People that support russia in the Ukraine war but not israel are hypocryte

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As I said before its the arguments but much stronger on tje israeli side.

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I don't support Israel, not at all. But it's a bit suspicious that nobody said anything about the terror attack that claimed 1000 Israeli lives, and even leftists pretend as if that never happened. Almost as if both sides of the political spectrum are more anti-semitic than they claim
 
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I don't support Israel, not at all. But it's a bit suspicious that nobody said anything about the terror attack that claimed 1000 Israeli lives, and even leftists pretend as if that never happened. Almost as if both sides of the political spectrum are more anti-semitic than they claim
Leftist are just anti west
 
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u made same thread before iirc
 
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Supporting Israel means to support the US as well.

They're tight allies, the US is giving Israel a military aid and political support. So, if you're siding with Israel, you're pretty much also supporting America's interests in the region.
 
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they dont care, all they want is to promote their shitty failed BRICS alliance because they feel mogged by the West
 
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Supporting Israel means to support the US as well.

They're tight allies, the US is giving Israel a military aid and political support. So, if you're siding with Israel, you're pretty much also supporting America's interests in the region.
So what ? . Israel reason are very similar to what russia claim and also I say I support israel and its funding thats it
 
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Not really since Russia doesn't support Israel as well
 
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I don't support Israel, not at all. But it's a bit suspicious that nobody said anything about the terror attack that claimed 1000 Israeli lives, and even leftists pretend as if that never happened.
It's literally one of the most spoken about events in history to the point that they had to invent lies about beheaded babies and false rapes to justify the massacre of at least 15.000 Palestinian children including via starving

What is actually incredibly strange is that no media speaks about how Israel carried a massive Hannibal Directive and killed their own citizens that day, to the point that 28 israeli helicopters emptied their bellies according to no less than an Israeli Colonel



What is strange is that the media doesn't speak constantly about the biggest infanticide in modern history, but they fixate on October 7th when Israel killed their own citizens by the masses so that to justify what is happening.
 
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I don't support any side in any of these wars.
 
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It's literally the most hyperinflated event in history to the point that they had to invent lies about beheaded babies and false rapes

What is actually incredibly strange is that no media speaks about how Israel carried a massive Hannibal Directive and killed their own citizens that day, to the point that 28 israeli helicopters emptied their bellies according to no less than an Israeli Colonel



What is strange is that the media doesn't speak constantly about the biggest infanticide in modern history, but they fixate on October 7th when Israel killed their own citizens by the masses so that to justify what is happening.

Your side had to lie about the icj court case about plausible genocide the president of ick had to clarify
 
The arguments is the same russia is against israel because anti west
You don't actually believe what Putin said in the Tucker Carlson interview is the genuine reason for the invasion, do you?
 
As usual you don't have an argument
I rest happy and assured knowing that every decent person here knows what is the reality between us and who is the one who argues with no more dignity than a rat

 
You don't actually believe what Putin said in the Tucker Carlson interview is the genuine reason for the invasion, do you?
I do belive putin belive in the ethnic and some historcal claims
 
I don't support Israel, not at all. But it's a bit suspicious that nobody said anything about the terror attack that claimed 1000 Israeli lives, and even leftists pretend as if that never happened. Almost as if both sides of the political spectrum are more anti-semitic than they claim
Not shocking when israelis sometimes never seem to find so called dead bodies

Now that is suspicious
Also op is a leftist and im not for context but its true what ur saying
 
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i will never support anything that have with jews
also don't compare this two wars
 
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I don't support any side in any of these wars.
they dont care, all they want is to promote their shitty failed BRICS alliance because they feel mogged by the West

I support hamas, not gonna lie. was funny when they did terrorism in israel. If only they could win war.

fucking zionist lobby groups got gov to pass laws that restricts free speech all in the name of 'combating antisemitism'. I remember that protest in that US university, they brought in police and bashed people's heads in. They did same shit to people in my country who protested arms being given to Israel.

I see no heads getting bashed in or laws passed to curb anti russian hate lol.

You have mass media spew shit to try brainwash us to like Israel. I never gave a fuck about middle east until i had big business and gov shove this shit down my throat and make legal actions to force me to act a certain way.

