Obsession is nothing but low IQ goyslop

[Notorious_1676]

Horrible movie, would not recommend.

Bear did nothing wrong, he's a cringe character but he's not vicious in any way. It's funny seeing Normies hate on him for not killing himself earlier as if any one of those virtue signalling moral fags would have had the guts to take their own lives to save someone else's life.

 

[Nox𓂀]

That's why I never watch any goyslop thing.

Living kosher is a blessing.

 

[Notorious_1676]

That's why I never watch any goyslop thing.

I actually couldn't believe the retarded takes I was hearing about this movie. These Normies are all a bunch of freaks

 

[Big Boss]

Dont deny hes insecure tho

Hes like the average .org user

 

[Notorious_1676]

Dont deny hes insecure tho

Hes like the average .org user

Doesn't change the fact that he did nothing wrong. He's a low IQ clown but he did nothing wrong

The average org user is not killing himself to save the life of another woman, had the average org user been in his position they would have known that Nikki only didn't reciprocate his feelings due to his physical appearance

 

[Big Boss]

Doesn't change the fact that he did nothing wrong. He's a low IQ clown but he did nothing wrong

The average org user is not killing himself to save the life of another woman, had the average org user been in his position they would have known that Nikki only didn't reciprocate his feelings due to his physical appearance

No one asked him to kill himself, but he willingly kept her captive knowing she wasnt even herself.

When she says kill me, he says “whats so wrong about being wwith me” then leaves.

When he finds out shes not herself and its the wish, he fucks her anyways, which is based, but objectively wrong and rape

 

[Notorious_1676]

No one asked him to kill himself, but he willingly kept her captive knowing she wasnt even herself.

When she says kill me, he says “whats so wrong about being wwith me” then leaves.

He clearly wanted to alter the wish, he wasn't smart enough to escape her soon enough and when he finally found a way his friend just made a wish for a billion dollars instead.

How would someone as unintelligent as Bear even get rid of the body if he were to kill her like she wished? And from his perspective it looked like Nikki was saying she would rather die than be with him

 

[reyik]

agree

 

[juggmaxx]

why do they even praise that retarded slop movie in the first place

 

[Notorious_1676]

why do they even praise that retarded slop movie in the first place

Low IQ and they're peer pressured by others to enjoy it. Normies are subconsciously terrified of being socially excluded

 

[Big Boss]

He clearly wanted to alter the wish, he wasn't smart enough to escape her soon enough and when he finally found a way his friend just made a wish for a billion dollars instead.

Exactly he wanted to alter the wish instead of get rid of it at first. Showing he doesnt really care about nikki as an individual, he just wants her as his personal object.

Imagine someone forcing you to love them.

How would someone as unintelligent as Bear even get rid of the body if he were to kill her like she wished? And from his perspective it looked like Nikki was saying she would rather die than be with him

He couldve called the police or even made any attempt to actually stop her. Instead he still wanted her to lose her autonomy and love him. From his perspective it looked like nikki was saying she would rather die than be with him? Thats a insecure perspective , to immediately make it about himself.

I think anyone with common sense or an ounce of empathy would realise you wouldnt want to be a passenger in your own body. She lost her ability to do anything but love him. He can clearly see how the wish was making her tweak tf out.

 

[Notorious_1676]

Exactly he wanted to alter the wish instead of get rid of it at first. Showing he doesnt really care about nikki as an individual, he just wants her as his personal object.

Imagine someone forcing you to love them.

He did care about her, he literally killed himself just to save her when he easily could have killed her instead. And what's wrong with wanting Nikki as an individual to love him? You're telling me you wouldn't do the same thing if you loved a foid and she didn't love you back? Keep in mind all his "friends" were constantly talking over him and undermining him at every oppurtunity, he had no one in his life who truly liked him so him forcing someone to like him is understandable.

He couldve called the police or even made any attempt to actually stop her. Instead he still wanted her to lose her autonomy and love him. From his perspective it looked like nikki was saying she would rather die than be with him? Thats a insecure perspective , to immediately make it about himself.

The police wouldn't have believed him and even if they did imagine how that would end up for him and Nikki. And he did make an attempt to stop her later on but his friend wished for a billion dollars and he killed himself later on to save her.

Making it about himself is the natural perspective, not only are human beings naturally self serving but Nikki is one of the only people he truly has. It is an insecure perspective to worry about being loved in that situation, I agree with you on that but what I'm saying is that he's not evil. Imagine if you loved a Woman for 2 years, finally got her and she begs you to kill her. Surely that would cause a bit of inner turmoil, no? And in the end he took his own life for her, the biggest form of love is sacrificing yourself for someone else.

