Older women have insane standards

What do you mean HTN equivalents?

A guy 35 - early 40s that people here might claim isnt quite a strong HTN due to a few wrinkles but obviously is in his age range of females.
 
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All of those things shouldn't matter at all during the dating-phase.

Dating isn't supposed to be a series of fucking job interviews. And the women with these standards, make it that way.
Therefore: Entitled narc standards.

I agree with this. I have got to where I just laugh and tell them I am a janitor when they ask those questions when I first start talking to them at a bar.
 
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I agree with this. I have got to where I just laugh and tell them I am a janitor when they ask those questions when I first start talking to them at a bar.
Exactly. It's pathetic tbh.

Most of the time they aren't doing particularly well in the financial department themselves either, but they will still hold these standards.
 
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Exactly. It's pathetic tbh.

Most of the time they aren't doing particularly well in the financial department themselves either, but they will still hold these standards.

Yep it is pathetic sometimes and like you say even the ones buried in debt will act that way. The hangout bar I go to sometimes you see these mid 30s females in there talking to each other about a guy didnt make enough money for them but its mostly just code for he didnt have the looks she wanted. If they do get a guy just for money they are almost always cheating on them.
 
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Wouldn't worry about it they will end up marrying a cuck and drinking wine every evening to cope with their life
 
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When I think of "older women" I think a woman 40 + But it is insane that some of these women in their late 30s expect young college age men to be interested in them. They won't date men their age or older.
 
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1)Guy lived at home.
2)Guy had a dead-end carreer.
3)Guy didn't make enough money.
4)Guy didn't own a house/appartement, but was renting.
5)Guy had no car.
I check 2 and 3. I do have a car and house though. Wish my job wasn’t shitty.
 
There are few chads after 25, so women focus on money more as age goes up
 
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Bro it's normal

At 25 and more, once the foid is in your poached you are the entiere master of the relation

you are the one who fucks her, protect her from the noobs in the street, educate her future kid, who will be with her in hard times

the vision of the 20 yo girl is not the same, the 25 year old girl will expect you to be responsible, athletic with money (and being htn and more is a bonus)

the 20 year old girl will want a gl guy who will make her vibrate in bed

there's no time for them to have fun on tinder anymore after 25-26 years (maternal clock) they start looking for a husband who's not the chad who fucked them on tinder and dumped them after, but the guy who is responsible and who grinds just behind the chads to pass in turn jfl
 
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There are chads past 25 but they go for younger foids.
Chads continue to fuck until they are 40 before landing with a very fresh 30 yo girl
 
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I can't wait to ascend and leave the basement so I can make real life experience report threads on here
 
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Keep grinding, keep hustling!

"just be chad bro" theory only works for 5/10% at best
the others have to grind (money/gym/job/car)
 
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"just be chad bro" theory only works for 5/10% at best
the others have to grind (money/gym/job/car)
Unfortunately, true.

But most people do not know how to use the results of their "grind" and subscribe for OnlyFans while dating a 35-year-old whore lol :lul:
 
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Unfortunately, true.

But most people do not know how to use the results of their "grind" and subscribe for OnlyFans while dating a 35-year-old whore lol :lul:
I understand bro, I understand

BUT, you can still date a low/mid tier whore 30 year old woman :feelsez:

(If u're grindmaxxed)
 
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Different than my area then. Older single MTBs want the HTN equivalents at their age and a MTN male is mostly invisible to them. A few chase money though and might get with a MTN even though they would rather not.
Basically as women get older, it goes from the 80-20 rule to 60-40. As women adjust for losing smv instead of chad/tyrone /chad/tyrone lites they go to HTN these are the guys that were in the 6/10-6.5/10 range in terms of smv, then women complain because these were the men they expected to hurry up and and marry them or be step-fathers in the future, but turns out like with anything more options means less chance men will settle down.
 