The zionists want to wage an imperialist war that is payed for by us and shielded from repercussions by us and at the sacrifice of our nation's reputation and democratic institutions.

Clearly the west has some kind of extremist parasite living off it. It ain't da joos, it's a small percentage of rich fuckheads who want to build a jewish state that controls the whole fertile crescent and lobby (bribe) our politicians to basically exhaust our own future to fuel their ethnostate that's going to have a billion and one permanent enemies.

They're going to eventually drag America and friends into some retarded war (AGAIN), perhaps a deadly one like with Iran
 
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I support hamas, not gonna lie. was funny when they did terrorism in israel. If only they could win war.

fucking zionist lobby groups got gov to pass laws that restricts free speech all in the name of 'combating antisemitism'. I remember that protest in that US university, they brought in police and bashed people's heads in. They did same shit to people in my country who protested arms being given to Israel.

I see no heads getting bashed in or laws passed to curb anti russian hate lol.

You have mass media spew shit to try brainwash us to like Israel. I never gave a fuck about middle east until i had big business and gov shove this shit down my throat and make legal actions to force me to act a certain way.

The zionists want to wage an imperialist war that is payed for by us and shielded from repercussions by us and at the sacrifice of our nation's reputation and democratic institutions.

Clearly the west has some kind of extremist parasite living off it. It ain't da joos, it's a small percentage of rich fuckheads who want to build a jewish state that controls the whole fertile crescent and lobby (bribe) our politicians to basically exhaust our own future to fuel their ethnostate that's going to have a billion and one permanent enemies.

They're going to eventually drag America and friends into some retarded war (AGAIN), perhaps a deadly one like with Iran
jewish pride world wide

israel has a right to exist
 
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Not shocking when israelis sometimes never seem to find so called dead bodies

Now that is suspicious
Also op is a leftist and im not for context but its true what ur saying
I am not a leftist i am a liberal
 
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this is how i act when i see someone say a nationstate has a right to exist

its called being pragmatic, you cant achieve an anarchist utopia by overthrowing a state
 
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its called being pragmatic, you cant achieve an anarchist utopia by overthrowing a state
Im just saying, israel has no right to my country's political and material resources spend on their own projects. They can fuck off with that.

Infact that shit pisses me off,
 
Im just saying, israel has no right to my country's political and material resources spend on their own projects. They can fuck off with that.

Infact that shit pisses me off,
its about what the country thinks as a whole, if most citizens are pro-israel then you cant do anything about it

supporting israel has positives, israel is a bastion of progressive values in an oppressive region filled with religious fundamentalism
 
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its about what the country thinks as a whole, if most citizens are pro-israel then you cant do anything about it

supporting israel has positives, israel is a bastion of progressive values in an oppressive region filled with religious fundamentalism
I mean you can do stuff to sway public opinion. Most young people and big chunk of gen X straight up dislike israel now because of the blatent corruption, activists and war crimes.

Again I don't give a single fuck about influencing middle east. If anything them and their need for endless wars of imperialism (where we foot the bill and sacrifice our own people) create the material conditions for islamic extremism to flourish as America and Israel are perfect propaganda pieces. Most of these countries internal contradictions would resolve naturally if left alone.

The only positives I see are in making excuses for states to spend ungodly amounts of money on killing machines.
 
I mean you can do stuff to sway public opinion. Most young people and big chunk of gen X straight up dislike israel now because of the blatent corruption, activists and war crimes.

Again I don't give a single fuck about influencing middle east. If anything them and their need for endless wars of imperialism (where we foot the bill and sacrifice our own people) create the material conditions for islamic extremism to flourish as America and Israel are perfect propaganda pieces. Most of these countries internal contradictions would resolve naturally if left alone.

The only positives I see are in making excuses for states to spend ungodly amounts of money on killing machines.
you do realize jewish people would get genocided if isreal were to cease to exist, right? what we have now is the path of least death and suffering, whether you like it or not
 
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you do realize jewish people would get genocided if isreal were to cease to exist, right? what we have now is the path of least death and suffering, whether you like it or not
Wdym? They could live in New York or California where basically half the jewish pop is already:feelshehe:.
 