 

[Big Boss]

He did care about her, he literally killed himself just to save her when he easily could have killed her instead. And what's wrong with wanting Nikki as an individual to love him? You're telling me you wouldn't do the same thing if you loved a foid and she didn't love you back? Keep in mind all his "friends" were constantly talking over him and undermining him at every oppurtunity, he had no one in his life who truly liked him so him forcing someone to like him is understandable.

The police wouldn't have believed him and even if they did imagine how that would end up for him and Nikki. And he did make an attempt to stop her later on but his friend wished for a billion dollars and he killed himself later on to save her.

Making it about himself is the natural perspective, not only are human beings naturally self serving but Nikki is one of the only people he truly has. It is an insecure perspective to worry about being loved in that situation, I agree with you on that but what I'm saying is that he's not evil. Imagine if you loved a Woman for 2 years, finally got her and she begs you to kill her. Surely that would cause a bit of inner turmoil, no? And in the end he took his own life for her, the biggest form of love is sacrificing yourself for someone else.

I never said he was evil. I said he did something wrong which isnt the same thing

The fact he eventually sacrificed himself proves he cared about nikki, ok sure. But caring about someone doesnt justify violating their autonomy. You keep saying that hes understandable and i agree hes lonely and desperate to be loved, like .org users . That explains why he acted the way he did but it doesnt make the actions morally right. Its like saying elliot rodgers actions were okay because they are “understandable”.

The moment he realizes nikkis love isnt real and is being forced by the wish, he has a choice. He can prioritise niikkis freedom or his own desire to be loved. And obviously he makes it about himself.

You keep bringing up that he eventually killed himself for her. That’s a redeeming act but not proof that everything beforehand was okay. A good action later doesnt erase a bad action earlier. Asking “wouldn’t you do the same?” isn’t a moral argument. Loads of people would make selfish choices in Bear’s situation. That doesn’t suddenly make those choices right.

For a period of time he loved the idea of being loved more than he respected Nikkis freedom to choose

 

[Zenis]

Horrible movie, would not recommend.

Bear did nothing wrong, he's a cringe character but he's not vicious in any way. It's funny seeing Normies hate on him for not killing himself earlier as if any one of those virtue signalling moral fags would have had the guts to take their own lives to save someone else's life.

yup thats what i said after i watched it, there is no fucking way people are mad at the guy. this movie was obviously created as a tactic to shame young men for wanting to be loved.

 

[diditeverbegin]

Only movies I like are Europa: The Last Battle and Birth of a Nation

 

[Notorious_1676]

I never said he was evil. I said he did something wrong which isnt the same thing

The fact he eventually sacrificed himself proves he cared about nikki, ok sure. But caring about someone doesnt justify violating their autonomy. You keep saying that hes understandable and i agree hes lonely and desperate to be loved, like .org users . That explains why he acted the way he did but it doesnt make the actions morally right. Its like saying elliot rodgers actions were okay because they are “understandable”.

The moment he realizes nikkis love isnt real and is being forced by the wish, he has a choice. He can prioritise niikkis freedom or his own desire to be loved. And obviously he makes it about himself.

You keep bringing up that he eventually killed himself for her. That’s a redeeming act but not proof that everything beforehand was okay. A good action later doesnt erase a bad action earlier. Asking “wouldn’t you do the same?” isn’t a moral argument. Loads of people would make selfish choices in Bear’s situation. That doesn’t suddenly make those choices right.

For a period of time he loved the idea of being loved more than he respected Nikkis freedom to choose

If by violating his anatomy you mean having sex with her then he didn't really he a choice. If you're talking about the wish he made then he didn't mean it in a literal sense. It was more of a figure of speech.

The only immoral thing he did was making it about himself when Nikki pleaded him to kill her and wanting to alter the wish.

And killing yourself to save someone instead of killing her yourself does make up for him being a bit self centered.

Why would he respect Nikki's freedom? All his friends talked over him and didn't respect him clearly, its ridiculous that he was "in love" with her in the first place.

 

[Big Boss]

If by violating his anatomy you mean having sex with her then he didn't really he a choice. If you're talking about the wish he made then he didn't mean it in a literal sense. It was more of a figure of speech.

The only immoral thing he did was making it about himself when Nikki pleaded him to kill her and wanting to alter the wish.

