(PICS) Definitively documenting years of bonesmashing changes + Protocol | All denial ends here tbh

[Grievous]

^And yet ur not getting out of this. Respond to me there or here.

nigga I do not care if u think bonesmashing works
why r u so bent on proving ur shitty cope
I didnt read the last long ass reply u gave nor am I reading this

 

[maxx92765]

@Seeyenar @maxx92765 @BananaBandit Alright, so guys, you know how there’s all these dudes in the comments intent on getting super aggressive in declaring the results to be non-bonesmashing and calling me XYZ?

and then not at all attempting to deep-dive analyze my post and the pics progression to add some attempt at substantiation to their “rebuttal”

and then who FAIL TO RESPOND when pressed, YET leave up their original comment?


As though their unproven and inflaming comment can just fucking stand there as is, almost always falling under the categories enumerated near the top of the post:
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Such as this true statesman @Gaygymmaxx , who is the most recent of these, some forum “OG” who to me just proves the general worthlessness of the “OG class” [ with the crucial exception of some greats like Amnesia ]


I then responded with the early 2026 lower third changes and with pics of how overdeveloped the cheekbones got from a literal flat starting place even when lean.

And Seeyenar says this


Then OG responds:


-Doesn’t explain or show why the post, which took a lot of hours to make with compiling many representative pics across periods along with various descriptions and notes, has zero valid pictures; it’s just “All of your pictures are shit” and “leanness” is the explanatory force, apparently. Despite such great efforts to differentiate facial changes from this that are seen in the post. Not debunked whatsoever

-And then a lack of measurements, bone scans, yes actually, I never measured my skull even once. First, I don’t claim bone changes, LOL, but for him to know this he’d have to really dig into the text and then the comments, to be apprised of this whole dense collagenenous mass scar tissue business. Some scan types could show this I guess. And then it’s acted as though it is utterly ridiculous to have posted this or to claim facial changes WITHOUT having done these things previously.

-The thing is, if I had taken the post, all pics all text, and replaced “bonesmashing” with “got X.YML filler in Z spots before these pics”, and had written it all as a filler progression post: then there wouldn’t have been these absurd burdens of proof to validate facial changes beyond the obviousness of the pics AND CLIPS in motion in the comments.

But apparently the standard of proof applied to me is not that which is applied to filler or implant claims. As though that makes any fucking sense. As though a user could not have just morphed their before state to make a fake after or the reverse even.

And then the kindly comment “just get a lobotomy” at the end, to put the cherry on top of an “exchange” that exemplifies much of what is fucked with this forum in 2026


Where “fuck around and find out” is no longer the spirit, and practitioners of this mindset are just as likely to be slammed as to be praised. Where any real discussion is completely shut down by the one-sided types of exchanges, which again END WITH THEM NOT DEFENDING THEIR SHIT.

Additionally, if these users think bonesmashing is retarded, think that I’m delusional and retarded, think that no one should try it: well, it is laughable how the immense movement created via my post would likely not have happened if any of them had a high-iq rebuttal post that really seemed to carry weight and make sense, or a comment rebuttal like this that actually went anywhere near the depths of my combined post & comments of more pics/clips/details.

So, these users have some options, but this status quo will not fucking persist:

[ And guess what, it’s not a fucking option to say “It’s not even worth my time.” You do not get to leave the types of comments and then fail to elaborate, shutting down all discussion; to call someone a LIAR/RETARDED and then ignore their replies; this behavior is no longer going to be tolerated ]

1. Write a post or comment rebuttal of my stuff with depth near that or equal/greater to that of my full post, pics, clips, and all details in the post and 5 pages comments in their totality
2. Comment that that you read more of the content in the post and comments and no longer stand by your original comment, and that, who knows, MAYBE hitting an area kinda hard 3x a day with a 16oz hammer for several minutes total each day, MAYBE this just happens to be aligned with scar tissue accumulation pathways, such as detailed in the comments. Instead of axiomatically and authoritatively claiming this is leanness or something
3. Get a mod to delete your comment, if you now think this is warranted
4. Fail to be upright and reasonable and go with one of the above 3 options, and instead get harassed for this ridiculous behavior until you do

This business of making STRONG claims, getting REPLIES from me, often with effort, and then DROPPING OFF entirely, will NOT continue

And you as well @Grievous , somehow you were banned literally during this conversation in the other thread linked below

(Pics) Chin becoming uncanny from bonesmashing - here was the mistake (design ur structure right)

Was like this a few weeks ago, @Cheat_Win said to make it wider Here’s wit swelling a few days ago Here’s a natural Chad lower third for reference (Hexum) You see how with Chad structures, the chin aesthetically BLENDS into the mandible? Vs mine which was starting to look SEPARATED and...

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^And yet ur not getting out of this. Respond to me there or here.

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To the tagged users at the top, you seen me talk about kindnessmaxxing and the protagonist pill, wanting to actually be associated tightly with these ideas in this toxic space of jerks and narcs and grifters and useless influencers, etc., and you know the type of person I am. So it’s kind of always a shock that people like these commenters even exist, with such a lack of internal ethics to not feel automatically compelled to proceed with one of the above-outlined 3 legitimate response options that this situation gives them, instead having to have me write this. I just can’t imagine doing anything close to this tbh.

And it isn't like these people are going to be quite like this IRL, of course, but even to be a "normal" person IRL and to then get your kicks from repulsive online behavior seems to betray some sort of real internal depravity; no solid people would do this

But kindnessmaxxers are the future as far as I am concerned, and I want no business with anything resembling these distasteful persons IRL ever; nothing good comes of it in the end. And the times I’ve gotten kinda screwed, I’d seen the general flaws of the person or the specific instances of their unacceptable behavior towards someone in some way, but overlooked it as a fluke or something or thinking similar things would not affect me one day. Yet, they did.
So, as soon as there is the slightest amount of real pettiness, unfairness, unreasonableness, cruelty, dishonesty etc. is shown, and it is NOT some sort of freak occurrence with the absolute strongest extenuating factors of all time, then TOSS THEM into the bin of unreliables and NEVER go back to smell the garbage. Because a decent part of nicemaxxing and enjoying the protagonist pill lifestyle is not letting those with the opposite dispositions encumber us with headaches and complications and mental drains that together only oppose the good we want to do for others in our everyday life.

the cope is being put to an end, because of you spectrum.

either way get the bone scan or whatever tf @Gaygymmaxx maxx is talking about

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

nigga I do not care if u think bonesmashing works
why r u so bent on proving ur shitty cope
I didnt read the last long ass reply u gave nor am I reading this

Yeah, and then ur clogging up high effort threads with high effort comments and replies with your nonsense. Either discourse at the same level or just stay the hell away
Worthless

 

[Orlan]

First of all, I appreciate the effort you put into this post. It’s clear you spent a lot of time documenting everything and actually trying to help people rather than just posting a simple before/after.

I’m trying to fully understand your timeline and consistency because that seems like the biggest factor.

From what I got:

• You started in early 2022, then stopped
• Did a short phase in early 2024, stopped again
• Then May-September 2024 was more serious
• But even after that, in November 2024 you still weren't fully convinced and needed motivation to continue

So I'm a bit confused.

1. During 2022–2024, how inconsistent were you really? Was it mostly on and off rather than daily work?
2. By the end of summer 2024, you said your cheekbones were mostly developed so why were you still doubting in November 2024? Were the results not that obvious at the time?
3. If you had been fully consistent from day one, how long do you think it would take to reach the level you’re at today?

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

First of all, I appreciate the effort you put into this post. It’s clear you spent a lot of time documenting everything and actually trying to help people rather than just posting a simple before/after.

I’m trying to fully understand your timeline and consistency because that seems like the biggest factor.

From what I got:

• You started in early 2022, then stopped
• Did a short phase in early 2024, stopped again
• Then May-September 2024 was more serious
• But even after that, in November 2024 you still weren't fully convinced and needed motivation to continue

So I'm a bit confused.

1. During 2022–2024, how inconsistent were you really? Was it mostly on and off rather than daily work?
2. By the end of summer 2024, you said your cheekbones were mostly developed so why were you still doubting in November 2024? Were the results not that obvious at the time?
3. If you had been fully consistent from day one, how long do you think it would take to reach the level you’re at today?

Awesome, an intelligent reply with questions, love to see it. Will fully respond when I can dedicate more time to it
@Grievous this is what it looks like when a non-worthless person engages in discussion on this site, just FYI

 

[Grievous]

Awesome, an intelligent reply with questions, love to see it. Will fully respond when I can dedicate more time to it
@Grievous this is what it looks like when a non-worthless person engages in discussion on this site, just FYI

hop off my dick u coping retard
im not joining in ur shitty bonesmashing conversation stop tagging me
I dont give a fuck to educate random greys nor do I give a fuck what u do

u fucking jeet

 

[Deleted member 2520]

hop off my dick u coping retard
im not joining in ur shitty bonesmashing conversation stop tagging me
I dont give a fuck to educate random greys nor do I give a fuck what u do

u fucking jeet

 

[acoIyte]

This post isn’t about forward growth at all , besides that I just started to do front of chin to enhance this look

I can hardly find representative side profile pics and this is way back like age 17 and not fully shredded
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What parts of your jaw did you bone smash for more bigonial width?

