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[ScienceCel]

this is the exact stack im about to start. im 16 and already decently physiqemaxxed. looking for high iq tips and thoughts on this

 

[ScienceCel]

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this is the exact stack im about to start. im 16 and already decently physiqemaxxed. looking for high iq tips and thoughts on this

also im ordering at home blood work kits to track e2 test and gh levels

 

[.gg/discordtriad]

also im ordering at home blood work kits to track e2 test and gh levels

what would HCG about be for approx. test e 500-750 mg?

 

[.gg/discordtriad]

also im ordering at home blood work kits to track e2 test and gh levels

source?

 

[ScienceCel]

source?

chinese nigga on whatsapp

 

[.gg/discordtriad]

chinese nigga on whatsapp

for bloodwork i mean

 

[Ashikai]

remove hgh, if you arent gonna do 10+ ius then you're just gonna have less than your natural production as a teen and waste money, inj ghk should be replaced by topical ghk, replace amiloride with eplerenone and 5mg cialis and replacing glutathione with nac 1.2g daily would be my recommendations

 

[.gg/discordtriad]

remove hgh, if you arent gonna do 10+ ius then you're just gonna have less than your natural production as a teen and waste money, inj ghk should be replaced by topical ghk, replace amiloride with eplerenone and 5mg cialis and replacing glutathione with nac 1.2g daily would be my recommendations

wouldnt 6-8 iu be optimal without acromaleogy results?

 

[narrator_313]

remove hgh, if you arent gonna do 10+ ius then you're just gonna have less than your natural production as a teen and waste money, inj ghk should be replaced by topical ghk, replace amiloride with eplerenone and 5mg cialis and replacing glutathione with nac 1.2g daily would be my recommendations

Nigga never give recommendations EVER again stopped jerking my 1inch meat just to tell you that a teenager doesn’t produce 10IUs of growth hormone JFL

 

[narrator_313]

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this is the exact stack im about to start. im 16 and already decently physiqemaxxed. looking for high iq tips and thoughts on this

Nice stack might just copy u ngl why test prop and not test e? test prop is shit its just gonna give u fluctuating hormones fucking up ur system just do eod of test e

 

[Ashikai]

Nigga never give recommendations EVER again stopped jerking my 1inch meat just to tell you that a teenager doesn’t produce 10IUs of growth hormone JFL

"Deconvolution estimates of 24-h GH secretion rates exceed 1200 μg/m2 in adolescents" "The amount of GH secreted - as evaluated by deconvolution analysis - was estimated to be about 20 µg/kg per body weight/day before puberty and about twice as high thereafter (76)." i wont do the calculation for this, but its around 7 ius, natural production hovers somewhere around 5-7 ius depending on weight, this equals to 6.25ius to 9 ius of somatropin because somatropin is only 75% bioavailable sub-q, meaning you would have to dose do 25% more of the dosage to match the same naturally produced amount. And stop twisting my words I never said teens produce 10 ius, i said he SHOULD either do 10+ ius of hgh or no exogenous hgh at all because it would be a waste of money.

 

[Ashikai]

wouldnt 6-8 iu be optimal without acromaleogy results?

6-8 ius of exogenous hgh would just replace your natural production not replace it. In US they start treatment at around 4-7 iu per day depending on the pubescent child's weight for growth hormone deficiency, and when the child enters puberty they are able to go up to 0.7mg per kg of bodyweight per week which translates to about 18 iu per day in a 60kg pubescent child, so staying in that upper range shouldn't be much risky, thats why i recommend that either you do nothing with hgh or use the dosages that will actually give you more hgh than you naturally produce

 

[narrator_313]

"Deconvolution estimates of 24-h GH secretion rates exceed 1200 μg/m2 in adolescents" "The amount of GH secreted - as evaluated by deconvolution analysis - was estimated to be about 20 µg/kg per body weight/day before puberty and about twice as high thereafter (76)." i wont do the calculation for this, but its around 7 ius, natural production hovers somewhere around 5-7 ius depending on weight, this equals to 6.25ius to 9 ius of somatropin because somatropin is only 75% bioavailable sub-q, meaning you would have to dose do 25% more of the dosage to match the same naturally produced amount. And stop twisting my words I never said teens produce 10 ius, i said he SHOULD either do 10+ ius of hgh or no exogenous hgh at all because it would be a waste of money.