Wdym? They could live in New York or California where basically half the jewish pop is already:feelshehe:.
how do you expect millions of people to abandon their homes and impose themselves elsewhere (which will have an even more negative effect than simply being supported by that place)? moreover, how is that not an obvious crime against humanity and ethnic cleansing?
 
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how do you expect millions of people to abandon their homes and impose themselves elsewhere (which will have an even more negative effect than simply being supported by that place)? moreover, how is that not an obvious crime against humanity and ethnic cleansing?
tbh they can foot the bill themselves for once. I got no empathy left for niggas who run high on my people's resources and propagandize my people.

If they can't afford return trip to Europe or America. Then it's GG for them.

This is like being asked to cry for the Eastern Germans who got deported and killed. Yeah you reap what you sow. Bit sad but shouldn't have supported hitler (Prussians voted for hitler at very high numbers and more catholic areas voted against him so it's not even guilt by association, they are the niggas who got hitler in).

So again, boohoo. I'll play a sad tune on the world's smallest violin after we cut all support to israel and jews get slaughtered.


boohoo, i'll shed a tear
 
tbh they can foot the bill themselves for once. I got no empathy left for niggas who run high on my people's resources and propagandize my people.

If they can't afford return trip to Europe or America. Then it's GG for them.

This is like being asked to cry for the Eastern Germans who got deported and killed. Yeah you reap what you sow. Bit sad but shouldn't have supported hitler (Prussians voted for hitler at very high numbers and more catholic areas voted against him so it's not even guilt by association, they are the niggas who got hitler in).

So again, boohoo. I'll play a sad tune on the world's smallest violin after we cut all support to israel and jews get slaughtered.


boohoo, i'll shed a tear

thats exactly what they're doing? theyre fending for themselves?

and everyone is still mad. there's no world in which jewish people are gonna be free from the wrath of jealous people, jfl
 
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thats exactly what they're doing? theyre fending for themselves?

and everyone is still mad. there's no world in which jewish people are gonna be free from the wrath of jealous people, jfl
They can fend for themselves while USA cuts all support and sanctions them for lobbying them for do many years

Yeah bro, them niggas be catching shit for 3 thousand years.
 
tbh they can foot the bill themselves for once. I got no empathy left for niggas who run high on my people's resources and propagandize my people.

If they can't afford return trip to Europe or America. Then it's GG for them.

This is like being asked to cry for the Eastern Germans who got deported and killed. Yeah you reap what you sow. Bit sad but shouldn't have supported hitler (Prussians voted for hitler at very high numbers and more catholic areas voted against him so it's not even guilt by association, they are the niggas who got hitler in).

So again, boohoo. I'll play a sad tune on the world's smallest violin after we cut all support to israel and jews get slaughtered.


boohoo, i'll shed a tear

If usa cuts all support then israel will be more brutal . Your justfication of ethnic cleansing is insane
 
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They can fend for themselves while USA cuts all support and sanctions them for lobbying them for do many years

Yeah bro, them niggas be catching shit for 3 thousand years.
Why would the US do something that goes against all of it's interests? Do you want to see Iran becoming more powerful?

The US is internationalist and thats why it mogs, manifest destiny
 
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If usa cuts all support then israel will be more brutal . Your justfication of ethnic cleansing is insane
I don't need justification. They propagandize me, i hear annoying yapping when i turn on media

As far as I'm concerned, I'll be satisfied when they're all dead as revenge for all the whiney bitches on TV talking about anti semitism.

My ears are worth more to me than their whole race.

get fucked.

Why would the US do something that goes against all of it's interests? Do you want to see Iran becoming more powerful?

The US is internationalist and thats why it mogs, manifest destiny
Imperialism only benefits the elites. I do not benefit from us terror bombing of civilians. If anything, i am hurt, I am hurt when i gotta pay for all this shit from taxes.

These 'interests' are bullshit. us would make more money trading with iran than israel based on the fact iran is much bigger. So let iran fuck them up. We'll sell them the weapons. That mogs the current arrangement where we give israel guns for free. But fuck that though, I want millitary to be reduced.