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There are chads past 25 but they go for younger foids.
best comment on here its not their so much less attractive men as women age, yes the pool gets smaller. Its more the more attractive a man is in comparison to hes male peers as he gets older, the more mating options he has and the higher probability of younger women taking that man.
a good looking in shape 45 year old who looks like he is 33 years old is not gonna choose a women who is the same age and looks good, he is gonna pick a 27-31 year old who is also in shape and is above avg.
 
Imagine telling the truth. Just fake ur life, job, car, use excuses for everything. Give them hope, tell them that you have insane ambitions and goals, that you are interested in a future and so on.
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just fucking lie, how can you fail this simple shittest. Just go to a hotel or outdoor or just go to her place jfl

you are such a good poster, new forum star

bro, i am talking about love/attraction. not betabuxxing for some roastie that doesnt give a fuck about you.

ofcourse none of those things matter. get fucking real.

this is not cuckmax.org

Its not rocket science go back to her place or get a shitty motel for a 24 hours for 50 bucks and fuck her. folks keep bringing up buta-bux shit. My cousin was living at home a shitty part-time retail job, and had women bringing him back to their place to give him blow jobs and fuck he spent 70 percent of hes time playing pc games. These beta-bux talk is what women say to men they don't sexually desire. WOMEN LOVE DICK from men they sexually desire, they talk to the betas, about jobs, cars and long-term security and saftey and things like i need to get to know you, and we just meet.
 
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Its not rocket science go back to her place or get a shitty motel for a 24 hours for 50 bucks and fuck her. folks keep bringing up buta-bux shit. My cousin was living at home a shitty part-time retail job, and had women bringing him back to their place to give him blow jobs and fuck he spent 70 percent of hes time playing pc games. These beta-bux talk is what women say to men they don't sexually desire. WOMEN LOVE DICK from men they sexually desire, they talk to the betas, about jobs, cars and long-term security and saftey and things like i need to get to know you, and we just meet.
Im too subhuman for 30yo LTBs apparently. Jfl at this world
 
A lot more are ending up old cat ladies now because of their "not settling mentality" but make no mistake they still jump in bed with tall HTNs when they get a chance and then cry about the guys not wanting a LTR with them. A MTN even with some money are invisible to most of these older single females.
been telling folks, these women make rules for the betas, they expect to settle for and break rules for men they sexually desire, they will jump on the dick of a HTN in a second then get upset because he won't LTR, because fucking 5 other women.
 
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This is NEET cope. You're not dropping out. You were sent away by the job and dating market. You're undesirable and you need to be doing whatever you can to keep up.

no i dropped out. beyond idiotic to think i couldn't get a job if i had a woman. i'd strive and work any job to provide for my family.
 
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Was at a company social event yesterday. Lots of drinking, etc. (broke my detox from alcohol, brutal)
Lots of women above 25 were single there (~50%). Was low-key flirting with most of them for fun. But they all gave me clear indicators of no-interest.

They were talking about guys they dated (and quickly rejected) and they all had entitled narc standards like:

1)Guy lived at home.
2)Guy had a dead-end carreer.
3)Guy didn't make enough money.
4)Guy didn't own a house/appartement, but was renting.
5)Guy had no car.

JFL at how you can refuse to date a guy because of shit like this. No wonder they are single.

I hope they all die alone.
Uh 4/5 of those are all reasonable for older women to reject a man their age.. If we are talking 40s? Yeah living at home is def a reason, dead end career makes sense too not insane, making enough money is fine and no car is also a reason to reject someone.

Yeah no 40 year old woman wants to date a jobless loser who lives with his parents lmao
 
Exactly. It's pathetic tbh.

Most of the time they aren't doing particularly well in the financial department themselves either, but they will still hold these standards.
I don’t understand how the average western women has to gall to have standards? Most of them probably gave it up to their dealer or something yet a good man has to go through hoops to even date her.
 
Uh 4/5 of those are all reasonable for older women to reject a man their age.. If we are talking 40s? Yeah living at home is def a reason, dead end career makes sense too not insane, making enough money is fine and no car is also a reason to reject someone.

