(Pics) Chin becoming uncanny from bonesmashing - here was the mistake (design ur structure right)

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Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider
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Here’s wit swelling a few days ago
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Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum)
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You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and “detached” or sm
1773766569624


A major problem; morphed by trajectory based on the spots I was hitting and realized I was on the road to making some shit rly imbalanced

Focusing hard for this next period on the chin-mandible meeting point and through the gonion to the corner:
1773766642772


To straighten out this curve/antegonial notch that only gets more and more pronounced as I’m hitting the areas I’m hitting and to get something like this:
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^Though the chin still does not blend into the mandible aesthetically and looks too bulky or something here. Thankfully it’s mostly swelling and immature collagen scar tissue matrix that is being reabsorbed as I rest this week.

But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
1773767221957


If you don’t have chad structure, then the before after of a morph or IRL jaw angle implant results shows how it’s almost like there’s a fucking “triangle” of mass missing:
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We are not trying to be trianglecels. We are trying to squaremaxx.

Lower third in later November 2025 (started hitting for ramus width and a little bit of gonial projection at the start of 2026):
1773767523018

But then now:
1773767625318

CRUCIAL RAMUS WIDTH was the main focus. But for this next phase, again, it is more about:

1773767713290

Straightening that antegonial notch, which is a lot worse in other pics and got worse as I brought out the corners WITHOUT hitting this gonial-mandible area enough to harmonize.

How much of results are permanent:
ALSO, SKIN NEEDS TO RECOVER AND IM NOT HITTING FOR 8-9 DAYS. Day 5 right now: will see as swelling dies down, and immature collagen scar tissue matrix layer reabsorbs, how much is permanent dense mature collagen scar tissue mass. It only took weeks before I felt hard lumps in the lower part of my ramus in the shower washing face which hadn’t been noticed before.
Chin, having only started corners more recently, will hopefully be mostly swelling given it was being overwidened.
But my lower 3rd: it sure as hell isn’t reverting to November baseline LOL. Because without or with swelling now it always looks better than the first sessions of swelling from that baseline in early January.

Discovered a lot more about how to use bonesmashing to grow with harmony and to an ideal end point, so more coming. It’s not gaining mass that’s the hard part when doing this correctly + 2-3x a day
 

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ur overthinking , in public or out with foids , you wont be contracting ur facial muscles actively like u are doing in this pic
you'll be laughing , talking , kissing and shit , so this isnt bad enough to stand out in that environment , so dw
 
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can bonesmashing actually lenghten ur ramus?
 
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Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider
View attachment 4779848

Here’s wit swelling a few days ago
View attachment 4779851

Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum)
View attachment 4779853

You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and “detached” or sm
View attachment 4779857

A major problem; morphed by trajectory based on the spots I was hitting and realized I was on the road to making some shit rly imbalanced

Focusing hard for this next period on the chin-mandible meeting point and through the gonion to the corner:
View attachment 4779861

To straighten out this curve/antegonial notch that only gets more and more pronounced as I’m hitting the areas I’m hitting and to get something like this:
View attachment 4779867
^Though the chin still does not blend into the mandible aesthetically and looks too bulky or something here. Thankfully it’s mostly swelling and immature collagen scar tissue matrix that is being reabsorbed as I rest this week.

But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
View attachment 4779898

If you don’t have chad structure, then the before after of a morph or IRL jaw angle implant results shows how it’s almost like there’s a fucking “triangle” of mass missing:
View attachment 4779914

We are not trying to be trianglecels. We are trying to squaremaxx.

Lower third in later November 2025 (started hitting for ramus width and a little bit of gonial projection at the start of 2026):
View attachment 4779926
But then now:
View attachment 4779937
CRUCIAL RAMUS WIDTH was the main focus. But for this next phase, again, it is more about:

View attachment 4779940
Straightening that antegonial notch, which is a lot worse in other pics and got worse as I brought out the corners WITHOUT hitting this gonial-mandible area enough to harmonize.

How much of results are permanent:
ALSO, SKIN NEEDS TO RECOVER AND IM NOT HITTING FOR 8-9 DAYS. Day 5 right now: will see as swelling dies down, and immature collagen scar tissue matrix layer reabsorbs, how much is permanent dense mature collagen scar tissue mass. It only took weeks before I felt hard lumps in the lower part of my ramus in the shower washing face which hadn’t been noticed before.
Chin, having only started corners more recently, will hopefully be mostly swelling given it was being overwidened.
But my lower 3rd: it sure as hell isn’t reverting to November baseline LOL. Because without or with swelling now it always looks better than the first sessions of swelling from that baseline in early January.

