Party locations are the worst places to slay

extroversion, social dominance and ruthless escalation is everything when it comes to slaying irl
thats probably why I suck-

I about average in terms of extroversion-introversion but I lack social dominance especially in big group scenarios

Other PSLers I met irl said im timid
 
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I have to admit I dont really care much for chatting to strangers myself so Im guilty of perpetuating this myself. Ill sit around with my mates all night drinking, laughing and chatting about random shit, but if a stranger tried to talk to me (unless they are an attractive girl I want to bang)- im just not really interested in anything they have to say quite frankly. But on my side its not related to any kind of fear of stranger danger, more just disinterest- unless I have some sort of common ground with that person which we can begin to form a relationship over I just dont really see what value I get from interacting with them?
I know exactly what you mean. I'm like that too. When I first got into cold approach and was annoyed at how unfriendly everyone was, I had the realisation that I was too! It happened when i was on my lunch break sitting in the park on one of the tables. Some foreign dude who was travelling (french i think?) asked if he could sit with me. I was like 'Dude, there's like 5 other tables' and was a bit rude. I then realised that I was doing what all the people i'd been angry at were doing lol. So I called him over and had a stilted chat and eventually left. And it happens on nights out just as you've desrcibed. I'm chatting to my mates and some random comes over and seems to want to get involved, and we all just slowly turn our backs to him and fade him out. Even if the dude is completely normal and stuff. It wakes you up though as to what happens on so many cold approaches. It's just how we are. I've always said for my cold approach, i'm looking for unicorns. A unicorn being not only a young, hot girl who thinks my ugly ass is handsome enough to fuck, but also a girl who is unusually socialble with strangers! Luckily i've found some in my time
 
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If you dont have a social circle OLD is the only way for 99% of men
But how is a social circle going to help Tom get laid?

If Tom never got pussy, never had a single interaction with a woman, was a loser before
he found a S.O.

What’s going to make women automatically want to get with him?

Is having a social circle that strong that it overrides everything? Help me understand the S.O. game in the UK
 
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But how is a social circle going to help Tom get laid?

If Tom never got pussy, never had a single interaction with a woman, was a loser before
he found a S.O.

What’s going to make women automatically want to get with him?

Is having a social circle that strong that it overrides everything? Help me understand the S.O. game in the UK
Social circle is just for access

It's all about access

Even if you're Chad, you need access to hot girls. Girls here are not open to strangers, all you need is something to go off. Literally anything

you can match her online, she can be in your class, she can be in your gym. You need something. She has to have seen you before somewhere. Getting sex from complete strangers is so fucking hard here

Read this whole thread

 
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Also @tyronelite social circle and access to girls doesn't guarantee you anything here

It's just the bare minimum regardless of your looks level. However Chads and chadlites can slay online so they dont need it, but normies most certainly do or they wont get shit

90% of normie males I know irl are literally incel. They have sex once every 3 years or something

I used to get girls cold approaching me in the middle of the club and showing me that they had matched me on Tinder. From then on it was easy game. Those same girls wouldn't have spit in my direction had I not matched them prior
 
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But how is a social circle going to help Tom get laid?

If Tom never got pussy, never had a single interaction with a woman, was a loser before
he found a S.O.

What’s going to make women automatically want to get with him?

Is having a social circle that strong that it overrides everything? Help me understand the S.O. game in the UK
It goes back to the point I was making earlier

If a girl is a normie, she probbaly has a social cirlce filled with normie guys.

If she is gonna go outside that social circle for sex she will only do so to get a guy much much bettter than what she can get from within her own cirlce.

Lets say youre a 4.5 PSL decent looking guy tryna pull a 4.0 PSL MTB, well youre seeing the guys shes hanging out with and in your head youre like yeah I mog them cos theyre around her looks level 4.0 PSL. But in reality thats not enough of a mog to get a girl to break her social circle loyalty. In her mind, fucking a guy outside her social circle is like a risk- he could turn out to be a non NT loser weirdo, she doesnt wanna risk that for a measly 0.5 PSL higher than what she can get with a better gurantee of commitment and security.

