(ONLY HIGH IQ) Does anyone know how the facial proportions gets passed down to the child?

[𝔻𝕠𝕨𝕟𝕨𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕘𝕣𝕠𝕨𝕥𝕙𝕔𝕖𝕝]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

 

[Hollywood]

Well I got long philtrum from mom, so I don't know for sure, but maybe

 

[zerosmv]

its not always the same sometimes it somewhere in-between and sometimes short or long

 

[FueledByStims]

usually takes after one of the parents, or an older family member e.g. a grandma in rare cases

 

[anticel]

long philtrum depends on craniofacial growth, no features of the face are isolated. cranofacial growth is fully dependent on the environment. environment means many things: behavioural patterns for example - they are inherited and passed on for generations causing lots of stress and harm.
looks are determinded by behaviour and not genetics.

 

[FueledByStims]

i tend to see men resemble their mothers more icl

 

[jotunnr]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

You get half of each parents' genome.

Selected at random, the philtrum gene is usually composed of two:

Recessive and dominant gene.

Whether you inherit whichever gene from the parent, they both respectively have their dominant and recessive sides as well.

But what if i get two different philtrum genes from my parents?

This can still happen, but you're gonna end up with only 1 expressing itself, while the other stays unexpressed.

 

[𝔻𝕠𝕨𝕟𝕨𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕘𝕣𝕠𝕨𝕥𝕙𝕔𝕖𝕝]

Well I got long philtrum from mom, so I don't know for sure, but maybe

Yeah that’s what I figured. I only have features from either my dad or my mom.

 

[FueledByStims]

long philtrum depends on craniofacial growth, no features of the face are isolated. cranofacial growth is fully dependent on the environment. environment means many things: behavioural patterns for example - they are inherited and passed on for generations causing lots of stress and harm.
looks are determinded by behaviour and not genetics.

you can still inherit it

 

[anticel]

you can still inherit it

yes this is the point

 

[𝔻𝕠𝕨𝕟𝕨𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕘𝕣𝕠𝕨𝕥𝕙𝕔𝕖𝕝]

long philtrum depends on craniofacial growth, no features of the face are isolated. cranofacial growth is fully dependent on the environment. environment means many things: behavioural patterns for example - they are inherited and passed on for generations causing lots of stress and harm.
looks are determinded by behaviour and not genetics.

How sure are we about this?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

So I'd say that there are genes that influence how gene expression is modulated depending on WHERE the cell is, so if i'm at location x, contribute to developing the mouth, some other people, their cells, for that same location, are instructed to continue building the philtrum.

When you have genetic recombination, you get some unique blend in the initial blueprint, refined by environmental pressures.

You also have X and Y chromosome specific inheritances too, which complicate things and the womb you developed in contributing t how you look based on how the embryo had to adapt in the womb, and if toxins were corrupting gene expression (basically giving the cells a hard time to do their job)

Usually its in the middle, but sex-specific traits may be passed down. For example; Me, my younger brother and my father have projected noses, while the my sister and mother have less projected noses.

I do not think you're going tot get a better answer than this.

 

[jotunnr]

How sure are we about this?

We aren't, he's retarded.

Everything is decided in the womb, epigenetics hardly even play a part.

They all lived the same, dirt poor and malnourished lives.

Whether your genes express themselves or not is hardly dependent on environment, and there's not much you can do to guide craniofacial growth

Harmony is literally 100% luck, its good to be healthy but it doesnt really matter

 

[couragecel]

Everything is decided in the womb, epigenetics

Harmony is literally 100% luck, its good to be healthy but it doesnt really matter

 

[Zeylet]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

genetic, its a mix, one of each or even no fucking philtrum at all

 

[jotunnr]

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And dudes still talk about "environment" lol

Environment never mattered

It's silly to provide anecdotes but it explains why siblings might live completely different lives despite having the same upbringing

 

[iblamemyhabits]

u only inherit features not proportions

 

[couragecel]

And dudes still talk about "environment" lol

Environment never mattered

It's silly to provide anecdotes but it explains why siblings might live completely different lives despite having the same upbringing

Yeah, brutal. By the way, does Ramirez have a long philtrum?

 

[jotunnr]

Yeah, brutal. By the way, does Ramirez have a long philtrum?