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

What parts of your jaw did you bone smash for more bigonial width?

This was almost entirely provided by width in the first inch of the ramus starting from down at the jaw corner where it meets with the gonion
About to post about my previous changes and my future areas to hit, if you want to check for it

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

What parts of your jaw did you bone smash for more bigonial width?

read everything tldr bonesmashing isn't cope, lazy chuds hit them asap
i bet many others are lost whether to believe ts actually works or not including myself but this thread shows u gen have nothing to lose and everything to gain, insane ascension insane thread mirin brah

Mirin ur all post, ur doing a good thing by showing off the results of bs to those who are willing to put the effort in also. But it is genuinely impossible to make some of these people ever understand it works. Flat earthers 2.0 jfl and Ik ive kept my results private

definitely not just inflammation or masseter pump. Legit impressive results. Most people end up with asymmetrical swelling, but your definition looks solid. Did you hit the gonions directly or focus on the lateral body of the mandible?

Updated bonesmashing plan now

Thread '(Pics) CURRENT BONESMASHING PLAN | Phase 2 of 2026 | Challenges & Horrible Timing'
https://looksmax.org/threads/pics-c...2-of-2026-challenges-horrible-timing.1968562/

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Ok mate lemme get back to your comment now before I go finish the first YT vid haha

First of all, I appreciate the effort you put into this post. It’s clear you spent a lot of time documenting everything and actually trying to help people rather than just posting a simple before/after.

Credibility of volume of before afters is what this method lacks, but with dozens of people trying my plan now this should change soon

I’m trying to fully understand your timeline and consistency because that seems like the biggest factor.

From what I got:

• You started in early 2022, then stopped
• Did a short phase in early 2024, stopped again
• Then May-September 2024 was more serious
• But even after that, in November 2024 you still weren't fully convinced and needed motivation to continue

I think this is roughly the case
There’s parts hard for me to remember since I didn’t have notes at the time or take it as the serious business I do now

So I'm a bit confused.

1. During 2022–2024, how inconsistent were you really? Was it mostly on and off rather than daily work?

2022 I think was a few times per week but with rest days (horrible for results, only spot that possibly needs it is cheekbones), and I think I did it half-assed from like Feb thru the summer
Closer to on off then daily
The 2024 period was almost all cheekbones and I did them maybe nightly or every other night or every 2 nights (not ideal) from like May thru July, and the brief stint in like March for only a little bit
(Your number questions are all formatting to #1 btw with the way I’m breaking up your comment)

1. By the end of summer 2024, you said your cheekbones were mostly developed so why were you still doubting in November 2024? Were the results not that obvious at the time?

You know, I probably should have specified my doubt in each specific phase; this was mostly for the early days of it. In later 2024, I saw my cheekbones had gotten kind of overdone at that point and I knew I grew them from that for sure.
However, I had stopped due to the feature myopia effect I always talk abt (@Seeyenar), where guys only focus on one weakness or area or procedure and ignore other obvious flaws and opportunities
So somehow I didn’t realize the jaw corners work that was needed and possible chin work as well; since I had finished cheekbones, I thought i was kinda done with bonesmashing, since I was actually that blind haha

And this is from someone who had been on the forum for a couple years lol. But every year I look back at how stupid I used to be on some looks stuff, and thing is, I bet I’ll be doing it next year about the present yet again

1. If you had been fully consistent from day one, how long do you think it would take to reach the level you’re at today?

Well the lower ramus width was 2.5mo. Not yet sure if I will add more
So it seems I could have gone from flat to ideal cheekbones [hitting them way more intentionally and targeted, only the upper or middle parts and never lateral in my case] in a similar time frame perhaps
And the bottom of chin that was shorter on one side, this seemed to change pretty rapidly when I really began focusing on it properly, so probably similar for that

And so things like straightening the jaw profile from the antegonial notch center and outward as shown in my new strategy post, based on 2026 anecdotal experience, it seems under 3mo can yield major changes, but we will see for sure

I’d give ANYTHING to have done this consistently at like 18 and to have been on GLPs and always shredded

I’m just a guy trying to pick up the pieces and build the best life I can


Let me know if this answers things as you had hoped or other questions

Because, apart from the worthless trolls and jerks on the site, those asking actual questions who lead me to share more info or clarifications in the comments, they are adding value for everyone

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Ok mate lemme get back to your comment now before I go finish the first YT vid haha

Credibility of volume of before afters is what this method lacks, but with dozens of people trying my plan now this should change soon

I think this is roughly the case
There’s parts hard for me to remember since I didn’t have notes at the time or take it as the serious business I do now

2022 I think was a few times per week but with rest days (horrible for results, only spot that possibly needs it is cheekbones), and I think I did it half-assed from like Feb thru the summer
Closer to on off then daily
The 2024 period was almost all cheekbones and I did them maybe nightly or every other night or every 2 nights (not ideal) from like May thru July, and the brief stint in like March for only a little bit
(Your number questions are all formatting to #1 btw with the way I’m breaking up your comment)

You know, I probably should have specified my doubt in each specific phase; this was mostly for the early days of it. In later 2024, I saw my cheekbones had gotten kind of overdone at that point and I knew I grew them from that for sure.
However, I had stopped due to the feature myopia effect I always talk abt (@Seeyenar), where guys only focus on one weakness or area or procedure and ignore other obvious flaws and opportunities
So somehow I didn’t realize the jaw corners work that was needed and possible chin work as well; since I had finished cheekbones, I thought i was kinda done with bonesmashing, since I was actually that blind haha

And this is from someone who had been on the forum for a couple years lol. But every year I look back at how stupid I used to be on some looks stuff, and thing is, I bet I’ll be doing it next year about the present yet again

Well the lower ramus width was 2.5mo. Not yet sure if I will add more
So it seems I could have gone from flat to ideal cheekbones [hitting them way more intentionally and targeted, only the upper or middle parts and never lateral in my case] in a similar time frame perhaps
And the bottom of chin that was shorter on one side, this seemed to change pretty rapidly when I really began focusing on it properly, so probably similar for that

And so things like straightening the jaw profile from the antegonial notch center and outward as shown in my new strategy post, based on 2026 anecdotal experience, it seems under 3mo can yield major changes, but we will see for sure

I’d give ANYTHING to have done this consistently at like 18 and to have been on GLPs and always shredded

I’m just a guy trying to pick up the pieces and build the best life I can


Let me know if this answers things as you had hoped or other questions

Because, apart from the worthless trolls and jerks on the site, those asking actual questions who lead me to share more info or clarifications in the comments, they are adding value for everyone

@eyezen more details on my early stages of this

 

[Orlan]

Ok mate lemme get back to your comment now before I go finish the first YT vid haha

Credibility of volume of before afters is what this method lacks, but with dozens of people trying my plan now this should change soon

I think this is roughly the case
There’s parts hard for me to remember since I didn’t have notes at the time or take it as the serious business I do now

2022 I think was a few times per week but with rest days (horrible for results, only spot that possibly needs it is cheekbones), and I think I did it half-assed from like Feb thru the summer
Closer to on off then daily
The 2024 period was almost all cheekbones and I did them maybe nightly or every other night or every 2 nights (not ideal) from like May thru July, and the brief stint in like March for only a little bit
(Your number questions are all formatting to #1 btw with the way I’m breaking up your comment)

You know, I probably should have specified my doubt in each specific phase; this was mostly for the early days of it. In later 2024, I saw my cheekbones had gotten kind of overdone at that point and I knew I grew them from that for sure.
However, I had stopped due to the feature myopia effect I always talk abt (@Seeyenar), where guys only focus on one weakness or area or procedure and ignore other obvious flaws and opportunities
So somehow I didn’t realize the jaw corners work that was needed and possible chin work as well; since I had finished cheekbones, I thought i was kinda done with bonesmashing, since I was actually that blind haha

And this is from someone who had been on the forum for a couple years lol. But every year I look back at how stupid I used to be on some looks stuff, and thing is, I bet I’ll be doing it next year about the present yet again

Well the lower ramus width was 2.5mo. Not yet sure if I will add more
So it seems I could have gone from flat to ideal cheekbones [hitting them way more intentionally and targeted, only the upper or middle parts and never lateral in my case] in a similar time frame perhaps
And the bottom of chin that was shorter on one side, this seemed to change pretty rapidly when I really began focusing on it properly, so probably similar for that

And so things like straightening the jaw profile from the antegonial notch center and outward as shown in my new strategy post, based on 2026 anecdotal experience, it seems under 3mo can yield major changes, but we will see for sure

I’d give ANYTHING to have done this consistently at like 18 and to have been on GLPs and always shredded

I’m just a guy trying to pick up the pieces and build the best life I can


Let me know if this answers things as you had hoped or other questions

Because, apart from the worthless trolls and jerks on the site, those asking actual questions who lead me to share more info or clarifications in the comments, they are adding value for everyone

Yeah, this clears up almost everything for me thanks for taking the time to explain.

