Peak natural physique for the average male is good

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Many blackpiller’s here say it looks bad but it’s all male gaze cope. Natural peak physique’s for average male look’s good after 4-5 year’s of solid consistent training with high value nutritious diet.

if you are more patient and put more hard work in and do it for 7+ year’s you can look full while being lean too

its all hard work dont cheat your genetics


and if you have good genes/good base then expect good result’s after 2-3 years then

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Agree

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

7+ year’s

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

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Depend’s when you started. If you started past 20 then it’s quite over but if you started 17-18 then it’s fine

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

Depend’s when you started. If you started past 20 then it’s quite over but if you started 17-18 then it’s fine

7 Years of autism, recording lifts, counting macros mogged by 1 year of peds and watching netflix. It's the just a terrible value proposition

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

7 Years of autism, recording lifts, counting macros mogged by 1 year of peds and watching netflix. It's the just a terrible value proposition

You realise theres side effects to using steroids or PED’s your just so retarded….

like honestly there is no cheap shortcut to life that will long term benefit you

genetics are genetics dont replicate something when you were subhuman/ low genetic quality in the first place

plus 7 years is from the average male

any male above average can achieve a good physique to females in less then 5 years

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

like honestly there is no cheap shortcut to life that will long term benefit you

Exactly. No bandaid for being born a framecel with female fat deposits. Natty lifting is cope. It can make the 7-inch wristcel look good at 10% bodyfat but still a wristcel in a shirt.

 

[RecessedChinCel]

You realise theres side effects to using steroids or PED’s your just so retarded….

like honestly there is no cheap shortcut to life that will long term benefit you

genetics are genetics dont replicate something when you were subhuman/ low genetic quality in the first place

plus 7 years is from the average male

any male above average can achieve a good physique to females in less then 5 years

Cope and fear mongering. Running a test cycle is only dangerous if you’re low IQ.

 

[VenomGT3]

Seven years of working out is nothing compared to this

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Cope and fear mongering. Running a test cycle is only dangerous if you’re low IQ.

Running any cycle is dangerous…. If you cope with thinking you wont get bad shit from it then fine do what you please

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Running any cycle is dangerous…. If you cope with thinking you wont get bad shit from it then fine do what you please

Lmfao at this cope.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Lmfao at this cope.

Your IQ levels must be top tier autism levels sir

 

[Deleted member 18522]

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Peak natural takes about 3-4 years give or take but most people will take longer and waste time and end up getting ugly in the meantime bulking meme'ing

you get 80% of your total lifetime gains in 18 months if you're training correctly.

Even people who are autistic about training and doing everything right like Alpha Destiny gain 2lbs of lean mass over 4 years

 

[Deleted member 24278]

Cristiano Ronaldo is peak physique for natural and men with average genetics for building muscle

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Your IQ levels must be top tier autism levels sir

The irony. Muh steroids always have side effects. My nigga is coping with his shitty natty physique. Don’t even need to blast and cruise you can run 1 or 2 cycles and if you do proper PCT your HTPA will recover and you will retain decent amounts of the gains as long as you maintain your diet.

Again it isn’t my problems that you are too low IQ to run a test cycle.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

The irony. Muh steroids always have side effects. My nigga is coping with his shitty natty physique. Don’t even need to blast and cruise you can run 1 or 2 cycles and if you do proper PCT your HTPA will recover and you will retain decent amounts of the gains as long as you maintain your diet.

Again it isn’t my problems that you are too low IQ to run a test cycle.

You are coping… once you go on cycle you never go back to cycle….. once a roid user always a roid user

you speak like youve done it before…. If you havent you dont have any rights to talk about steroid use and abuse….

 

[EnjoyerOf Water]

MK-677, and nutrition (verified by a nutritionist who has done tests), in 2 years you should already look very good. The good thing about MK-677 is that it gives considerable gains in volume, and does not need post cycle therapy. MK+677 will help you get closer to your genetic limit faster without "consequences" like sarms and steroids have, however being a medication it is not always used either.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

7 Years of autism, recording lifts, counting macros mogged by 1 year of peds and watching netflix. It's the just a terrible value proposition

Less than one year. 6 months of juicing you will mog a natty with 10 years under his belt.

 

[Deleted member 18522]

Less than one year. 6 months of juicing you will mog a natty with 10 years under his belt.

Not really true unless you’re taking so much shit it is literally killing you

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Less than one year. 6 months of juicing you will mog a natty with 10 years under his belt.