Now if youre like 5.0 PSL and mogging the guys in her circle by a full point thats when ypur chances are starting to look a little better as its enough of a mog for her to take that risk
 
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yeah best places to slay are low class locations like benidorm or maga
or non party cities like u said
 
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@tyronelite social circle and access to girls doesn't guarantee you anything here
Ok Im starting to understand. So it’s like a prerequisite to begin the interaction
 
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In her mind, fucking a guy outside her social circle is like a risk- he could turn out to be a non NT loser weirdo, she doesnt wanna risk that for a measly 0.5 PSL higher than what she can get with a better gurantee of commitment and security.
Damn this is fascinating shit lol

But I’m talking about slaying, not having a long term relationship

What does it take for her to step out of her social circle & approach the random guy with no social circle?
 
What I noticed about clubbing in Ireland is that girls will give sex to the highest bidder aka just be Chad enough
It seems from what I hear about UK that Chads are borderline incel now on nights out because they are only demonstrating the L part of LMS, girls want instagram Chads since they can demonstrate MS
In Belgium it strikes me that Looksmaxing is futile because the girls are so closed off that if you're cold approaching them then the lookslevel you need for them to consider you is probably statistically irrelevant (if you are an outsider aka not belgian born)
I did 3 daytime approaches yesterday and got straight no's when I asked for their numbers
3 approaches is nothing mate. Literally nothing. Some days I'll go out and do 10 approaches and get zero numbers. Other days I'll go out and get 6 numbers from 6 approaches. Cold approach is inherently random and you can't be so thin skinned about it.

approach 100 girls and assess your performance based on that larger data set (how many numbers / dates / lays)
 
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3 approaches is nothing mate. Literally nothing. Some days I'll go out and do 10 approaches and get zero numbers. Other days I'll go out and get 6 numbers from 6 approaches. Cold approach is inherently random and you can't be so thin skinned about it.

approach 100 girls and assess your performance based on that larger data set (how many numbers / dates / lays)
legit.

I used to do about 20-30 approaches per night.

I wish I wasn't such a pussy at the moment but the mixture of covid (being out of the game for so SO long as UK was completely fucked for years lol) and getting laid a bit with a girl i met after covid happened. meant that my cold approaching took a serious hit, and now, despite having made thousands of approaches in my life, I feel like a complete beginner and am shitting myself when i see a hot girl who i go say hi too lol

I know the odds are super low of course (not just due to looks but as discussed in this thread, the culture) but to me personally that's no excuse not to try. I've gotten some amazing results with cold approach in my life, despite having like 95% rejections haha, I think it was worth it

Think i need to discover an amazing low inhibition drug to kick start me! Although tbh, i've done a lot of personal research on that too and am yet to find anything that beast plain old alcohol!
 
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legit.

I used to do about 20-30 approaches per night.

I wish I wasn't such a pussy at the moment but the mixture of covid (being out of the game for so SO long as UK was completely fucked for years lol) and getting laid a bit with a girl i met after covid happened. meant that my cold approaching took a serious hit, and now, despite having made thousands of approaches in my life, I feel like a complete beginner and am shitting myself when i see a hot girl who i go say hi too lol

I know the odds are super low of course (not just due to looks but as discussed in this thread, the culture) but to me personally that's no excuse not to try. I've gotten some amazing results with cold approach in my life, despite having like 95% rejections haha, I think it was worth it

Think i need to discover an amazing low inhibition drug to kick start me! Although tbh, i've done a lot of personal research on that too and am yet to find anything that beast plain old alcohol!
denzel washington GIF
 
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This is why my surgery will be a giga cope

Dropping 20k across multiple surgerys and years of ortho work just to still be invisible afterwards
Raging that I didn't go on lads holiday in 2013 before the sexual marketplace plummeted into utter hell

When I went out during the week the two English guys we were talking to were top 10% facially and they didn't manage to pull
Nightlife game is absolutely dead and buried
Slaying from nightclubs was a myth created so that normies blow all of their wages on the weekend to stimulate the economy and keep themselves poor

Obviously it's possible to get some slays from clubbing (pre scamdemic anyway) but it is never with the quality of girls or frequency that you can be content with
damn really????

it's that bad????
 
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@forevergymcelling You are the goat of the forum. Your threads are unrivalled. As soon as I see u posted a thread I know it’s going to be good before even reading. I was born and raised in the UK and get nothing. It’s over for me. I also have no social circle. I’m 23. Completely over. Everyday is the same. Wageslaving and going home lonely. That’s life.
 
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@forevergymcelling You are the goat of the forum. Your threads are unrivalled. As soon as I see u posted a thread I know it’s going to be good before even reading. I was born and raised in the UK and get nothing. It’s over for me. I also have no social circle. I’m 23. Completely over. Everyday is the same. Wageslaving and going home lonely. That’s life.