Honestly, when I read up on how bone responds to trauma and mechanical stress, it actually gives scientific context to what you’re describing.

When a bone and especially the periosteum (the outer layer of bone) gets injured in certain ways, it can kick off biological processes that actually build new bone, not just fix the damage.
The traumatic bone: trauma-induced heterotopic ossification

There are cases where blood that collected under the periosteum after an injury actually turned into new bone over time.
Ossification of subperiosteal hematoma: the potential of periosteal osteogenesis in cranioplasty

Also, the periosteum is actually active throughout life and can make new bone cells whenever it’s stressed or injured.
The Role of the Periosteum in Bone Formation From Adolescence to Old Age

And mechanobiology research shows that the mechanical environment can actually direct bone formation on the outer surfaces of bones
Mechanobiology of Bone Tissue and Bone Cells

In a rat study, hitting the skull lightly but repeatedly actually made the bone thicker and stronger in the exact spots that got hit. The changes built up over time, showing that bone can adapt to repeated mild impacts.
Localized, time-dependent responses of rat cranial bone


All of this doesn’t prove bonesmashing works exactly like advertised, but it definitely makes the concept biologically plausible and I can see why your results make sense in that context.

 

[Galvatron]

One of my favourite threads oat

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

https://looksmax.org/threads/i-want...d-the-protagonist-pill.1970678/#post-27429846
^Apply this or you do not deserve to ascend

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Yeah, this clears up almost everything for me thanks for taking the time to explain.

Honestly, when I read up on how bone responds to trauma and mechanical stress, it actually gives scientific context to what you’re describing.

When a bone and especially the periosteum (the outer layer of bone) gets injured in certain ways, it can kick off biological processes that actually build new bone, not just fix the damage.
The traumatic bone: trauma-induced heterotopic ossification

There are cases where blood that collected under the periosteum after an injury actually turned into new bone over time.
Ossification of subperiosteal hematoma: the potential of periosteal osteogenesis in cranioplasty

Also, the periosteum is actually active throughout life and can make new bone cells whenever it’s stressed or injured.
The Role of the Periosteum in Bone Formation From Adolescence to Old Age

And mechanobiology research shows that the mechanical environment can actually direct bone formation on the outer surfaces of bones
Mechanobiology of Bone Tissue and Bone Cells

In a rat study, hitting the skull lightly but repeatedly actually made the bone thicker and stronger in the exact spots that got hit. The changes built up over time, showing that bone can adapt to repeated mild impacts.
Localized, time-dependent responses of rat cranial bone


All of this doesn’t prove bonesmashing works exactly like advertised, but it definitely makes the concept biologically plausible and I can see why your results make sense in that context.

Love it, are you in the Skool group? Need help with AI research on some of these intricacies etc., thx for sharing these
Really wonder what is collagenous dense scar tissue matrix vs. actual bone

 

[Orlan]

Love it, are you in the Skool group? Need help with AI research on some of these intricacies etc., thx for sharing these

I’m not in the Skool group, but I’d love to help if I can.

Really wonder what is collagenous dense scar tissue matrix vs. actual bone

Probably it’s a bit of both.
A timeseries analysis of the fracture callus extracellular matrix proteome during bone fracture healing

In this research, there’s a clear timeline where an initial soft callus (collagen rich tissue) forms first, then mineralizes into hard bone, and eventually remodels into mature bone.

Of course, that study is on fracture healing, not repeated impacts like bonesmashing, so it’s not a 1:1 comparison. But it still clearly shows the underlying biology, soft tissue forming first and then mineralizing into real bone. I believe a similar process happens with bonesmashing.

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

I’m not in the Skool group, but I’d love to help if I can.


Probably it’s a bit of both.
A timeseries analysis of the fracture callus extracellular matrix proteome during bone fracture healing

In this research, there’s a clear timeline where an initial soft callus (collagen rich tissue) forms first, then mineralizes into hard bone, and eventually remodels into mature bone.

Of course, that study is on fracture healing, not repeated impacts like bonesmashing, so it’s not a 1:1 comparison. But it still clearly shows the underlying biology, soft tissue forming first and then mineralizing into real bone. I believe a similar process happens with bonesmashing.

Fuk, this would be so helpful if you could post on that and dig into it more, here will dm link

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Physique right now

(PICS) Me MUSCULAR w/ NO face before | VS | FACE but NO muscle NOW | What should I do?

Current weight is around 125lb/57kg. Bodyfat probably 8.5-9%, and perma-debloated. True protatonist-pill kindnessmaxxer --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Social experience in muscle/no face scenario vs. now: Then: During the whole...

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Also

Straightmaxxing the notch was 100% the correct focus for the next phase of bonesmashing if you’ve seen that thread, with the swelling there immediately ascending me to new heights

Just fucking lol at some of the people here.

With the intelligent experimenters I’ve been able to connect with who’ve shown me their great results as well, and with social media launch, it will soon seem like such a joke how badly the normie mind just collapsed at the reality of this working and did not how how to cope

Just because failed looksmaxxers like Clav (whose goal was I guess to just stay a bloated 6.5 but with more access to 6-7 range girls than before, and usually closer to the lower end of that range) failed at bonesmashing and say it is only for swelling does not mean it doesn’t work (and yes I have a thread on this as well)

 

[fraudster#1]

def my favourite thread

 

[TrueGuerilla]

Thoughts on massager gun for BS? Of course, blunt items too, but the vibrations have shown greater bone growth response in some studies iirc

 

[Daddy's Home]

How bro is feeling after debloated, getting leaner and cheek biting in after photos..

6 pages for this shit it's crazy..

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

How bro is feeling after debloated, getting leaner and cheek biting in after photos..

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6 pages for this shit it's crazy..

I mean if you want reference points, the chin changes and cheekbone changes are the most blatant

I mean cheekbones were simply not protruding laterally into covering the ears before like now

if these get denied idk what to say really; filler accusations are one thing (but then prob not a good idea that I have vids hitting areas hard, might dislodge or something), but no structural changes just gets crazy, especially when addressing bodyfat stuff in post and comments

When those are jaw corners shredded in I think Oct 25 abovevery inward sloping and narrower but still follows, and a zoomed shot from a non distorted front cam vid feet away, then if this isn’t apparent nothing will

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Thoughts on massager gun for BS? Of course, blunt items too, but the vibrations have shown greater bone growth response in some studies iirc

Probably just scar tissue who knows unless someone does before after scans but haven’t looked into thr massage gun much
Someone doing deep AI research on it would be helpful since this keeps coming up

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Starvemaxxing

The post 2 days ago: https://looksmax.org/threads/pics-i-am-so-shredded-and-it-is-hell-on-earth-every-day-starvemaxxing-is-lifemaxxing.1974237/ --------------------------------------------------------- This is SpectrumAesthetics3 I'm not superhuman I'm just a guy trying his...

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[TrueGuerilla]

Probably just scar tissue who knows unless someone does before after scans but haven’t looked into thr massage gun much
Someone doing deep AI research on it would be helpful since this keeps coming up

It does make you swollen faster I'll give you that. The pain is decent but the repeated hits are good. @fletchzilla does the same thing and recommend gun massager for BS.

Also what would be good to use for hitting your infras?

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

It does make you swollen faster I'll give you that. The pain is decent but the repeated hits are good. @fletchzilla does the same thing and recommend gun massager for BS.

Also what would be good to use for hitting your infras?

Wish I had really done infras but I just don’t have much experience
Getting too close to that area is where I got the underlying tissue damage of some sort

 

[truemeatlet]

*This is a repost with permission – old one got deleted yesterday due to me having had other bonesmashing transformation posts in my history already. Shoutout to @Aryan Incel for getting them deleted so that I could repost this without violating any rules.
Because those posts were more basic before-afters. Whereas this is a definitive documentation of my face changes over 5 years and 5 periods of bonesmashing with commentary on the timeline and what I was doing and is a lot more valuable for people to see. This took many hours to compile.
Goals: promote real discussion; making this a legit method people are willing to try so they can get changes like me, Androgenic, Blake Speaks, and other users

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There are 4 main types of copers/deniers here that will be destroyed: ​

-1: "You just got leaner". Laughably proven false with shredded physique pics at different stages below where I was still boneless or had only developed one area

-2. "There are no real changes". Idek what to say to this lmao

-3. "Filler". Ig this can't be totally debunked. Yet, I grew my cheekbones and chin and jaw at DIFFERENT TIMES; wouldn't any non-retarded aesthetician, when consulting with me, tell me to do multiple areas at once for balance? Further, the unevenness at the bottom of my chin, which was blatant before and minimal now: why would I have waited to fill that for so long?
Second to last, pics from after making my cheekbones wider but while jaw was still narrow are included and look so uncanny: why would a professional let me fill the sides of them and kill my ratios like this? Also, permanent skin damage about the submalar area which isn't in the before pics and which is shown at the end.
And last, these changes were so gradual with so many pics as points of reference that it would have required like 10+ tiny filler sessions to fraud this so incrementally; even @Cheat_Win accumulated his insane lower third results with less sessions than this.