Discovered a lot more about how to use bonesmashing to grow with harmony and to an ideal end point, so more coming. It’s not gaining mass that’s the hard part when doing this correctly + 2-3x a day
not that bad
 
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Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider
View attachment 4779848

Here’s wit swelling a few days ago
View attachment 4779851

Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum)
View attachment 4779853

You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and “detached” or sm
View attachment 4779857

A major problem; morphed by trajectory based on the spots I was hitting and realized I was on the road to making some shit rly imbalanced

Focusing hard for this next period on the chin-mandible meeting point and through the gonion to the corner:
View attachment 4779861

To straighten out this curve/antegonial notch that only gets more and more pronounced as I’m hitting the areas I’m hitting and to get something like this:
View attachment 4779867
^Though the chin still does not blend into the mandible aesthetically and looks too bulky or something here. Thankfully it’s mostly swelling and immature collagen scar tissue matrix that is being reabsorbed as I rest this week.

But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
View attachment 4779898

If you don’t have chad structure, then the before after of a morph or IRL jaw angle implant results shows how it’s almost like there’s a fucking “triangle” of mass missing:
View attachment 4779914

We are not trying to be trianglecels. We are trying to squaremaxx.

Lower third in later November 2025 (started hitting for ramus width and a little bit of gonial projection at the start of 2026):
View attachment 4779926
But then now:
View attachment 4779937
CRUCIAL RAMUS WIDTH was the main focus. But for this next phase, again, it is more about:

View attachment 4779940
Straightening that antegonial notch, which is a lot worse in other pics and got worse as I brought out the corners WITHOUT hitting this gonial-mandible area enough to harmonize.

How much of results are permanent:
ALSO, SKIN NEEDS TO RECOVER AND IM NOT HITTING FOR 8-9 DAYS. Day 5 right now: will see as swelling dies down, and immature collagen scar tissue matrix layer reabsorbs, how much is permanent dense mature collagen scar tissue mass. It only took weeks before I felt hard lumps in the lower part of my ramus in the shower washing face which hadn’t been noticed before.
Chin, having only started corners more recently, will hopefully be mostly swelling given it was being overwidened.
But my lower 3rd: it sure as hell isn’t reverting to November baseline LOL. Because without or with swelling now it always looks better than the first sessions of swelling from that baseline in early January.

Discovered a lot more about how to use bonesmashing to grow with harmony and to an ideal end point, so more coming. It’s not gaining mass that’s the hard part when doing this correctly + 2-3x a day
ur slightly smirking in the new pics which makes ur chin taller lol its not due to bonesmashing unless u can take a pic completwly straight faced and no smiling i dont believe u
 
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not that bad
I wonder what changes are even needed from the before. I think as I try to fill that whole “triangle” from the side and get more robust, I’ll need to hit all the way until the chin corner kind of starts to blend it
 
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ur slightly smirking in the new pics which makes ur chin taller lol its not due to bonesmashing unless u can take a pic completwly straight faced and no smiling i dont believe u
Well it’s also immediately post swelling - see all the post text, I say I think chin changes are mostly swelling rn since it takes weeks for real changes to begin and I only started that part not that long back
 
how often do you smash?
 
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its good for now, if you keep that is good
I wonder what changes are even needed from the before. I think as I try to fill that whole “triangle” from the side and get more robust, I’ll need to hit all the way until the chin corner kind of starts to blend it
 
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Yes 3 hours each side per day for maximum efficiency
Haha nice but 3 TIMES per day yes. But 2-5min sessions with all the sets it takes
 
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how often do you smash?
3x per day, for almost all spots it is simply best, constantly keeping swelling inflammation going and the healing cascade that results in the body building scar tissue to your spots
I’m updating my free discussion group on this as I change things more so than I do here on .org but this frequency is still ideal, was doing 2x before earlier in 2026 and might have said that in my main transformation post
 
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3x per day, for almost all spots it is simply best, constantly keeping swelling inflammation going and the healing cascade that results in the body building scar tissue to your spots
I’m updating my free discussion group on this as I change things more so than I do here on .org but this frequency is still ideal, was doing 2x before earlier in 2026 and might have said that in my main transformation post
So its not bonemass its scar tissue and inflammation?
 
