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What is PIED? Porn induced erectile dysfunction - caused by long term, prolonged usage of porn desensitizing you to real life stimuli.

Pied is a type of erectile dysfunction that is entirely psychological and entirely curable. Erectile dysfunction in young men is primarily caused by exogenous consumption of porn, as young men typically have no issue with hormones, are fitter and are less exposed to other underlying health issues normally associated with old age. Depends where you read your statistics, but from what I've seen, anywhere from 20% to 40% of men have ed - so it's more common then you think.


PIED is often coincided with “death grip”, especially for those who don't use any lubricants when they masturbate. This causes a reduced physical sensation on the penis that fails to be stimulated when having sex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death-grip_syndrome ).


For virgins, and those otherwise anxious about sex - PIED is a deathwish.

Solution:

Prerequisites to fix:
Total abstinence
from porn for three months. this means cold turkey, absolutely no porn.
  • you need to fully reset your dependence on the ritual you have established on how an erection occurs by completely stopping it (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8569536/ ) this study suggests the frequency isn't a significant factor, simply any amount of porn contributed to ED
  • prolonged consuming of porn rewires your erections to a ritual, as opposed to actual stimulus
  • with this, people start becoming desensitized to porn itself and seek out more exotic strains of it
  • leads to odd kinks, that you otherwise wouldn't do in person with a girl
  • precursor to cuckholdry, as you're watching another man have sex with a woman

Telandrafil (cialis) - Erectile dysfunction medication that will provide strong erections that will increase your performance and blood flow ONLY WHEN SEXUALLY STIMULATED. (https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a604008.html)

When taking this medication for the first time, take it on an empty stomach with decent amounts of water to determine how responsive your body is. Some people report 30 minutes, others up to 6 hours for it to take any noticeable effect. Have at least taken it once before you actually intend to use it to determine how preemptive you need to be when you actually will require it.

The half life of this medication is 17.5 hours, so you can expect it to work the following morning - making your morning wood exceptionally stronger - and for a few trailing days (obviously to a lesser extent). I suggest taking it on the weekends.

Some tips with this:
  • do not eat or drink ANY grapefruit before consuming
  • get the 10mg tablets, and take a maximum of two in a span of two days
  • you'll feel much more pumped at the gym, so make the most of it there

Obtaining it is also expensive, and may require a prescription. Ideally, avoid a blood test (to get access to it instantly) by using an online doctor consultation service - say you've used this medication previously and just want an updated prescription. If they need to hear more context, suggest that your girlfriend will leave you otherwise, you're a recovering porn addict, you have no heart conditions, you're young, and you're fit. Ask specifically for 10mg at the max dosage they can provide with the longest repeating script.





Don't smoke or drink alcohol prior to sex - Smoking reduces the amount of blood flow directed to your penis, and will decrease the likelihood that you'll get it up (https://healthymale.org.au/health-article/how-smoking-impacts-your-sex-life-erectile-dysfunction )

Similarly drinking can cause “whiskey dick”. My personal opinion is get intoxicated once, and try and jerk off. If you get an erection you should be ok - but don't try lose your virginity drunk.

Sleep schedule / morning wood
  • if you're not getting morning wood, get your testosterone checked, otherwise sleep longer. minimum 7 hours
On that note, optimizing testosterone production (reaching the minimum threshold) - lower testosterone is frequently associated with ED, and low libido. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1476110/). There are plenty of test/libido maxing guides on this forum. Consider taking zinc and magnesium glycinate supplements. Pair this with frequent exercise and healthy eating habits (basic shit, pretty straight forward).


Steps to overcome:
Understand there are multiple things actually affecting it, and the more times you under-perform, the more times you prove to yourself you cannot perform - causing a negative feedback loop of anxiety (which itself prevents erections)

Take time, do all prerequisites before even considering doing something with a woman.