America and rest of west multi continent sized behemoths. We can simply dump all that 800 billion a year that goes to millitary spending to build the most safe possible thorium power plants so we can cut energy costs by several fold.
 
Us Marxists-Leninists want the liberation of the Palestinians from Israeli apartheid and Jewish colonialism and Zionism.

We also want the Denazification of Ukraine and the stymieing of NATO fascist expansion.

The Communist Party of Russia wanted to intervene sooner. The CIA overthrew the pro-Russia government in Ukraine in 2014.

The people of Ukraine voted 95/5 in a referendum to join Russia.
The post 2014 Ukrainian era has been defined by the Azov Battallion killing 15,000 people in the Donbass.

Thanks to the special military operation, Russia has liberated the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic: two socialist proletarian led governments.

However despite Ukraine being dismantled, the battle against NATO looms. Joe Biden blew up the Nordstream Pipeline; something that would've lowered gas prices for many in Europe.

And that's the thing about the capitalists; they're willing to hold back progress of humanity if it means protecting their globalist profits.

@Putin @MagaPutinism
 
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Us Marxists-Leninists want the liberation of the Palestinians from Israeli apartheid and Jewish colonialism and Zionism.

We also want the Denazification of Ukraine and the stymieing of NATO fascist expansion.

The Communist Party of Russia wanted to intervene sooner. The CIA overthrew the pro-Russia government in Ukraine in 2014.

The people of Ukraine voted 95/5 in a referendum to join Russia.
The post 2014 Ukrainian era has been defined by the Azov Battallion killing 15,000 people in the Donbass.

Thanks to the special military operation, Russia has liberated the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic: two socialist proletarian led governments.

However despite Ukraine being dismantled, the battle against NATO looms. Joe Biden blew up the Nordstream Pipeline; something that would've lowered gas prices for many in Europe.

And that's the thing about the capitalists; they're willing to hold back progress of humanity if it means protecting their globalist profits.
Is this a troll post or is this your honest virw
 
Us Marxists-Leninists want the liberation of the Palestinians from Israeli apartheid and Jewish colonialism and Zionism.]
ok israel isn't an apartheid state 20 percant of arabs can vote when israel takes land its its bad but when russia does its good start being consistent..
We also want the Denazification of Ukraine and the stymieing of NATO fascist expansion.]
Ukraine have a jewish president debunking the nazi claim and hamas, Irak and houtis are way closer to nazis . And nato is not facist all rhe countries in nato democracis and progessive and liberal and are against stealing terroity. And nato is not a threat to russia
The Communist Party of Russia wanted to intervene sooner. The CIA overthrew the pro-Russia government in Ukraine in 2014.]
cia didnt do that but even if they did it dosent justfy russia invasion to take terroity.
The people of Ukraine voted 95/5 in a referendum to join Russia.
The post 2014 Ukrainian era has been defined by the Azov Battallion killing 15,000 people in the Donbass.]
I am pretty sure israeli settletments in the west bank would wanna join israel and its not 15 k its 14 k and its mostly military deaths and not all killed by Ukraine

Russia have taken ukranians regions if you were consitent you would be against it or support israel when they does the same

You proved my point
 
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Imperialism only benefits the elites. I do not benefit from us terror bombing of civilians. If anything, i am hurt, I am hurt when i gotta pay for all this shit from taxes.

These 'interests' are bullshit. us would make more money trading with iran than israel based on the fact iran is much bigger. So let iran fuck them up. We'll sell them the weapons. That mogs the current arrangement where we give israel guns for free. But fuck that though, I want millitary to be reduced.

America and rest of west multi continent sized behemoths. We can simply dump all that 800 billion a year that goes to millitary spending to build the most safe possible thorium power plants so we can cut energy costs by several fold.
giving up your influence as a nation on the world stage isnt good long term, youre thinking on too small of a timescale

israel is an important ally for western values, no question
 
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Us Marxists-Leninists want the liberation of the Palestinians from Israeli apartheid and Jewish colonialism and Zionism.