And killing yourself to save someone instead of killing her yourself does make up for him being a bit self centered.

Why would he respect Nikki's freedom? All his friends talked over him and didn't respect him clearly, its ridiculous that he was "in love" with her in the first place.

You’ve already changed your opinion tho

You started by saying Bear did nothing wrong. Now you’re saying the “only immoral thing he did was making it about himself and wanting to alter the wishp”

If something is immoral, then by definition he did something wrong

As for respecting Nikki’s freedom. Maybe because she’s a person? Whether his friends respected him or not has nothing to do with whether shes entitled to make her own choices. Being treated badly doesn’t give someone the right to take someone elses freedom/autonomy away

And no, sacrificing himself at the end doesnt erase his earlier actions. It shows growth. If anything his sacrifice works because he finally puts Nikki’s wellbeing above his own. That only has meaning because he wasnt doing that before

 

[Notorious_1676]

You’ve already changed your opinion tho

You started by saying Bear did nothing wrong. Now you’re saying the “only immoral thing he did was making it about himself and wanting to alter the wishp”

If something is immoral, then by definition he did something wrong

I forgot about that scene, and you said he's like the average org user. The average Org user would have put a bullet in Nikki's head

As for respecting Nikki’s freedom. Maybe because she’s a person? Whether his friends respected him or not has nothing to do with whether shes entitled to make her own choices. Being treated badly doesn’t give someone the right to take someone elses freedom/autonomy away

And no, sacrificing himself at the end doesnt erase his earlier actions. It shows growth. If anything his sacrifice works because he finally puts Nikki’s wellbeing above his own. That only has meaning because he wasnt doing that before

Every human being alive is a person irrelevant, she disregarded everything he said, if someone treats you badly you'll likely return the favour.

And he didn't take her freedom by choice, it was an accident. He didn't mean his wish in a literal sense.

And killing yourself to save someone who did nothing but belittle your existence does make up for being a little bit self centered when it comes to being loved. Objectively, he was a better person than her. The right decision would have been to kill her and he didnt even do that. He wasn't even mad at his friend for secretly fucking her for 2 years, he let him walk away unscratched.

Also, how have things gone with your cousin?

 

[Big Boss]

I forgot about that scene, and you said he's like the average org user. The average Org user would have put a bullet in Nikki's head

Every human being alive is a person irrelevant, she disregarded everything he said, if someone treats you badly you'll likely return the favour.

And he didn't take her freedom by choice, it was an accident. He didn't mean his wish in a literal sense.

And killing yourself to save someone who did nothing but belittle your existence does make up for being a little bit self centered when it comes to being loved. Objectively, he was a better person than her. The right decision would have been to kill her and he didnt even do that. He wasn't even mad at his friend for secretly fucking her for 2 years, he let him walk away unscratched.

Also, how have things gone with your cousin?

You’ve basically abandoned your original point. You started by saying Bear did nothing wrong, but now you’re admitting he was sel centred and did something immoral, your just arguing it was understandable. I agree he’s not evil and his sacrifice shows he cared about Nikki, but a good action later doesn’t erase a bad action earlier. Explaining why someone did something wrong is not the same as proving they did nothing wrong.

Still tryna fuck my cousin

 

[Notorious_1676]

You’ve basically abandoned your original point. You started by saying Bear did nothing wrong, but now you’re admitting he was sel centred and did something immoral, your just arguing it was understandable. I agree he’s not evil and his sacrifice shows he cared about Nikki, but a good action later doesn’t erase a bad action earlier. Explaining why someone did something wrong is not the same as proving they did nothing wrong.

I said I forgot about the scene where he still wanted Nikki to be obsessed with him, that's why I abandoned that point. You said he's like the average org user. Nikki would have been dead had Bear been anything like the average org user

Still tryna fuck my cousin

Do you have any sort of plan or are you just hoping for the best. I remember a couple of years ago on Tik Tok reading about something that you can spray on your crush to make her more likely to fall for you

 

[Big Boss]

I said I forgot about the scene where he still wanted Nikki to be obsessed with him, that's why I abandoned that point. You said he's like the average org user. Nikki would have been dead had Bear been anything like the average org user

So you admit he did wrong? I wasnt serious about the .org user thing, that was a joke

Do you have any sort of plan or are you just hoping for the best. I remember a couple of years ago on Tik Tok reading about something that you can spray on your crush to make her more likely to fall for you

Yo you sound like bear

Nah ill just keep touching her more and more, if i can cuddle and grab her ass without her saying anything then ill escalate