Step one, use your erections - be comfortable when they go flaccid.

cryptt’s post on fixing ED mentions becoming one with your dick through cock meditation, unfortunately that's retarded (https://looksmax.org/threads/a-guide-to-pied-ed-flatline-and-tips-on-how-to-fix-it.1196261/) But it's important to come to terms with your dick being flaccid mid encounter and not becoming overly stressed for no reason. Every morning for a while, hump something without your hands until you get erect- then hold your cock and watch it go flaccid. After this, try humping something again and try to maintain a new erection.

  • trains you to like humping something.
  • but more importantly doesn't ruin future boners by stressing out over losing a boner mid encounter. You're not guaranteed to get through your entire first encounter fully erect - but it's possible to come back at a later point.

Step two, buy lube and condoms - be comfortable with the concept of sex and how imperfect your first time will be (don't hype yourself up too much)
here are a few sex guides that are useful:
https://looksmax.org/threads/sexmax...sex-god-and-get-girls-addicted-to-you.168709/

https://looksmax.org/threads/how-to-lose-your-virginity-small-guide.1985909/

https://looksmax.org/threads/dont-engage-in-prone-mastrubation-and-some-tips-to-quit-it.1799076/
key takeaways:
  • wash your dick daily, especially beforehand
  • Acknowledge its not going to be perfect, but dont reminisce on how it didnt meet your expectations
  • drink a lot of water the day before
  • USE LUBE, and more then you think is required
  • don't try and film a porn video, just go long and slow until you figure it out

Step three, determine if the girl actually wants you. if it's something where she's going to be draining, drawn out or she's hesitant - you'll ruin your first time and your perception of sex.

Obviously if you mention it's your first time, and she's not willing to assist you with figuring it out - just move onto the next because you'll fuck yourself over in future.

Step four
, you don't always have to aim for the vag, she has a mouth and a hand too.

Ask for something else if you're coming down from an erection. this is the most important tip especially if you're still used to jerking off - it might help you stay harder longer by resorting back to something you're familiar with (like a hand job) that will get you hard.

Step five
, coming off telandrafil dependency. Ideally after some time, you'll become less dependent on it. You can cut your 10mg pill in half, and start consuming 5mg to test this out - especially useful if you have a sexual partner that is unlikely to leave.

Consistent, enjoyable sex is what will help your dependence on telandrafil the most. Try to be as frequent as possible and overhype any inkling of improvement in your performance.



For going out, I recommend cutting off two tablets, and putting them in either the back of your phone case, or your pocket to take if you plan to go home with someone. The response time is at a minimum 30 minutes, and they can be taken more discreetly if you have them on you already, walking back to your place.

Especially with new partners, you have no idea how they'll perform. So take all precautions possible to prevent any issues relating to anxiety. DO NOT underestimate how comfortable you have become with one partner, and DON'T expect that comfort to be instantly transferable to another.



Some final thoughts:


You should never tell your partner about your PIED, just say it's some hormonal thing from previous steroid use - occasionally causing regular ED that will get better with time. Disclosing your porn addiction is retarded.


ED medication is expensive, therefore aim to have frequent partners to maximize their effectiveness until you're no longer dependent on them.


PIED will take time to recover from, expect upwards of three months.


If you're a virgin, you would have no idea if you're affected by this or not, and if you're like any other teen - watching for years on end, I highly recommend at least getting telandrafil.



Honorable mention: https://looksmax.org/threads/a-comp...y-from-experience-gtfih-high-iq-botb.1874502/


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What is PIED? Porn induced erectile dysfunction - caused by long term, prolonged usage of porn desensitizing you to real life stimuli.

Pied is a type of erectile dysfunction that is entirely psychological and entirely curable. Erectile dysfunction in young men is primarily caused by exogenous consumption of porn, as young men typically have no issue with hormones, are fitter and are less exposed to other underlying health issues normally associated with old age. Depends where you read your statistics, but from what I've seen, anywhere from 20% to 40% of men have ed - so it's more common then you think.


PIED is often coincided with “death grip”, especially for those who don't use any lubricants when they masturbate. This causes a reduced physical sensation on the penis that fails to be stimulated when having sex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death-grip_syndrome ).