-4. "Puberty changes", "changes from PED androgenicity", etc. -Clearly not my case, starting this at 19, having different bones develop at different times depending on when I focused on them, gains coming mostly after PEDs, etc. And jaw corners changes almost entirely being within the last 2 months at age 23.

That being said, if you want to believe this is in some way faked, then idk what to say: but why should a way higher burden of proof be placed on this than on other posts on this site? Just because few have done this long enough and properly so as to get results? It says something that Androgenic and Blake Speaks are s-tier intellects in this space and are really the few to advocate for the efficacy of this. Though this likely works via scar tissue deposition accumulation and not subperiostal hematoma ossification

I am open to thoughtful users wanting to try to attribute my results to other things; I am not to those who arrogantly want to shut down discussion. Isn't the purpose of this an intellectually-humble scientific-mindset approach to looks improvement? Anyone thinking they can a priori "debunk" bonesmashing, because it is just "too crazy", does not have the type of open-mindedness needed to accomplish anything and will be behind the curve on things

I am getting a bunch of interested people to run my exact protocol so there will soon be an abundance of success case studies and this will be in the same respectability bucket, at least in the looksmax space, as going to the gym to build muscle

Should you do filler etc. instead?
I'm glad how this worked out for me and it it nice that, whether it is ossification via subperiostal hematomas or just hard scar tissue deposition buildup, that it feels like "my" bones and is permanent, but fillers ofc work.

As far as the time issue, even though this whole progression below SPANS ALMOST 5 YEARS, I was only doing this, let alone doing it properly, for a fraction of this period; I'm confident gains can be made in months since I have done this for chin and cheekbones and now jaw in the more productive periods of this.

Asymmetry: in my case I used it to FIX my chin asymmetry, and my jaw corners asymmetry, with strategically addressing it rn, is getting more and more balanced as well. Of all the possible risks and issues that come along with this, asymmetry isn't near the top imo.


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START. Late 2021, before any bonesmashing. 5.5-6/10 looks. Not a great baseline.​

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Narrow and pointier chin with clear unevenness at the bottom. Low cheekbone mass. Undefined jaw corner area with the ramus and gonions not wide enough for an aesthetic lower third.
-used FaceApp beard “shaven” filter to remove a little scruffy facial hair in some of these pics so it does not obscure the bone structure situation at all

Physique at the time. Since we are fully dismantling ALL copes: including “you just got leaner” and “filler” and all else:

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Now, even if I have been slightly less lean than this at times in recent months, my chin mass and cheekbones and lower third are still way more prominent and defined; here, I was relatively boneless even at this bodyfat due to these areas just not being that developed. More shredded boneless pics later.


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PHASE 1/5 BONESMASHING, early 2022 (around Feburary-July):​

Find out about bonesmashing through some combo of mewing content (maybe the mewing subreddit iirc) and Indigenous Swiss on YouTube (now deleted) – basically the only guy discussing it and with vids on it.

He claimed results from it and sold a couple courses related to it which I purchased. Since for one reason or another he seemed to want to erase himself from the internet, I won’t be sharing his transformation pics or books. But this was my start.

Bonesmashed for several months starting sometime early 2022: chin all over, cheekbones all over, jaw all over (including the mandible body itself, which I don’t recommend.

I WAS BLOATED TO HELL ON ROIDS (maybe a 4/10 or 5/10). I've been legit high-sub5 before, horrible face and bad skin in some moments. Generally like 15% bodyfat and lots of water retention from both diet and the PEDs. Thus, I could not fully see my underlying structure and ratios and what areas to really work on and how. I was hitting all over the cheekbones: not just the middle/upper parts, but the bottom too and the outer sides, leading to them in the present being a bit more bulbous/lower and WIDER than is ideal, hurting my harmony a bit. And, with my lower third width work only really starting at the beginning of 2026, my narrower lower third relative to the cheekbones was a harmony issue for sure.

-unattractive normie disaster with poor skin, totally invisible to girls, looking way older than my age at the time, etc.:
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STOPPED this first run of bonesmashing near the end of summer 2022: I think I was still too bloated to really see results / if they were happening and was discouraged. “Am I fucking insane/retarded for doing this? Is this a ridiculous cope that I’ve been spending a few mins on most days per week for months now?”

From this first run of bonesmashing, I developed some cheekbone mass and width (as revealed when leaner) but not noticeable changes on chin/jaw. I was overall doing it about every other day or every 2 days per Wolff’s Law-based ideas about this at the time – and I think this is dramatically inferior to doing daily, even if the sessions were longer and with harder hits. And also, the suboptimal frequency notwithstanding, I think this stuff also just takes TIME.

*Since cheekbones pool so well and don't recover right away, it seems they are the bone that can grow with lower frequency whereas if you keep letting the swelling on other spots die down between sessions then idk if you will get results efficiently or at all*

So, from late summer 2022 when I stopped phase 1 to early 2024 when phase 2 began, I didn’t do it.

SUMMER 2023, when I was slightly less bloated than usual but still like 11-12% and with PEDs bloat. LOOK HOW WIDE MY CHEEKBONES ARE WTF (also I think I had done a one-off bonesmashing session all over a couple days before for pump swelling purposes, so I think my chin was slightly more prominent-looking in these than it really was at the time around then):
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I'm like 6/10 in these at most rly

Vs. late 2021 below again before any bonesmashing...
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Again, this is SERIOUS stuff when it can’t be dissolved like filler, so you need to be SHREDDED so you fully see what you are doing and need to be very aware of how your ratios/features stand, etc.

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PHASE 2/5 of BONESMASHING:​

EARLY 2024 was the SECOND phase of bonesmashing. I don’t think it lasted very long: maybe a few weeks. I did cheekbones again and focused more on chin. I still wasn’t aware enough of how to objectively assess my needs in order to realize that squaring up the gonions-ramus area should have been a major priority, but I think I still targeted this area some.

Why did I stop again? Even though the swelling pump is motivating, I again wondered if I was crazy, if this was cope, etc. What a HUGE DISADVANTAGE to be double-minded about this during every session and to be unable to fully put your heart into the endeavor, not knowing if it is at all worthwhile. When enough people have proven results and this is considered a giga-legit method, then people can skip this start-stop madness that, if I had persisted through from the beginning, could have allowed for me to develop my current bone structure YEARS earlier.

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THIRD PHASE OF BONESMASHING:​

May-September 2024. I worked further mostly on cheekbones and a little bit of chin. This was where I fully finished developing cheekbones to where they are today. Lower third I again still under-focused on. Was minimal with chin as well.

So, it was mostly about my cheekbones. If you aren’t objectively assessing your appearance, then it is easy to have a NARROW VISION when seeing yourself in the mirror, focusing only on one feature that is weak or strong and ignoring other weak points and overall harmony. BE SMARTER THAN THIS. (Ie I've even had trash hairstyles and only realized it way later)

Protocol then: about EOD cheekbones due to the high level of swelling and skin irritation not allowing for daily. Did for a few mins during sessions but not sure exactly of sets/reps, but they ranged from like 30 hard hits to 100 medium hits, roughly.

END OF SUMMER 2024


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Cheekbones still too wide relative to the underdeveloped lower third. Chin seems slightly better than in 2021 but still a bit uneven on bottom. When lean enough, cheekbones were a decently strong feature at this point. Physique is included to thoroughly dismantle “oh your results are just from being leaner”. I was shredded and debloated here.
Around a 7/10 on my absolute best days and with BB cream and Lumify drops frauds

August 2024: cheekbones showing through despite being relatively bloated in the pic (GLP drugs totally changed my life in 2025-onward btw). Yes, there is swelling in this pic, but the real underlying growth was mostly permanent.

