Pagnoni or Ramieri

[xevuxia]

So i want to do jaw and chin implant to get a more robust jaw in the front
I heard that Ramieri implants are more soft is that true ?

 

[it_will_begin]

wdym by soft? he use titanium implants on the gonions but he's more conservative than Pagnoni, i'll consult Ramieri next month for my case tho

 

[flatcheck213]

wdym by soft? he use titanium implants on the gonions but he's more conservative than Pagnoni, i'll consult Ramieri next month for my case tho

I don’t like silicone cuz it hurts

 

[LEFORT17]

I don’t like silicone cuz it hurts

me too bro me too

 

[throwaway5028]

I wonder if everyone who goes to Ramieri has to deal with braces for months on end before going there, I will put on braces just in case

 

[Foreverbrad]

Ramieri

I wonder if everyone who goes to Ramieri has to deal with braces for months on end before going there, I will put on braces just in case

Not everyone has the possibility to be a surgery-first case and even if you are it’s probably not a good idea.

 

[throwaway5028]

Ramieri


Not everyone has the possibility to be a surgery-first case and even if you are it’s probably not a good idea.

but I am recessed

 

[Foreverbrad]

but I am recessed

Me too, braces are part of the punishment

 

[throwaway5028]

Me too, braces are part of the punishment

Well I'll have to put them on I guess, the only bimax surgeon in my country didn't want to move my maxilla at all even though users here told me it should be forwarded 5mm so the only solution is to go to Ramieri

 

[LEFORT17]

Me too, braces are part of the punishment

how long will your decomp. phase be

 

[Evgeniy291]

Well I'll have to put them on I guess, the only bimax surgeon in my country didn't want to move my maxilla at all even though users here told me it should be forwarded 5mm so the only solution is to go to Ramieri

Keep in mind mowing ur maxilla forward will give you chimp lips

 

[LEFORT17]

Keep in mind mowing ur maxilla forward will give you chimp lips

if he knows his sna degree he should know what to get

 

[throwaway5028]

Keep in mind mowing ur maxilla forward will give you chimp lips

That's ok by me tbh

 

[Foreverbrad]

how long will your decomp. phase be

I’m about 7 months in and I am expecting it to last 12 months or so.
I hope to have my surgeries early 2026.

 

[LEFORT17]

I’m about 7 months in and I am expecting it to last 12 months or so.
I hope to have my surgeries early 2026.

trimax right

 

[Foreverbrad]

trimax right

Trimax and infra implants.

 

[SkeetNeet]

Trimax and infra implants.

Hey Brad could you please DM me? I have a couple of questions if you don’t mind. I’d appreciate it.

 

[throwaway5028]

Trimax and infra implants.

Which surgeon? I'm praying Ramieri at least tells me to get braces after not before

 

[muragoat]

Which surgeon? I'm praying Ramieri at least tells me to get braces after not before

if your teeth are straight and ur skeletal class is same as ur bite class yes

 

[mbi876]

I wonder if everyone who goes to Ramieri has to deal with braces for months on end before going there, I will put on braces just in case

Would this be an issue if you have no occlusion og orthodontic issues? I had braces 3 years ago and my bite is fine but facially I am pretty poor develped

 

[monecel]

I don’t like silicone cuz it hurts

PEEK >

 

[Localcat12345]

So i want to do jaw and chin implant to get a more robust jaw in the front
I heard that Ramieri implants are more soft is that true ?

Pagnoni imo but will have consultation in a couple of days

 

[xevuxia]

Pagnoni imo but will have consultation in a couple of days

Can you report back pls

 

[throwaway5028]

Would this be an issue if you have no occlusion og orthodontic issues? I had braces 3 years ago and my bite is fine but facially I am pretty poor develped

If you had braces before you don't need them

 

[bimaxmaxxer]

Another Pagnoni Botch

As the thread title suggests, I developed various issues from Jaw surgery with this doctor. Immediate open bite two week-post op that has gotten worse (severe open bite now and crossbite, less tongue space/ oral volume, gummy smile). Functionally, I cannot chew at all anymore, can barely close...

looksmax.org

 

[lurking truecel]

Another Pagnoni Botch

As the thread title suggests, I developed various issues from Jaw surgery with this doctor. Immediate open bite two week-post op that has gotten worse (severe open bite now and crossbite, less tongue space/ oral volume, gummy smile). Functionally, I cannot chew at all anymore, can barely close...

looksmax.org

Risk it for the biscket

 

[eyebagcel]

pagnoni fell off sadly. he doesn’t give shit about anything anymore

 

[levaloisperret1998]

pagnoni fell off sadly. he doesn’t give shit about anything anymore

How is that ? Im having surgery with literally in 2 weeks

 

[LEFORT17]

How is that ? Im having surgery with literally in 2 weeks

how much is he charging you and where are you from

 

[Localcat12345]

Can you report back pls

Will do boss

 

[eyebagcel]

How is that ? Im having surgery with literally in 2 weeks

i’ve been hearing of more botches lately and him not behaving professionally but you may not have to worry since you’re just getting infras.. those are pretty hard to fuck up

 

[levaloisperret1998]

i’ve been hearing of more botches lately and him not behaving professionally but you may not have to worry since you’re just getting infras.. those are pretty hard to fuck up

Are you sure ? Its saddle infras though and downgraft genioplasty

 

[lurking truecel]

Are you sure ? Its saddle infras though and downgraft genioplasty

You are fine

 

[it_will_begin]

Trimax and infra implants.

with "infra implants" u mean under the eyes (zygos) and upper (browridge), right? Does Ramieri do that or only Pagnoni?

 

[xevuxia]

with "infra implants" u mean under the eyes (zygos) and upper (browridge), right? Does Ramieri do that or only Pagnoni?

Ramieri does malar implants but no brow implant if ik right

 

[it_will_begin]

Ramieri does malar implants but no brow implant if ik right

U're right. But brow implants are really worth the risk/price/external scarring? If I have some UUE can I camouflage it with fat grafting? Like @WrathOfOlives did

 

[xevuxia]

U're right. But brow implants are really worth the risk/price/external scarring? If I have some UUE can I camouflage it with fat grafting? Like @WrathOfOlives did

Idk man i only can give advice in the jaw area

 

[kingofkings]

I consulted with Ramieri 3 years ago and back then he told me he's done about 30-ish jaw implants in his career. I also saw the results of someone here Gaia or something and I personally felt like his results (respectfully) were underwhelming in terms of frontal view.

But now I've been seeing Ramieri doing a new approach with his jaw implants and the results look much better

 

[tweaqo]

I consulted with Ramieri 3 years ago and back then he told me he's done about 30-ish jaw implants in his career. I also saw the results of someone here Gaia or something and I personally felt like his results (respectfully) were underwhelming in terms of frontal view.

But now I've been seeing Ramieri doing a new approach with his jaw implants and the results look much better

Are you referring to his IMPLATE technique?

I saw a recent podcast featuring Ramieri and he actually seems like a really nice guy, and takes his surgery as if it’s art and is always trying to improve every procedure he does.

He also has more minimally invasive orthognathic surgical methods, hence why many of his patients recover a lot quicker than other surgeons patients.

 

[chrishell]

I consulted with Ramieri 3 years ago and back then he told me he's done about 30-ish jaw implants in his career. I also saw the results of someone here Gaia or something and I personally felt like his results (respectfully) were underwhelming in terms of frontal view.

But now I've been seeing Ramieri doing a new approach with his jaw implants and the results look much better

What about malar implants