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But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
View attachment 4779898
Have you morphed the front with these changes taken into account? curious to see if the new frontal inclination would harmonize well especially with your IAA
 
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So its not bonemass its scar tissue and inflammation?
No one’s done before after X-rays but wolffs law was a poor theory application that eeally pertains to thickening nkt even growth of load bearing bones which aren’t the face bones under constant tension over time + subperiostal hematoma ossification theory as truly popularized in the Blake Speaks vid on YT from not terribly long ago has its challenges as well and it’s hard to create hematomas in practice apparently
So I can’t say fs what is growing under my skin but the scar tissue theory (seen in a comment on pg 3 or 4 in comments of my main post on here) also aligns with why intraday hitting and constant swelling seemed to be needed for results whereas the others would have literally indicated rest days, which yielded ppl no results whatsoever almost (except maybe cheekbones)
 
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Have you morphed the front with these changes taken into account? curious to see if the new frontal inclination would harmonize well especially with your IAA
Can you explain what IAA is to me?
Also I may not make the mandible profile totally straight from the front. Will see. But much more straigjtmaxxed than rn
 
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Yk it’s funny I just thought to look at this chart to see how the chin fits into the overall face on these structure archetypes and diamond is what I am rn w really laterally wide cheekbones and it’s the 1 that actually does have some chin separation

This is also why I may not entirely straighten the mandible profile bc diamond needs a little curve ig or else having that straight but then the rest of the fave aligned with diamond may be uncanny
 
Can you explain what IAA is to me?
Also I may not make the mandible profile totally straight from the front. Will see. But much more straigjtmaxxed than rn
IAA is the angle formed from 3 points one on each lateral canthus and one at the base of the nose. Value of it isn't too important on its own imo but it's important that these two angles don't deviate far from each other.
 

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Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider
View attachment 4779848

Here’s wit swelling a few days ago
View attachment 4779851

Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum)
View attachment 4779853

You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and “detached” or sm
View attachment 4779857

A major problem; morphed by trajectory based on the spots I was hitting and realized I was on the road to making some shit rly imbalanced

Focusing hard for this next period on the chin-mandible meeting point and through the gonion to the corner:
View attachment 4779861

To straighten out this curve/antegonial notch that only gets more and more pronounced as I’m hitting the areas I’m hitting and to get something like this:
View attachment 4779867
^Though the chin still does not blend into the mandible aesthetically and looks too bulky or something here. Thankfully it’s mostly swelling and immature collagen scar tissue matrix that is being reabsorbed as I rest this week.

But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
View attachment 4779898

If you don’t have chad structure, then the before after of a morph or IRL jaw angle implant results shows how it’s almost like there’s a fucking “triangle” of mass missing:
View attachment 4779914

We are not trying to be trianglecels. We are trying to squaremaxx.

Lower third in later November 2025 (started hitting for ramus width and a little bit of gonial projection at the start of 2026):
View attachment 4779926
But then now:
View attachment 4779937
CRUCIAL RAMUS WIDTH was the main focus. But for this next phase, again, it is more about:

View attachment 4779940
Straightening that antegonial notch, which is a lot worse in other pics and got worse as I brought out the corners WITHOUT hitting this gonial-mandible area enough to harmonize.

How much of results are permanent:
ALSO, SKIN NEEDS TO RECOVER AND IM NOT HITTING FOR 8-9 DAYS. Day 5 right now: will see as swelling dies down, and immature collagen scar tissue matrix layer reabsorbs, how much is permanent dense mature collagen scar tissue mass. It only took weeks before I felt hard lumps in the lower part of my ramus in the shower washing face which hadn’t been noticed before.
Chin, having only started corners more recently, will hopefully be mostly swelling given it was being overwidened.
But my lower 3rd: it sure as hell isn’t reverting to November baseline LOL. Because without or with swelling now it always looks better than the first sessions of swelling from that baseline in early January.

Discovered a lot more about how to use bonesmashing to grow with harmony and to an ideal end point, so more coming. It’s not gaining mass that’s the hard part when doing this correctly + 2-3x a day
Mirin lower third
 
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No wonder good chin implants have the side wings to blend it! @Seeyenar @holyname
 
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IAA is the angle formed from 3 points one on each lateral canthus and one at the base of the nose. Value of it isn't too important on its own imo but it's important that these two angles don't deviate far from each other.
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@thecel you mind measuring exact value of both gonial angles?
 
