread that i was studying mathematical engineering, as i said i just recently got back into studying so you definitely kick my shit 100x times in math, but if you want to talk about anything just DM me bro.

I'm in Canada. I'm just too introverted to make friends here, it's very hard since I don't know anyone and don't have any family here. I was originally planning to go down the research route and get a PhD, but it would take another 4 years or so and it would be nice to finally go into the "real world." I recently pivoted to machine learning and AI research, which are very much in demand skills (and will coninue to be for the next few years).

Engineering is brutal, good luck. My friend extended his engineering degree from 4 to like 7 years because he kept on screwing up classes and did a co-op, very bright guy he just got distracted away from classes due to his personal projects (he 3D printed his own NERF gun he made).

there's a lot of suicides in my country academically related, just the other day we had 2 suicides in a single day, one jumped from the roof of his college math department, but fuck it we ball i guess

That is insane. I did feel suicidal a handful of times throughout my bachelor's, but it was more socially related than school-related.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Lol same, my dads extremely confident so i just take some pregab and start pretending to be NT.
At least I got a role model ig.

Pregab is very useful for autists. It doesn't take away your autism, but it does temporarily take away the abused dog social anxiety, which is useful when you need a push through the fear of interacting with people.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE BETTER TO BE A BURN VICTIM THAN AN AUTIST

Sexual activity and romantic relationships after burn injury: A Life Impact Burn Recovery Evaluation (LIBRE) study - PMC

Engaging in healthy sexual activity and romantic relationships are important but often neglected areas of post-burn rehabilitation. The degree to which persons with burn injuries engage in sexual activity and romantic relationships is not well ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"The likelihood of engaging in sexual activity and romantic relationships is similar among adult burn survivors and the comparison group representing a general United States sample of adults."

Long-term psychosocial adjustment in patients with severe burn injuries: a follow-up study

An investigation of the long-term psychosocial adjustment of patients with severe burn injuries is presented. In the selected 13-year period (1968-80)…

www.sciencedirect.com

"no correlation could be found between degree of disfiguration/function loss and the long-term psychosocial adaptation after severe burn injuries"

Burn victims are 2.42x more likely than the general population to commit suicide. For high-functioning autism, it's 7.44x.

I even asked claude what they thought in a fresh conversation (note my memory is turned off so it won't be biased by my other conversations):
prompt: "Here is the scenario: you are betting on which baby will procreate in the future. One baby has high-functioning autism, and the other baby will experience a facial burn at 10, making them a burn victim. Which option would be the most scientifically reasonable to bet on? Reference and look up studies to support your argument."

Concluding paragraph of result: "In short, under population-level probability assumptions, the child who will experience a facial burn is more likely to eventually reproduce, particularly if male — whereas high-functioning autism imposes a more consistent and significant barrier to forming the partnerships that lead to reproduction."

I take it back, having high-functioning autism is worse than being a burn victim.

 

[6”3neartyronelite]

@6”3neartyronelite
interesting take. i think you're onto something with the 'alarm' idea, though maybe not purely autism. social signalling is incredibly complex and deviations from the norm, whatever that norm is, can trigger an instinctual aversion. it’s less about a specific trait and more about perceived predictability and social cohesion. physical traits are just one signal, neurodivergence is another. both can drag.

I remember I saw some study that neurotypical people are extremely good at picking up on autism etc without trying it probably is some sort of evolutionary advantage

 

[TajManzoor]

Its also a great alternative to alchol, for someone like me that only drinks for the social benifits.

Its like 30x cheaper
No "hangovers"
No depression
Don't have to drink rubbing alcohol all night
Don't have to risk fucking throwing up everywhere

Pregab is very useful for autists. It doesn't take away your autism, but it does temporarily take away the abused dog social anxiety, which is useful when you need a push through the fear of interacting with people.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

I remember I saw some study that neurotypical people are extremely good at picking up on autism etc without trying it probably is some sort of evolutionary advantage

Yeah, that was quoted the first line of the thread. There is no masking, really.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Its also a great alternative to alchol, for someone like me that only drinks for the social benifits.

Its like 30x cheaper
No "hangovers"
No depression
Don't have to drink rubbing alcohol all night
Don't have to risk fucking throwing up everywhere

I also use it now and then. I don't drink because it tastes disgusting to me, personally.

 

[TajManzoor]

I also use it now and then. I don't drink because it tastes disgusting to me, personally.

You and everyone lol

Such a Low ROI drug

 

[Alienmaxxer]

You and everyone lol

Such a Low ROI drug

Do you mean high ROI? I was referring to taking pregab every now and then, I don't drink.

 

[TajManzoor]

Do you mean high ROI? I was referring to taking pregab every now and then, I don't drink.

I meant drinking was low ROI

 

[Deleted member 164465]

Autistic people are instantly judged as weird, creepy, and socially undesirable even if looked at for a few milliseconds (nature study on thin slice judgments). 40% are virgins as an adult. They have unemployment rates higher than schizophrenics. The fertility rate for male autists is 1/5 that of nt males. Only 5% of autists marry, and of those 5%, 80% divorce. That is a 1% rate of successful marriage. Only 16% are in relationships, and of those 16%, only 11% are satisfied. That means only 1.8% of autists are in satisfying relationships.