Yeah no 40 year old woman wants to date a jobless loser who lives with his parents lmao
older woman is 25yo and older

note that this place I work at is a dead-end carreer. So all the women I socialized with there were judging men with the exact same jobs as their own jfl.

I live in the city centre of one of the biggest dutch cities, with the train station 5 minutes away and the airport 15 minutes away. what the fuck do I need a car for?

dumb retarded roasties. bicycle mogs, much healthier.
 
My first thread on this site in 2021 was about how I got rejected for not having my own place by a 7/10 18 y/o jb.
Even good looking women will reject because of money.
Would rather live with my parents who I love and save money than impress some foids, move out and then visit your parents a few times a year and see them age every time. Fuck that
 
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Would rather live with my parents who I love and save money than impress some foids, move out and then visit your parents a few times a year and see them age every time. Fuck that
based af boyo
 
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These women have only a few fertile years left and they will reject a guy for renting :lul::lul:

I brutally mogged all of them and they had 0 interest in me cuz I am a student. JFL at them.
these women want that because they want to leech of the man
never date a women like that
 
2)Guy had a dead-end carreer.
3)Guy didn't make enough money.
4)Guy didn't own a house/appartement, but was renting.
most men fall in this
 
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All of those things shouldn't matter at all during the dating-phase.

Dating isn't supposed to be a series of fucking job interviews. And the women with these standards, make it that way.
Therefore: Entitled narc standards.
This one bitch is grilling me like a job interview it’s annoying


I ask her to meet up with me she says “we hardly know eachother lol tell me about yourslef”

I told her abt me

Birch then goes “tell me your ideal date location”

Like niggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr wtf 🤬 is this shit a fucking job interview

Bitch aired me cos I “didn’t answe the question properly”

For once in my life I actslly got angry went dark triad and told her off here’s the Kicker she was just ok with it and didn’t even bring it up again…. Women love being rough handled by men they are pieces of shit

And yeah she will 100% flake on me she is Whire and that’s what Whire girls do but I have no choice as the onyl girls I get from apps are white so it’s over for me
 
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most men fall in this
Ding ding, and that’s why it’s over for most men

My sister called me yserday and said and I shit you not “most men are wastemen” and I said “most men get no pussy and are invisible to you lot so why do you care?”

She said to me I need to get a car or I’ll be incel forever (she knows im incel)
 
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This one bitch is grilling me like a job interview it’s annoying


I ask her to meet up with me she says “we hardly know eachother lol tell me about yourslef”

I told her abt me

Birch then goes “tell me your ideal date location”

Like niggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr wtf 🤬 is this shit a fucking job interview

Bitch aired me cos I “didn’t answe the question properly”

For once in my life I actslly got angry went dark triad and told her off here’s the Kicker she was just ok with it and didn’t even bring it up again…. Women love being rough handled by men they are pieces of shit

And yeah she will 100% flake on me she is Whire and that’s what Whire girls do but I have no choice as the onyl girls I get from apps are white so it’s over for me
When they do interviews like that I just start making more and more jokes and giving less serious answers. That usually makes them stop and then it ends.

Tbh it's mostly the age of women. With 25+yo women it always comes down to job interviews during the dating phase and I am simply totally uninterested.

Yes you can larp everything and try to fuck her. But I don't care enough about fucking her for some ONS. I'd rather just end it right away.
 
"just be chad bro" theory only works for 5/10% at best
the others have to grind (money/gym/job/car)
I know a lot of men who are into this grinding bullshit and they are all invisible to women. Women can smell that those dudes are doing this for female attention. Grinding is only reasonable if you are at least a mtn.
 