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GODSEND MOMENT. November 2024 iirc, a CRUCIAL moment: talking with yyamann, who later became St.Rotter, on here, because he had posted a bonesmashing full-face before-after with incredible changes. He showed me privately far more pics and clips demonstrating his incredible transformation. He was more boneless than me to begin with and heavily heavily developed his chin, jaw corners, and cheekbones. In fact, he kind of overdid his cheekbones like I did– one special use case tool to see something more objectively is to use the FaceApp gender swap to female, and his female version had CRAZY big cheekbones that almost looked fake.
^SO, TAKE NOTES: CHEEKBONES ARE THE EASIEST SPOT TO OVERDO!! His were overdone anteriorly and not laterally really, unlike mine
His program: I wish we had talked more specifically, but he said he did it every day for two years. Multiple times a day. Don’t remember if he talked about fists vs. hammer or more particulars on intensity, volume, and so forth: but what I remember is he went hard multiple time a day for two years, desperate to ascend a below-average face, and WOW were the changes insane. Squared up superman chad jaw. Ltn to either high HTN or low chadlite, with insane bone structure and with other minor maxxes surely chadlite.
HE GAVE ME HOPE TO START AGAIN. What this method is missing is ENOUGH CLEAR BEFORE-AFTERS such that people are convinced it works! Talking to him in private affirmed that my cheekbone gains to that point were not somehow placebo and that this was a legitimate method for those doing it properly and consistently for long enough. Though for some reason I think I wasn’t really consistent again until like February 2025 maybe.

Dec 2024 lean and debloated. Cheekbones are where they are now since I haven’t trained them since then, chin is decent, but it is the jaw corners, the ramus-gonions area, that is still too narrow and undefined and holding me back (and smiling with this expression made it look its best, if anything)…
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Which leads us to:

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PHASE 4 OF BONESMASHING,​

from about February-May 2025. I did more chin and then some jaw corners as well. A key thing was focusing on the chin corners, which I remember doing in May for width.
In Feb-March, I was doing this maybe EOD or every 2 days; in May, focusing mainly on chin corners, I was doing daily generally. I think in phase 4, my jaw corners may have gotten just slightly less narrow and that my chin width improved a little bit; but there were not other gains from this run of it besides this.

Left, June 2025, maybe 12-14%, debloated here. Right, July, 2025 about 12% bodyfat and debloated. While my 3/4ths had been the strongest angle in most lightings for a long time, some pics like this revealed the weakness of the jaw corners.
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COMMON THEME FOR REST OF 2025 PICS: Strong cheekbones, good chin, weak jaw corners. This is why I almost never took pics STRAIGHT ON, hating how rounded the lower third looked and how narrow relative to the cheekbones. Most of my pics are a slight look to the side like above as well as 3/4ths profile.


Mid July 2025, 11ish% bodyfat and debloated; similar deal, avoiding front angle pics because they revealed the poor lower third.

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August 2025, shredded at roughly 10% bodyfat and debloated, FINALLY a front pic: with this leanness and skin and general harmony and cheekbones, I was already low HTN I think (still in HTN range at present) but my lower third corners continued to hold me back from better aesthetics.

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^I’m not actually that badly recessed, but this is a down angle. Side profile way stronger than front by hiding the jaw corners weakness.
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Sept 11 2025 physique pic: I am shredded and debloated. So it becomes clear that my limiting factors face-wise at this point are structure-related with leanness-related improvements no longer really on the table. Hard capped at around 7/10 on my best days before starting jaw corners work to square ts up

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^I AM REALLY LEAN, but the lower third is NOT what it is now, still VERY inward-sloped corners. This is why it is NOT an option for copers to say that the difference was getting leaner JFL. If they want to claim filler, then so be it (but again at least apply this to anyone claiming results from any experiment here and not just this)

Mid Oct 2025. Around a 6.5 on worse days or 7/10 on best days (fluctuate a lot based on sleep, bloat, inflammation, skin, etc.):
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^Those 2 pics the same day, same story: could look good in some off-center pics, but destroyed in most straight-on ones with these inward jaw corners. Which also required me to be way leaner than I would have had to otherwise in order to have some hollows.

Late Oct 2025: Starting becoming too apparent that no amount of leanmaxxing would suddenly make the jaw corner area better atp


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^(bottom right pic above) You know how occasionally you have a picture that looks way better than you actually looked when looking back? This was one of those where by jaw corners look probably the best they have in any picture due to the combo of lighting and angle and luck in this pic. Yet, STILL pretty poor and sloping inward etc.

Mid Nov 2025: showing how unbalanced the cheekbones-lower third proportion is


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Lower third still trash. The few straight-on pics made this SO OBVIOUS that it became the next imminent looksmax when I took time at the end of the year to evaluate looks improvement opportunities…

END OF DECEMBER 2025: Evaluating different maxxes and weakness, I began trying to morph better jaw corners, and these imperfect morphs below helped me FINALLY see that I could ascend by improving this area:

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If you aren't taking time every now and then to step back and objectively see what looksmax opportunities you are overlooking, then you will be clumsy and slow with many maxxes as I was over the years. Use AI especially Claude for objective analysis; it is surprisingly based in pointing you to implants etc. vs. soft advice from Chat

So, this leads us to the present…–


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PHASE 5 OF BONESMASHING: JAN 1 2026-PRESENT (March 2 2026 as of now)​

Determined to square up/widen my jaw corners and ascend as hard as possible. To surpass the 7/10 cap. Incredible how oblivious I was to this, maybe in part thinking that constantly being even leaner would ascend this area even though I had kind of pushed this to the limit already.

From the night of Jan 1st, the swelling in the jaw corners already helped provide some temporary width and revealed how much better I was going to look as I grew this area
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^I took multiple pics after my early sessions because the swelling making my bone structure look better than ever before was such lifefuel.


^Vid I posted Jan 4th with some swelling as part of this post:
https://looksmax.org/threads/vid-pics-masseter-vs-gonial-bone-growth-for-me-to-ascend.1811056/
Still poor jaw corners even with the early swelling since this swelling mass was occurring on top of so narrow and poor a base


Late Jan 2026: Likely some scar tissue accumulating in the jaw corners already since the lower third started already looking consistently better than before in just a month in addition to the swelling
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^Unfortunately my nose is extremely prone to big swelling swings based on things like histamine, salt/bloat, inflammation, heat, blood pressure, etc.

Began hitting the front of chin as well at some point in Feb for more forward projection. (don't think there are really significant permanent gains in this spot yet)

Mid Feb 2026

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In the shower when using cleanser on face, I began to notice and feel a hard mass around the lower part of the ramus, so permanent scar tissue gains are already happening, in addition to the fact that the swelling looks far better than it did early Jan 2026 (why? because having real underlying growth + swelling means more mass than when you start and your swelling is on top of a lesser bone baseline)

Doing this twice a day morning and night has been a game changer in order to keep swelling and inflammation going; no ridiculous 2-day rest and then resetting progress it seems etc.


Later Feb
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YESTERDAY, MARCH 2 2026​

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Bonus: permanent underlying tissue or vascular damage in the submalar area from going too far inward/near the nose with the hammer when doing cheekbones. Is too soft-tissue dominant and so can't really even grow anyways.

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How to do this:

-DAILY hits, TWICE daily morning and night; cheekbones swell so much that this high frequency to keep pooling alive may not be as needed with them; don't take it too far where there's so much blood pooling and the skin bursts and then you can't hit them for days thereafter

-HAMMER not fists, 16oz not 8oz so the weight makes it easier and better, COMPLETELY FLAT SMOOTH HEAD since your skin will get KILLED if there is any unevenness or scratches. I had this heavy steel ball thing for chin corners, and this allowed to hit more specifically since a hammer head is way too wide to target exactly what you need for that spot. ie- amazon link to the type iirc

-since it is either scar tissue buildup or subperiostal hematoma ossification (unlikely), do medium or soft hits; no head-jostling skin-damaging hard hits needed. I'm doing closer to medium or slightly harder at night and lighter in the morning

-3-5 sets per spot per session, 50-100 reps is what I am doing and have often done when getting results. ie a cheekbone set could be 100 reps moving across it side to side or slightly up and down (don't recommend hitting bottom part of it, made mine a little too bulbous and lower and not fully ideal end shape)

-knowing where to hit: FaceApp morphs of yourself, Claude prompts (say you are getting filler to become as model-tier as possible, don't bother explaining the real mechanism. it is surprisingly objective in helping even with hardmaxxes and stuff). Being truly SHREDDED and debloated so you FULLY know where your bone structure stands and don't have a distorted end result when you finally do get lean to reveal changes. Being shredded for the months ending 2025 helped me fully see that my jaw corners needed work, no copes.
+ To an extent using swelling as a guide, seeing how swelling certain areas in certain ways alters your look; a decent but not 100% perfect proxy of future results (and if it is uncanny you also may have hit too hard/long and the high swelling is the issue, not growth on the bone for you in general)

-Supplements: vitamins d3, k2, c; magnesium; calcium (in case this is actual bone growth mechanisms); possibly collagen; etc. Many of these are in multivitamins but I take more magnesium and calcium to hit 100%DV and have a dedicated d3/k2 supp as well

-Skin damage: using a layer of beef tallow for skin or something on spots you hit; trying to avoid friction with the hammer head and using "quick" hits in a way hard to fully explain; I'm doing lots of topical GHK-CU on jaw corners to try to prevent too much skin damage from accumulating and screwing me like with that submalar area

-Hitting ramus/gonions without masseter interference: gonions are the under side of the jaw corner and are easier, and you can do them from straight under or like 45 degrees; I'm not really doing them because the swelling squares me in a blocky way that seems to look bad. I'm mainly doing the first 3/4ths of an inch of the ramus, mainly the lower part of this range starting down by the jaw corner point going up n down. To avoid masseter blocking, be shredded, turn head to side a bit, neck forward and jutting lower jaw, teeth/jaws apart a bit, and duck face to make skin more taut. These are nuances hard to fully explain that you kind of have to figure out

yo can u show video of how you do it ?