We also want the Denazification of Ukraine and the stymieing of NATO fascist expansion.

The Communist Party of Russia wanted to intervene sooner. The CIA overthrew the pro-Russia government in Ukraine in 2014.

The people of Ukraine voted 95/5 in a referendum to join Russia.
The post 2014 Ukrainian era has been defined by the Azov Battallion killing 15,000 people in the Donbass.

Thanks to the special military operation, Russia has liberated the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic: two socialist proletarian led governments.

However despite Ukraine being dismantled, the battle against NATO looms. Joe Biden blew up the Nordstream Pipeline; something that would've lowered gas prices for many in Europe.

And that's the thing about the capitalists; they're willing to hold back progress of humanity if it means protecting their globalist profits.

@Putin @MagaPutinism
This is correct, moreover it's fucking Ukraine attacked first, Ukraine is a fucking agressor.
let me explain:
In 2014, Ukraine collapsed after the so-called " revolution of shame" On the fragments of the former Ukraine, the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the self-proclaimed DPR and LPR, which became part of Russia as a result of national referendums, as well as a puppet quasi-formation with signs of statehood, which self-proclaimed itself "Ukraine", although with Ukraine, the one within the borders of 1991, with which Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum and the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation, which has nothing in common. With this quasi-state entity under the rule of the Kiev Nazi regime, Russia did not sign any binding treaties, and it did not recognize the integrity of its borders. The Russian court recognized the events on the Maidan in 2014 as an illegal unconstitutional coup d'etat.After an illegal unconstitutional coup, the illegally self-appointed Acting president of the so-called "Ukraine" unleashed a civil war in the Donbas, in which the Armed gangs of the Self-Proclaimed Ukraine were defeated. At the request of a number of Western NATO member countries, with their mediation and with the mediation of Russia as guarantors, the Minsk Agreements were concluded, on the basis of which, subject to a number of conditions stipulated in this treaty, after their implementation by the self-proclaimed Ukraine, the DPR and LPR will remain part of this quasi-state entity on the rights of autonomies. The Minsk agreements were approved by the UN Security Council and became part of international law. The self-proclaimed B / Ukraine for 8 years did not fulfill the terms of the Agreement, and after that it officially abandoned them altogether, while resuming active hostilities against the LDNR. In this situation, after repeated warnings, Russia was obliged, within the framework of international law, to intervene and force the puppet Kiev regime to peace by military force. Russia recognized the independence of the LDNR, concluded a military aid agreement with them, and after holding national referendums on their decision, it included the LDNR in its composition. The Kiev Nazi regime, despite numerous warnings, continued its aggressive actions against the LDNR, and now against Russia, attacking new Russian territories. As a result of the aggression of the Kiev Nazi regime and the attack on Novorossiya, the operation of the SVO to demilitarize and denazify the illegal Kiev regime began. Moreover, Russia did not conduct a bilateral border demarcation either with the Ukrainian SSR(this is understandable) or with the former Ukraine. The self-named "Ukraine" tried to carry out unilateral border demarcation, but it is illegal. And since the officially recognized border between Russia and b / Ukraine did not exist, then it is impossible to violate their integrity, it is impossible to violate the integrity of what does not exist

And yeah,
if you support Ukraine and Israel at the same time, then you are a hypocrite, this is exactly the opposite of what you write in this thread

This guy is beyond retarded, Israel is an evil Zionist occupation state even according to Ukraine.
The UN called the occupation of the Palestinian territories an annexation.
Ukraine voted for recognition of Israel as an occupying state:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Ukraine was a member of the UN Security Council in 2016, and then a resolution passed through it saying that Israel was an occupying power, and Ukraine voted for it.
and even Ukraine itself compared Israeli settlements with the occupation of Crimea:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
and then it was even funnier. During the Hamas attack on Israel, Zelensky officially said that Israel has the right to defend itself. It turns out that Ukraine says that Israel is an occupier, but its actions to destroy Hamas are legitimate because Hamas is showing aggression towards Israel.
Do you understand what I'm getting at? Even if Russia is recognized as an occupying state, it turns out from the logic of Ukraine, Russia has every right to destroy all life in Ukraine as much as possible, because Ukraine is showing aggression towards Russia.