Ideal.

 

[James holder]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

Heritable transmition of methylation/acetylation affects gene expression specific proteins related to the proliferation of chondrocytes etc
that would be more balanced i suppose but unless theres some super important epistatic gene regulating philtrum length it shouldnt be shifted disproportionely towards one parent(if you took the average facial proportions kf a hhpothetical 100 offspring)
Sorry this is jumbled im tired asf

 

[couragecel]

Ideal.

sure?

 

[couragecel]

u only inherit features not proportions

Ent de onde vem as proporções

 

[Thief]

long philtrum depends on craniofacial growth, no features of the face are isolated. cranofacial growth is fully dependent on the environment. environment means many things: behavioural patterns for example - they are inherited and passed on for generations causing lots of stress and harm.
looks are determinded by behaviour and not genetics.

As per Weston Price the development of the palate (arguably the foundation of crainofacial developement) is dictated by intrauterine nutrition, you can't seriously call your mothers womb an "environment" you weren't even sentient, stop coping with this it is silly, your skull is essentially done developing before you are a teenager


W Misinformation ig

 

[jotunnr]

View attachment 5367158sure?

Nvm

 

[jotunnr]

Heritable transmition of methylation/acetylation affects gene expression specific proteins related to the proliferation of chondrocytes etc
that would be more balanced i suppose but unless theres some super important epistatic gene regulating philtrum length it shouldnt be shifted disproportionely towards one parent(if you took the average facial proportions kf a hhpothetical 100 offspring)
Sorry this is jumbled im tired asf

Didnt read a single word icl your profile picture takes away from your takes

As per Weston Price the development of the palate (arguably the foundation of crainofacial developement) is dictated by intrauterine nutrition, you can't seriously call your mothers womb an "environment" you weren't even sentient, stop coping with this it is silly, your skull is essentially done developing before you are a teenager


W Misinformation ig

theyll still believe him js cuz hes a 2021cel

 

[iblamemyhabits]

Ent de onde vem as proporções

ambiente, postura e habitos

 

[anticel]

As per Weston Price the development of the palate (arguably the foundation of crainofacial developement) is dictated by intrauterine nutrition, you can't seriously call your mothers womb an "environment" you weren't even sentient, stop coping with this it is silly, your skull is essentially done developing before you are a teenager


W Misinformation ig

& weston a price is only partly correct.

but mothers womb is clearly environment. your mothers health, behaviourisms, etc etc. this is not cope my friend. you are domesticated cattle - your looks, your behaviourisms, everything about you is subhuman.

 

[Thief]

& weston a price is only partly correct.

but mothers womb is clearly environment. your mothers health, behaviourisms, etc etc. this is not cope my friend. you are domesticated cattle - your looks, your behaviourisms, everything about you is subhuman.

I don't exactly understand how you equivocate subhumanity to being obliged to your communal mind, just contradictory, regardless of appearances or genetics if you bear the weight that is the will to be around others however lonesome you are human, of course we're domesticated cattle, how is it you think for a moment a human could be free of said verity?

We are all weak in the end, I was even bothered enough by you retarded statement to ponder about it and share with you a refutation, same case as you to me, rather indifferent, as such unless you are also to allot yourself to title of subhuman (of which you are not, given you aren't some non-sentient downie with a desensitized shrunken brain)

If your intent was to insult me and use this as a case to allude to me lacking a human mind (so as to called me monkey brained, low IQ, etc) then fair enough, if your intent was to adhere the two of us to your equivocation of being a cattle (human) to subhuman, very well then as well, but if this is just some ill-developed hypocritical slander you typed up then I don't know what to say
("fair enough," as I must admit I also often pursue needless belligerence with hateful comments being my vice, and I myself have surely made equally contradictory remarks as well, another mark of a person)

Also just a comment I agree and disagree with the womb being an environment, often times people give such a title to a stratum of life they can personally cast authority over, with that definition I would say it is not an environment, but if you are to say that by genetic lineage that your mothers womb is dictated by nature I could find it in me to agree