 

[truemeatlet]

Holy fucking yap

So much obsession over what is clearly no change to the underlying bone structure and just you frauding with lip pucker and clenching and angles and lighting and perhaps inflammation from hitting your face repeatedly with a fucking hammer

Fuck knows maybe you even got filler or implants and are just larping results from muh bonesmashing

If you truly wanted to document results you’d post before / after CT scans, completely unfrauded unpuckered unclenched video of you rotating in motion etc

Stop giving naive vulnerable teens false hope and sending them down such a retarded time wasting cope path, aka those who desperately need to take action NOW to save up for osteotomies and implants which is the only true fix for their dogshit bones before the agepill reaper takes them

Whether you dnr or reply with another long yap I really don’t care, I know someone this deep into the larp / fraud / delusion isn’t going to budge, just putting my 2 cents out there and dipping

stupid retard just saying "muh even if u debunk idc"

 

[ND true apollo]

bump

 

[Looxmaxzer]

Mirin' I got some decent chin gains from bonesmashing for a few months on n off at the same bodyfat level I was 78-80 kg in the beginning I'm still around this weight with no muscle gain, idk why the normies deny bs
Before: (few months ago/end of December)

After: now/rn (also bonesmashed my ramus consistently)

From the front
Before:

After/now:

Shi clearly works
And ts js a few months of doing it about 1-2 times a day sometimes once In two days

 

[Looxmaxzer]

everyone saying bonesmashing is cope is just a little boy whos to scared to do it there is litteral scientific evidence to back it up(RAP), it does not create bone tho, just tissue.

Def created bone for me ngl

 

[Dolorous]

thanks for the ultra high-effort post @SpectrumAesthetics3. i'll read more closely when i get the chance. i also want to express my gratitude for your post about keeping everything positive in this space. we really need more people with that mindset. if i have any questions i trust that you'll respond with good faith. JFL at that guy with the Code Geass pfp, just being a douche for no reason

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Mirin' I got some decent chin gains from bonesmashing for a few months on n off at the same bodyfat level I was 78-80 kg in the beginning I'm still around this weight with no muscle gain, idk why the normies deny bs
Before: (few months ago/end of December)
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After: now/rn (also bonesmashed my ramus consistently)
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From the front
Before:
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After/now:
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Shi clearly works
And ts js a few months of doing it about 1-2 times a day sometimes once In two days

Love this, if ur in the Skool you should post about this
You are where I was a few months ago where ramus changes and gonions and mandible in general will take you to a new level

Looks a lot leaner too which is great

 

[Looxmaxzer]

Love this, if ur in the Skool you should post about this
You are where I was a few months ago where ramus changes and gonions and mandible in general will take you to a new level

Looks a lot leaner too which is great

ye I'm in the skool now
I'm gonna post about it after the site lets me also I got a ton of cheekbone gains but that's a given
I was more worried about the lower third for these past few months

 

[Looxmaxzer]

ye I'm in the skool now
I'm gonna post about it after the site lets me also I got a ton of cheekbone gains but that's a given
I was more worried about the lower third for these past few months

Also I deadass did not get leaner I'm at the same weight unfortunately
I js learned how to mew better x bonesmashing
Will get leaner this month though for sure

 

[meiwei]

Skool

 

[abnorr]

Cool thread, but i don't understand the logic of taking vitamin d3/k2/calcium when u take these supplements u do opposite u make ur bones more stronger so they would not break right? But u should break/fracture ur bones so they would make stronger/bigger when u healing

 

[Topkra]

Mirin' I got some decent chin gains from bonesmashing for a few months on n off at the same bodyfat level I was 78-80 kg in the beginning I'm still around this weight with no muscle gain, idk why the normies deny bs
Before: (few months ago/end of December)
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After: now/rn (also bonesmashed my ramus consistently)
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From the front
Before:
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After/now:
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Shi clearly works
And ts js a few months of doing it about 1-2 times a day sometimes once In two days

How did you smash your chin? It is wrapped with muscle as far as i know

 

[Dolorous]

How did you smash your chin? It is wrapped with muscle as far as i know

Wondering same thing

 

[Looxmaxzer]

How did you smash your chin? It is wrapped with muscle as far as i know

Bro what

 

[Looxmaxzer]

How did you smash your chin? It is wrapped with muscle as far as i know

Just hit it with a hammer

 

[Looxmaxzer]

Cool thread, but i don't understand the logic of taking vitamin d3/k2/calcium when u take these supplements u do opposite u make ur bones more stronger so they would not break right? But u should break/fracture ur bones so they would make stronger/bigger when u healing

Nigga

 

[blamejewsjfl]

*This is a repost with permission – old one got deleted yesterday due to me having had other bonesmashing transformation posts in my history already. Shoutout to @Aryan Incel for getting them deleted so that I could repost this without violating any rules.
Because those posts were more basic before-afters. Whereas this is a definitive documentation of my face changes over 5 years and 5 periods of bonesmashing with commentary on the timeline and what I was doing and is a lot more valuable for people to see. This took many hours to compile.
Goals: promote real discussion; making this a legit method people are willing to try so they can get changes like me, Androgenic, Blake Speaks, and other users

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There are 4 main types of copers/deniers here that will be destroyed: ​

-1: "You just got leaner". Laughably proven false with shredded physique pics at different stages below where I was still boneless or had only developed one area

-2. "There are no real changes". Idek what to say to this lmao

-3. "Filler". Ig this can't be totally debunked. Yet, I grew my cheekbones and chin and jaw at DIFFERENT TIMES; wouldn't any non-retarded aesthetician, when consulting with me, tell me to do multiple areas at once for balance? Further, the unevenness at the bottom of my chin, which was blatant before and minimal now: why would I have waited to fill that for so long?
Second to last, pics from after making my cheekbones wider but while jaw was still narrow are included and look so uncanny: why would a professional let me fill the sides of them and kill my ratios like this? Also, permanent skin damage about the submalar area which isn't in the before pics and which is shown at the end.
And last, these changes were so gradual with so many pics as points of reference that it would have required like 10+ tiny filler sessions to fraud this so incrementally; even @Cheat_Win accumulated his insane lower third results with less sessions than this.

-4. "Puberty changes", "changes from PED androgenicity", etc. -Clearly not my case, starting this at 19, having different bones develop at different times depending on when I focused on them, gains coming mostly after PEDs, etc. And jaw corners changes almost entirely being within the last 2 months at age 23.

That being said, if you want to believe this is in some way faked, then idk what to say: but why should a way higher burden of proof be placed on this than on other posts on this site? Just because few have done this long enough and properly so as to get results? It says something that Androgenic and Blake Speaks are s-tier intellects in this space and are really the few to advocate for the efficacy of this. Though this likely works via scar tissue deposition accumulation and not subperiostal hematoma ossification

I am open to thoughtful users wanting to try to attribute my results to other things; I am not to those who arrogantly want to shut down discussion. Isn't the purpose of this an intellectually-humble scientific-mindset approach to looks improvement? Anyone thinking they can a priori "debunk" bonesmashing, because it is just "too crazy", does not have the type of open-mindedness needed to accomplish anything and will be behind the curve on things

I am getting a bunch of interested people to run my exact protocol so there will soon be an abundance of success case studies and this will be in the same respectability bucket, at least in the looksmax space, as going to the gym to build muscle

Should you do filler etc. instead?
I'm glad how this worked out for me and it it nice that, whether it is ossification via subperiostal hematomas or just hard scar tissue deposition buildup, that it feels like "my" bones and is permanent, but fillers ofc work.

As far as the time issue, even though this whole progression below SPANS ALMOST 5 YEARS, I was only doing this, let alone doing it properly, for a fraction of this period; I'm confident gains can be made in months since I have done this for chin and cheekbones and now jaw in the more productive periods of this.

Asymmetry: in my case I used it to FIX my chin asymmetry, and my jaw corners asymmetry, with strategically addressing it rn, is getting more and more balanced as well. Of all the possible risks and issues that come along with this, asymmetry isn't near the top imo.


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START. Late 2021, before any bonesmashing. 5.5-6/10 looks. Not a great baseline.​

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Narrow and pointier chin with clear unevenness at the bottom. Low cheekbone mass. Undefined jaw corner area with the ramus and gonions not wide enough for an aesthetic lower third.
-used FaceApp beard “shaven” filter to remove a little scruffy facial hair in some of these pics so it does not obscure the bone structure situation at all

Physique at the time. Since we are fully dismantling ALL copes: including “you just got leaner” and “filler” and all else:

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Now, even if I have been slightly less lean than this at times in recent months, my chin mass and cheekbones and lower third are still way more prominent and defined; here, I was relatively boneless even at this bodyfat due to these areas just not being that developed. More shredded boneless pics later.


