[Physiquemaxxing] Mass is a lot more important than you think

Mass is mandatory
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absolutely

(both pics are within a year btw XD)
 
hard disagree, prettyboy archetype >>>
 
hard disagree, prettyboy archetype >>>
"hard disagree:soy:" nigga shut the fuck up you have no idea how many "prettyboy archetypes" gf's ive had throwing themselves all over me while they sit there skinny, weak, and useless unable to do anything about it

and i dont even go for peoples gf's and maintain that respectful boundary but anyone who thinks like you is just a virgin sitting on tiktok looking at looksmax edits

its not even a realistically attainable end goal for a lot of people that dont fit into that phenotype already. most people will be better off gymmaxxing roidmaxxing to improve smv and attraction via sexual dimorphism gains
 
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"hard disagree:soy:" nigga shut the fuck up you have no idea how many "prettyboy archetypes" gf's ive had throwing themselves all over me while they sit there skinny, weak, and useless unable to do anything about it

and i dont even go for peoples gf's and maintain that respectful boundary but anyone who thinks like you is just a virgin sitting on tiktok looking at looksmax edits

its not even a realistically attainable end goal for a lot of people that dont fit into that phenotype already. most people will be better off gymmaxxing roidmaxxing to improve smv and attraction via sexual dimorphism gains
I hear that and it may be better to have more mass, but I simply don't want to look like that.

Especially at 5,10 it just looks like manlet gymcel COPE

So even if I am sacrificing IOIS I can accept that

Don't get me wrong I still gymcel but how you look in the before 'skinny' pic
 
he is literally in show day condition in the first pic btw. there is a ton of actual contractile tissue on his frame

also

we are supposed to be looking at clothed videos/photos, unfrauded, and candid to see what it looks like irl





I was just showing you a version of him with less mass, obviously he is still huge and top 0.01% physique.

My point is that I prefer a slender look, regardless of if it is the 'ideal' physique or not.

If I was 6,2 like you mayb i'd gymcel harder but I think slim looks elegant
 
hard disagree, prettyboy archetype >>>
You are 13, 13 year old girls date feminine looking guys because that's literally their dating pool

Once you look at the actual dating market you'll see being feminine and small has no benefits
 
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I was just showing you a version of him with less mass, obviously he is still huge and top 0.01% physique.

My point is that I prefer a slender look, regardless of if it is the 'ideal' physique or not.

If I was 6,2 like you mayb i'd gymcel harder but I think slim looks elegant
yeah i literally used to think like you but then i realized that you most likely wont even be able to get as big as you DONT want to be, lol.

realistically you should push to add on as much fucking size as humanly possible and then you'll kind of realize one day when ur at where you want to be. thats what i did. ive noticed that my most attractive physique has been around 210lbs at 6'3, 10% bodyfat and ive sort of maintained that on and off since 2021. (ive pushed upwards of 230 at 10% and been down sometimes to 195lbs at 10% depending on my gym/food consistency and cycling)

i can almost guarantee that you will look so much better with 5-10lbs of muscle on your frame
 
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yeah i literally used to think like you but then i realized that you most likely wont even be able to get as big as you DONT want to be, lol.

realistically you should push to add on as much fucking size as humanly possible and then you'll kind of realize one day when ur at where you want to be. thats what i did. ive noticed that my most attractive physique has been around 210lbs at 6'3, 10% bodyfat and ive sort of maintained that on and off since 2021. (ive pushed upwards of 230 at 10% and been down sometimes to 195lbs at 10% depending on my gym/food consistency and cycling)

i can almost guarantee that you will look so much better with 5-10lbs of muscle on your frame
Mayb

When I'm as shredded as I want to be I might turn around and go 'OMG, @ZyzzReincarnate was right, now that I've lost all this water weight and glycogen I look like I've never trained a day in my life!!'

If that happens I will admit twinkpill defeat and blast tren
 
Mayb

When I'm as shredded as I want to be I might turn around and go 'OMG, @ZyzzReincarnate was right, now that I've lost all this water weight and glycogen I look like I've never trained a day in my life!!'

If that happens I will admit twinkpill defeat and blast tren
you are literally describing a phase i went through already

trust me being jacked is better than being "slender".

that aesthetic solely belongs to the top 0.0001% of attractive men who are simply just beautiful all across the board. even those guys will get mogged by a high t jacked dimorphic chad though in real life.

the thing thats overlooked about being jacked is that people quite literally go out of their way and make sure not to piss you off, upset you, disrespect you, and so on. women pick up on this and it mogs. plain and simple.
 