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ur overthinking , in public or out with foids , you wont be contracting ur facial muscles actively like u are doing in this pic
you'll be laughing , talking , kissing and shit , so this isnt bad enough to stand out in that environment , so dw
Appreciate the balance
And this is peak swelling right here so ik things aren’t this permanently

It’s more that if I had continued corners targeting and chin with in isolation well this morph showed me what would have come
So now it’s about the side profile change as shown in that morph which will also bring out this curve some
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can bonesmashing actually lenghten ur ramus?
i hope this is a joke
Also yeah it’s not directly able to do this it’s more that if you add height at the bottom of the gonion so under the chin corner then sure it will kind of look like this like when ppl get gonial angle implants sometimes, tho most of those have a ramus component as well
 
Appreciate the balance
And this is peak swelling right here so ik things aren’t this permanently

It’s more that if I had continued corners targeting and chin with in isolation well this morph showed me what would have come
So now it’s about the side profile change as shown in that morph which will also bring out this curve some
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send ur pics to loads of modelling agencies in ur country if ur above 180 cm , i believe ur jaw is catchy enough for it , i mean its worth a shot , if its a success , then free money for ya
 
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IAA is the angle formed from 3 points one on each lateral canthus and one at the base of the nose. Value of it isn't too important on its own imo but it's important that these two angles don't deviate far from each other.
Fuck, need to look into these things more
Slightly close say eyes like Somerhalder (made worse by wide cheekbones unlike him) make midface look slightly longer than it would and thus than angle slightly tighter, probably limiting how much I can bring the jaw down for those side profile gains and generally the chad square look without getting uncanny

High IQ user may have saved me
 
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CTE?
And how do you know it's exactly fibrotic damage?
 
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It would be really hard to create severe deviations in FA/IAA by bonesmashing
IAA is the angle formed from 3 points one on each lateral canthus and one at the base of the nose. Value of it isn't too important on its own imo but it's important that these two angles don't deviate far from each other.
 
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It would be really hard to create severe deviations in FA/IAA by bonesmashing
I'm basing it off of the morphs he made not on what happens in practice jfl, he could do this with filler if he wanted to.

Doesn't change the principle
 
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I'm basing it off of the morphs he made not on what happens in practice jfl, he could do this with filler if he wanted to.

Doesn't change the principle
Yes.
 
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Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider
View attachment 4779848

Here’s wit swelling a few days ago
View attachment 4779851

Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum)
View attachment 4779853

You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and “detached” or sm
View attachment 4779857

A major problem; morphed by trajectory based on the spots I was hitting and realized I was on the road to making some shit rly imbalanced

Focusing hard for this next period on the chin-mandible meeting point and through the gonion to the corner:
View attachment 4779861

To straighten out this curve/antegonial notch that only gets more and more pronounced as I’m hitting the areas I’m hitting and to get something like this:
View attachment 4779867
^Though the chin still does not blend into the mandible aesthetically and looks too bulky or something here. Thankfully it’s mostly swelling and immature collagen scar tissue matrix that is being reabsorbed as I rest this week.

But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
View attachment 4779898

If you don’t have chad structure, then the before after of a morph or IRL jaw angle implant results shows how it’s almost like there’s a fucking “triangle” of mass missing:
View attachment 4779914

We are not trying to be trianglecels. We are trying to squaremaxx.

Lower third in later November 2025 (started hitting for ramus width and a little bit of gonial projection at the start of 2026):
View attachment 4779926
But then now:
View attachment 4779937
CRUCIAL RAMUS WIDTH was the main focus. But for this next phase, again, it is more about:

View attachment 4779940
Straightening that antegonial notch, which is a lot worse in other pics and got worse as I brought out the corners WITHOUT hitting this gonial-mandible area enough to harmonize.

How much of results are permanent:
ALSO, SKIN NEEDS TO RECOVER AND IM NOT HITTING FOR 8-9 DAYS. Day 5 right now: will see as swelling dies down, and immature collagen scar tissue matrix layer reabsorbs, how much is permanent dense mature collagen scar tissue mass. It only took weeks before I felt hard lumps in the lower part of my ramus in the shower washing face which hadn’t been noticed before.
Chin, having only started corners more recently, will hopefully be mostly swelling given it was being overwidened.
But my lower 3rd: it sure as hell isn’t reverting to November baseline LOL. Because without or with swelling now it always looks better than the first sessions of swelling from that baseline in early January.

