People who actually ascended how’d you do it?

[zenmanic]

title^

 

[M1nordragon]

Read every guide on this forum that applies to me. Used the search tool to search for fixes for my flaws. Built a routine and don’t be afraid of hardmaxes.

 

[Wingping]

i was obease and fat and hated my life no intrest from girls and no respect from them and they barley talked to me, i just decided one day to change up my lifestyle i started eating less calories then started working out and i changed up my diet and stopped eating goy and got leaner and puberty did most of it for me took around 2 years and now i get intrest from girls they talk to me more treat me better and i have gotten experience with plenty of girls in a seuxal way, But i did not really do anything special i just let my genetics do it for me and this wont obv help much if your base is trash but thats my experience

 

[zenmanic]

i was obease and fat and hated my life no intrest from girls and no respect from them and they barley talked to me, i just decided one day to change up my lifestyle i started eating less calories then started working out and i changed up my diet and stopped eating goy and got leaner and puberty did most of it for me took around 2 years and now i get intrest from girls they talk to me more treat me better and i have gotten experience with plenty of girls in a seuxal way, But i did not really do anything special i just let my genetics do it for me and this wont obv help much if your base is trash but thats my experience

Any softmaxxes tho?

 

[bzn]

i started being confident

 

[zenmanic]

Read every guide on this forum that applies to me. Used the search tool to search for fixes for my flaws. Built a routine and don’t be afraid of hardmaxes.

Im seeing wich hardmaxxes could improve me actually, you did any?

 

[Wingping]

Any softmaxxes tho?

i mean i only changed my diet went to the gym got leaner and got taller (genetics) did not really do much

 

[Wingping]

Im seeing wich hardmaxxes could improve me actually, you did any?

it depends where your at and how you look

 

[M1nordragon]

Im seeing wich hardmaxxes could improve me actually, you did any?

I did multiple Aqualyx sessions on my buccal fat pads.

A lot of people might disagree that Aqualyx is a hardmax but it permanently dissolves your fat cells, so I think it is.

 

[zenmanic]

it depends where your at and how you look

Ofc ofc, I figured since I got general downward growth on the middle and bottom thirds I’d get maxillary osteotomy and corrective jaw surgery and rhino too for my horrible nose dump, or maxillary osteotomy and orthodontics after… Not bimax at once tho to avoid high risk

 

[Wingping]

Ofc ofc, I figured since I got general downward growth on the middle and bottom thirds I’d get maxillary osteotomy and corrective jaw surgery and rhino too for my horrible nose dump, or maxillary osteotomy and orthodontics after… Not bimax at once tho to avoid high risk

good luck g

 

[zenmanic]

I did multiple Aqualyx sessions on my buccal fat pads.

A lot of people might disagree that Aqualyx is a hardmax but it permanently dissolves your fat cells, so I think it is.

I’ve been thinking about aqualyx for myself, is there any side effects later on? I know buccal fat removal surgery later makes your skin sag because there’s not enough fat support for when your older, but is it the same case for aqualyx?

 

[bzn]

Im seeing wich hardmaxxes could improve me actually, you did any?

you should do them

 

[M1nordragon]

I’ve been thinking about aqualyx for myself, is there any side effects later on? I know buccal fat removal surgery later makes your skin sag because there’s not enough fat support for when your older, but is it the same case for aqualyx?

I don’t have any loose skin from it. And there’s no side effects from it after the initial bloating for about a week.

Keep in mind you need at least 2 sessions to see a noticeable difference from it. Don’t expect to ascend after one.

 

[zenmanic]

you should do them

yhea I’m just planning to, Im starting with rhino due to respiratory issues but I think that could later complicate other surgeries I have in mind like maxillary osteotomy… plus upper jaw surgery could make my nose not look as big because it would change the tilt of the nose tip, so I gotta look into what’s the best order for those three to be proceeded

 

[bzn]

yhea I’m just planning to, Im starting with rhino due to respiratory issues but I think that could later complicate other surgeries I have in mind like maxillary osteotomy… plus upper jaw surgery could make my nose not look as big because it would change the tilt of the nose tip, so I gotta look into what’s the best order for those three to be proceeded

how old are you if u don’t mind sharing

 

[zenmanic]

I don’t have any loose skin from it. And there’s no side effects from it after the initial bloating for about a week.

