OPEN DEBATE: Carbs vs Keto

[yue]

Ground rules: no emotional attacks, only straight facts.

I will begin the debate by taking the side of the carbers. Here are 2 facts I want the ketoclan/goatis raw meaters to dispute.

#1. Most of you only use about 1g protein/kg of bodyweight for your body structures. Meaning for an 80kg (176lb) guy, that's just 80 grams, or 320 calories of protein that you'll use.

#2. The excess protein you take in you'll convert into carbohydrates through gluconeogenesis.

 

[halloweed]

@Never Get Up kill

 

[Deleted member 64864]

carbs

 

[MA_ascender]

Just make your body work extra hard for carbs when you can just eat some ready to go theory

 

[halloweed]

How comes no one is debating?

Just make your body work extra hard for carbs when you can just eat some ready to go theory

carbs

 

[baklavamogger34]

Erm... W- Well... I actually lost 30 kilograms on a ketogenic diet! And put on maybe l- like... 40kg of muscles? In 5 months. Anyways, JFL LTN MTN! Carbohydrates causes inflammation due to the common association with gluten, bloating the face, making you look less lean. Carbohyd- Ca- Carbohydrates are poison! I'm telling you, right damn now, right damn here, don't consume those little pesky cancer-causing fellas!

 

[baklavamogger34]

Just make your body work extra hard for carbs when you can just eat some ready to go theory

Just don't eat carbohydrates and your body will automatically burn fat! Extra lean, no extra work. Exercise? I heard extra fries!!! Lolzers, JFL MTN blackpillmaxx HTN Chadlite Type shi Sah

 

[deadstock]

Idk about looks maxxing but carbs fuck me mentally

 

[They_are_all_whores]

Idk about looks maxxing but carbs fuck me mentally

 

[Tenshi]

I've been on a keto like, 8 years ago and I remember that I felt really good, and I was never leaner, might give it a shot again

problem is, carbs are really damn good, but they're pretty much poison.

 

[RapeAllFemales]

Since i follow the keto diet I have debloated immediately is a mogger diet many models do it and they do not lose too much muscle because they eat a lot of protein

The benefits of the keto diet are many: clean skin, more mental energy and concentration, healthy teeth etc...

 

[RapeAllFemales]

also considers that we grew up sucking our mother’s milk not feeding us with carbo since we were babies we were doing the keto diet it's our nature

 

[yue]

also considers that we grew up sucking our mother’s milk not feeding us with carbo since we were babies we were doing the keto diet it's our nature

your moms milk has plenty of carbs

 

[Dastan]

Based on what goal?

 

[Never Get Up]

Since the post was obviously made through my influence, the truth will always prevail. If you eat carbohydrates, you’re retarded.

Ultimate guide regarding carbohydrates, Randle Cycle, calories, weight, and nutritional science | Why humans are obligate hyper carnivores | High IQ

Nutrition science: 1. There are 0 100% controlled, long term studies with humans locked in labs for multiple decades to provide proof on ANY aspect of health and nutrition science. 2. ALL exogenous carbohydrates break down into glucose leading to raised glucose levels which is UNDOUBTEDLY the...

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[IAMNOTANINCEL]

also considers that we grew up sucking our mother’s milk not feeding us with carbo since we were babies we were doing the keto diet it's our nature

nigga, please read what you just typed again with all your attention

 

[Never Get Up]

Just make your body work extra hard for carbs when you can just eat some ready to go theory

Your body isn’t working extra hard through gluconeogenesis. It’s happy to do so. Eating more carbs than required is toxic to the body. Go learn about glycation and the Randle Cycle.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Since the post was obviously made through my influence, the truth will always prevail. If you eat carbohydrates, you’re retarded.

Ultimate guide regarding carbohydrates, Randle Cycle, calories, weight, and nutritional science | Why humans are obligate hyper carnivores | High IQ

Nutrition science: 1. There are 0 100% controlled, long term studies with humans locked in labs for multiple decades to provide proof on ANY aspect of health and nutrition science. 2. ALL exogenous carbohydrates break down into glucose leading to raised glucose levels which is UNDOUBTEDLY the...

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what diet do you eat?

 

[Never Get Up]

what diet do you eat?

It’s not a “diet”. I eat the way our species evolved to do so. Raw carnivore.

 

[Bdot]

@Orc gtfih

 

[ey88]

50-100g of carbs a day is perfect

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

It’s not a “diet”. I eat the way our species evolved to do so. Raw carnivore.

you do know that freshly killed animals are full of carbs right?
we need carbs, we crave them, otherwise all those keto youtubers wouldn't be acting like vegans making meat imitations because they crave meat making keto bread and such

 

[Never Get Up]

50-100g of carbs a day is perfect

For suicide, then yea.