so if you support Ukraine and Israel at the same time, then you are a hypocrite and contradict yourself, if you support Russia and Israel, then there are no questions for you
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This is correct, moreover it's fucking Ukraine attacked first, Ukraine is a fucking agressor.
let me explain:
On the fragments of the former Ukraine, the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the self-proclaimed DPR and LPR, which became part of Russia as a result of national referendums, as well as a puppet quasi-formation with signs of statehood, which self-proclaimed itself "Ukraine", although with Ukraine, the one within the borders of 1991, with which Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum and the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation, which has nothing in common. With this quasi-state entity under the rule of the Kiev Nazi regime, Russia did not sign any binding treaties, and it did not recognize the integrity of its borders. The Russian court recognized the events on the Maidan in 2014 as an illegal unconstitutional coup d'etat.After an illegal unconstitutional coup, the illegally self-appointed Acting president of the so-called "Ukraine" unleashed a civil war in the Donbas, in which the Armed gangs of the Self-Proclaimed Ukraine were defeated. At the request of a number of Western NATO member countries, with their mediation and with the mediation of Russia as guarantors, the Minsk Agreements were concluded, on the basis of which, subject to a number of conditions stipulated in this treaty, after their implementation by the self-proclaimed Ukraine, the DPR and LPR will remain part of this quasi-state entity on the rights of autonomies. The Minsk agreements were approved by the UN Security Council and became part of international law. The self-proclaimed B / Ukraine for 8 years did not fulfill the terms of the Agreement, and after that it officially abandoned them altogether, while resuming active hostilities against the LDNR. In this situation, after repeated warnings, Russia was obliged, within the framework of international law, to intervene and force the puppet Kiev regime to peace by military force. Russia recognized the independence of the LDNR, concluded a military aid agreement with them, and after holding national referendums on their decision, it included the LDNR in its composition. The Kiev Nazi regime, despite numerous warnings, continued its aggressive actions against the LDNR, and now against Russia, attacking new Russian territories. As a result of the aggression of the Kiev Nazi regime and the attack on Novorossiya, the operation of the SVO to demilitarize and denazify the illegal Kiev regime began. Moreover, Russia did not conduct a bilateral border demarcation either with the Ukrainian SSR(this is understandable) or with the former Ukraine. The self-named "Ukraine" tried to carry out unilateral border demarcation, but it is illegal. And since the officially recognized border between Russia and b / Ukraine did not exist, then it is impossible to violate their integrity, it is impossible to violate the integrity of what does not exist

And yeah,
if you support Ukraine and Israel at the same time, then you are a hypocrite, this is exactly the opposite of what you write in this thread

This guy is beyond retarded, Israel is an evil Zionist occupation state even according to Ukraine.
The UN called the occupation of the Palestinian territories an annexation.
Ukraine voted for recognition of Israel as an occupying state:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Ukraine was a member of the UN Security Council in 2016, and then a resolution passed through it saying that Israel was an occupying power, and Ukraine voted for it.
and even Ukraine itself compared Israeli settlements with the occupation of Crimea:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
and then it was even funnier. During the Hamas attack on Israel, Zelensky officially said that Israel has the right to defend itself. It turns out that Ukraine says that Israel is an occupier, but its actions to destroy Hamas are legitimate because Hamas is showing aggression towards Israel.
Do you understand what I'm getting at? Even if Russia is recognized as an occupying state, it turns out from the logic of Ukraine, Russia has every right to destroy all life in Ukraine as much as possible, because Ukraine is showing aggression towards Russia.

so if you support Ukraine and Israel at the same time, then you are a hypocrite and contradict yourself, if you support Russia and Israel, then there are no questions for you
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I already destroyed you in every fucking debate .
 
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you don't have any arguments left I see
I have we have debates thousands of time and i have won every time . Stop posting a a million word page
 
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ok israel isn't an apartheid state 20 percant of arabs can vote when israel takes land its its bad but when russia does its good start being consistent..