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PHASE 1/5 BONESMASHING, early 2022 (around Feburary-July):​

Find out about bonesmashing through some combo of mewing content (maybe the mewing subreddit iirc) and Indigenous Swiss on YouTube (now deleted) – basically the only guy discussing it and with vids on it.

He claimed results from it and sold a couple courses related to it which I purchased. Since for one reason or another he seemed to want to erase himself from the internet, I won’t be sharing his transformation pics or books. But this was my start.

Bonesmashed for several months starting sometime early 2022: chin all over, cheekbones all over, jaw all over (including the mandible body itself, which I don’t recommend.

I WAS BLOATED TO HELL ON ROIDS (maybe a 4/10 or 5/10). I've been legit high-sub5 before, horrible face and bad skin in some moments. Generally like 15% bodyfat and lots of water retention from both diet and the PEDs. Thus, I could not fully see my underlying structure and ratios and what areas to really work on and how. I was hitting all over the cheekbones: not just the middle/upper parts, but the bottom too and the outer sides, leading to them in the present being a bit more bulbous/lower and WIDER than is ideal, hurting my harmony a bit. And, with my lower third width work only really starting at the beginning of 2026, my narrower lower third relative to the cheekbones was a harmony issue for sure.

-unattractive normie disaster with poor skin, totally invisible to girls, looking way older than my age at the time, etc.:
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STOPPED this first run of bonesmashing near the end of summer 2022: I think I was still too bloated to really see results / if they were happening and was discouraged. “Am I fucking insane/retarded for doing this? Is this a ridiculous cope that I’ve been spending a few mins on most days per week for months now?”

From this first run of bonesmashing, I developed some cheekbone mass and width (as revealed when leaner) but not noticeable changes on chin/jaw. I was overall doing it about every other day or every 2 days per Wolff’s Law-based ideas about this at the time – and I think this is dramatically inferior to doing daily, even if the sessions were longer and with harder hits. And also, the suboptimal frequency notwithstanding, I think this stuff also just takes TIME.

*Since cheekbones pool so well and don't recover right away, it seems they are the bone that can grow with lower frequency whereas if you keep letting the swelling on other spots die down between sessions then idk if you will get results efficiently or at all*

So, from late summer 2022 when I stopped phase 1 to early 2024 when phase 2 began, I didn’t do it.

SUMMER 2023, when I was slightly less bloated than usual but still like 11-12% and with PEDs bloat. LOOK HOW WIDE MY CHEEKBONES ARE WTF (also I think I had done a one-off bonesmashing session all over a couple days before for pump swelling purposes, so I think my chin was slightly more prominent-looking in these than it really was at the time around then):
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I'm like 6/10 in these at most rly

Vs. late 2021 below again before any bonesmashing...
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Again, this is SERIOUS stuff when it can’t be dissolved like filler, so you need to be SHREDDED so you fully see what you are doing and need to be very aware of how your ratios/features stand, etc.

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PHASE 2/5 of BONESMASHING:​

EARLY 2024 was the SECOND phase of bonesmashing. I don’t think it lasted very long: maybe a few weeks. I did cheekbones again and focused more on chin. I still wasn’t aware enough of how to objectively assess my needs in order to realize that squaring up the gonions-ramus area should have been a major priority, but I think I still targeted this area some.

Why did I stop again? Even though the swelling pump is motivating, I again wondered if I was crazy, if this was cope, etc. What a HUGE DISADVANTAGE to be double-minded about this during every session and to be unable to fully put your heart into the endeavor, not knowing if it is at all worthwhile. When enough people have proven results and this is considered a giga-legit method, then people can skip this start-stop madness that, if I had persisted through from the beginning, could have allowed for me to develop my current bone structure YEARS earlier.

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THIRD PHASE OF BONESMASHING:​

May-September 2024. I worked further mostly on cheekbones and a little bit of chin. This was where I fully finished developing cheekbones to where they are today. Lower third I again still under-focused on. Was minimal with chin as well.

So, it was mostly about my cheekbones. If you aren’t objectively assessing your appearance, then it is easy to have a NARROW VISION when seeing yourself in the mirror, focusing only on one feature that is weak or strong and ignoring other weak points and overall harmony. BE SMARTER THAN THIS. (Ie I've even had trash hairstyles and only realized it way later)

Protocol then: about EOD cheekbones due to the high level of swelling and skin irritation not allowing for daily. Did for a few mins during sessions but not sure exactly of sets/reps, but they ranged from like 30 hard hits to 100 medium hits, roughly.

END OF SUMMER 2024


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Cheekbones still too wide relative to the underdeveloped lower third. Chin seems slightly better than in 2021 but still a bit uneven on bottom. When lean enough, cheekbones were a decently strong feature at this point. Physique is included to thoroughly dismantle “oh your results are just from being leaner”. I was shredded and debloated here.
Around a 7/10 on my absolute best days and with BB cream and Lumify drops frauds

August 2024: cheekbones showing through despite being relatively bloated in the pic (GLP drugs totally changed my life in 2025-onward btw). Yes, there is swelling in this pic, but the real underlying growth was mostly permanent.

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GODSEND MOMENT. November 2024 iirc, a CRUCIAL moment: talking with yyamann, who later became St.Rotter, on here, because he had posted a bonesmashing full-face before-after with incredible changes. He showed me privately far more pics and clips demonstrating his incredible transformation. He was more boneless than me to begin with and heavily heavily developed his chin, jaw corners, and cheekbones. In fact, he kind of overdid his cheekbones like I did– one special use case tool to see something more objectively is to use the FaceApp gender swap to female, and his female version had CRAZY big cheekbones that almost looked fake.
^SO, TAKE NOTES: CHEEKBONES ARE THE EASIEST SPOT TO OVERDO!! His were overdone anteriorly and not laterally really, unlike mine
His program: I wish we had talked more specifically, but he said he did it every day for two years. Multiple times a day. Don’t remember if he talked about fists vs. hammer or more particulars on intensity, volume, and so forth: but what I remember is he went hard multiple time a day for two years, desperate to ascend a below-average face, and WOW were the changes insane. Squared up superman chad jaw. Ltn to either high HTN or low chadlite, with insane bone structure and with other minor maxxes surely chadlite.
HE GAVE ME HOPE TO START AGAIN. What this method is missing is ENOUGH CLEAR BEFORE-AFTERS such that people are convinced it works! Talking to him in private affirmed that my cheekbone gains to that point were not somehow placebo and that this was a legitimate method for those doing it properly and consistently for long enough. Though for some reason I think I wasn’t really consistent again until like February 2025 maybe.

Dec 2024 lean and debloated. Cheekbones are where they are now since I haven’t trained them since then, chin is decent, but it is the jaw corners, the ramus-gonions area, that is still too narrow and undefined and holding me back (and smiling with this expression made it look its best, if anything)…
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Which leads us to:

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PHASE 4 OF BONESMASHING,​

from about February-May 2025. I did more chin and then some jaw corners as well. A key thing was focusing on the chin corners, which I remember doing in May for width.
In Feb-March, I was doing this maybe EOD or every 2 days; in May, focusing mainly on chin corners, I was doing daily generally. I think in phase 4, my jaw corners may have gotten just slightly less narrow and that my chin width improved a little bit; but there were not other gains from this run of it besides this.

Left, June 2025, maybe 12-14%, debloated here. Right, July, 2025 about 12% bodyfat and debloated. While my 3/4ths had been the strongest angle in most lightings for a long time, some pics like this revealed the weakness of the jaw corners.
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COMMON THEME FOR REST OF 2025 PICS: Strong cheekbones, good chin, weak jaw corners. This is why I almost never took pics STRAIGHT ON, hating how rounded the lower third looked and how narrow relative to the cheekbones. Most of my pics are a slight look to the side like above as well as 3/4ths profile.


Mid July 2025, 11ish% bodyfat and debloated; similar deal, avoiding front angle pics because they revealed the poor lower third.

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August 2025, shredded at roughly 10% bodyfat and debloated, FINALLY a front pic: with this leanness and skin and general harmony and cheekbones, I was already low HTN I think (still in HTN range at present) but my lower third corners continued to hold me back from better aesthetics.