Discovered a lot more about how to use bonesmashing to grow with harmony and to an ideal end point, so more coming. It’s not gaining mass that’s the hard part when doing this correctly + 2-3x a day
I have that bonemass funnily but my chin Is somewhat narrow and roundy.
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Chin like this is ideal.
 
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@Grievous is this real

should i start hitting my infras 3x a day really hard
 
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CTE?
And how do you know it's exactly fibrotic damage?
Because of theory alignment and how fast changes happen imo
Even tho Blake makes a great point with fighters cauliflower ear ossifying in like a month apparently
 
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@Grievous is this real

should i start hitting my infras 3x a day really hard
yes inversions start smashing ur infras and by the time its ur A levels you'll be a mogger like androgenic (might have to do some filler too)
might be blind tho
 
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I'm basing it off of the morphs he made not on what happens in practice jfl, he could do this with filler if he wanted to.

Doesn't change the principle
It would be really hard to create severe deviations in FA/IAA by bonesmashing
Yk this is strongly in favor of only morphing full face pics from now on
Even just doing these for myself I’d often do lower face only to isolate the focus and see each feature for what it is, but yeah, harmony
 
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yes inversions start smashing ur infras and by the time its ur A levels you'll be a mogger like androgenic (might have to do some filler too)
might be blind tho
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@SpectrumAesthetics3

Should I hit my infras for 2 years
 
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Well it’s also immediately post swelling - see all the post text, I say I think chin changes are mostly swelling rn since it takes weeks for real changes to begin and I only started that part not that long back
Should i do it too my chin kind of weak bro
 
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@Grievous is this real

should i start hitting my infras 3x a day really hard
yes inversions start smashing ur infras and by the time its ur A levels you'll be a mogger like androgenic (might have to do some filler too)
might be blind tho
Can’t say I’ve really hit these places but people have
The early ebooks I bought on bonesmashing from deleted channel Indigenous Swiss included this area tho, etc

Actually I did them a little during some of the main bonesmashing phases discussses in before after transformation post with these finger bends here, but not frequently or high volume etc

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@SpectrumAesthetics3

Should I hit my infras for 2 years
Bonesmashing retards might be the worst type of 'looksmaxxers'
Just smash ur face for 3 hours a day to theoretically get the equivalent effects of 0.2ml filler
Anything but picking up the needle
 
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Bonesmashing retards might be the worst type of 'looksmaxxers'
Just smash ur face for 3 hours a day to theoretically get the equivalent effects of 0.2ml filler
Anything but picking up the needle
Doesn't filler rape ur bones or some shit

reabsorption or some high iq word like that
 
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@SpectrumAesthetics3

Should I hit my infras for 2 years
I can’t remember if @CheeseTouch hit here but he hit all these weird areas that I just can’t really speak to
The guy who really inspired me to go all in with this method did have undereye twitching from spots around here iirc and so does that tagged user some nerve damage in some places
I’d rather have an improved feature and have that side effect tho
JFL if you don’t become a chad with a paralyzed face
 
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Doesn't filler rape ur bones or some shit

reabsorption or some high iq word like that
Never heard of it
if u fuck it up probably or do too much
im not that educated on filler but its far better then smashing ur bones everyday

for context I did boxing for 2 years and conditioned my knuckles Alot
I maybe got a couple mms on my knuckles
that would be completely insignificant on someones face
not to include the fact the force and conditioning was far harder then what these bonesmashing fags r doing
 
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Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider
View attachment 4779848

Here’s wit swelling a few days ago
View attachment 4779851

Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum)
View attachment 4779853

You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and “detached” or sm
View attachment 4779857

A major problem; morphed by trajectory based on the spots I was hitting and realized I was on the road to making some shit rly imbalanced

Focusing hard for this next period on the chin-mandible meeting point and through the gonion to the corner:
View attachment 4779861

To straighten out this curve/antegonial notch that only gets more and more pronounced as I’m hitting the areas I’m hitting and to get something like this:
View attachment 4779867
^Though the chin still does not blend into the mandible aesthetically and looks too bulky or something here. Thankfully it’s mostly swelling and immature collagen scar tissue matrix that is being reabsorbed as I rest this week.