For virgins, and those otherwise anxious about sex - PIED is a deathwish.

Solution:

Prerequisites to fix:
Total abstinence
from porn for three months. this means cold turkey, absolutely no porn.
  • you need to fully reset your dependence on the ritual you have established on how an erection occurs by completely stopping it (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8569536/ ) this study suggests the frequency isn't a significant factor, simply any amount of porn contributed to ED
  • prolonged consuming of porn rewires your erections to a ritual, as opposed to actual stimulus
  • with this, people start becoming desensitized to porn itself and seek out more exotic strains of it
  • leads to odd kinks, that you otherwise wouldn't do in person with a girl
  • precursor to cuckholdry, as you're watching another man have sex with a woman

Telandrafil (cialis) - Erectile dysfunction medication that will provide strong erections that will increase your performance and blood flow ONLY WHEN SEXUALLY STIMULATED. (https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a604008.html)

When taking this medication for the first time, take it on an empty stomach with decent amounts of water to determine how responsive your body is. Some people report 30 minutes, others up to 6 hours for it to take any noticeable effect. Have at least taken it once before you actually intend to use it to determine how preemptive you need to be when you actually will require it.

The half life of this medication is 17.5 hours, so you can expect it to work the following morning - making your morning wood exceptionally stronger - and for a few trailing days (obviously to a lesser extent). I suggest taking it on the weekends.

Some tips with this:
  • do not eat ANY fatty foods before consuming to have a faster absorption of the medication
  • get the 10mg tablets, and take a maximum of two in a span of two days
  • you'll feel much more pumped at the gym, so make the most of it there

Obtaining it is also expensive, and may require a prescription. Ideally, avoid a blood test (to get access to it instantly) by using an online doctor consultation service - say you've used this medication previously and just want an updated prescription. If they need to hear more context, suggest that your girlfriend will leave you otherwise, you're a recovering porn addict, you have no heart conditions, you're young, and you're fit. Ask specifically for 10mg at the max dosage they can provide with the longest repeating script.





Don't smoke or drink alcohol prior to sex - Smoking reduces the amount of blood flow directed to your penis, and will decrease the likelihood that you'll get it up (https://healthymale.org.au/health-article/how-smoking-impacts-your-sex-life-erectile-dysfunction )

Similarly drinking can cause “whiskey dick”. My personal opinion is get intoxicated once, and try and jerk off. If you get an erection you should be ok - but don't try lose your virginity drunk.

Sleep schedule / morning wood
  • if you're not getting morning wood, get your testosterone checked, otherwise sleep longer. minimum 7 hours
On that note, optimizing testosterone production (reaching the minimum threshold) - lower testosterone is frequently associated with ED, and low libido. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1476110/). There are plenty of test/libido maxing guides on this forum. Consider taking zinc and magnesium glycinate supplements. Pair this with frequent exercise and healthy eating habits (basic shit, pretty straight forward).


Steps to overcome:
Understand there are multiple things actually affecting it, and the more times you under-perform, the more times you prove to yourself you cannot perform - causing a negative feedback loop of anxiety (which itself prevents erections)

Take time, do all prerequisites before even considering doing something with a woman.

Step one, use your erections - be comfortable when they go flaccid.

cryptt’s post on fixing ED mentions becoming one with your dick through cock meditation, unfortunately that's retarded (https://looksmax.org/threads/a-guide-to-pied-ed-flatline-and-tips-on-how-to-fix-it.1196261/) But it's important to come to terms with your dick being flaccid mid encounter and not becoming overly stressed for no reason. Every morning for a while, hump something without your hands until you get erect- then hold your cock and watch it go flaccid. After this, try humping something again and try to maintain a new erection.

  • trains you to like humping something.
  • but more importantly doesn't ruin future boners by stressing out over losing a boner mid encounter. You're not guaranteed to get through your entire first encounter fully erect - but it's possible to come back at a later point.