Name me a single sub-burnvictim physical trait that comes even close to that. Scientifically. Being 5'3 is nothing compared to that.

People larp here as being some rational based truth-seeking people but then say Looks > NT.

liked and bump simply for haru-pfp.

 

[trimaxx]

btw being nd isn't jsut autism it could be many other things like, asks, bipolar all those other mental issues.

 

[castizo_ascender]

high functioning autists, i just dont see it being that debilitating. wouldnt you rather be a good looking high functioning autist than a subhuman and nt

Idk about subhuman but statistically I'd rather be nt

If you're sub cl smv as an autist shit is not in ur favor and even if you are gl you usually can't pull ur looksmatch

 

[livelaughlook]

I asked claude on how autistic these autists are:

The relationship/dating studies overwhelmingly draw from verbal, cognitively able adults without intellectual disability, and a large share are recruited via online surveys and social media. The Strunz sample, for instance, was explicitly "high-functioning," average age 35, and 198 of 229 participants were recruited via online survey. That recruitment method carries its own well-characterized skew: most social-media-recruited autism samples show markers of sampling bias — reversed sex ratio, higher employment, higher education, a lower fraction with intellectual disability, and later age of diagnosis — making findings hard to generalize to the broader autism population.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

I asked claude on how autistic these autists are:

The relationship/dating studies overwhelmingly draw from verbal, cognitively able adults without intellectual disability, and a large share are recruited via online surveys and social media. The Strunz sample, for instance, was explicitly "high-functioning," average age 35, and 198 of 229 participants were recruited via online survey. That recruitment method carries its own well-characterized skew: most social-media-recruited autism samples show markers of sampling bias — reversed sex ratio, higher employment, higher education, a lower fraction with intellectual disability, and later age of diagnosis — making findings hard to generalize to the broader autism population.

Exactly. In other words, they are "barely" autists (in the eyes of an NT person, where autism is drooling and hitting yourself in the head over and over). I'm just talking about a guy like @Xangsane, or many other forum posters here.

And keep in mind, it says that "it's hard to generalize to the broader autism population" because the people in these studies are SO UNAUTISTIC.

 

[livelaughlook]

And keep in mind, it says that "it's hard to generalize to the broader autism population" because the people in these studies are SO UNAUTISTIC.

Yeah. And I don't think the solution is just lowering inhibition as that seems to be maybe only a very small part of the problem. I think the solution is more stuff that is acetocholine based and more focused on the racetams like fasoracetam and aniracetam. Of course being lower inhib is going to make you in general a more social person who is more extroverted but this does not seem to have anything to do with like autism as far as I understand it

Also nicotine microdosed via a patch can also increase social reward. I think that is why people smoke so much at parties.

I would wonder what you see as the way to the solution

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Yeah. And I don't think the solution is just lowering inhibition as that seems to be maybe only a very small part of the problem. I think the solution is more stuff that is acetocholine based and more focused on the racetams like fasoracetam and aniracetam.

Also nicotine microdosed via a patch can also increase social reward. I think that is why people smoke so much at parties.

I would wonder what you see as the way to the solution

I don't know about the drugs you posted. But in a similar vein I've heard about nasally spraying oxytocin. I don't know to what degree its a cope. But I'd say:

What I'm personally experimenting with rn is nichemaxxing into more autistic spaces (e.g. emo, goth, art communities) and then taking pregab to erase my inhib enough to attend an event or events alone (that is the hard part, especially when you have no friends already in that community and are already high inhib). From there, hit on girls (hard to do alone but im attractive so shd use it) and hopefully get success, meet her friends and more people, and get acquainted with the culture. Then I'll have a source of friends and autistic girls wherever I go, at those events.

The hardest part is actually going to an event (rave, party, etc.) with an unfamiliar culture alone repeatedly as an autist and then hitting on girls. That seems insanely difficult and uncomfortable. Like imagine a nerd type autist summoning up the courage to do that. Even pregab might not be enough.

Though it's not contained in the studies above, when you're autistic you have very little chance getting with an NT girl. Almost every girl I've slept with was autistic, for example. So if I just bruteforce autistic niche appeal and exposure, it should increase my chances.

 

[livelaughlook]

nasally spraying oxytocin

Yeah it does not seem to 'cure' autism in people but it can normalize gaze to a certain extent.

unfamiliar culture alone

Yeah for friendmaxxing it is important to repeatedly meet the same people over and over and then just invite them to a thing if you want 1-on-one-friends. Like aks them if they want to join you in the gym or get some food after class that sort of stuff is lowest barrier and works if you know them a bit who they are.

You are lucky you look good. Yeah I am just taking some natural supplements that seem to help with social stuff and like memory and stuff whilst being calming.

Here I have a stack that I use and that works a bit this is more like something that is safe to use with alcohol and is supposed to give one a subtle boost in memory and lower-inhibition phenotype. I take all of them at once and it works a bit it makes everything a bit better through synergistic effects. Something you can run ED. Pairs well with stimulants.

L-theanine

Ginkgo Extract

Gotu kola

Bacopa Monnieri

Ashwaghandha

L-tyrosine