You failed to take into consideration that hgh only spikes for an hour at most couple times a day. When injecting exogenous gh you will have stable levels of gh for hours on end (4-6 hours) injecting as little as 4IU’s will give you supraphysiological levels of igf-1 also you’re basically having the growth hormone u inject + the gh u produce on ur own. After the body sees the exogenous gh has cleared it will tell the pituitary to keep making more gh

 

[hej1377]

Add dut and ru, replace the anavar with lgd if you dont mind not looking super dry

Tbol if you really feel like you need that dryness

 

[Ashikai]

You failed to take into consideration that hgh only spikes for an hour at most couple times a day. When injecting exogenous gh you will have stable levels of gh for hours on end (4-6 hours) injecting as little as 4IU’s will give you supraphysiological levels of igf-1 also you’re basically having the growth hormone u inject + the gh u produce on ur own. After the body sees the exogenous gh has cleared it will tell the pituitary to keep making more gh

Huh? No, you dont get the growth hormone you have + the one you inject, do you even know that the pituitary stops producing hgh after exogenous administration, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC423324/ and the mean half-life of somatropin in normal males is 1.75 hours (sub-q), so no it doesn't stay elevated with somatropin, we are talking about somatropin. Also 4 iu will not give you supraphysiological igf-1 levels, show me the studies buddy, otherwise I wont bother.

 

[Zagro]

remove hgh, if you arent gonna do 10+ ius then you're just gonna have less than your natural production as a teen and waste money, inj ghk should be replaced by topical ghk, replace amiloride with eplerenone and 5mg cialis and replacing glutathione with nac 1.2g daily would be my recommendations

Hang yourself

 

[Ashikai]

Hang yourself

cheers matey warra argument

 

[Zagro]

cheers matey warra argument

Learn what pulsatile secretion is, how different diuretics work and that taking nac is like taking IGF-1 pills compared to gluthathione also and I’ll think about it

 

[BlueScree]

how close r u to being finished with puberty?

 

[narrator_313]

Huh? No, you dont get the growth hormone you have + the one you inject, do you even know that the pituitary stops producing hgh after exogenous administration, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC423324/ and the mean half-life of somatropin in normal males is 1.75 hours (sub-q), so no it doesn't stay elevated with somatropin, we are talking about somatropin. Also 4 iu will not give you supraphysiological igf-1 levels, show me the studies buddy, otherwise I wont bother.

genuinely JFL at this we are greys bro stop trying to larp high iq half life of somatropin is 2-4 hours: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11505794/ and thats just the HALF-life meaning after injecting 4IUs of hgh 2-4 hours after your still gonna have something equal to 2IUs of somatropin in your system. Better way to put it would be when you inject your gh levels peak after 2-4 hours and then start declining after that for a couple hours until its left your body: After one half life (lets say 3 hours) you will have 50% of the original drug left in your system and this keeps on until it goes to 0, im pretty sure you can do the math. You are confusing suppression and complete shutdown after injecting exogenous hgh your own gh only gets suppressed key word SUPRESSED not a full on shutdown. Heres the study since u love them so much: https://www.researchgate.net/public...nduced_growth_hormone_secretion_in_normal_men The body only supresses its own until the exogenous gh feedback falls and then it starts back up

 

[Ashikai]

genuinely JFL at this we are greys bro stop trying to larp high iq half life of somatropin is 2-4 hours: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11505794/ and thats just the HALF-life meaning after injecting 4IUs of hgh 2-4 hours after your still gonna have something equal to 2IUs of somatropin in your system. Better way to put it would be when you inject your gh levels peak after 2-4 hours and then start declining after that for a couple hours until its left your body: After one half life (lets say 3 hours) you will have 50% of the original drug left in your system and this keeps on until it goes to 0, im pretty sure you can do the math. You are confusing suppression and complete shutdown after injecting exogenous hgh your own gh only gets suppressed key word SUPRESSED not a full on shutdown. Heres the study since u love them so much: https://www.researchgate.net/public...nduced_growth_hormone_secretion_in_normal_men The body only supresses its own until the exogenous gh feedback falls and then it starts back up

Ok so you do agree that the half life is around 2 hours for somatropin. And no I just used the word stopped because i couldn't remember the word suppressed but we also agree on that, no arguments over that. What I do not agree with however is your initial point in your reply, that is, that the exogenous and the suppressed endogenous production together will be able to give you supraphysiological levels of igf-1, theres really no evidence suggesting that the your suppressed endo + exo low dose hgh will be able to give you supra igf-1 and not to mention your hgh production is the highest during night time, which would mean that you would have an even lower serum level if you were to inject during day time because your production is lower and add that alongside the added suppression of exogenous hgh and you would understand why I am against it, you are just wasting money to have the same or maybe slightly higher levels of gh and igf-1 for a shit ton money, at that point i would rather just do ghrps or ghrh analogues