Step two, buy lube and condoms - be comfortable with the concept of sex and how imperfect your first time will be (don't hype yourself up too much)
here are a few sex guides that are useful:
https://looksmax.org/threads/sexmax...sex-god-and-get-girls-addicted-to-you.168709/

https://looksmax.org/threads/how-to-lose-your-virginity-small-guide.1985909/

https://looksmax.org/threads/dont-engage-in-prone-mastrubation-and-some-tips-to-quit-it.1799076/
key takeaways:
  • wash your dick daily, especially beforehand
  • Acknowledge its not going to be perfect, but dont reminisce on how it didnt meet your expectations
  • drink a lot of water the day before
  • USE LUBE, and more then you think is required
  • don't try and film a porn video, just go long and slow until you figure it out

Step three, determine if the girl actually wants you. if it's something where she's going to be draining, drawn out or she's hesitant - you'll ruin your first time and your perception of sex.

Obviously if you mention it's your first time, and she's not willing to assist you with figuring it out - just move onto the next because you'll fuck yourself over in future.

Step four
, you don't always have to aim for the vag, she has a mouth and a hand too.

Ask for something else if you're coming down from an erection. this is the most important tip especially if you're still used to jerking off - it might help you stay harder longer by resorting back to something you're familiar with (like a hand job) that will get you hard.

Step five
, coming off telandrafil dependency. Ideally after some time, you'll become less dependent on it. You can cut your 10mg pill in half, and start consuming 5mg to test this out - especially useful if you have a sexual partner that is unlikely to leave.

Consistent, enjoyable sex is what will help your dependence on telandrafil the most. Try to be as frequent as possible and overhype any inkling of improvement in your performance.



For going out, I recommend cutting off two tablets, and putting them in either the back of your phone case, or your pocket to take if you plan to go home with someone. The response time is at a minimum 30 minutes, and they can be taken more discreetly if you have them on you already, walking back to your place.

Especially with new partners, you have no idea how they'll perform. So take all precautions possible to prevent any issues relating to anxiety. DO NOT underestimate how comfortable you have become with one partner, and DON'T expect that comfort to be instantly transferable to another.



Some final thoughts:


You should never tell your partner about your PIED, just say it's some hormonal thing from previous steroid use - occasionally causing regular ED that will get better with time. Disclosing your porn addiction is retarded.


ED medication is expensive, therefore aim to have frequent partners to maximize their effectiveness until you're no longer dependent on them.


PIED will take time to recover from, expect upwards of three months.


If you're a virgin, you would have no idea if you're affected by this or not, and if you're like any other teen - watching for years on end, I highly recommend at least getting telandrafil.



Honorable mention: https://looksmax.org/threads/a-comp...y-from-experience-gtfih-high-iq-botb.1874502/


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Nice thread, never knew PIED is this serious
 
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I read everything, the tadafil guide, the method to quit, the explanation to pornrotting your brain.


Nice thread, never knew PIED is this serious
Porn is entirely neuro toxic, thanks for the read :love:
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Good thread. Also correct unlike Viagra, it's not affected by food so that fatty meal rule isn't as strict here. I used it before sex but like you said staying out of your head is 90% of the battle. If you're overthinking the mechanics, the
adrenaline will kill the boner every time.
 
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Good thread. Also correct unlike Viagra, it's not affected by food so that fatty meal rule isn't as strict here.
I've made amendments, you shouldnt eat/drink grapefruit beforehand.
I used it before sex but like you said staying out of your head is 90% of the battle. If you're overthinking the mechanics, the
adrenaline will kill the boner every time.

100%, I think the best thing you can do is set yourself up to be comfortable in an uncomfortable situation. Especially if youre a virgin, years of expectations unravel in a short moment and you might fold under the pressure.

I think all you can do is minimize all things that will negatively influence your experience before you have your experience, and be more educated as to how it will actually unfold in reality.

Obviously porn massively skews everyone's perception of it, but in reality its not that serious and should be enjoyable.




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