Orthodontic CCW

[conquistador]

I dont understand Ive never seen this shit discussed here.

Tads are miniscrews on the upper jaw that can cause maxillary impaction (on adults) and thus a counterclocwise rotation of the mandible. This is specially useful for people with long faces and gummy smiles. I will let you look at the papers and pages Ive linked and there are many more.

Before:

After:

Cephalometric changes:

Links to papers and reports:

Treatment of vertical maxillary excess without open bite in a skeletal Class II hyperdivergent patient

ABSTRACT. A 20-year-old woman visited the office complaining of a gummy smile and lip protrusion. She was diagnosed with vertical maxillary excess without open bite and skeletal Class II hyperdivergent pattern. She refused the surgical-orthodontic treatment option, although she wanted to correct...

meridian.allenpress.com

http://embracesmile.com/files/publications/jco_2008_skeletal_gummy_smile_correction.pdf

Gummy smile, an often untreated condition | Orthodontic Practice US

Orthodontists should treat gummy smile with innovative therapies.

orthopracticeus.com

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[conquistador]

Best post this forum has ever seen and nobody answers, papito

 

[conquistador]

has someone here tried this?

 

[randomvanish]

it has been talked numerous time dude

 

[randomvanish]

oh, a fucking greycel moment

 

[conquistador]

it has been talked numerous time dude

where can I find the threads? I havent found anyone who has tried it in this forum.

 

[gamowne]

The paper and other literature cites between 2-4 degrees of counterclockwise rotation. Maxillary impaction can easily give 10+ degrees of CCW.

If you've ever consulted with any legit ortho like Ting, Roblee, Yoon, etc. they'll know what this is. At best, it gives a bit of rotation and some forward movement of the mandible. If you're mildly to maybe moderately recessed, this might be good enough. Otherwise just get double jaw surgery.

 

[conquistador]

The paper and other literature cites between 2-4 degrees of counterclockwise rotation. Maxillary impaction can easily give 10+ degrees of CCW.

If you've ever consulted with any legit ortho like Ting, Roblee, Yoon, etc. they'll know what this is. At best, it gives a bit of rotation and some forward movement of the mandible. If you're mildly to maybe moderately recessed, this might be good enough. Otherwise just get double jaw surgery.

I was wondering why I had never seen it talked here. I guess that its because its not "transformative" enough. In any case, do you know of any user who has tried it?

 

[conquistador]

nobody tried this?

 

[Deleted member 6423]

doesn’t this recess maxilla? and can you get this at the same time as mse?

 

[conquistador]

doesn’t this recess maxilla? and can you get this at the same time as mse?

If there are teeth extractions, the alveolar bone is pulled back so there is recession.
But I think there are cases where the maxillar teeth are only moved upwards which shouldn't cause recession.

In any case, I'm still searching info about this. I was hoping someone here knew more