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Was at a company social event yesterday
NEVER do this
get out of your fuckin 9-5 and learn some sort of freelancing skill to work self employed and preferably remote
women and normies are awful

thank me later, you Jesus looking Chad ;)
 
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NEVER do this
get out of your fuckin 9-5 and learn some sort of freelancing skill to work self employed and preferably remote
women and normies are awful

thank me later, you Jesus looking Chad ;)
if theres anything I learned it is that I don't like anyone at that company.

I keep having this idea in my mind how fun it would be to have fun, kind, outgoing, supportive people around you. Whether its school, where you live, your job, etc. But time and time again I am dissapointed.

Most people just suck.

I need to get out of society
 
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yes they do once you're smarter than them and black pilled and theres no escape, im srs
Unironically thought this early 30s roastie at my job liked me somewhat. Since we joked often, and she was somewhat nice to me.

Turns out she just needed a place to sleep for events like this (I live in the city centre, perfect location) and needed me to trade shifts with her a couple of time when it was convenient for her.

Some people at the company event were joking that 'we were a couple' since she was sleeping over. I went along with the joke, but all she did was put this face of disgust and reject it all together.

jfl at this shit tbh. never socialize with human life it is futile.

AI is the future.
@Xangsane is my favourite user on this forum now.
 
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Unironically thought this early 30s roastie at my job liked me somewhat. Since we joked often, and she was somewhat nice to me.

Turns out she just needed a place to sleep for events like this (I live in the city centre, perfect location) and needed me to trade shifts with her a couple of time when it was convenient for her.

Some people at the company event were joking that 'we were a couple' since she was sleeping over. I went along with the joke, but all she did was put this face of disgust and reject it all together.

jfl at this shit tbh. never socialize with human life it is futile.

AI is the future.
@Xangsane is my favourite user on this forum now.
Thanks bhai!
 
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these women want that because they want to leech of the man
never date a women like that

Briffault’s Law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
 
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Ding ding, and that’s why it’s over for most men

My sister called me yserday and said and I shit you not “most men are wastemen” and I said “most men get no pussy and are invisible to you lot so why do you care?”

She said to me I need to get a car or I’ll be incel forever (she knows im incel)
Most women are useless as well it's just that most of them are coddled by men who are trying to have sex with them...
 
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Was at a company social event yesterday. Lots of drinking, etc. (broke my detox from alcohol, brutal)
Lots of women above 25 were single there (~50%). Was low-key flirting with most of them for fun. But they all gave me clear indicators of no-interest.

They were talking about guys they dated (and quickly rejected) and they all had entitled narc standards like:

1)Guy lived at home.
2)Guy had a dead-end carreer.
3)Guy didn't make enough money.
4)Guy didn't own a house/appartement, but was renting.
5)Guy had no car.

JFL at how you can refuse to date a guy because of shit like this. No wonder they are single.

I hope they all die alone.
Arent u 30+? Why are you still a student

Time to grow up and get a job

You expect women to throw themselves at poor autistic guys with no car?
 
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Was at a company social event yesterday. Lots of drinking, etc. (broke my detox from alcohol, brutal)
Lots of women above 25 were single there (~50%). Was low-key flirting with most of them for fun. But they all gave me clear indicators of no-interest.

They were talking about guys they dated (and quickly rejected) and they all had entitled narc standards like:

1)Guy lived at home.
2)Guy had a dead-end carreer.
3)Guy didn't make enough money.
4)Guy didn't own a house/appartement, but was renting.
5)Guy had no car.

JFL at how you can refuse to date a guy because of shit like this. No wonder they are single.

I hope they all die alone.
Lol that's because they come from a time of a lot less technology and a lot more money just available for the average man believe it or not I hear women talk about how most men are very small these days... this is quite true when just even If you look at the type of height velocity that a stereotypical cool guy would have back In the day made him tower above women and It even just plays into the whole 80/20 rule but even further... I would say that social media has allowed a lot of men secure women they would never by making them more self aware of what women actually want. Older women don't understand that even older guys read stuff like looksmaxing and the blackpill and also lurk loooool. they're just not open about it because its seen as weak being frustrated with your amount of romance
 
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