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fuck

brutal wisdompill
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youd be surprised to discover that these photos are both me on the same day, at my peak size of 230lbs, when i had over 18" arms.

the "too big manlet cope" look is really hard to achieve where it would show through regular clothing, srs.


i also generally focus on my upper body (i dont train legs any more) and i urge others to prioritize upper body over legs by far
 
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Most bodybuilders look bad bc they are ugly to begin with. If women find u good looking already, staying in the single digits to 15-17% range while controlling bloat when bulking, and provided being noticeably jacked in clothes, relaxed arms hang out slightly bc they sit on ur lats that u can see from the front, u are going to massively increase ur attractiveness as long as ur not short and dont have a small joint structure, wide hips and narrow clavicles. U wanna look superman like not like a bulldog or pitbull like the tren twins. This is mainly just frame size and bone length overall. U look like ur officiating ur self and the muscle is running out of room to go even if ur less muscular in total size than a taller bigger frame guy u will have the illusion of looking more thick and stocky and bigger standing by ur self in a bad way. And standing next to a guy who’s actually more jacked but superior frame you wont even have the illusion of being bigger as a bonus then. U will just look more uncomfortable looking and like a stereotypical unaesthetic unattractive bodybuilder. If ur tall enough Id say 5’8-5’9 minimum ideally 5’10+ and a wide big joint frame but small hips, the best thing u can do is try to get as big and freaky as u can. Women r not seeing u with a pump under downlighting shirt off flexing when ur relaxed. My attraction to women only continues to go up so long as I remain X framed with a pretty Small waist. My current best is 207lbs in stage condition carbed up and on cycle. I have a top .3% physique in terms of freakiness and it still benefits me. Not necessary but the other thing is too as long as ur frame, height, face are there u can get even bigger than women would want and they will mentally find a work around to like it. Its never been easier to not age from roids. After 1 long cycle and one short cycle I haven’t aged but gotten younger looking from skincare.
 
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Fucking mirin looking that wide in clothes
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THREAD TRACK:


I've noticed that a lot of people here will post their physique, be lean and aesthetic, and users will tell them perfect! Now don't add any more size. This is the worst advice ever.

This is literally part of the reason why people say gym is cope too LOL.






So whats the solution to this?
GET FUCKIN BIGGER GODDAMMIT!!!


a lot of you motherfuckers just be saying the most retarded shit and not even thinking of reality even slightly. if you've got a lot of mass on your frame not only will you take up a lot of space and be very noticeable in ANY SETTING, it will also accentuate features like your v taper, more vascular arms, etc.

this is basically like a SFW sex beacon for women.


they'll be looking at you like a piece of meat wondering how it looks underneath them clothes LOLLLL



You obtain the sex appeal while shirtless physique pretty easily if you just leanmaxx and perhaps do a little bit of gymcelling, but as soon as u put a shirt on literally all ur gymcelling is gone.​


HOLY SHIT EPIC PHYSIQUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JFL GREAT PHYSIQUE DISAPPEARS WITH A SHIRT ON BECOMES COMPLETELY USELESS LOLL +0 SMV

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and you definitely dont wanna be some PHAG wearing TIGHT ASS XXXS COMPRESSION SHIRTS OUT TO COMPENSATE. JUST MAKES U LOOK TRYHARD AF.


however, pack on substantial size, and now you're MOGGING IN ANY KIND OF ATTIRE.





i think you guys should get it by now tbh.

get jacked and shredded af and win at life.



ZyzzReincarnate OUT

nigga do you live in florida :lul: i swear i seen the gym in the background before.

Also, mirin physique, can’t wait to hop on roids and finally stop being a twig
 
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agree to an extent

if bidelt is wide asf relative to height then you’ll appear big either way
No u won’t. U will appear like someone with a wide shoulder bone structure lmfao. As long as ur clavicles are a bit above average if u have the genes and the conditions diet training roids u can build delts so big u will be wider than people with wider clavicles. Triceps and lags also count to ur width near ur upper body. It’s the V not just the upper shoulder. There are guys with wider clavicles than me not a ton bc mine are pretty wide but bc my lats make my arms hang on them my triceps are big my delts are big and the resting on my lats makes the delts pop out even more from tension like I’m doing a pose almost, I look way wider in the upper body. No body cares about measuring your bidelt. It’s about how wide u look from chest level and then having a proportionally small waist. Wide clavicles plus this are really where it gets wacky looking. Also most of the widest clavicle bigger frame guys I’ve ever seen are 5’10-6’2 and taller guys not as much. I’m not the only one who’s noticed this. Exceptions are like pro strongmen and pro athletes.
 
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youd be surprised to discover that these photos are both me on the same day, at my peak size of 230lbs, when i had over 18" arms.

the "too big manlet cope" look is really hard to achieve where it would show through regular clothing, srs.


i also generally focus on my upper body (i dont train legs any more) and i urge others to prioritize upper body over legs by far
Too big manlet is only short and small frame. U can not have that and still look bad like Ronnie Coleman who I replaced a ton as a bodybuilder and is from another planet but looks bad in appeal bc he’s sub5 facially, unaesthetic, huge waist and bad portions at his prime. Also not the best frame actually. Small joints which is good for looking good in poses but not irl bc it usually means narrower clavicles too. If Arnold kept getting bigger and maintained his aesthetics roughly, he would look worlds better. If u get guys who are tall enough, good frame, naturally good looking and Dimorphic face and skull and they have good proportions, flow to their body, and are big as long as they don’t age like sour milk (no excuse in 2026) they will do very well. There’s a difference between the gross bodybuilder and the hot jacked guy association and it’s not even size or cosmetic look it’s all the other stuff. Height, frame, skull, aesthetics and promotions, aging. So many bodybuilders are already sub5 or worse and then just let themselves look like senior citizens bc they have bad genes for resilience to the drugs and don’t bother to try to stop it. U can see this in guys who can take a lot and not age vs guys who take the same age a ton and don’t get as big. Genetics end of the day. No avoiding it fully.
 
its only valid if youre 5'9 and above
having too much mass makes you look even more manlet when youre anything below 5'9
 

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