Check out my phyisuqe in rating section

 

[Clown Show]

If you have frame and genetics that is.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

If you have frame and genetics that is.

i have good frame and athletic genes i was just cursed being short

 

[Deleted member 25667]

muh just slave away at the gym for 20 years and then you'll look like someone who's ran two roid cycles

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

muh just slave away at the gym for 20 years and then you'll look like someone who's ran two roid cycles

doesng matter anymore girls dont care about ur physique roided or not

 

[Deleted member 25667]

doesng matter anymore girls dont care about ur physique roided or not

read this thread, pretty boy face + slayer roided physique and youre set

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but sure, keep coping with natty lifting and chicken/rice for 34 years

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

read this thread, pretty boy face + slayer roided physique and youre set

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but sure, keep coping with natty lifting and chicken/rice for 34 years

how do u have prettyboy face and roided physique at same time ? lol

 

[Deleted member 25667]

how do u have prettyboy face and roided physique at same time ? lol

roids won't change the entire bone structure of your skull, if youre already htn+ and not ogre, a few non retarded roid cycles will ascend you hard

my point is, women see bodies/physiques in a very very similar way that we men do
you know that feeling you get when you see a foid with big milky breasts and a curvy ass, well thats the same for women when they see a broad shouldered, massive chest, big 18 inch arms guy

its a smv multiplier for your face essentially

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

roids won't change the entire bone structure of your skull, if youre already htn+ and not ogre, a few non retarded roid cycles will ascend you hard

my point is, women see bodies/physiques in a very very similar way that we men do
you know that feeling you get when you see a foid with big milky breasts and a curvy ass, well thats the same for women when they see a broad shouldered, massive chest, big 18 inch arms guy

its a smv multiplier for your face essentially

still tho if u take safe amounts of roids wont u go shit mode long term

 

[Deleted member 21628]

"i pity the men that dont get to see the full beauty and capacity of their bodies in their lifetime"

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

roids won't change the entire bone structure of your skull, if youre already htn+ and not ogre, a few non retarded roid cycles will ascend you hard

my point is, women see bodies/physiques in a very very similar way that we men do
you know that feeling you get when you see a foid with big milky breasts and a curvy ass, well thats the same for women when they see a broad shouldered, massive chest, big 18 inch arms guy

its a smv multiplier for your face essentially

i dont rlly like those curvy big assed ones tho i like those victorian secret model girls with nice legs and ratios

 

[Blackgymmax]

Lol keep coping. The only guy who actually pulled this off has a chad face and thats @JOJOcel and we arent gl like him

 

[Orc]

most people are too incompetent to pick up heavy objects and put them back down repeatedly and fail by over-complicating it and stressing about weight/food on a day to day basis rather than tracking it on a week basis.

jfl at normies thinking there's specific routines that make you gain muscle faster, absolutely fucking over.

 

[chadmanlet04]

7+ years, unless you've been physically active since youth is too much of a time commitment. imagine some 23 yo skinnyfat dude who just wants to get in shape to increase his SMV only for him to see those gains by the time he reaches 30...

This is pretty much why many resort to steroids, it's not that roided physiques are impossible to attain natty, it just takes a lot of time.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Lol keep coping. The only guy who actually pulled this off has a chad face and thats @JOJOcel and we arent gl like him

7+ years, unless you've been physically active since youth is too much of a time commitment. imagine some 23 yo skinnyfat dude who just wants to get in shape to increase his SMV only for him to see those gains by the time he reaches 30...

This is pretty much why many resort to steroids, it's not that roided physiques are impossible to attain natty, it just takes a lot of time.

Might aswell just take mk677 for quicker natty results….

mk677 has no side effects anyways i can reach my full natty potential taking mk677 in like 2-3 years im pretty sure

 

[Blackgymmax]

Might aswell just take mk677 for quicker natty results….

mk677 has no side effects anyways i can reach my full natty potential taking mk677 in like 2-3 years im pretty sure

Mk will basically do nothing lol

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Mk will basically do nothing lol

It will make ur full natty potential gains come quicker in less then 4 years then wait for 7 years

 

[Lawton88]

Peak natural takes about 3-4 years give or take but most people will take longer and waste time and end up getting ugly in the meantime bulking meme'ing

you get 80% of your total lifetime gains in 18 months if you're training correctly.

Even people who are autistic about training and doing everything right like Alpha Destiny gain 2lbs of lean mass over 4 years

You gain a lot quicker than that if you are a decent responder.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

You gain a lot quicker than that if you are a decent responder.

So mk677 is totally safe with no side effect and can give u full potential in 2 years if good responder nice