Why don’t you save your money & move?
 
Why don’t you save your money & move?
Trying to but it’s complicated. Would need a work visa, would need to find a place to live that’s not a hotel, would need to make connections so I don’t get punked. Currently wageslaving to pay off my 5k loan that I stupidly took out. And my car is having problems so I have to pay my mechanic probably 1k after it’s fixed so it passes MOT.
 
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I’ve always been a massive proponent of 00s theory man.

It was giga easy back then compared to now

It’s like a vicous cycle - hypergamy increases due to dating apps dna social media and more men get horny and desperate.

There’s newly incel MTN-HTNs start getting desperate and aggressively looksmaxxing, approaching etc - they lower their own standards to try and get pussy which in turn raises hypergamy even more and the cycle repeats and every year it just gets worse and worse
If hypergamy is THAT bad then why arent there more normies who agree with the blackpill? every normie is in complete denial they must still get pussy sometimes
 
I banged this girl through a shitty temping job.
I'm sure she'd have rejected my ass hard if I cold approached her lol
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I do think in the UK, you are playing on mega hard mode if you are relying on banging girls who have no idea who you are. I have been doing this almost exclusively for years. I have teh war wounds. If you are not chad, and i'm FAR from chad, it's hard as fuck

ps - @DoctorLooksmax we seem to agree on everything lol. We also sound like we're interested in the same surgeries. I might have to share my pics as an oldcel as some point with you in DM for your thoughts. I don't ever tend to do that but we're on the same wavelength i feel
I can share mine if you like- got some surgery morphs as well

My surgery is in Ocotber
 
If hypergamy is THAT bad then why arent there more normies who agree with the blackpill? every normie is in complete denial they must still get pussy sometimes
They are just in denial, I knew people that were 25 and virgin and still was bluepilled and refused to accept they are incel
 
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If she is gonna go outside that social circle for sex she will only do so to get a guy much much bettter than what she can get from within her own cirlce.
you need access to a lot of different new social circles, hooking up within an already established social circle is rare from my experience. It's either within the first few times of going out or the spark/initial interest will die, as girls will see you just as another friend, rather than a potential sexual partner.

that's why @wristcel 's meetup app sounds so smart. you get introduced to partially already established circles, where the initial sexual attraction between the guys and girls already died out, leaving you, as the new Cock in the ring, relatively more attractive in comparison. No matter how much or little you mog the rest.

I've taken hot girls from guys 2 PSL above me, that tried to get with them but the girls didn't see them as a potential sexual partner as they already knew each other for so long. So the twink normie (me) slept with the hot girl within the first 2 times of going out with that group of friends.
 
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I know exactly what you mean. I'm like that too. When I first got into cold approach and was annoyed at how unfriendly everyone was, I had the realisation that I was too! It happened when i was on my lunch break sitting in the park on one of the tables. Some foreign dude who was travelling (french i think?) asked if he could sit with me. I was like 'Dude, there's like 5 other tables' and was a bit rude. I then realised that I was doing what all the people i'd been angry at were doing lol. So I called him over and had a stilted chat and eventually left. And it happens on nights out just as you've desrcibed. I'm chatting to my mates and some random comes over and seems to want to get involved, and we all just slowly turn our backs to him and fade him out. Even if the dude is completely normal and stuff. It wakes you up though as to what happens on so many cold approaches. It's just how we are. I've always said for my cold approach, i'm looking for unicorns. A unicorn being not only a young, hot girl who thinks my ugly ass is handsome enough to fuck, but also a girl who is unusually socialble with strangers! Luckily i've found some in my time
how old are you? just curious if there is hope for some of us or if 40% of the forum is going to kill themselves in the next 3 years
 
legit.

I used to do about 20-30 approaches per night.

I wish I wasn't such a pussy at the moment but the mixture of covid (being out of the game for so SO long as UK was completely fucked for years lol) and getting laid a bit with a girl i met after covid happened. meant that my cold approaching took a serious hit, and now, despite having made thousands of approaches in my life, I feel like a complete beginner and am shitting myself when i see a hot girl who i go say hi too lol

I know the odds are super low of course (not just due to looks but as discussed in this thread, the culture) but to me personally that's no excuse not to try. I've gotten some amazing results with cold approach in my life, despite having like 95% rejections haha, I think it was worth it

Think i need to discover an amazing low inhibition drug to kick start me! Although tbh, i've done a lot of personal research on that too and am yet to find anything that beast plain old alcohol!
I know two 38 year old guys who still bang prime teens from daygame
Surgery won’t help if your inner self isn’t in check
Yes it will... if surgery improves your aesthetic then your inner sense of self will improve as well as you will feel more secure and confident
 
Another excellent thread as always, social circle counts a lot more than we think it does, looks is still the main factor, but social circle, location and luck play immensely huge roles as well.
 