^- The latter scenario is definitively close enough to deterministic that I would say it cannot be used as a piece of evidence to attempt to dissolve W.P down to being "partly correct," albeit agreeable as I said I'd have it in me, I'd define this is a psychological rather than biological, as such it falls outside the domain of the Weston A. Price Foundations spectra of inquiry
(Just noting, I believe behavior is majorly genetic and you can only produce a certain degree of artificial, feigned action, I just don't see it being enough to disparage biological research)

 

[Thief]

If I got it all wrong then please indulge me, but your words seemed too black and white to me so I couldn't theorize more than two meanings behind them

^^- The admissions in the post above aren't meant to mean anything to you other than to note I don't see myself as someone above you, I am a hypocritical lying domesticated failure all the same, once more, none of this is meant to be taken as a direct insult, even in the comments above I only speculated about it being slander in it's purest form to make note of it being quite agreeable, as per "fair enough."

 

[iamachud]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

The genes of two parents and their parents mix together (diet and upbringing also effects the gene development) So if a mother has the longest philtrum and the father has a long philtrum too theres about a 95% chance your philtrum is going to be long too. The reason to why its not 100 percent is because of the parents parents(your grandparents) there is a gene table that describes how dna and genes are transferred through parents and their kids and the rare case of taking it from the grandparents have been seen before .

 

[InertiaBoy]

your skull is essentially done developing before you are a teenage

So true, i see little children with basketball zygos, neanderthal brow ridges and massive jaws all of the time

 

[InertiaBoy]

We aren't, he's retarded.

And you are sure about "genetics" being the cause when DNA has never been proven to exist let alone act in the way it does inside a living thing? Lol

If you replace environment with food then its correct

 

[jotunnr]

And you are sure about "genetics" being the cause when DNA has never been proven to exist let alone act in the way it does inside a living thing? Lol

If you replace environment with food then its correct

Nigga what

 

[InertiaBoy]

Nigga what

Which part do i need to dumb down for you to understand

 

[jotunnr]

Which part do i need to dumb down for you to understand

Did you just say DNA has never been proven to exist

 

[InertiaBoy]

Did you just say DNA has never been proven to exist

Do you have an argument besides "H-HOW COULD YOU SAY THAAAAAAT??? BUT ALL MY LIFE I THOUGHT THE OPPOSITE WAS TRUEEE"

 

[jotunnr]

Do you have an argument besides "H-HOW COULD YOU SAY THAAAAAAT??? BUT ALL MY LIFE I THOUGHT THE OPPOSITE WAS TRUEEE"

??? You just claimed that the most researched bodily process doesn't exist and that everything depends on nutrition

What the fuck even is your argument? It's not an argument if i just claim that our brains are actually in our feet and not our heads, it's a baseless retarded assumption that completely goes against centuries of studies

You're not him bro

 

[Bars]

It was over 13 generations ago

 

[m43dd0g567%]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

Google punnet squares should answer ur question. Simply it matters whether the trait is recessive or dominant

 

[MantisMan]

Let’s say one parent has a long philtrum and the other has a short one. Does the child usually end up somewhere in between, or do they tend to inherit one parent’s proportions?

Dnr

 

[Bars]

??? You just claimed that the most researched bodily process doesn't exist and that everything depends on nutrition

What the fuck even is your argument? It's not an argument if i just claim that our brains are actually in our feet and not our heads, it's a baseless retarded assumption that completely goes against centuries of studies

You're not him bro

ok but how do cells decode genes from DNA? what makes them do that in the first place?

 

[jotunnr]

ok but how do cells decode genes from DNA? what makes them do that in the first place?

It's a repetitive process, ribosomes are synthesized in the cytoplasm, DNA is transcripted, translated RNA, and then folded into a protein, in which is basically your genes expressed.

Without this process, you literally wouldn't even exist

 

[𝔻𝕠𝕨𝕟𝕨𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕘𝕣𝕠𝕨𝕥𝕙𝕔𝕖𝕝]

So I'd say that there are genes that influence how gene expression is modulated depending on WHERE the cell is, so if i'm at location x, contribute to developing the mouth, some other people, their cells, for that same location, are instructed to continue building the philtrum.

When you have genetic recombination, you get some unique blend in the initial blueprint, refined by environmental pressures.

You also have X and Y chromosome specific inheritances too, which complicate things and the womb you developed in contributing t how you look based on how the embryo had to adapt in the womb, and if toxins were corrupting gene expression (basically giving the cells a hard time to do their job)

Usually its in the middle, but sex-specific traits may be passed down. For example; Me, my younger brother and my father have projected noses, while the my sister and mother have less projected noses.