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^I’m not actually that badly recessed, but this is a down angle. Side profile way stronger than front by hiding the jaw corners weakness.
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Sept 11 2025 physique pic: I am shredded and debloated. So it becomes clear that my limiting factors face-wise at this point are structure-related with leanness-related improvements no longer really on the table. Hard capped at around 7/10 on my best days before starting jaw corners work to square ts up

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^I AM REALLY LEAN, but the lower third is NOT what it is now, still VERY inward-sloped corners. This is why it is NOT an option for copers to say that the difference was getting leaner JFL. If they want to claim filler, then so be it (but again at least apply this to anyone claiming results from any experiment here and not just this)

Mid Oct 2025. Around a 6.5 on worse days or 7/10 on best days (fluctuate a lot based on sleep, bloat, inflammation, skin, etc.):
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^Those 2 pics the same day, same story: could look good in some off-center pics, but destroyed in most straight-on ones with these inward jaw corners. Which also required me to be way leaner than I would have had to otherwise in order to have some hollows.

Late Oct 2025: Starting becoming too apparent that no amount of leanmaxxing would suddenly make the jaw corner area better atp


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^(bottom right pic above) You know how occasionally you have a picture that looks way better than you actually looked when looking back? This was one of those where by jaw corners look probably the best they have in any picture due to the combo of lighting and angle and luck in this pic. Yet, STILL pretty poor and sloping inward etc.

Mid Nov 2025: showing how unbalanced the cheekbones-lower third proportion is


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Lower third still trash. The few straight-on pics made this SO OBVIOUS that it became the next imminent looksmax when I took time at the end of the year to evaluate looks improvement opportunities…

END OF DECEMBER 2025: Evaluating different maxxes and weakness, I began trying to morph better jaw corners, and these imperfect morphs below helped me FINALLY see that I could ascend by improving this area:

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If you aren't taking time every now and then to step back and objectively see what looksmax opportunities you are overlooking, then you will be clumsy and slow with many maxxes as I was over the years. Use AI especially Claude for objective analysis; it is surprisingly based in pointing you to implants etc. vs. soft advice from Chat

So, this leads us to the present…–


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PHASE 5 OF BONESMASHING: JAN 1 2026-PRESENT (March 2 2026 as of now)​

Determined to square up/widen my jaw corners and ascend as hard as possible. To surpass the 7/10 cap. Incredible how oblivious I was to this, maybe in part thinking that constantly being even leaner would ascend this area even though I had kind of pushed this to the limit already.

From the night of Jan 1st, the swelling in the jaw corners already helped provide some temporary width and revealed how much better I was going to look as I grew this area
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^I took multiple pics after my early sessions because the swelling making my bone structure look better than ever before was such lifefuel.


^Vid I posted Jan 4th with some swelling as part of this post:
https://looksmax.org/threads/vid-pics-masseter-vs-gonial-bone-growth-for-me-to-ascend.1811056/
Still poor jaw corners even with the early swelling since this swelling mass was occurring on top of so narrow and poor a base


Late Jan 2026: Likely some scar tissue accumulating in the jaw corners already since the lower third started already looking consistently better than before in just a month in addition to the swelling
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^Unfortunately my nose is extremely prone to big swelling swings based on things like histamine, salt/bloat, inflammation, heat, blood pressure, etc.

Began hitting the front of chin as well at some point in Feb for more forward projection. (don't think there are really significant permanent gains in this spot yet)

Mid Feb 2026

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In the shower when using cleanser on face, I began to notice and feel a hard mass around the lower part of the ramus, so permanent scar tissue gains are already happening, in addition to the fact that the swelling looks far better than it did early Jan 2026 (why? because having real underlying growth + swelling means more mass than when you start and your swelling is on top of a lesser bone baseline)

Doing this twice a day morning and night has been a game changer in order to keep swelling and inflammation going; no ridiculous 2-day rest and then resetting progress it seems etc.


Later Feb
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YESTERDAY, MARCH 2 2026​

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Bonus: permanent underlying tissue or vascular damage in the submalar area from going too far inward/near the nose with the hammer when doing cheekbones. Is too soft-tissue dominant and so can't really even grow anyways.

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How to do this:

-DAILY hits, TWICE daily morning and night; cheekbones swell so much that this high frequency to keep pooling alive may not be as needed with them; don't take it too far where there's so much blood pooling and the skin bursts and then you can't hit them for days thereafter

-HAMMER not fists, 16oz not 8oz so the weight makes it easier and better, COMPLETELY FLAT SMOOTH HEAD since your skin will get KILLED if there is any unevenness or scratches. I had this heavy steel ball thing for chin corners, and this allowed to hit more specifically since a hammer head is way too wide to target exactly what you need for that spot. ie- amazon link to the type iirc

-since it is either scar tissue buildup or subperiostal hematoma ossification (unlikely), do medium or soft hits; no head-jostling skin-damaging hard hits needed. I'm doing closer to medium or slightly harder at night and lighter in the morning

-3-5 sets per spot per session, 50-100 reps is what I am doing and have often done when getting results. ie a cheekbone set could be 100 reps moving across it side to side or slightly up and down (don't recommend hitting bottom part of it, made mine a little too bulbous and lower and not fully ideal end shape)

-knowing where to hit: FaceApp morphs of yourself, Claude prompts (say you are getting filler to become as model-tier as possible, don't bother explaining the real mechanism. it is surprisingly objective in helping even with hardmaxxes and stuff). Being truly SHREDDED and debloated so you FULLY know where your bone structure stands and don't have a distorted end result when you finally do get lean to reveal changes. Being shredded for the months ending 2025 helped me fully see that my jaw corners needed work, no copes.
+ To an extent using swelling as a guide, seeing how swelling certain areas in certain ways alters your look; a decent but not 100% perfect proxy of future results (and if it is uncanny you also may have hit too hard/long and the high swelling is the issue, not growth on the bone for you in general)

-Supplements: vitamins d3, k2, c; magnesium; calcium (in case this is actual bone growth mechanisms); possibly collagen; etc. Many of these are in multivitamins but I take more magnesium and calcium to hit 100%DV and have a dedicated d3/k2 supp as well

-Skin damage: using a layer of beef tallow for skin or something on spots you hit; trying to avoid friction with the hammer head and using "quick" hits in a way hard to fully explain; I'm doing lots of topical GHK-CU on jaw corners to try to prevent too much skin damage from accumulating and screwing me like with that submalar area

-Hitting ramus/gonions without masseter interference: gonions are the under side of the jaw corner and are easier, and you can do them from straight under or like 45 degrees; I'm not really doing them because the swelling squares me in a blocky way that seems to look bad. I'm mainly doing the first 3/4ths of an inch of the ramus, mainly the lower part of this range starting down by the jaw corner point going up n down. To avoid masseter blocking, be shredded, turn head to side a bit, neck forward and jutting lower jaw, teeth/jaws apart a bit, and duck face to make skin more taut. These are nuances hard to fully explain that you kind of have to figure out

Can I use my phone instead of a hammer?

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Cool thread, but i don't understand the logic of taking vitamin d3/k2/calcium when u take these supplements u do opposite u make ur bones more stronger so they would not break right? But u should break/fracture ur bones so they would make stronger/bigger when u healing

It is probably dense collagen scar tissue and not real bone changes, but these are taken as bone supports to just stimulate the ossification process in case it actually is partially or entirely bone changes. And I get what you are thinking in that question, but just not how it is in practice

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Can I use my phone instead of a hammer?

Only valid spot to use that is brow ridge, which I do not have experience in since that's like the one feature that came standard issue with my genetics ig
16oz hammer perfectly smooth face to minimize skin damage, and ideally this exact ball pein hammer since the smooth side is hte same but the ball pein side allows for some specific things that can be helpful or needed
I've researched and tested so many

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Nigga

Anything like this is a speedrun to get removed from Getting Hammered FYI

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

How did you smash your chin? It is wrapped with muscle as far as i know

Wondering same thing

Just hit it with a hammer

Yeah there's more soft tissue coverage than with most other spots
For one thing, being shredded: this makes the ramus/gonions way easier to access, without a layer of subcutaneous fat and water covering them, but same with the front of the chin

Second, there's all these nuances I describe with certain spots as far as how open your jaws are (teeth never touching during hammer bc damage risk), since for ramus and chin how open the jaws are affects the feel, and then also how much you pull your lips up in a cheesy grin, so to speak, stretching the soft tissue and skin and "getting it out of the way" to an extent so to speak

If you see the chin video on the Skool it's like Im doing some sort of cheesy grin the whole time, lips pulled way up, for this reason

 

[Dolorous]

Only valid spot to use that is brow ridge, which I do not have experience in since that's like the one feature that came standard issue with my genetics ig
16oz hammer perfectly smooth face to minimize skin damage, and ideally this exact ball pein hammer since the smooth side is hte same but the ball pein side allows for some specific things that can be helpful or needed
I've researched and tested so many

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just to clarify, the silver hitch ball that you hyperlinked is still good for areas like the chin, zygos, etc?

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

just to clarify, the silver hitch ball that you hyperlinked is still good for areas like the chin, zygos, etc?

I'd say it's not really needed, I'd really prefer the hammer even for those spots; I think I mainly mentioned it in reference to the chin corners, but not really needed or ideal even for that