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What I noticed about clubbing in Ireland is that girls will give sex to the highest bidder aka just be Chad enough
It seems from what I hear about UK that Chads are borderline incel now on nights out because they are only demonstrating the L part of LMS, girls want instagram Chads since they can demonstrate MS
In Belgium it strikes me that Looksmaxing is futile because the girls are so closed off that if you're cold approaching them then the lookslevel you need for them to consider you is probably statistically irrelevant (if you are an outsider aka not belgian born)
I did 3 daytime approaches yesterday and got straight no's when I asked for their numbers
i think the uk is being programmed and brainwashed to never breed, terrible terrible place. basically a commie zone. imagine trying to slay in ukraine, impossible.
 
Yes it will... if surgery improves your aesthetic then your inner sense of self will improve as well as you will feel more secure and confident
if you’re 18 years old and you’re a virgin who’s never interacted with a chick surgery won’t do shit cuz you’re still gonna be the same loser who doesn’t know how to interact with chicks

Now if you’re actively talking to chicks & simultaneously getting surgery then yes it will help.. but how many users here are doing that ?
 
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if you’re 18 years old and you’re a virgin who’s never interacted with a chick surgery won’t do shit cuz you’re still gonna be the same loser who doesn’t know how to interact with chicks

Now if you’re actively talking to chicks & simultaneously getting surgery then yes it will help.. but how many users here are doing that ?
I had surgery to improve my self image, and it succeeded in reducing my self-consciousness as my flaw was significant. If it's effective it will always help, regardless of women
 
I had surgery to improve my self image, and it succeeded in reducing my self-consciousness as my flaw was significant. If it's effective it will always help, regardless of women
Yeah obviously your self image, esteem, & confidence will improve

My point was most users who get surgery think it's a cheat code to all their women problems & it's not
 
Yeah obviously your self image, esteem, & confidence will improve

My point was most users who get surgery think it's a cheat code to all their women problems & it's not
very true bro

But it’s hard for me to put myself out there a lot right now when I know if I look better after surgery it’ll be so much easier - but I need to max both simultaneously
 
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Just got back from the Algarve

  • Guys outnumber girls by at least 8:1, this is no exaggeration. I've never seen such a cock fest in my life
  • It's impossible to pull on the strip, every girl is getting harassed and hounded constantly. A girl cannot walk down for more than 5 seconds without being approached by some low inhb lads. We walked behind some Dutch girls and they didn't make it up the hill without being approached by three different groups
  • The girls are utter cunts who don't even want to entertain a conversation with any guy

On the second night out I mogged every single guy on the entire strip, it made no difference. I got cold approached once in one of the bars but that was it.

Inside the bars there are usually one or two groups of girls and about 5-6 groups of guys. The girls will be dancing by themselves while every guy in there is loitering around the group right behind them. If a girl were to turn around there would be 4 layers of males within the circle surrounding them if that makes sense jfl

In order to pull in this environment, you need to meet the girls at the hotel or match them online. My friend who I was with slayed because he matched a girl on bumble, we saw that same girl out and she didn't even acknowledge any guy in the vicinity.

Building rapport with girls at your hotel is pretty much the only guaranteed way of slaying outside of OLD. Logistics are very important too


Lmao at this

We saw two girls walking towards us, they were by themselves. They quickly turned to use the punch bag machine. I shit you not, before the girl even had a chance to put the coin inside the machine, 7 random guys ran over from the other side of the street to jestermaxx for these two whores. Unbelievable

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The girls barely even go inside the bars after about 2am because the amount of cock inside them is too much. It's guaranteed that they will be relentlessly approached and groped by low inhb normies

Most girls just hang around on the fucking road jfl

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This is why college is so mogger. The girls outnumber the guys and if you're a top percentile man you'll have endless options.
 