Keep in mind you need at least 2 sessions to see a noticeable difference from it. Don’t expect to ascend after one.

Perfect thanks, also I’ve heard it only looks good if you got good zygos, so I’m still hesitant since my zygos are not as great, but your info gives me hella good insight

 

[zenmanic]

how old are you if u don’t mind sharing

Just turned 18

 

[bzn]

Just turned 18

ur face still developing. im 19, turning 20 in a few days and look dramatically different from when i was 18. I decided it’s best to stack up money and soft max while ur face still develops. Do what you want but if u want to step it up, hop on test, softmax for 2 years— LEARN to talk to people.. I promise being good looking and knowing how to socially charm others makes u way more unstoppable than being a one trick pony. when ur 21-22 you’ll have alot more money, and likely less flaws to fix, or more prominent ones to prioritize

 

[Simikz]

It’s just surgery bro, it’s the answer

 

[zenmanic]

ur face still developing. im 19, turning 20 in a few days and look dramatically different from when i was 18. I decided it’s best to stack up money and soft max while ur face still develops. Do what you want but if u want to step it up, hop on test, softmax for 2 years— LEARN to talk to people.. I promise being good looking and knowing how to socially charm others makes u way more unstoppable than being a one trick pony. when ur 21-22 you’ll have alot more money, and likely less flaws to fix, or more prominent ones to prioritize

Yhea softmaxxing till 20 is a good idea, I do good socially making friends and whatever, but besides hooking up with chicks on vacation I’m not as good competing in the dating market, I just don’t want to get to college and realize I’m not able to compete on the league, I’m tired of going through hell for a stable relationship.
On another note, from experience would you say test helped develop your face? I’m super curious about hopping on ngl.

 

[valentine]

surgery and makeup and other frauds

 

[bzn]

lowkey, test was fire for the first few weeks, but i’m on week 5.5 as of today. i am on a relatively low dose of 250 mg test E per week but split dose it. Pumps are amazing and strength gains feel great. Facially for me it fluctuates, you do bloat easier from water retention, but i’ve been on a lot of adderall and stims lately so my appetite has been suppressed. While facial changes take awhile depending on your age and dose, u can expect tougher skin and maybe slight masculinization in the brow ridge and mandible, but that’s already expected even with late stage puberty. I don’t tell people to hop on because i want to gatekeep it. it’s not super life changing but definitely a quality of life boost.

 

[gencell.]

title^

Got on here a bit pre puberty (got it late) and "puberty maxed" or wtv, been scared to do hard shit therefore im only mtn (been rated hmtn and lmtn) dont know your age but the basic shit obviously works, sleep, working out (to grow muscles+test) eating good, sun etc.

 

[zenmanic]

lowkey, test was fire for the first few weeks, but i’m on week 5.5 as of today. i am on a relatively low dose of 250 mg test E per week but split dose it. Pumps are amazing and strength gains feel great. Facially for me it fluctuates, you do bloat easier from water retention, but i’ve been on a lot of adderall and stims lately so my appetite has been suppressed. While facial changes take awhile depending on your age and dose, u can expect tougher skin and maybe slight masculinization in the brow ridge and mandible, but that’s already expected even with late stage puberty. I don’t tell people to hop on because i want to gatekeep it. it’s not super life changing but definitely a quality of life boost.

Mirin hella bhai, preciate it a lot

 

[kernelmogs]

I did multiple Aqualyx sessions on my buccal fat pads.

A lot of people might disagree that Aqualyx is a hardmax but it permanently dissolves your fat cells, so I think it is.

How long did it take for results? and what guide did you use. Im planning on using aqualyx for buccal fat but still contemplating it

 

[orguser1223]

title^

Pinning, surgery, softmax. Max out everything u can do without surgery before even considering it. Bonesmash word asw go on forum to find guide

 

[zenmanic]

Pinning, surgery, softmax. Max out everything u can do without surgery before even considering it. Bonesmash word asw go on forum to find guide

Wait bonesmashing actually works besides the swelling?

 

[yearnforlooks]

started taking chinese chemicals at 14 n then after a couple years i looked in the mirror and realized im no longer a sub human