But the other thing with hitting the are shown as my next focus in this next phase is it will lead to a more chad tier side profile in straightening this notch and bringing down/out/“back” the whole jaw corner to chin corner profile:
(Extreme skin filter on this bc bonesmashing redness spots)
View attachment 4779898

If you don’t have chad structure, then the before after of a morph or IRL jaw angle implant results shows how it’s almost like there’s a fucking “triangle” of mass missing:
View attachment 4779914

We are not trying to be trianglecels. We are trying to squaremaxx.

Lower third in later November 2025 (started hitting for ramus width and a little bit of gonial projection at the start of 2026):
View attachment 4779926
But then now:
View attachment 4779937
CRUCIAL RAMUS WIDTH was the main focus. But for this next phase, again, it is more about:

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Straightening that antegonial notch, which is a lot worse in other pics and got worse as I brought out the corners WITHOUT hitting this gonial-mandible area enough to harmonize.

How much of results are permanent:
ALSO, SKIN NEEDS TO RECOVER AND IM NOT HITTING FOR 8-9 DAYS. Day 5 right now: will see as swelling dies down, and immature collagen scar tissue matrix layer reabsorbs, how much is permanent dense mature collagen scar tissue mass. It only took weeks before I felt hard lumps in the lower part of my ramus in the shower washing face which hadn’t been noticed before.
Chin, having only started corners more recently, will hopefully be mostly swelling given it was being overwidened.
But my lower 3rd: it sure as hell isn’t reverting to November baseline LOL. Because without or with swelling now it always looks better than the first sessions of swelling from that baseline in early January.

Discovered a lot more about how to use bonesmashing to grow with harmony and to an ideal end point, so more coming. It’s not gaining mass that’s the hard part when doing this correctly + 2-3x a day
Just stop flexing ur masseters and it’ll look better
 
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Because of theory alignment and how fast changes happen imo
Even tho Blake makes a great point with fighters cauliflower ear ossifying in like a month apparently
What do you think of pressing instead of smashing?
 
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Bonesmashing retards might be the worst type of 'looksmaxxers'
Addressed below
Just smash ur face for 3 hours a day to theoretically get the equivalent effects of 0.2ml filler
Anything but picking up the needle
Doesn't filler rape ur bones or some shit

reabsorption or some high iq word like that
*10min a day. Stop strawmanning with ridiculous time figures

Filler is great! It is mind blowing what cheat_win has done with it. But keep in mind over multiple appointments he’s gotten 20ML and that’s like $20k dude
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1773773485545

So it’s sick if ppl can get as close to their maximum ideal changes as possible for free

I JUST GOT FILLER in my weak flat upper submalar area / upper midface since can’t hit there even though CheeseTouch has hit there or close to it and apparently grown it. Filler for stuff you can’t 🔨 is awesome, or just for full face if you have plenty of money on hand for that
Re-absorption is the concern with implants not filler I thought

And calling people doing this retards. If you’ve read closely my main thread and 4 pages of comments with exchanges and more pics and clips in motion, and you truly think all my long term and recent face changes are explicable by other things, esp the jaw when it changed in 2mo (tho im off 🔨 8-9 days rn, seeing how much is just swelling soon when that dies down fully), despite me trying to counter all objections or other explanations, then I guess call ME a retard; yet there’s 60+ ppl in my completely free Skool following my full exact protocol- are they really retards for seeing my post and thinking my face looks a lot different, and scar tissue collagen mass formation makes sense when hitting a spot hard 3x per day per months, etc.
calling them retards is just dogmatic; it isn’t like they are doing this with no theoretical or anecdotal evidence to warrant it
 
Fuck, need to look into these things more
Slightly close say eyes like Somerhalder (made worse by wide cheekbones unlike him) make midface look slightly longer than it would and thus than angle slightly tighter, probably limiting how much I can bring the jaw down for those side profile gains and generally the chad square look without getting uncanny

High IQ user may have saved me
well worsening the eye spacing through widening cheekbones obviously doesn't mean the IAA has changed, eyes stayed in the same place, so i don't think that would matter.

Also ideal frontal angle in isolation is 90 degrees so definitely not a square look, but you can get away with much higher provided it harmonizes with the IAA. If it doesn't though then pretty big flaw.

But a high jaw frontal angle caused by good chin width is not as much of a problem as one caused by an overly low gonial angle.

So there's nuances, it's worth looking into this stuff

Also about somerhalder read the bit at the end i tagged you in, he defeated all harmony logic https://looksmax.org/threads/youre-...row-lips-cutecels-gtfih.1876487/post-27047558
 
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