I do not think you're going tot get a better answer than this.

Mirin brah fr

 

[InertiaBoy]

??? You just claimed that the most researched bodily process doesn't exist

Correct, and its not "researched" scientifically

and that everything depends on nutrition

Not everything, facial development does though and that determines a big part of your facial proportions

It's not an argument if i just claim that our brains are actually in our feet and not our heads

You can claim that but you can easily dissect an animal and see that a brain is actually inside a skull, there, proven scientifically that a brain is actually in the skull, you cant observe DNA as it is just like that

it's a baseless retarded assumption

No, your genetics bs is though

that completely goes against centuries of studies

You are just appealing to the "consensus" you sound like a redditor

 

[anticel]

And you are sure about "genetics" being the cause when DNA has never been proven to exist let alone act in the way it does inside a living thing? Lol

If you replace environment with food then its correct

high iq. these niggas have no clue how the human body works.

 

[anticel]

I don't exactly understand how you equivocate subhumanity to being obliged to your communal mind, just contradictory, regardless of appearances or genetics if you bear the weight that is the will to be around others however lonesome you are human, of course we're domesticated cattle, how is it you think for a moment a human could be free of said verity?

We are all weak in the end, I was even bothered enough by you retarded statement to ponder about it and share with you a refutation, same case as you to me, rather indifferent, as such unless you are also to allot yourself to title of subhuman (of which you are not, given you aren't some non-sentient downie with a desensitized shrunken brain)

If your intent was to insult me and use this as a case to allude to me lacking a human mind (so as to called me monkey brained, low IQ, etc) then fair enough, if your intent was to adhere the two of us to your equivocation of being a cattle (human) to subhuman, very well then as well, but if this is just some ill-developed hypocritical slander you typed up then I don't know what to say
("fair enough," as I must admit I also often pursue needless belligerence with hateful comments being my vice, and I myself have surely made equally contradictory remarks as well, another mark of a person)

Also just a comment I agree and disagree with the womb being an environment, often times people give such a title to a stratum of life they can personally cast authority over, with that definition I would say it is not an environment, but if you are to say that by genetic lineage that your mothers womb is dictated by nature I could find it in me to agree

^- The latter scenario is definitively close enough to deterministic that I would say it cannot be used as a piece of evidence to attempt to dissolve W.P down to being "partly correct," albeit agreeable as I said I'd have it in me, I'd define this is a psychological rather than biological, as such it falls outside the domain of the Weston A. Price Foundations spectra of inquiry
(Just noting, I believe behavior is majorly genetic and you can only produce a certain degree of artificial, feigned action, I just don't see it being enough to disparage biological research)

yes my intent was to insult you. also you are a nigga for writing this much of a lengthy response.

jokes aside I respect your answer and want to give some insights into my thoughts/knowledge. for once try to look at the human condition without genetics at. the concept of genetics are completely needless to understand the concept of inheritence & quite misleading in my eyes. the greeks & romans had similar understandings of inheritence and such. we can pass qualities and defects to our offspring. I suggest you study the impact of stress on our nervous system and on the human mind and body as a whole. the truth lies here. the healthy european such as described by Tacitus was strong, tall & beautiful. When we were subjugated, used as farmers & such we degenerated as a whole. Behavioural patterns of submission passed down for generations - we are incredibly complex social animals that suffer under opressive systems. This was comon knowledge among the Aristocracies of the past.
Modern science & 'genetic studies' is just another determinist system such as the religions or the cast system in India for example.

There are case studies on pugs for example - breeders reverse their "facial growth" in just a few generations.

The reality is that everything is metaphysical. Genetic differences matter to explain tribes & races - but there is no "gene" for a certain look that gets passed down and thinking it is a lottery is the most low-iq shit ever.

 

[Bars]

It's a repetitive process, ribosomes are synthesized in the cytoplasm, DNA is transcripted, translated RNA, and then folded into a protein, in which is basically your genes expressed.

Without this process, you literally wouldn't even exist

ok but how do cells and all that stuff do all that like who told to do them exactly like this how do they know that you know what I mean?