 

[Never Get Up]

you do know that freshly killed animals are full of carbs right?
we need carbs, we crave them, otherwise all those keto youtubers wouldn't be acting like vegans making meat imitations because they crave meat making keto bread and such

You need very minuscule amounts of carbohydrates hence why your body makes its own through the precursors of fat.

Eating exogenous carbohydrates over the limit that is required for human metabolic processes (more than 4g), is extremely toxic to the human body.

Go read my thread about the Randle Cycle and glycation.

 

[ey88]

For suicide, then yea.

In nature humans always ate carbohydrates that consisted of honey, fruit, milk, and glycogen from freshly killed raw meat

Humans are supposed to eat some carbs

 

[Never Get Up]

In nature humans always ate carbohydrates that consisted of honey, fruit, milk, and glycogen from freshly killed raw meat

Humans are supposed to eat some carbs

False. They only ate that when the hunt was unsuccessful and faced the consequences of doing so by becoming fat through the Randle Cycle activation.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

#2. The excess protein you take in you'll convert into carbohydrates through gluconeogenesis.

Shhh you'll upset the retards that dont know basic biology

 

[Never Get Up]

Shhh you'll upset the retards that dont know basic biology

No one is eating excess protein on a 100% raw carnivore “diet”.

I challenge you to overeat on only animal proteins and animal fats. You will fail.

 

[yue]

No one is eating excess protein on a 100% raw carnivore “diet”.

I challenge you to overeat on only animal proteins and animal fats. You will fail.

So the 300g of protein all went into building body structures

 

[Never Get Up]

So the 300g of protein all went into building body structures

No one who is sensible is eating 300g of protein a day

 

[yue]

No one who is sensible is eating 300g of protein a day

what's your macro breakdown

 

[Never Get Up]

2lbs of raw steak

Half a stick of Kerry Gold salted grass fed butter

3 raw eggs

@yue

 

[yue]

2lbs of raw steak

Half a stick of Kerry Gold salted grass fed butter

3 raw eggs

@yue

Pretty low calorie I would think you'd eat more unless you've destroyed your metabolism .

 

[Never Get Up]

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Pretty low calorie I would think you'd eat more unless you've destroyed your metabolism .

Calories are units of heat energy. They can not be eaten. Heat has no mass. Humans consume mass, not energy.

 

[yue]

Calories are units of heat energy. They can not be eaten. Heat has no mass. Humans consume mass, not energy.

I suppose you aren't a believer in e=mc squared then

 

[Never Get Up]

I suppose you aren't a believer in e=mc squared then

 

[yue]

Not watching this phoenician CIA glownigga schizobabble

 

[Never Get Up]

Not watching this phoenician CIA glownigga schizobabble

Then don’t speak on things you have no knowledge in. Make sure before you speak on a topic that you’re unassailable so people like me don’t have to come and correct you.

Your loss

 

[yue]

Then don’t speak on things you have no knowledge in. Make sure before you speak on a topic that you’re unassailable so people like me don’t have to come and correct you.

Your loss

your metabolism is shite, just like every other ketotard

 

[Ragdolled]

JFL At you carb eater. A study from France proved the carbohydrates cause chronic inflammation and reduce testosterone.

“3610 Subjects from 75 different countries were fed 5 grams of carbohydrates” … “Results show that testosterone dropped by on average 326% over the next 2 hours, 5 hours after consumption testosterone was down 187% and only after 20 hours the subjects testosterone recovered to its normal levels.”

“Subjects who ate 10 grams of carbs on top of the original dosing had a 291% higher chance of getting brain cancer, 349% heart disease and 218% higher chance of getting diabetes.

 

[yue]

JFL At you carb eater. A study from France proved the carbohydrates cause chronic inflammation and reduce testosterone.

“3610 Subjects from 75 different countries were fed 5 grams of carbohydrates” … “Results show that testosterone dropped by on average 326% over the next 2 hours, 5 hours after consumption testosterone was down 187% and only after 20 hours the subjects testosterone recovered to its normal levels.”

“Subjects who ate 10 grams of carbs on top of the original dosing had a 291% higher chance of getting brain cancer, 349% heart disease and 218% higher chance of getting diabetes.

Yea well I have a study from Mumbai
"n=517 subjects viewed a post from user Ragdolled, of those 517, 3 jfl repped, 1 ugh repped, and 513 ignored his post"