Ukraine have a jewish president debunking the nazi claim and hamas, Irak and houtis are way closer to nazis . And nato is not facist all rhe countries in nato democracis and progessive and liberal and are against stealing terroity. And nato is not a threat to russia

cia didnt do that but even if they did it dosent justfy russia invasion to take terroity.

I am pretty sure israeli settletments in the west bank would wanna join israel and its not 15 k its 14 k and its mostly military deaths and not all killed by Ukraine

Russia have taken ukranians regions if you were consitent you would be against it or support israel when they does the same

You proved my point
You're coming from a liberal point of view that "muh little guy is good! muh big bully is bad!".
You have to look at the ideological lines to see clearer.

I'm a communist. Russia liberating socialist republics in the Donbass is good because all I care about are the workers.
Israel taking Palestine's land isn't good because all I care about are the workers.

Israel is imperialist. It's the highest stage of capitalism.
This too must be dismantled.

NATO is fascist because all they do is export it to the 3rd World while maintaining some degree of normalcy in the imperial core. NATO bombed Yugoslavia, a socialist country. NATO rehired Nazi generals post WWII. It was Stalin who brought out the Nuremberg trials to punish the Nazis, not NATO who wanted to let them off the hook. It was NATO who filled the South Vietnamese government with Nazi sympathizers.

The CIA was absolutely behind the 2014 Maiden coup. Russia is absolutely justified in their invasion.

Comparing any faction that is Muslim to fascism is downright wrong. The Houthis have heavy socialist influence. Iran used their Shiite theocracy as way to reclaim identity after decades of British imperialism. Hamas are a liberation force.

To claim NATO is against stealing territory when every post WWII conflict involves them is propaganda.

To deny the Azov Battalion's genocide in the Donbass region pre 2022 is propaganda.

Social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism. It's still fascism. And none of the NATO countries are even social democracies anymore except maybe those Scandinavian countries.

Liberalism is becoming downright more and more fascist. Macron literally stole the election in France. Kamala gets anointed to be nominee without an open primary. Bourgeois democracy is an illusion. It's not real.
 
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I have we have debates thousands of time and i have won every time . Stop posting a a million word page
nigger you didn't won any, right now, you're just avoiding my arguments.
In short, Ukraine is the aggressor and the first to attack Russia, while violating international rights and agreements that were signed by them.
Moreover, Ukraine itself believes that Israel is an evil occupying state, so you are the hypocrite, not us.
 
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You're coming from a liberal point of view that "muh little guy is good! muh big bully is bad!".
You have to look at the ideological lines to see clearer.

I'm a communist. Russia liberating socialist republics in the Donbass is good because all I care about are the workers.
Israel taking Palestine's land isn't good because all I care about are the workers.

Israel is imperialist. It's the highest stage of capitalism.
This too must be dismantled.

NATO is fascist because all they do is export it to the 3rd World while maintaining some degree of normalcy in the imperial core. NATO bombed Yugoslavia, a socialist country. NATO rehired Nazi generals post WWII. It was Stalin who brought out the Nuremberg trials to punish the Nazis, not NATO who wanted to let them off the hook. It was NATO who filled the South Vietnamese government with Nazi sympathizers.

The CIA was absolutely behind the 2014 Maiden coup. Russia is absolutely justified in their invasion.

Comparing any faction that is Muslim to fascism is downright wrong. The Houthis have heavy socialist influence. Iran used their Shiite theocracy as way to reclaim identity after decades of British imperialism. Hamas are a liberation force.

To claim NATO is against stealing territory when every post WWII conflict involves them is propaganda.

To deny the Azov Battalion's genocide in the Donbass region pre 2022 is propaganda.

Social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism. It's still fascism. And none of the NATO countries are even social democracies anymore except maybe those Scandinavian countries.

Liberalism is becoming downright more and more fascist. Macron literally stole the election in France. Kamala gets anointed to be nominee without an open primary. Bourgeois democracy is an illusion. It's not real.
This jerk told me that NATO was created to protect against Russia (in his opinion, Russia wants to take over the whole world), although all NATO rats did was bomb the Eurasian continent and expand eastward, violating all the treaties and promises.
 
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