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Yeah obviously your self image, esteem, & confidence will improve

My point was most users who get surgery think it's a cheat code to all their women problems & it's not
Ok fair enough. It's quite a complex topic tbh. I still think higher self esteem will almost always translate to more success with women though. The higher your self esteem the more risks you'll be likely to take, the more you'll escalate with girls, etc. there's literally no downside to having higher self esteem
 
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This is why college is so mogger. The girls outnumber the guys and if you're a top percentile man you'll have endless options.
If you’re top percentile the rules don’t apply to you- you can slay basically anywhere
 
The rules still apply they're just less strict.
While that statement isn’t untrue it’s quite a gross understatement. The rules are drastically less strict to the extent you may as well be playing a different gsme

The people who should worry the most about location, NT, social circle, environment, approaching etc are those anywhere from 50th-95th percentile

Anyone below 50th percentile is basically fucked no matter what and chads may as well just relax do anti aging and enjoy life
 
very true bro

But it’s hard for me to put myself out there a lot right now when I know if I look better after surgery it’ll be so much easier - but I need to max both simultaneously
Ok fair enough. It's quite a complex topic tbh. I still think higher self esteem will almost always translate to more success with women though. The higher your self esteem the more risks you'll be likely to take, the more you'll escalate with girls, etc. there's literally no downside to having higher self esteem

Just look at guys like Amnesia (no offense to him just example) who went from normie to chad

Dude was basically incel for years after break up with girlfriend and racked up his lay count to 200+

Yet he still asks elementary questions & gets disrespected by some bitches he match with (old tinder threads)

He’s what I consider an OUTLIER who softmaxxed / hardmaxxed thru surgery & slayed without much inner work

The majority of users here will never have that happen to them solely on surgery & being sexless for years
 
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Why are 90% of your threads about club hypergamy then
It was all I cared about from ages 16-22

I like keeping up with dating dynamics and how they’ve changed over the years
 
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It was all I cared about from ages 16-22

I like keeping up with dating dynamics and how they’ve changed over the years
I get the feeling that your self esteem is directly proportional to the level of hypergamy in the UK
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why did police made an arrest warrant for you if u never approached like the delusional retard you are bro

His "oneitis" or some narcy n sassy paranoid girl made a false accusation on him that he was "stalking her" or something like that

Basically some narcy n sassy mean girl makes false accusations n police believed her so he got shit for it

Why did she do it cause women are bitches thats why
 
His "oneitis" or some narcy n sassy paranoid girl made a false accusation on him that he was "stalking her" or something like that

Basically some narcy n sassy mean girl makes false accusations n police believed her so he got shit for it

Why did she do it cause women are bitches thats why
were you there when it happened?
 
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were you there when it happened?

No but I just assume it was false accusations because women doing false accusations against innocent men has become very common in the west 2021. We live in a very anti-male society and western women are both narcissistic n paranoid

By "paranoid" I mean how a lot of narcy n sassy women believes that every man is into them even while thats not true.
 
No but I just assume it was false accusations because women doing false accusations against innocent men has become very common in the west 2021. We live in a very anti-male society and western women are both narcissistic n paranoid

By "paranoid" I mean how a lot of narcy n sassy women believes that every man is into them even while thats not true.
is this jaani
 
holy fucking Kek OP, you were close to me, I live in the south and I know these places, needless to say, I don't even dream of approaching women here, if it's already fucked for a guy like you...
 
imagine leaving your room lmao
 
That being said

I did see some clean cut Chads who mogged me into oblivion, but only during the day

I saw a 6'5 MM tier Zach Cox lookalike
Also saw a Stephen James doppelganger, even had the physique and covered in tatts too
Was the zach cox lookalike at least getting looks from women?

This sounds so brutal even though I knew these destinations are like this.
 
Was the zach cox lookalike at least getting looks from women?

This sounds so brutal even though I knew these destinations are like this.
I only saw him for about 10 seconds. I was sitting at a restaurant and he was walking down the strip with his friend
 
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the world really has changed a lot when it comes to this sort of thing. Maybe you need to be oldcel like me to really appreciate teh difference.
But you're right. Back in 2001 me and my friends and everyone was able to get laid easier in magaluf and kos and stuff. Girls didn't all have this 'aura' of being a celebrity who wouldn't entertain talking to you etc. It just felt different. Nowadays, all hot girls think they're kylie jenner and it's infinitely harder to pull in that sort of environment

ps - random but my new source of getting laid is 'meetup'!! lol

meetup for hooking up? what's your technique?
 

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